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Re: Putin Throws Olive Branch To Ukraine, Lists Four Conditions For Peace by torqque7(m): 11:07pm On Mar 07
naija4life247:


Are his current demands different from previous demands? Too many non thinking children on this Forum

Yes before he demanded Ukraine stay away from Nato and Eu and be part of the societ but now he said adjust your constitution so you can be neutral..isn't that a huge change?
Re: Putin Throws Olive Branch To Ukraine, Lists Four Conditions For Peace by Chameleon9: 11:08pm On Mar 07
Russia in 1994: give up your nukes and we will leave you alone.

Russia in 2014: give us Crimea and we will leave you alone.

Russia in 2022: Give us Donbas and stay out of any alliances and reinstate Yanukovych and we will leave you alone.

Going to go ahead and say Russia is not going to follow through with leaving Ukraine alone.
Re: Putin Throws Olive Branch To Ukraine, Lists Four Conditions For Peace by saintrow1: 11:15pm On Mar 07
NigeriaZoo:
Putin is feeling the heat. At least this is a step in the right direction.
Where is the heat?
Why can't you Nigerians just mind your fuvking business
With all the sanction on Cuba north Korea Iran etc they are still far Nigeria.
Year's ago turkey was under sanction, today they have the best defence industry in the world.
Just learn to shut the fuvk up
Re: Putin Throws Olive Branch To Ukraine, Lists Four Conditions For Peace by assholemods: 11:15pm On Mar 07
ariesbull:
there is limitation to that sovereignty ask Libya, ask Iraq ask Vietnam and Afghanistan
Limitations brought by aggressive West and now Russia... bullies!
Re: Putin Throws Olive Branch To Ukraine, Lists Four Conditions For Peace by tctrills: 11:16pm On Mar 07
FreeStuffsNG:
Any news from British platform just raises my suspicion.

There is this relentless posting of pro-Ukraine news by British news platforms that just do not truly reflect the harsh odds against Ukranians and their President as the losing side. It is as if they are cashing out huge ad revenues from these news at the expense of the fact.

Hyping President Zelensky as a war hero at this time is irresponsible.

Suddenly they are not carrying covid 19 related news. They should not feed from the mysteries of Ukranians rather should sustain the campaign to compel President Putin to withdraw his troops and stop killing the Ukranians.
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Since you are not into British news, you can get your news from The Nation newspaper or from the Times of Afganisthan. I guess these would be better sources for news.
Re: Putin Throws Olive Branch To Ukraine, Lists Four Conditions For Peace by TenQ: 11:34pm On Mar 07
baralatie:

Unfortunately Ukraine was towing the line of NATO meaning
Ukraine literally handed over its own decision capabilities to NATO.
Imagine if you were Russia and NATO was discussing with you that they have plans for Ukraine (your next door neighbour)
Only for you(Russia to have a meeting with your neighbour Ukraine)..out of eery 10 words that come out of his mouth 9 is NATO scripts!
Is that not war?
Unfortunately, Ukraine is not yet guilty of any offence. Ukraine wasn't part of the initial Russia-NATO gentleman's agreement of no further eastern expansion?

Russia is a plain bully!
Re: Putin Throws Olive Branch To Ukraine, Lists Four Conditions For Peace by TenQ: 11:37pm On Mar 07
Truvelisback:
Don't judge based on ur emotions. Small Ukraine wants to sell Russia out to their main enemy, U.S and NATO.
What was the agreement between Russia and Ukraine? None!

Russia's problem is not with Ukraine it is with NATO. Ukraine has not yet done anything against Russia!
Re: Putin Throws Olive Branch To Ukraine, Lists Four Conditions For Peace by 1stGenAmerican(f): 11:49pm On Mar 07
useni1:
young woman I don't know if you stalking me so I marry you or something. Paper money is worthless. Russia is the richest country on Earth. She has everything in her vast land. America is just a debt shiithole

Another delusional human.
Re: Putin Throws Olive Branch To Ukraine, Lists Four Conditions For Peace by uneeking(m): 11:51pm On Mar 07
For those people properly following the events in this case, it is very clear that Putin has taken this decision after the sacrifice made by the Israeli President who visited Moscow on Saturday and held peace talks with the Russian President who is out to show that he is not primarily interested in killing people in Ukraine. He is simply out to put some sense into an inexperienced comedian turned president as well as protect the territorial integrity of his country as a responsible President unlike what we have in Nigeria. With a president like Putin, Nigeria would never have been having the Boko Haram and ISIS challenges on its territory. Now, even banditry and ritual killings have been added because of the attitude of the Nigerian leadership. Na lie?
Re: Putin Throws Olive Branch To Ukraine, Lists Four Conditions For Peace by uneeking(m): 11:56pm On Mar 07
WHY DOES NATO NEED TO BE ON RUSSIA'S BORDERS?

It is so unfortunate what the West has deceived Zelensky into and the hardship brought upon innocent citizens of Ukraine. The Westerners are not capable of protecting Ukraine in anyway. Ukraine does not need to join NATO. Russia will never agree to have its enemies use its neighbour to put military forces at its border. Putin has been pushed to take actions that were not planned before now. The Europeans need to know that the Americans do not mean well for them. They know Russia's military capabilities but are far away enough to avoid immediate damage while the Europeans are not so safe from such challenges.
Re: Putin Throws Olive Branch To Ukraine, Lists Four Conditions For Peace by orisa37: 12:00am On Mar 08
CONDITIONS UNACCEPTABLE. RUSSIA SHALL BE HUMILIATED OUT OF UKRAINE.
Re: Putin Throws Olive Branch To Ukraine, Lists Four Conditions For Peace by SeeThisLoser: 12:01am On Mar 08
uneeking:
For those people properly following the events in this case, it is very clear that Putin has taken this decision after the sacrifice made by the Israeli President who visited Moscow on Saturday and held peace talks with the Russian President who is out to show that he is not primarily interested in killing people in Ukraine. He is simply out to put some sense into an inexperienced comedian turned president as well as protect the territorial integrity of his country as a responsible President unlike what we have in Nigeria. With a president like Putin, Nigeria would never have been having the Boko Haram and ISIS challenges on its territory. Now, even banditry and ritual killings have been added because of the attitude of the Nigerian leadership. Na lie?

You need a brain reset. How can you protect the territorial integrity of your country by disrespecting the terrirtorial integrity of another country ?

Ukrainians do not want to be in the sphere of Russia's influence, Putin should respect their territorial integrity.

And you call him a comedian which makes Putin a joke, because a comedian has defended his country very bravely and also brought upon Russia economic disaster.

Putin is a thug and a joke.
Re: Putin Throws Olive Branch To Ukraine, Lists Four Conditions For Peace by baralatie(m): 12:14am On Mar 08
TenQ:

Unfortunately, Ukraine is not yet guilty of any offence. Ukraine wasn't part of the initial Russia-NATO gentleman's agreement of no further eastern expansion?

Russia is a plain bully!
According to the US statement it may claim so which wrong but according to Ukraine ambitions .the current leadership has continually made sure that admission to NATo is it's goal.ot has also made sure that it receive military funding aid from NATO countries to fund it's civil war which has run into 8 years!
Ukraine is a part of the agreement to have Russia be it's military allay for protection in the Minsk 1 and Minsk 2 .and the Budapest agreement
So this current Ukrainian stance was an error and has brought this war to fruitition


Someone has already posted the articles of agreement concerning what NATO signed with Russia.
So Ukraine authorities literally walked into this trouble
Re: Putin Throws Olive Branch To Ukraine, Lists Four Conditions For Peace by TenQ: 12:21am On Mar 08
baralatie:

According to the US statement it may claim so which wrong but according to Ukraine ambitions .the current leadership has continually made sure that admission to NATo is it's goal.ot has also made sure that it receive military funding aid from NATO countries to fund it's civil war which has run into 8 years!
Ukraine is a part of the agreement to have Russia be it's military allay for protection in the Minsk 1 and Minsk 2 .and the Budapest agreement
So this current Ukrainian stance was an error and has brought this war to fruitition


Someone has already posted the articles of agreement concerning what NATO signed with Russia.
So Ukraine authorities literally walked into this trouble
Unfortunately NOT!
One of the cardinal point for any country joining NATO is not having ANY territorial conflict. Ukraine could not have needed NATO to squash down separatist movements.

Ukraine took to looking at EU and NATO because
1. Russia seized Crimea from them
2. Russia took away ALL their nuclear asenal
3. Russian installed a puppet president on Ukraine
4. Russia sponsored the two separatist regions to demand independence

Do you think Russia want the good of Ukraine?
If you think they do, how?
Re: Putin Throws Olive Branch To Ukraine, Lists Four Conditions For Peace by Elsueno: 12:26am On Mar 08
IMAliyu:

Quite the opposite actually.
Putin invading Ukraine, just revitalized NATO, which lacked purpose for the longest time, and countries like Finland which were neutral are now expressing interest in joining NATO.

As for the dollar, more countries are realizing its faults and expanding their reserves to Gold.

But d founding members of Nato like Germany & France do not really want those parasitic countries, the rich Nato members are literally sponsoring them & most of thier problems in recent times are from those countries
Re: Putin Throws Olive Branch To Ukraine, Lists Four Conditions For Peace by Elsueno: 12:30am On Mar 08
Skoopy:
This conditions are way too extreme, to me Putin isn't ready for peace.


No, I think it's gud, Crimea, Donbass & Luhansk don't really get along with Ukraine, in fact d last two have being killing each other for more than 8 years...

D neutrality thing is also gud, Zelenskyy get to keep his presidency, his nazis, & can even join d EU & also do business with Russia( if he wants).. it's a win win
Re: Putin Throws Olive Branch To Ukraine, Lists Four Conditions For Peace by baralatie(m): 12:37am On Mar 08
TenQ:

Unfortunately NOT!
One of the cardinal point for any country joining NATO is not having ANY territorial conflict. Ukraine could not have needed NATO to squash down separatist movements.

Ukraine took to looking at EU and NATO because
1. Russia seized Crimea from them
2. Russia took away ALL their nuclear asenal
3. Russian installed a puppet president on Ukraine
4. Russia sponsored the two separatist regions to demand independence

Do you think Russia want the good of Ukraine?


Concerning Ukraine nuclear weapons please read about the Budapest memorandum
If you think they do, how?
The bolded is false because Ukraine has been collecting huge support in the civil war against Donetsk and lohansk from US and UK

Crimea had a referendum on its own to leave Ukraine! Ukraine started a war Russia came in on request from Crimea and that settled that!

There was no time Russia interfered with Ukraine elections but in 2014 there was a coup in Ukraine with the aid of the west

Donetsk and lohansk wanted to leave Ukraine and join russia.ukraine choose war.Russia,France and Germany intervened in the crisis .please read about the Minsk 1 and Minsk 2 agreement.the agreement that Ukraine did not honor


Russia wants the good for itself and it's neighbours.it does not expect any of it's immediately neighbors to jeopardize its own security nau

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Re: Putin Throws Olive Branch To Ukraine, Lists Four Conditions For Peace by phenase(m): 12:39am On Mar 08
AMERICANS DONT KNOW THAT IF RUSSIA IS NUKED TODAY, THE HIDDEN MACHINES WILL AUTOMATICALLY TAKE OVER, THIS WILL BE THE END OF THE WORLD. THEY SHOULD BE CAREFUL WITH RUSSIA. THEY DONT KNOW MUCH ABOUT RUSSIA CAPABILITIES. THEY HAVE MORE THAN WHAT THE EYES CAN SEE cool
Re: Putin Throws Olive Branch To Ukraine, Lists Four Conditions For Peace by Shoodboi: 1:14am On Mar 08
checkoutEnugu:


Pls learn. Kyiv is not like Abuja. It's like Lagos bordering Benin republic. So the enemy simply used Benin to stage attack on Lagos which is just one hour drive away. So yes, Kyiv is the closest place to attack from the onset. The only issue is that as a capital and symbol of Ukrainian people and freedom, its heavily fortified and will be hard to over run.

Russia advanced towards Kyiv from Belarus, and Ukraine couldn't stall the advance? What kind of military is that?

The distance between Belarus and Kyiv is around 494.6 km.

An army unit travels 40km (25 miles) a day so they don't outrun their logistics. (And that figure should be lower if they face stiff resistance.)

Normally, Russia should cover that distance in about 12 days (without resistance and longer with resistance) in 3 (with resistance)? Like WTH?

That's why the West keeps yapping about Russia having logistics problems.

It doesn't. Russia only overstretched its logistics by advancing too quickly and is trying to fix that before delivering the final blow to Kyiv.

The fact that the Russians could advance that quickly indicates they are either good, the Ukranians are terrible, or both. I'll put my money on "both".
Re: Putin Throws Olive Branch To Ukraine, Lists Four Conditions For Peace by getencored(m): 1:16am On Mar 08
Does his conditions look like he's feeling the heat? Genuine question here.
NigeriaZoo:
Putin is feeling the heat. At least this is a step in the right direction.
Re: Putin Throws Olive Branch To Ukraine, Lists Four Conditions For Peace by Idiko1: 1:18am On Mar 08
TenQ:

Unfortunately, Ukraine is not yet guilty of any offence. Ukraine wasn't part of the initial Russia-NATO gentleman's agreement of no further eastern expansion?

Russia is a plain bully!

Stream of thought as postulated in the above post remains one of the reasons Africans are not regarded in anything around world. What about Ukraine and Self-Determination? Ukraine declared war on Donbas region because the region wanted independence. I watched as the international airport in Donetsk was razed to the ground. Where were the goons who now shout humanitarianism? The child who does not want his/her mother to get a sleep will never have a dream. Now, Ukraine is about to forgo its independence. What an irony.
Re: Putin Throws Olive Branch To Ukraine, Lists Four Conditions For Peace by Idiko1: 1:19am On Mar 08
saintrow1:

Where is the heat?
Why can't you Nigerians just mind your fuvking business

With all the sanction on Cuba north Korea Iran etc they are still far Nigeria.
Year's ago turkey was under sanction, today they have the best defence industry in the world.
Just learn to shut the fuvk up

Nigeria is not called basket of fools for nothing.
Re: Putin Throws Olive Branch To Ukraine, Lists Four Conditions For Peace by LifeOfTrigga(m): 1:54am On Mar 08
useni1:
Putin new world order. The most powerful man in the world! The world changed the day Russia invaded Ukraine. Russia and China are now the big boys and world police. Putin should continue with the assualt, the longer the war the more Europe who choose to be a vassal state will collapse. The day the dollars dies millions will rejoice from Kashmir to Dakar.

So
You think someone to be causing damages to another country is hero thing or then he is powerful huh. Remember say spider fit use cobweb kill elephant
Re: Putin Throws Olive Branch To Ukraine, Lists Four Conditions For Peace by NGpatriot: 4:02am On Mar 08
Shoodboi:


Russia advanced towards Kyiv from Belarus, and Ukraine couldn't stall the advance? What kind of military is that?

The distance between Belarus and Kyiv is around 494.6 km.

An army unit travels 40km (25 miles) a day so they don't outrun their logistics. (And that figure should be lower if they face stiff resistance.)

Normally, Russia should cover that distance in about 12 days (without resistance and longer with resistance) in 3 (with resistance)? Like WTH?

That's why the West keeps yapping about Russia having logistics problems.

It doesn't. Russia only overstretched its logistics by advancing too quickly and is trying to fix that before delivering the final blow to Kyiv.

The fact that the Russians could advance that quickly indicates they are either good, the Ukranians are terrible, or both. I'll put my money on "both".


This one just made up his own nollywood story....abeg stop, The convoy stopped a long time ago, they are not moving so exactly where did you get your 12 day to distance from?

The convoy piece of chit convoy stopped moving 6 days ago and from today's intelligence briefing, they are still not moving.
Re: Putin Throws Olive Branch To Ukraine, Lists Four Conditions For Peace by zomby(m): 5:59am On Mar 08
NigeriaZoo:


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war-putin-latest-kyiv-zelensky-b2029871.html

The majority of the Russians have already labeled this war as a Putin’s personal war (a war to protect himself and nothing else)

Ukraine shouldn’t negotiate with a criminal…With time the sanctions will take enormous negative effect on an average Russian, and show the weakness of Putin, and that’s when the people of Russia will viciously turn against their president .

The damage is done, Ukraine should hang in there and allow the heavy sanctions to crumble the economy of Russia, that’s when the Russians will step up and go for Putin’s neck; you can never win a war against the world. It is completely impossible…and I think the bully himself (Putin) has begun to realize it.

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Re: Putin Throws Olive Branch To Ukraine, Lists Four Conditions For Peace by justjify(m): 6:13am On Mar 08
FreeStuffsNG:
Any news from British platform just raises my suspicion.

There is this relentless posting of pro-Ukraine news by British news platforms that just do not truly reflect the harsh odds against Ukranians and their President as the losing side. It is as if they are cashing out huge ad revenues from these news at the expense of the fact.

Hyping President Zelensky as a war hero at this time is irresponsible.

Suddenly they are not carrying covid 19 related news. They should not feed from the mysteries of Ukranians rather should sustain the campaign to compel President Putin to withdraw his troops and stop killing the Ukranians.
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Re: Putin Throws Olive Branch To Ukraine, Lists Four Conditions For Peace by useni1: 6:52am On Mar 08
1stGenAmerican:


Another delusional human.
shut up your mouth there. The reason why you came here is to look for husband. I know all of you very well. Lonely and depressed yankee people.
Re: Putin Throws Olive Branch To Ukraine, Lists Four Conditions For Peace by Shoodboi: 7:05am On Mar 08
NGpatriot:



This one just made up his own nollywood story....abeg stop, The convoy stopped a long time ago, they are not moving so exactly where did you get your 12 day to distance from?

The convoy piece of chit convoy stopped moving 6 days ago and from today's intelligence briefing, they are still not moving.

Read to understand. Did I make any mention of the convoy?

The convoy isn't moving since it doesn't need to. It's already outside Kyiv.

I'm talking about the other Russian and Chechen troops who've surrounded the capital. And I used "should" in the sentence and took time to bold other parts so that it's easy to understand.

Please read properly next time. It's good for you and your brain.
Re: Putin Throws Olive Branch To Ukraine, Lists Four Conditions For Peace by NGpatriot: 7:12am On Mar 08
Shoodboi:


Read to understand. Did I make any mention of the convoy?

The convoy isn't moving since it doesn't need to. It's already outside Kyiv.

I'm talking about the other Russian and Chechen troops who've surrounded the capital. And I used "should" in the sentence and took time to bold other parts so that it's easy to understand.

Please read properly next time. It's good for you and your brain.

You did not mention convoy so exactly what were you talking about? Some invisible 40km long people crossing into Ukraine?

You did not mention the convoy, but you concluded that the convoy is not moving and even know the reason why it's not moving, but you still don't know anything about the convoy.

You are not serious, try not to lie and contradict yourself to death.
Re: Putin Throws Olive Branch To Ukraine, Lists Four Conditions For Peace by Shoodboi: 7:25am On Mar 08
NGpatriot:


You did not mention convoy so exactly what were you talking about?

That's why I said you need to read understand.

Some invisible 40km long people crossing into Ukraine?

I wrote: An army unit travels 40km (25 miles) a day so they don't outrun their logistics. (And that figure should be lower if they face stiff resistance.)

I'm talking about the distance and army armored unit travels and not a convoy. Did you read 40km and conclude I was talking about a convoy.

The convoy is 40 miles and not 40 kilometers.

You did not mention the convoy, but you concluded that the convoy is not moving and even know the reason why it's not moving, but you still don't know anything about the convoy.

What are you saying?

You are not serious, try not to lie and contradict yourself to death.

You're the one lying and contradicting yourself. I know it's morning but go to bed. Your head is tired.
Re: Putin Throws Olive Branch To Ukraine, Lists Four Conditions For Peace by Truvelisback(m): 7:41am On Mar 08
TenQ:

What was the agreement between Russia and Ukraine? None!

Russia's problem is not with Ukraine it is with NATO. Ukraine has not yet done anything against Russia!
True, they haven't done anything but wants to make their land a Nest for NATO to lay their eggs. Ukraine president is a SIMP and a feminist in nature. He can't be trusted.
Re: Putin Throws Olive Branch To Ukraine, Lists Four Conditions For Peace by naija4life247: 8:03am On Mar 08
GodHatesBigots:


They will have to negotiate. How would you feel if Nigeria has to cede 4 states to Cameroon in the interest of peace ? It's not that easy.

Meanwhile this is a face saving situation for Putin as he knows that Russia cannot win in the long term, in Ukraine.

Didn't Nigeria cede Bakassi to Cameroon?

Now, tell me, if Chad or Cameroon starts aiding and abetting Boko Haram, won't Nigeria invade the country? Let me remind you, when the evil Mistassini who were like today's Boko Haram started killing in Nigeria and running to hide in Chad during Sheu Shadari administration. This same lifeless Buhari was the commandant of a Platoon in North East then, he chased and killed the Mistassini far into Chad Republic and created a buffer of about 50 kilometers between both countries on Chad's soil. Even when Shagari called Buhari to order, he did not listen, he said terrorists should not be at our borders. Google still has a fraction of this event.

That's the same thing Russia is doing. Terrorists that invaded Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, Yemen, e.t.c. should not have a base beside Russia so that Russia will not wake up one day to discover that the terrorists have overthrown Russians.

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