Dtruthspeaker:


Change of Post! The issue is, The Judge gave a Command.

AND NOT A CASE OF ABOLISH/NOT FULFILL THE LAW!

AntiChristian:


A command that abolished the law right?

RSAV:
God is not against polygamy. It doesn't mean every man must be polygamous. However being polygamous is better than being an adulterer.

MrBrownJay1:
ABRAHAM did it
KING SOLOMON did it
KING DAVID did it
...and they were never seen as sinners (its only when one of them fukcED a "married" woman that he was viewed as a sinner)

MaxInDHouse:


Abraham married his sister {Genesis 20:12} but God later condemned such a thing does that makes Abraham a sinner?
NO!

God permitted so many things to allow humans experience the outcome before he will tell obedient ones what to do!

Polygamy is evil but since Adam chose to do what pleases him God also allowed Adam's descendants to experience the consequences of their father's rebellion.

God is not killing women marrying more than one husbands just as He permitted men marrying more wives!

AntiChristian:
Abraham married his sister in faith not his biological sister!

So Jehovah is not fair you say?

Where did Jehovah make Polygamy evil? And why does Jehovah leave people unguided to suffer consequences before instructing them? This is an example of a bad teacher!

Why didn't Jehovah blame any of those who married more than one wife in the Bible? Why did Jehovah gave David more wives? Why did Jehovah create law not to maltreat first wife in Polygamy?

MaxInDHouse:


God gave Adam one wife, that's the standard!

AntiChristian:


I know you won't answer the questions asked but answer your own question!

Na your way na!

God gave Adam one wife! Your standard!

God gave David many wives! Not Jehovah witness's standard! lol

Jehovah made law to protect first wife in polygamy. Not Jehovah witness's standard! lol

Your standard was created by your founding fathers watchtower not Biblical!

MaxInDHouse:


In the beginning God created one man and one woman, that's the standard.
It's imperfect humans who thought they can find joy in polygamy so God allowed them taste the problem in it!

AntiChristian:

So why didn't God forbid polygamy for David instead of giving him more wives?
Tell us your Jehovah made mistakes and we can close the thread!

MaxInDHouse:


According to God's laws Israelites are not supposed to multiply wives {Deuteronomy 17:17} but then anyone who goes contrary to this will have to face the consequences.
David loves more women so God permitted him to see the bitterness in polygamy!

AntiChristian:

And your God said David was perfect except in the case of Uriah! So this proves that his polygamy was not one of his imperfections! Only murder, adultery and covetousness made him imperfect! You still remain a blind watchtower follower of Jehovah witness!

MaxInDHouse:


Please quote or cite where God said that!

AntiChristian:

For David had done what was right in the eyes of the LORD (JEHOVAH) and had not failed to keep any of the LORD’s commands all the days of his life—except in the case of Uriah the Hittite. 1 Kings 15:5

AntiChristian:
Sometimes, people are indeed honest enough to admit that the Bible really does not prohibit polygamy (polygyny). However, as a hedge against that admission, such ones may then resort to saying one of the following assertions:

"Yes, but God never condoned polygamy."
"Yes, God allowed it, but He was against polygamy."
"Polygamy was only man's idea, not God's".
"Yes, but God never approved of polygamy."

The passage involving 2 Samuel 12:8 rather clearly reveals otherwise.
"And I gave thee thy master's house, and thy master's wives into thy bosom, and gave thee the house of Israel and of Judah; and if that had been too little, I would moreover have given unto thee such and such things."
2 Samuel 12:8.

The context of the verse is that of God, speaking through a prophet (Nathan), calling out David for David's sin of taking another man's wife (Bathsheba, wife of Uriah the Hittite), which is adultery indeed, and for setting up the death of Uriah the Hittite to try to hide David's sin.

Also, at the point in time of this situation, David had already been married to at least seven known-named wives. (1 Samuel 18:27, 25:42-43, 2 Samuel 3:2-5.)

But, in this verse 12 (above), God was not condemning David for all his wives! In fact, this verse 12 shows God Himself actually saying that HE was the One Who had GIVEN David His wives.

If God was against David's polygamy, He certainly would not have said that He had GIVEN David his wives.

But the LORD did not stop there. That verse 12 shows that the Lord took it even one step further than that! The LORD God even went on further to say that if David had wanted more wives, the Lord Himself said that He would have given David even more!

It was only because David had sinned, in committing adultery by taking another man's wife, and then causing that man's death to try to hide David's sin, that the Lord was calling him out through the prophet Nathan. There was no sin in the polygamy at all.

This is later confirmed that this was the only matter by 1 Kings 15:5, which says the following:

"Because David did that which was right in the eyes of the LORD, and turned not aside from any thing that he commanded him all the days of his life, save only in the matter of Uriah the Hittite. "
1 Kings 15:5.

Two verses before that, in 1 Kings 15:3, the Bible says that David's heart was perfect with the LORD God.

Very clearly, therefore, what all this shows is that God is the One Who gives wives, even when more than one wife.

This is, of course, confirmed by 1_Corinthians 7:17.

"But as God hath distributed to every man,
as the Lord hath called every one,
so let him walk.
And so ordain I in all churches."
1 Corinthians 7:17.

Be it
NO wife,
ONE wife, or
MORE THAN ONE wife,
it is only has God calls and gives.

As such, it is clear that the Bible does, in fact, explicitly show

"Yes, God did condone polygamy."
"Yes, God allowed it, and He was not against polygamy."
"Polygamy is not a man's idea, but God's".
"Yes, God did approve of polygamy."
In 2 Samuel 12:8, He Himself said so!

Biblical Polygamy
http://www.biblicalpolygamy.com/exegesis/god-said-he-gave-wives/

MaxInDHouse:


So he was perfect yet the case of Uriah is still mentioned, shey?
Please do you know the meaning of that word PERFECT?

TenQ:

No one said polygamy was a sin in the bible. It is only prescribed for a Bishop (Elder, Pastor, Teacher etc) in the church to have just one wife. No one Denys that in the old testament, polygamy was a norm and it was not a sin.

That aside, you have mouth now to speak without shame!?

Allah prescribed marriage to prepubescent child. For your information, it means a child of any age who has not started menstruations (a 5, 6, 7 years old)? Before you start complaining as usual here it is according to Allah himself.

Quran 65:4.
And if you are in doubt as to the prescribed period for such of your women as have despaired of monthly courses, then know that the prescribed period for them is three months, and also for such as do not have their monthly courses yet. And as for those who are with child, their period shall be until they are delivered of their burden. And whoso fears ALLAH, HE will provide facilities for him in his affair."


Allah's apostle also left an example for you on how to be a pervert child molester

Sahih Muslim 8:3311.
A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported that Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) married her when she was seven years old, and he was taken to his house as a bride when she was nine, and her dolls were with her; and when he (the Holy Prophet) died she was eighteen years old.


You see how Allah legalised pedophilic behaviours in Muslims.

That's why Muslims lie about everything!

Without LIES and DECEIT, Islam dies

AntiChristian:

LYour Bible God said he was right o and the only exception to that was that of Uriah! Polygamy no dey among!
Abeg stop telling lies as an elder and Jehovah witness.

AntiChristian:


Don't be s nincompoop and divert the thread. The topic is about polygamy and the Bible not polygamy in Islam.

If you have nothing related to type just keep your holy spirit shut!

No one said polygamy was a sin in the bible. It is only prescribed for a Bishop (Elder, Pastor, Teacher etc) in the church to have just one wife. No one Denys that in the old testament, polygamy was a norm and it was not a sin.

TenQ:

Mr Antichristian,
I responded to you: here is a snippet


Tit 1:6:
"If any be blameless, the husband of one wife, having faithful children not accused of riot or unruly."


Now about types of marriages of which polygamy is just one, did Allah not prescribe you Muslims marrying prepubescent girls?

Is pedophilic behaviours not allowed by Allah for Muslims?

Simple questions: I'm sure their mouths will freeze now. How many lies will Muslims use to protect Islam!?

AntiChristian:


So since you agree Polygamy is not a sin then keep shut and stop where the thread stops.
When will your Bible/Holy Spirit teach you to keep shut?

TenQ:
Here is it again

Quran 33:56
إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ وَمَلَـٰٓئِكَتَهُۥ يُصَلُّونَ عَلَى ٱلنَّبِىِّ ۚ يَـٰٓأَيُّهَا ٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُوا۟ صَلُّوا۟ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلِّمُوا۟ تَسْلِيمًا
Google Translate:
Indeed, God and His angels send blessings upon the Prophet, O you who have believed, pray upon him, peace and blessings be upon him.

Composition101:
إِنَّ الشيطان وَمَلَائِكَتَهُ يُصَلُّونَ عَلَى النَّبِيِّ ۚ يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا صَلُّوا عَلَيْهِ وَسَلِّمُوا تَسْلِيمًا
Google Translate:
Indeed, Satan and his angels pray to the Prophet ۚ O you who believe, pray for him and give peace
The only difference between the two is the change of one word highlighted.

Suddenly, the meaning changed!?
Who paid Google to mistranslate the Holy Quran?
Who is fooling who?
What then is the correct translation?

Can muslims explain why or how?
What other things are Muslim Apologists hiding under the elusive perfect language (Arabic)?

For your comment if you love the truth:
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MaxInDHouse:

God said David was a man after His heart it doesn't mean David is an examplar for God's people but the one who uphold pure worship throughout his life.
Regarding polygamy God has warned men not to multiply wives for themselves! Deuteronomy 17:17
God didn't impose monogamy on them since they will learn through experience and after all they will die in their sins but the Christ is coming to correct all that blunders. Deuteronomy 18:18-19
So David uphold pure worship based on what he knew but in many instances he wasn't a good example to follow for prospective citizens of God's Kingdom, Jesus is the PERFECT example! John 3:16

AntiChristian:


If Jesus is the perfect example then why not live like him and don't marry?
You keep digressing from the above verse!

The only thing David did wrong was the case of Uriah! Every other thing he did was right in your Jehovah's eyes!
This your God that refuses to teach people but let them experiences evil before he teaches them. May we not worship Jehovah witnesses God o!

Where there's no law there's no sin! Law comes before sin! God told Adam not to eat from such tree! That's the law. It's not that God let him eat from it first before....

I know you are a liar! What you wrote in bold are guidelines for the king!
Guidelines for a King Deuteronomy 17:16-17
…But the king must not acquire many horses for himself or send the people back to Egypt to acquire more horses, for the LORD has said, ‘You are never to go back that way again.’ He must not take many wives for himself, lest his heart go astray. He must not accumulate for himself large amounts of silver and gold.

Stop lying as an elder from Jehovah witness!
I will keep warning you.

MaxInDHouse:

Jesus never got married because he will not last on earth to take care of his children that's why he never got married but he told us that the standard for marriage is what God set in the beginning one man and one woman! Matthew 19:4

David committed a lot of blunders but since you're not ready to learn you can keep arguing blindly. Why did God forbid David from building a temple for Him?

AntiChristian:

Away from your lies now!
33 years and he will not last on earth? Many dies before that age with kids from marriage so that excuse is not tenable from a sensible person!

AntiChristian:

David committed a lot of blunders! So that means the Bible lied that the only blunder he committed was in the case of Uriah!
Who is telling the lies? You or the Bible?

MaxInDHouse:

He knew he can't live long to TRAIN children, sorry Jesus is not a Boko Haram member who can just die and leave his children to suffer so sensible people plan ahead for their children not just bearing children for uncertainty!

God told David that he is not worthy to build God's temple because of lots of blood in his hands so he committed lots of blunders. The only blunder he committed knowingly is that of Uriah's wife while others he committed due to lack of knowledge about the attributes of God: LOVE!

AntiChristian:

A fool thinks himself to be wise...
Everyone hopes to raise their children to age but death can come anytime. Who bears children for uncertainties? What about people who died by accidents? It's only boko Haram you know as a blind bigot!

AntiChristian:

So let's agree your God speaks from both side of the mouth contradicting one another!

AntiChristian:
Sometimes, people are indeed honest enough to admit that the Bible really does not prohibit polygamy (polygyny). However, as a hedge against that admission, such ones may then resort to saying one of the following assertions:

"Yes, but God never condoned polygamy."
"Yes, God allowed it, but He was against polygamy."
"Polygamy was only man's idea, not God's".
"Yes, but God never approved of polygamy."

The passage involving 2 Samuel 12:8 rather clearly reveals otherwise.
"And I gave thee thy master's house, and thy master's wives into thy bosom, and gave thee the house of Israel and of Judah; and if that had been too little, I would moreover have given unto thee such and such things."
2 Samuel 12:8.

The context of the verse is that of God, speaking through a prophet (Nathan), calling out David for David's sin of taking another man's wife (Bathsheba, wife of Uriah the Hittite), which is adultery indeed, and for setting up the death of Uriah the Hittite to try to hide David's sin.

Also, at the point in time of this situation, David had already been married to at least seven known-named wives. (1 Samuel 18:27, 25:42-43, 2 Samuel 3:2-5.)

But, in this verse 12 (above), God was not condemning David for all his wives! In fact, this verse 12 shows God Himself actually saying that HE was the One Who had GIVEN David His wives.

If God was against David's polygamy, He certainly would not have said that He had GIVEN David his wives.

But the LORD did not stop there. That verse 12 shows that the Lord took it even one step further than that! The LORD God even went on further to say that if David had wanted more wives, the Lord Himself said that He would have given David even more!

It was only because David had sinned, in committing adultery by taking another man's wife, and then causing that man's death to try to hide David's sin, that the Lord was calling him out through the prophet Nathan. There was no sin in the polygamy at all.

This is later confirmed that this was the only matter by 1 Kings 15:5, which says the following:

"Because David did that which was right in the eyes of the LORD, and turned not aside from any thing that he commanded him all the days of his life, save only in the matter of Uriah the Hittite. "
1 Kings 15:5.

Two verses before that, in 1 Kings 15:3, the Bible says that David's heart was perfect with the LORD God.

Very clearly, therefore, what all this shows is that God is the One Who gives wives, even when more than one wife.

This is, of course, confirmed by 1_Corinthians 7:17.

"But as God hath distributed to every man,
as the Lord hath called every one,
so let him walk.
And so ordain I in all churches."
1 Corinthians 7:17.

Be it
NO wife,
ONE wife, or
MORE THAN ONE wife,
it is only has God calls and gives.

As such, it is clear that the Bible does, in fact, explicitly show

"Yes, God did condone polygamy."
"Yes, God allowed it, and He was not against polygamy."
"Polygamy is not a man's idea, but God's".
"Yes, God did approve of polygamy."
In 2 Samuel 12:8, He Himself said so!

Biblical Polygamy
http://www.biblicalpolygamy.com/exegesis/god-said-he-gave-wives/

efficiencie:


When den wan lie den go post one million verses.

God allowed Judah sleep with the very same woman (disguised as a LovePeddler) that Judah's first and second sons slept with. Read Genesis 38. So can we also say God allows you to sleep with the same woman your sons have passed among themselves after dying? Can we also say God condone you patronising prostitutes (afterall Judah did it but God didn't complain or punish him). Can you also sleep with your brother's wife after your brother passes on with no heirs. Can you do that particularly when you are already married? God condoned that too you know.

God condoned Jacob marrying two sisters. Can you marry two sisters? God condoned that too, you know. Would you like to know some other things God condoned? Did you know God made Isaiah walk the streets of Jerusalem completely naked for 3 years? Can we say God condones nudity? Did you also know God condoned the mass extermination of the Amalekites? Everything including animals were to be slaughtered in Amalek. Can you go about slaughtering whole communities because God condoned it.

You are just depraved and seeking validation for evil and ofcourse you will easily find that validation (seek and ye shall find).

The just shall live by faith for there is a spirit in man and the inspiration of the Almighty gives them understanding...for as many as are led by spirit of God, they are the sons of God...sons of God do not live by what God condoned or not in the past but by the inspiration of God on any matter, at any point in time and at any given place.

Dtruthspeaker:


An evil will always bend things in evil.way to justify evil.

THIS IS THE TRUE INTERPRETATION.

" I have exalted you high, even higher than your former master and his household and all Isreal Judah, SUCH THAT YOU COULD DO NO WRONG THING! (BECAUSE OF COURSE, THOU KNOWETH NOT TO DO ANY WRONG THING)

THEREFORE, WHY? WHY HATH THOU DONE THIS EVIL, KNOWING I HATE EVIL? EVEN UP TO MURDERING A HUSBAND BECAUSE OF HIS WIFE?, ATOP ALL THE OTHER THINGS THOU HATH DONE, YET I KEPT SILENT?"

That is the accurate Interpretation of that passage.

God did not give him wives! He gave him a Nation to Rule, to implement God's Laws on them.

But, here we see the King, being as a criminal, breaking The Same Law he promised to implement.

And we see, God Greatly Punished him

So as usual, you speak Lies and Filth.

O Lord, surely, it is time to Judge the world! That all evils be permanently cast into The Fire no man can quench.