SHALOM!

sonmvayina:

I created this thread for me and MaxInDHouse to thrash a very important argument. Anybody who cares to join can do so, but we must stay on topic. Only intelligent distraction will be entertained.

I HAVE BEEN POSTING SINCE 2016, AND HAVE NEVER RECEIVED A SINGLE INTELLIGENT OR SINCERE RESPONSE.

Abnormal Terminal Punctuation is usually indicative of Undercover Agent Trolling.

sonmvayina:

When did Satan get rulership of earth. ?

. GENESIS 1:26-28.

26. And God Said,

"Let us make Man in Our Image, after Our Likeness:
and let them have Dominion
over the Fish of the Sea,
and over the Fowl of the Air,
and over the Cattle,
and over all the Earth,
and over every Creeping Thing
that Creepeth upon the Earth.
27. So God created Man
in His Own Image,
in The Image of God
created He him;
male and female created He them.
28. And God Blessed them,
and God said unto them,

"Be fruitful, and multiply,
and replenish the Earth,
and subdue It:
and have Dominion
over the Fish of the Sea,
and over the Fowl of the Air,
and over every Living Thing
that moveth upon the Earth.”

GOD GAVE DOMINION OVER THE EARTH TO MAN: MEN WHO ENSLAVE THEMSELVES TO SATAN GIVE THAT DOMINION TO HIM.

sonmvayina:

Who is Satan by the way. ?
Who is the devil ?

. REVELATION 12:7-10.

7. And there was War in Heaven:
Michael and his Angels
fought against the Dragon;
and the Dragon fought
and his Angels,
8. And prevailed not;
neither was their place
found any more in Heaven.
9. And the great Dragon
was cast out,
That Old Serpent,
called the Devil,
and Satan,
which deceiveth the whole World:
he was cast out into the Earth,
and his Angels
were cast out with him.

THE SERPENT, SATAN, AND THE DEVIL ARE THE SAME BEING: THE WAR IN HEAVEN HAS NOT HAPPENED YET.

sonmvayina:

What is the extent of his power..

. JOHN 1:1-14.

IN The Beginning was The Word,
and The Word was with God,
and The Word was God.
2. The same was in
The Beginning with God.
3. All things were made by Him;
and without Him
was not any thing made
that was made.
4. In Him was Life;
and The Life was The Light of Men.
5. And the light shineth in Darkness;
and The Darkness
comprehended it not.

6. There was a man sent from God,
whose name was John.
7. The same came for a witness,
to bear witness of The Light,
that all men through him
might believe.
8. He was not That Light,
but was sent
to bear witness of That Light.

9. That was The True Light,
Which lighteth every man
that cometh into the World.

10. He was in the World,
and the World was made by him,
and the World knew him not.
11. He came unto his own,
and his own received him not.
12. But as many as received him,
to them gave he Power
to become the Sons of God,
even to them
that believe on his Name:
13. Which were Born,
not of blood,
nor of the Will of the Flesh,
nor of the Will of Man,
but of God.
14. And the Word was made Flesh,
and dwelt among us,
[and we beheld his Glory,
the Glory as of
the only begotten of The Father,]
full of Grace and Truth.

TWO GREEK TERMS ARE DISHONESTLY TRANSLATED "WORD:" RHEMA- THE SPOKEN WORD, AND LOGOS- THE RECORDED WORD.

The term used in JOHN 1:1,14 is LOGOS. This is the GOD-SEED Spiritual Energy Image that is GOD, and Spiritual Source of every RHEMA Word of God.

. MATTHEW 13:19.

19. "When any one
heareth The Word of The Kingdom,
and Understandeth (It) not,
then cometh The Wicked (One),
and catcheth away That
Which was sown in his heart.
This is he which received seed
By The Way Side."

SATAN HAS THE POWER TO REMOVE THE LOGOS FROM THE HEARTS OF SINNERS- THAT INCLUDES THE DIVINE IMPRINT OF THE COMMANDS OF GOD THAT HE GIVES EVERY CREATURE BORN.

sonmvayina:

This questions forms the bulk of the Christian religion.
But who are they?
In my opinion, Satan simply means "adversary" anybody or anyone can be an adversary to any one.

MATURE ADULTS TRUST AUTHORITATIVE PROOFS OVER "PERSONAL OPINIONS."

sonmvayina:

There are different instances it was used in the Jewish scriptures. I think to understand a wordi in the Bible, we have to go to when it was first used. Satan was first used in the story or Balam and Barak.

WHEN A TROLL TELLS YOU SOMETHING IS IN THE BIBLE, BUT DOES NOT SHOW YOU, THEY ARE MORE OFTEN THAN NOT LYING.

The first of 19 mentions of the Name "SATAN" in the Old Testament is 1^th CHRONICLES 21:1.

Strong's Concordance: 7854. SAW-TAWN: An Opponent. The Arch-Enemy of Good.

. NUMBERS 22:22.

22. And God's Anger was kindled
because he went:
and the Angel of The LORD
stood in the way for an Adversary
against him.
Now he was riding upon his ass,
and his two servants were with him.

IT IS A HEBREW CUSTOM TO GIVE PEOPLE NAMES WITH MEANINGS.

For instance a foolish man, who provoked Dawid, was called "NABAL," which means "fool."

This sort of thing lends credence to the idea that The Bible is just "an allegory."

sonmvayina:

Here it denotes an obstacle. The next time it will be used again is in the story of job. Here we learn that he was part of the sons of God, and was under the control and power of God and does only what God tells him to do.

THE BIBLE NEVER SAID THAT SATAN WAS A PART OF THE SONS OF GOD: IT MERELY SAID THAT HE CAME AMONGST THE SONS OF GOD.

. JOB 1:6.

6. Now there was a day
when The Sons of God
came to present themselves
before The LORD,
and Satan came also
among them.

THE BASIS OF HIS GATECRASHING WAS HIS DOMINATION OF MANKIND: GOD CHALLENGED HIS RIGHT TO BE IN THAT ASSEMBLY, AND EXPELLED HIM.

.    MATTHEW 22:1-14.

AND Jesus Answered
and Spake unto them again
by Parables,
and Said,

2. "The Kingdom of Heaven
is like unto a certain king,
which made a marriage
for his son,
3. "And sent forth his servants
to call them that were bidden
to the wedding:
and they would not come.
4. "Again, he sent forth
other servants,
saying,

'TELL THEM
WHICH ARE BIDDEN,

"BEHOLD,
I HAVE PREPARED MY DINNER:
MY OXEN AND MY FATLINGS
ARE KILLED,
AND ALL THINGS ARE READY:
COME UNTO THE MARRIAGE." '

5. "But they made light of it,
and went their ways,
one to his farm,
another to his merchandise:
6. "And the remnant
took his servants,
and entreated them spitefully,
and slew them.
7. "But when the king heard thereof,
he was wroth:
and he sent forth his armies,
and destroyed those murderers,
and burned up their city.
8. Then saith he to his servants,

'THE WEDDING IS READY,
BUT THEY WHICH WERE BIDDEN
WERE NOT WORTHY.
9. 'GO YE THEREFORE
INTO THE HIGHWAYS,
AND AS MANY
AS YE SHALL FIND,
BID TO THE MARRIAGE.'

10. "So those servants
went out
into the highways,
and gathered together all
as many as they found,
both bad and good:
and the wedding
was furnished with guests.
11. "And when the king
came in
to see the guests,
he saw there a man
which had not on
a wedding garment:
12. "And he saith unto him,

'FRIEND,
HOW CAMEST THOU
IN HITHER NOT HAVING
A WEDDING GARMENT?'

And he was speechless.
13. "Then said the king
to the servants,

'BIND HIM
HAND AND FOOT,
AND CAST HIM
INTO OUTER DARKNESS,
THERE SHALL BE WEEPING
AND GNASHING OF TEETH.
14. 'FOR MANY ARE CALLED
BUT FEW (ARE) CHOSEN.'

sonmvayina:

This Satan has no will outside of the will of God.

GOD SENT SATAN TO TEST JOB, AND HE KILLED ALL OF JOB'S CHILDREN AND SERVANTS, BUT FOR SOLE SURVIVORS- AND INFLICTED SEVERE TORTURE ON JOB.

He could have fulfilled God's Mandate without harming anyone.

Notice that Lord Yeshua never allowed Satan to pull any such nonsense on him.

sonmvayina:

The scriptures clearly state that the earth belongs to God and the fullness thereof.

.    PSALMS 24:1.

[A Psalm of David.]

The Earth is The LORD'S,
and the fulness thereof;
the World,
and they that dwell therein.

DAWID DID NOT KNOW WHAT HE WAS TAKING ABOUT: NONE OF THE OLD PROPHETS BUT MOSES ACTUALLY DID.

They rejected the Responsibility for the Dominion over all of the Earth God gave Man.

One of the Organized Christianity Deceptions is the obfuscation of the terms "the Earth" and "the World."

The Earth means the Dry Land.

The World means Human Civilization.

sonmvayina:

That is why I wanted to know when Satan God the rulership of earth and when did he become a dual opposite of God?

WHO TOLD YOU THAT SATAN WAS A DUAL OPPOSITE OF GOD? PLEASE STOP CONFABULATING THE BIBLE RELIGION WITH OYINBO MYTHOLOGY AND THEOLOGY.

THE DEVILS feed on SIN, ERROR, FAILURE, and DEATH. That is how they survive. They tear apart the Souls of the Dead who die without TOTAL RECALL, to scavenge their Life Energies.

They need to do these things to survive.

[See: THE EAGLE'S GIFT, by Carlos Castaneda (1981).
THE FIRE FROM WITHIN, by Carlos Castaneda (1985).
THE POWER OF SILENCE, by Carlos Castaneda (1987).
THE ACTIVE SIDE OF INFINITY, by Carlos Castaneda (1998).]

sonmvayina:

Devil on the other hand is a creation of the catholic church and the most important in their religion.

So MaxInDHouse over to you..

THAT IS A STUPID IDEA: NONE OF THE 23 CATHOLIC CHURCHES WROTE THE BIBLE.

(You think that the ROMAN CATHOLIC Church is the only one.)

MaxInDHouse:

Now you've done the needful!

GOD DECREED THAT CHILDREN SHOULD LEARN HIS WAY FROM THEIR PARENTS.

If the Sons have failed to learn The Way of God by age 20, God Commanded by Moses that they should be ritually-executed by their parents.

Since Yeshua bar Nun failed to lay that foundation, Y'srael fell into corruption, and never recovered.

Many of The Prophets were martyred, and had their Life's Works corrupted by Y'sraelites who should have been executed by their own parents, in their childhoods.

MaxInDHouse:

So many people can learn from this even though you will end up calling me names!

oaroloye:


. JOSHUA 1:8.

8. "This Book of The Law
shall not depart
out of thy mouth
but thou shalt meditate
therein day and night,
that thou mayest do
according to all
that is written therein:
for then thou shalt
make thy way prosperous,
and then thou shalt have
Good Success."

. PSALM 1:1-6.

BLESSED is the man
that walketh not
in The Counsel of the Ungodly,
nor standeth in the Way of Sinners,
nor sitteth in the Seat of the Scornful.
2. But his delight is
in The Law of The LORD;
and in His Law
doth he meditate day and night.
3. And he shall be like a tree
planted by the rivers of water,
that bringeth forth his fruit
in his season;
his leaf also shall not wither;
and whatsoever he doeth
shall prosper.
4. The Ungodly are not so:
but are like the chaff
which the wind driveth away.
5.Therefore the Ungodly
shall not stand
in The Judgment,
nor Sinners
in The Congregation
of The Righteous.
6. For The LORD knoweth
The Way of the Righteous:
but the Way of the Ungodly
shall Perish.

. PSALM 119:97-105.

97. O how I love Thy Law!
It is my meditation all the day.
98. Thou through Thy Commandments
hast made me Wiser
than mine enemies:
for They are ever with me.
99 I have more Understanding
than all my teachers:
for Thy Testimonies
are my meditation.
100. I understand
more than the Ancients,
because I keep Thy Precepts.
101. I have refrained my feet
from every Evil Way,
that I might keep Thy Word.
102. I have not departed
from Thy Judgments:
for Thou hast taught me.
103. How sweet are Thy Words
unto my taste!
yea, sweeter than honey
to my mouth!
104. Through Thy Precepts
I get Understanding:
therefore I hate every False Way.
105. Thy Word is a Lamp
unto my feet,
and a Light unto my path.

oaroloye:


. JOB 28:28.

28. "And unto Man He Said,

'BEHOLD,
THE FEAR OF THE LORD,
THAT IS WISDOM;
AND TO DEPART FROM EVIL,
IS UNDERSTANDING.' "

. JOB 39:13-18.

13. "Gavest thou the goodly wings
unto the peacocks?
or wings and feathers
unto the ostrich?
14. "Which leaveth
her eggs in the earth,
and warmeth them in dust,
15. "And forgetteth
that the foot may crush them,
or that the wild beast
may break them.
16. "She is hardened
against her young ones,
as though they were not her's:
her labour is in vain without fear;
17. "Because God hath
deprived her of Wisdom,
neither hath He
imparted to her Understanding.
18." What time she
lifteth up herself on high,
she scorneth
the horse and his rider."

. PSALM 111:10.

10. The Fear of The LORD
is The Beginning of Wisdom:
a Good Understanding
have all they
that do His Commandments:
His Praise endureth for ever.

. PROVERBS 1:7.

7. The Fear of The LORD
is The Beginning of Knowledge:
but Fools despise
Wisdom and Instruction.

. PROVERBS 9:10.

10. The Fear of The LORD
is The Beginning of Wisdom:
and The Knowledge of
The Holy is Understanding.

. AMOS 3:3.

3. Can two walk together,
except they be agreed?"

THERE IS SCOPE FOR YOU TO LEARN, BUT IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR ANY OF YOU TO LEARN THE TRUTH.

. DEUTERONOMY 30:19-20.

19. I call Heaven and Earth
to record this day against you,
that I have set before you
Life and Death,
Blessing and Cursing:
therefore CHOOSE LIFE,

That both thou
and thy seed may live:

20. That thou mayest
love The LORD thy God,

And that thou mayest
obey His Voice,

and that thou mayest
cleave unto Him:

for He is thy Life,
and the Length of thy days:

That thou mayest dwell
in the land
which The LORD sware
unto thy fathers,
to Abraham, to Isaac,
and to Jacob,
to give them.

THAT IS BECAUSE NOT ONE OF YOU HERE HAS CHOSEN LIFE.

The only way to achieve GOOD SUCCESS is by MEDITATING UPON THE LAW OF MOSES. None of you know how to do that. None of you want to to that.

MaxInDHouse:

God created the heavens and the earth! Genesis 1:1

. JOHN 1:1-14.

10. He was in the World,
and the World was made by him,
and the World knew him not.

LORD YESHUA IS NOT THE CREATOR OF HEAVEN AND EARTH: THE LOGOS CREATED ALL THINGS.

Lord Yeshua was not God.

YOCHANNAN explicitly stated that Lord Yeshua created the World.

. LEVITICUS 19:14.

14. "Thou shalt not
curse the deaf,
nor put a stumblingblock
before the blind,
but shalt fear thy God:
I (am) The LORD."

. DEUTERONOMY 27:18.

18. "CURSED BE HE
THAT MAKETH THE BLIND
TO WANDER OUT OF THE WAY."

And all the people shall say,

"AMEN."

DISIPLE YOCHANNAN WAS DELIBERATELY LYING, TO DELIBERATELY DESTROY US.

The Hebrews believed it their Sacred Duty to destroy The Gentiles by any means necessary.

. JUDITH 9:1-5.

Judith fell upon her face,
and put ashes upon her head,
and uncovered the sackcloth
wherewith she was clothed;
and about the time
that the Incense of that evening
was offered in Jerusalem
in the House of the Lord
Judith cried with a loud voice,
and said,

2. "O Lord God of my father Simeon,
to whom thou gavest a sword
to take vengeance of the strangers,
who loosened the girdle of a maid
to defile her,
and discovered the thigh
to her shame,
and polluted her virginity
to her reproach;
for Thou Saidst,

"IT SHALL NOT BE SO;"

and yet they did so:
3. "Wherefore Thou gavest
their rulers to be slain,
so that they dyed their bed
in blood,
being deceived,
and smotest the servants
with their lords,
and the lords upon their thrones;
4. And hast given their wives
for a prey,
and their daughters to be captives,
and all their spoils
to be divided
among Thy dear Children;
which were moved with Thy Zeal,
and abhorred the pollution
of their blood,
and called upon Thee for aid:
O God,
O my God,
hear me also a widow.
5. "For Thou hast wrought
not only those things,
but also the things
which fell out before,
and which ensued after;
Thou hast thought upon
the things which are now,
and which are to come."

MaxInDHouse:

Satan rebelled against God, left heaven and decided to woo humans into becoming his own worshipers! Genesis 3:1-5

GENESIS 3:1-5.[/u][/b]

NOW the Serpent
was more subtil
than any Beast
of the Field which
The LORD God
had made.
And he said unto
the Woman,

"Yea, hath God Said,

'YE SHALL NOT EAT
OF EVERY TREE
OF THE GARDEN?' "

2. And the Woman said
unto the Serpent,

"We may eat
of the Fruit of the Trees
of the Garden:
3. But of the Fruit of the Tree
which is in the midst
of the Garden,
God hath Said,

'YE SHALL NOT EAT OF IT,
NEITHER SHALL YE TOUCH IT,
LEST YE DIE.' "

4. And the Serpent said
unto the Woman,

"Ye shall not surely die:
5. "For God doth know
that in the day
ye eat thereof,
then your eyes
shall be opened,
and ye shall be as gods,
knowing Good and Evil."

NEITHER GENESIS 3:15, NOR ANY OTHER VERSE OF THE BIBLE SAYS THAT SATAN EVER REBELLED AGAINST GOD, OR THAT THE SERPENT CAME FROM HEAVEN: TYPICAL JEHOVAH'S WITLESS™ PSY-OPS, SUPPORTING OYINBO MYTHOLOGY.

MaxInDHouse:

Adam (God's first earthly Son) {Luke 3:38} sided with Satan! Genesis 3:5-6

THE PSY-OP IS THAT YOU ARE DOING THE SAME THING.

MaxInDHouse:

Ever since then 99.9 % of earth's population began doing Satan's will! Genesis 6:6

. GENESIS 6:6.

6. And it repented The LORD
that He had made Man
on the Earth,
and It grieved Him at His Heart.

THAT IS NOT WHAT THAT SCRIPTURE SAYS AT ALL!

The Jehovah's Witlesses™ desperately need you to accept their propensity for declaring that Scriptures say things that It doesn't.

Once you have chopped that... Big Bogus, they can feed you any bullshit they want!

Azazel is Satan. He descended into darkness with the flame of the God's he was the one who implanted the creative power into human and thought us magic so we can bypass Gods laws. Even in revelation some Demons are been chained if not humanity would not survive. The Gods feeds on humanity.

MaxInDHouse:

Whoever has the majority is the one in control! Psalms 14:1-3

. PSALM 14:1-7.

[1To the Chief Musician,
A Psalm of David.]

THE Fool hath said in his heart,

"THERE IS NO GOD."

They are corrupt,
they have done abominable works,
there is none that doeth good.
2. The LORD looked down from Heaven
upon the Children of Men,
to see if there were any
that did understand,
and seek God.
3. They are all gone aside,
they are all together become filthy:
there is none that doeth good,
no, not one.

TYPICAL JEHOVAH'S WITLESS™ LYING: PSALM 14:1-3 SAYS NOTHING ABOUT WHOEVER IS IN A MAJORITY BEING IN CONTROL.

. GENESIS 18:32.

32. And he said,

"Oh let not The Lord be angry,
and I will speak yet but this once:

'PERADVENTURE TEN
SHALL BE FOUND THERE.' "

And He Said,

"I will not destroy it
for ten's sake."

TEN RIGHTEOUS MEN OUTWEIGH THE SINS OF A WHOLE CITY: A MAJORITY IS NOT NECESSARY.

. MARK 5:9.

9. And he Asked him,

"What is thy name?"

And he answered,
saying,

"My Name is Legion:
for we are many."

AS YOU CAN SEE, NUMERICAL SUPERIORITY MEANS NOTHING TO A SERVANT OF GOD.

MaxInDHouse:

Satan asked Jesus to join his government since the world and all the governmental seats are under Satan's control! Luke 4:5-7

THAT IS NOT WHAT HAPPENED: SATAN OFFERED TO SURRENDER THE GOVERNMENTS OF THE WORLD TO LORD YESHUA, IF HE WOULD WORSHIP HIM ONCE.

The Government Seats are under Satan's Control only if the Church allows them to be.

.    LUKE 10:16-24.

16. "He that heareth you
heareth me;
and he that despiseth you
despiseth me;
and he that despiseth me
despiseth Him
that sent me."

17. And the seventy returned
again with joy,
saying,

"Lord, even the Devils
are subject unto us
through thy Name."

18. And he Said unto them,

"I beheld Satan as lightning
fall from Heaven.
19. "Behold,
I give unto you Power
to tread on Serpents
and Scorpions,
and over all
the Power of the Enemy:
and nothing shall
by any means hurt you."
20. "Notwithstanding
in this rejoice not,
 that the spirits are subject
unto you;
but rather rejoice,
because your Names
are written in Heaven."

21. In that Hour
Jesus rejoiced in spirit,
and Said,

"I thank Thee,
O Father,
Lord of Heaven and Earth,
that thou hast hid these things
from the wise and prudent,
and hast revealed them
unto babes:
even so, Father;
for so it seemed Good
in Thy Sight.
22. "All things are
delivered to me
of my Father:
and no man knoweth
who The Son is,
but The Father;
and Who The Father is,
but The Son,
and he to whom The Son
will reveal him."

23. And he turned him
unto his Disciples,
and Said privately,

"Blessed are the eyes
which see The Things
that ye see:

24. "For I Tell you,

'THAT MANY
PROPHETS
AND KINGS
HAVE DESIRED TO SEE
THOSE THINGS
WHICH YE SEE,
AND HAVE NOT
SEEN THEM;
AND TO HEAR
THOSE THINGS
WHICH YE HEAR,
AND HAVE NOT
HEARD THEM.' "

MaxInDHouse:

So until God's Kingdom comes {Matthew 6:10} to destroy all Satan's agents {Daniel 2:44} Satan remains the ruler of this world! John 14:30; 2 Corinthians4:4; 1John 5:19

GOD'S KINGDOM IS WHEREVER TEN RIGHTEOUS WORK IN UNISON: THE JEWS CALL THIS THE MINYAN.

The Top Oyinbo Christian Leaders should all know about this: they do not want you to know about this.

. MARK 1:14-15.

14. Now after that
John was put in prison,
Jesus came into Galilee,
preaching The Gospel
of the Kingdom of God,
15. And Saying,

"The time is fulfilled,
and The Kingdom of God
is at hand:
Repent ye,
and believe The Gospel."

. MATTHEW 6:9-10.

9. "After this manner
therefore pray ye:

'OUR FATHER
WHICH ART IN HEAVEN,
HALLOWED BE THY NAME.
10. 'THY KINGDOM COME.
THY WILL BE DONE IN EARTH,
AS (IT IS) IN HEAVEN.' "

. MATTHEW 10:7-10.

7. "And as ye go,
preach, saying,

'THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN
IS AT HAND.'

8. "HEAL the SICK,
CLEANSE the LEPERS,
RAISE the DEAD,
CAST out DEVILS:
freely ye have received,
freely give."

LORD YESHUA TAUGHT THAT THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN/THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS WHEREVER HIS GOSPEL IS PREACHED: THE JEHOVAH'S WITLESSES™ DO NOT WANT ANYONE TO KNOW THAT, EITHER.

. ECCLESIASTES 8:1-5.

WHO is as the wise man?
And who knoweth
the interpretation of a thing?
A man's wisdom
maketh his face to shine,
and the boldness of his face
shall be changed.
2. I counsel thee
to keep
the king's commandment,
and that in regard
of the Oath of God.
3. Be not hasty
to go out of his sight:
stand not in an Evil Thing;
for he doeth
whatsoever pleaseth him.
4. Where the word of a king is,
there is power:
and who may say unto him,

"WHAT DOEST THOU?"

5. Whoso keepeth
the commandment
shall feel no evil thing:
and a wise man's heart
discerneth both
Time and Judgment.

MaxInDHouse:

May you have PEACE!

. PSALM 28:3.

3. Draw me not away
with the Wicked,
and with The Workers of Iniquity,
which speak Peace
to their neighbours,
but mischief is in their hearts.

. ISAIAH 48:22.

22. "(There is) no Peace,"
Saith The LORD,
"unto The Wicked."

BY WHAT AUTHORITY DO YOU CONFER PEACE UPON UNBELIEVERS?

It is not that it is impossible- but Peace cannot be bestowed in a vacuum. You clearly do not know what you are talking about.

Damnfailure:

Azazel is Satan. He descended into darkness with the flame of the God's he was the one who implanted the creative power into human and thought us magic so we can bypass Gods laws.

"DAMN FAILURE" IS RIGHT! YOU ACTUALLY BELIEVE THIS RUBBISH!

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Azazel

Damnfailure:

Even in revelation some Demons are been chained if not humanity would not survive. The Gods feeds on humanity.

THE TERM "DEMON" IS NOT IN THE REAL BIBLE: NO DEVIL CAN WITHSTAND THE NAME OF LORD YESHUA.

. THE TEN TALENTS OF POWER. (Matt. 25)

(1) TOTAL RECALL.
(2) EXTRASENSORY PERCEPTION.
(3) TELEKINESIS.
(4) TELEPORTATION.
(5) TRANSLATION.
(6-10) EVERLASTING LIFE.

The Devils have disconnected them from The Force of Life God sends to everything that lives, because it destroys Sinners over time.

[See: THE FIRE FROM WITHIN, by Carlos Castaneda (1985).]

The Book of Revelation is largely plagiarized from ESSENE SECT Mythology- which is the background of both YOCHANNAN BAPTIST, and the Self-Proclaimed "Beloved Disciple" YOCHANNAN.

[See: THE ESSENE GOSPEL OF PEACE.]

It is not reliable.

YOCHANNAN IS THE MAD DISCIPLE WHO DID NOT WANT US TO KNOW THAT WE ALL HAVE POWER OVER THE DEVILS, THROUGH THE NAME OF LORD YESHUA.

. MARK 9:38-50.

38. And John answered him,
saying,

"Master, we saw one
casting out Devils
in thy Name,
and he followeth not us:
and we forbad him,
because he followeth not us."

39. But Jesus Said,

"Forbid him not:
for there is no man
which shall do a miracle
in my Name,
that can lightly speak evil of me.
40. "For he that is not against us
is on our part.
41. "For whosoever shall give you
a cup of water to drink
in my Name,
because ye belong to Christ,
verily I Say unto you,

'HE SHALL NOT
LOSE HIS REWARD.'

42. "And whosoever shall offend
one of these little ones
that believe in me,
it is better for him
that a millstone were
hanged about his neck,
and he were cast into the Sea.
43. "And if thy hand offend thee,
cut it off:
it is better for thee
to enter into Life maimed,
than having two hands
to go into Hell,
into the Fire
that never shall be quenched:
44. "Where their worm dieth not,
and the Fire is not quenched.
45. "And if thy foot offend thee,
cut it off:
it is better for thee
to enter halt into Life,
than having two feet
to be cast into Hell,
into the Fire
that never shall be quenched:
46. "Where their worm dieth not,
and the fire is not quenched.
47. "And if thine eye offend thee,
pluck it out:
it is better for thee
to enter into
The Kingdom of God
with one eye,
than having two eyes
to be cast into Hell Fire:
48. "Where their worm dieth not,
and The Fire is not quenched.
49. "For every one
shall be salted with fire,
and every sacrifice
shall be salted with salt.
50. "Salt is good:
but if the salt have lost his saltness,
wherewith will ye season it?
Have salt in yourselves,
and have peace one with another."

THE EARLY CHURCH WAS ALLOWED TO OPERATE OUT OF YASHARAYLIM FOR DECADES, WHEREAS LORD YESHUA WAS KILLED AFTER ONLY ONE WEEK, BECAUSE THEY SWORE AN OATH BEFORE THE CHIEF PRIESTS AND SANHEDRIN, THAT THEY WOULD NEVER TEACH NOR PREACH THEIR MASTER'S TEACHINGS, EVER AGAIN.

They furthermore betrayed the Church, by telling the first Christians that they could go back to their Synagogues- which had banned them, before the Crucifixion, so that the SANHEDRIN'S BOUNTY HUNTERS could catch them.

Nobody mentions that SAUL was paid 30 pieces of silver for each Christian he brought in.

. ACTS 15:1-31.

AND certain men
which came down from Judaea
taught the Brethren,
and said,

“EXCEPT YE BE CIRCUMCISED
AFTER THE MANNER OF MOSES,
YE CANNOT BE SAVED.”

2. When therefore Paul and Barnabas
had no small dissension
and disputation with them,
they determined that
Paul and Barnabas,
and certain other of them,
should go up to Jerusalem
unto the Apostles and Elders
about this question.
3. And being brought on their way
by the Church,
they passed through
Phenice and Samaria,
declaring the Conversion
of the Gentiles:
and they caused great joy
unto all the Brethren.
4. And when they were
come to Jerusalem,
they were received of the Church,
and of the Apostles and Elders,
and they declared all things
that God had done with them.
5. But there rose up certain of the sect
of the Pharisees which Believed,
saying,

"THAT IT WAS NEEDFUL
TO CIRCUMCISE THEM,
AND TO COMMAND THEM
TO KEEP THE LAW OF MOSES."

6. And the Apostles and Elders
came together
for to consider of this matter.
7. And when there had been
much disputing,
Peter rose up,
and said unto them,

“Men and Brethren,
ye know how
that a good while ago
God made choice among us,
that the Gentiles by my mouth
should hear
the Word of The Gospel,
and Believe.
8. And God,
which knoweth the hearts,
bare them witness,
giving them The Holy Ghost,
even as he did unto us;
9. “And put no difference
between us and them,
purifying their hearts by Faith.
10. "Now therefore
why tempt ye God,
to put a yoke
upon the neck of the Disciples,
which neither our fathers
nor we were able to bear?
11. “But we believe that
through The Grace
of the Lord Jesus Christ
we shall be Saved,
even as they.”

12. Then all the multitude
kept silence,
and gave audience
to Barnabas and Paul,
declaring what
miracles and wonders
God had wrought among
the Gentiles by them.
13. And after they had
held their peace,
James answered,
saying,

"Men and Brethren,
hearken unto me:
14. "Simeon hath declared how God
at the first did visit the Gentiles,
to take out of them
a people for His Name.
15." And to this agree
The Words of the Prophets;
as it is written,

16. 'AFTER THIS I WILL RETURN,
AND WILL BUILD AGAIN
THE TABERNACLE OF DAVID,
WHICH IS FALLEN DOWN;
AND I WILL BUILD AGAIN
THE RUINS THEREOF,
AND I WILL SET IT UP:
17. 'THAT THE RESIDUE OF MEN
MIGHT SEEK AFTER THE LORD,
AND ALL THE GENTILES,
UPON WHOM MY NAME IS CALLED,
SAITH THE LORD,
WHO DOETH ALL THESE THINGS.'

18. "Known unto God
are all His Works
from The Beginning of the World.
19. "Wherefore my sentence is,
that we trouble not them,
which from among the Gentiles
are turned to God:
20. "But that we write unto them,
that they abstain from
pollutions of idols
and from fornication,
and from things strangled,
and from blood.
21. "For Moses of Old Time
hath in every city
them that preach him,
being read in the synagogues
every Sabbath Day."

22. Then pleased it the Apostles
and Elders
with the whole Church,
to send chosen men
of their own company
to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas;
namely, Judas surnamed Barsabas
and Silas,
chief men among the Brethren:
23. And they wrote letters by them
after this manner;

“THE APOSTLES
AND ELDERS AND BRETHREN
SEND GREETING
UNTO THE BRETHREN
WHICH ARE OF THE GENTILES
IN ANTIOCH AND SYRIA
AND CILICIA.
24. “FORASMUCH AS
WE HAVE HEARD,
THAT CERTAIN WHICH
WENT OUT FROM US
HAVE TROUBLED YOU WITH WORDS,
SUBVERTING YOUR SOULS,
SAYING,

'YE MUST BE CIRCUMCISED,
AND KEEP THE LAW:'

TO WHOM WE GAVE
NO SUCH COMMANDMENT:

25. “IT SEEMED GOOD UNTO US,
BEING ASSEMBLED WITH ONE ACCORD,
TO SEND CHOSEN MEN UNTO YOU
WITH OUR BELOVED
BARNABAS AND PAUL,
26. “MEN THAT HAVE
HAZARDED THEIR LIVES
FOR THE NAME
OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST.
27. “WE HAVE SENT THEREFORE
JUDAS AND SILAS,
WHO SHALL ALSO TELL YOU
THE SAME THINGS BY MOUTH.
28. “FOR IT SEEMED GOOD
TO THE HOLY GHOST,
AND TO US, TO LAY UPON YOU
NO GREATER BURDEN
THAN THESE NECESSARY THINGS;

29. 'THAT YE ABSTAIN FROM MEATS
OFFERED TO IDOLS,
AND FROM BLOOD,
AND FROM THINGS STRANGLED,
AND FROM FORNICATION:

"FROM WHICH
IF YE KEEP YOURSELVES,
YE SHALL DO WELL.
FARE YE WELL. ”

30. So when they were dismissed,
they came to Antioch:
and when they had
gathered the multitude together,
they delivered the Epistle:
31. Which when they had read,
they rejoiced for the consolation.

THE DISCIPLES NOT ONLY WITHHELD THE GOSPEL OF LORD YESHUA, BUT ALSO THE LAW OF MOSES: THIS GUARANTEED THE DESTRUCTION OF THE SOULS OF BOTH THE JEWS AND THE GENTILES.

. 1^st JOHN 3:1-18.

BEHOLD,
what manner of Love
The Father hath
bestowed upon us,
that we should be called
The Sons of God:
therefore the World
knoweth us not,
because It knew him not.
2. Beloved,
now are we
The Sons of God,
and it doth not yet appear
what we shall be:
but we know that,

"WHEN HE SHALL APPEAR,
WE SHALL BE LIKE HIM;
FOR WE SHALL SEE HIM
AS HE IS."

3. And every man
that hath this Hope in him
purifieth himself,
even as he is pure.
4. Whosoever committeth Sin
transgresseth also The Law:
for Sin is the Transgression
of The Law.
5. And ye know
that he was manifested
to take away our Sins;
and in him is no Sin.
6. Whosoever abideth in him
Sinneth not:
whosoever Sinneth
hath not seen him,
neither known him.
7. Little Children,
let no man deceive you:

"HE THAT DOETH RIGHTEOUSNESS
IS RIGHTEOUS,
EVEN AS HE IS RIGHTEOUS."

8. He that committeth Sin
is of The Devil;
for The Devil Sinneth
From The Beginning.
For this cause
The Son of God
was manifested,

"THAT HE MIGHT DESTROY
THE WORKS OF THE DEVIL."

9. Whosoever is Born of God
doth not commit Sin:
for His Seed
remaineth in him,
and he cannot Sin,
because he is Born of God.
10. In this
The Children of God
are manifest,
and The Children of The Devil:

"WHOSOEVER DOETH
NOT RIGHTEOUSNESS
IS NOT OF GOD,
NEITHER HE THAT
LOVETH NOT HIS BROTHER."

11. For this is The Message
that ye heard
From The Beginning,

"THAT WE SHOULD
LOVE ONE ANOTHER."

12. Not as Cain,
who was of That Wicked One,
and slew his brother.
And wherefore slew he him?
Because his own works
were Evil,
and his brother's Righteous.
13. Marvel not, my Brethren,
if the World hate you.
14. We know that we
have passed from Death unto Life,
because we love The Brethren.
He that loveth not his Brother
abideth in Death.
15. Whosoever hateth his Brother
is a Murderer:
and ye know that no Murderer
hath Eternal Life abiding in him.
16. Hereby perceive we
The Love of God,
because he laid down
his life for us:
and we ought to lay down
our lives for the Brethren.
17. But whoso hath
this World's good,
and seeth his brother
have need,
and shutteth up
his Bowels (of Compassion)
from him,
how dwelleth
The Love of God
in him?
18. My Little Children,
let us not love in Word,
neither in Tongue;
but in Deed and in Truth.

ONE OF THE DESPICABLE TRICKS OUTLAWED BY MOSES WAS "CURSING THE DEAF:" THAT WOULD BE GETTING PEOPLE TO AGREE TO THEIR OWN CONDEMNATION BY NOT TELLING THEM WHAT YOU ARE REALLY TALKING ABOUT.

The World's Greatest Good is THE LAW OF MOSES, and THE GOSPEL OF LORD YESHUA- and the Disciples had heartlessly withheld both from the Church, despite seeing them die, for lack of that essential Knowledge.

It was expected of Disciples that they create their own Doctrines, so no one cared that the Apostles deviated from Lord Yeshua's TRUE GOSPEL.

That is to say, those who objected were turned over to the SANHEDRIN for execution- beginning with STEPHEN- who was a threat to the "Apostles" supremacy.

Out of thousands of Christian Brethren at YASHARAYLIM, not one went to Stephen's rescue, or died with him.

How do you think that happens?

He was clearly betrayed.

.   MATTHEW 24:14.

14. "And This Gospel
of The Kingdom
shall be preached
in all the World
for a Witness unto all Nations;
and then shall The End come."

.    MATTHEW 24:35.

35. "Heaven and Earth
shall pass away,
but my Words
shall not pass away."

.    MATTHEW 28:16-20.

16. Then the Eleven Disciples
went away into Galilee,
into a mountain where
Jesus had appointed them.
17. And when they saw him,
they worshipped him:
but some doubted.
18. And Jesus came
and Spake unto them,
Saying,

"All Power is given unto me
in Heaven and in Earth.
19. "Go ye therefore,
and Teach all Nations,
baptizing them in
The Name of the Father,
and of The Son,
and of The Holy Ghost:
20. "Teaching them to observe
all things whatsoever
I have Commanded you:
and, lo,
I am with you alway,
even unto
The End of The World."
Amen.

CHRISTIANS PRACTICING THE TRUE GOSPEL HAVE THE POWER TO STOP AND REVERSE ALL SATANIC INFLUENCE AND DAMAGE.

We can STOP TIME Itself, by achieving TOTAL UNDERSTANDING in our PRAYERS and MEDITATIONS. Everything that stops when we do this is under our control when Time restarts.

The Disciples could have done this, in the 1^st Century, and having OVERCOME THE WORLD, brought back Lord Yeshua in a few decades- if even that.

It was only when PAUL got himself and CEPHAS martryed in 64AD, that THE GOSPEL CRUMBS were finally released.

sonmvayina:
I created this thread for me and MaxInDHouse to thrash a very important argument. Anybody who cares to join can do so, but we must stay on topic. Only intelligent distraction will be entertained.

When did Satan get rulership of earth. ?
Who is Satan by the way. ?
Who is the devil ?
What is the extent of his power..
This questions forms the bulk of the Christian religion.
But who are they?
In my opinion, Satan simply means "adversary" anybody or anyone can be an adversary to any one. There are different instances it was used in the Jewish scriptures. I think to understand a wordi in the Bible, we have to go to when it was first used. Satan was first used in the story or Balam and Barak. Here it denotes an obstacle. The next time it will be used again is in the story of job. Here we learn that he was part of the sons of God, and was under the control and power of God and does only what God tells him to do. This Satan has no will outside of the will of God.
The scriptures clearly state that the earth belongs to God and the fullness thereof. That is why I wanted to know when Satan God the rulership of earth and when did he become a dual opposite of God?

Devil on the other hand is a creation of the catholic church and the most important in their religion.

So MaxInDHouse over to you..

To me, this question is nursery school question. Satan became the god of this present world when Adam sinned against God. He through the wife obeyed Satan. And the scripture says;

Romans 6:16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?

He became the servant of Satan by obeying his lies. Instead of having dominion over the earth, Satan got the right legally from him.

Ken4Christ:


To me, this question is nursery school question. Satan became the god of this present world when Adam sinned against God. He through the wife obeyed Satan. And the scripture says;

Romans 6:16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?

He became the servant of Satan by obeying his lies. Instead of having dominion over the earth, Satan got the right legally from him.

But he earth belongs to God and the fullness thereof. This statement was made after your so called Genesis story..
So try again Mr man...

sonmvayina:


But he earth belongs to God and the fullness thereof. This statement was made after your so called Genesis story..
So try again Mr man...

It seems you are dull of understanding. It doesn't matter when the statement was made. But I am telling you how Satan became the god of this world.

Yes, the whole earth belongs to God but God is not the one ruling this present earth. Satan is the one ruling this present earth. This is why things are so messed up. But if you are in Christ, you are not under his authority.

MaxInDHouse:

Ọ̀DẸ̀ do you think i have your time?

false jw mad max, but you are replying to me
aren't you.
u so duh

MaxInDHouse:
Have anyone ever opened a thread in your name?

wow, you are so important, a thread in your own name, such a queer

MaxInDHouse:
Well you're just a stupid idiot so there's no need wasting my time on you!

no don't waste your time on me, funny
what dum dum's you false jw's are

Ken4Christ:


It seems you are dull of understanding. It doesn't matter when the statement was made. But I am telling you how Satan became the god of this world.

Yes, the whole earth belongs to God but God is not the one ruling this present earth. Satan is the one ruling this present earth. This is why things are so messed up. But if you are in Christ, you are not under his authority.

How did Satan get the rulership?

MISHIGAS!

sonmvayina:

I created this thread for me and MaxInDHouse to thrash a very important argument. Anybody who cares to join can do so, but we must stay on topic. Only intelligent distraction will be entertained.

. PROVERBS 1:7.

7. The Fear of The LORD
is The Beginning of Knowledge:
but Fools despise
Wisdom and Instruction.

I ANSWER QUESTIONS WITH A VIEW TO ENDING ALL FUTURE QUESTIONING, BUT NO ONE HERE ACTUALLY WANTS TO KNOW THE TRUE ANSWERS.

sonmvayina:

When did Satan get rulership of earth. ?

. JOHN 8:30-36.

30. As he Spake these Words,
many believed on him.
31. Then Said Jesus
to those Jews
which believed on him,

"If ye continue in my Word,
then are ye my Disciples indeed;
32. "And ye shall know
The Truth,
and The Truth
shall make you Free."

33. They answered him,

"We be Abraham's seed,
and were never in bondage
to any man:
how sayest thou,

'YE SHALL BE MADE FREE?'

34. Jesus Answered them,

"Verily, verily, I Say unto you,

'WHOSOEVER COMMITTETH SIN
IS THE SERVANT OF SIN.'

35. "And the Servant
abideth not in the House
for ever:
but the Son abideth ever.
36. "If the Son therefore
shall make you Free,
ye shall be Free indeed."

SATAN GOT RULERSHIP OF THE EARTH, WHEN HE LEAD MANKIND INTO SLAVERY TO HIM.[/i]

sonmvayina:

Who is Satan by the way. ?

. REVELATION 12:9.

9. And the great Dragon
was cast out,
That Old Serpent,
called the Devil,
and Satan,
which deceiveth the whole World:
he was cast out into the Earth,
and his Angels
were cast out with him.

THE SERPENT OF EDEN, SATAN, AND THE DEVIL [i]ARE THE SAME BEING.

sonmvayina:

Who is the devil ?

SEE ABOVE.

sonmvayina:

What is the extent of his power..

. GENESIS 1:26-28.

26. And God Said,

"Let us make Man in Our Image,
after Our Likeness:
and let them have Dominion
over the Fish of the Sea,
and over the Fowl of the Air,
and over the Cattle,
and over all the Earth,
and over every Creeping Thing
that Creepeth upon the Earth.
27. So God created Man
in His Own Image,
in The Image of God
created He him;
male and female created He them.
28. And God Blessed them,
and God said unto them,

"Be fruitful, and multiply,
and replenish the Earth,
and subdue It:
and have Dominion
over the Fish of the Sea,
and over the Fowl of the Air,
and over every Living Thing
that moveth upon the Earth.”

HE HAS POWER TO CONTROL THE EARTH AND ITS CREATURES, FROM HAVING MASTERY OVER HUMAN SINNERS.

This includes control over the Elements, Disease Organisms, and anything "Natural" that can harm or kill.

. THE TEN TALENTS OF POWER. (Matt. 25)

(1) TOTAL RECALL.
(2) EXTRASENSORY PERCEPTION.
(3) TELEKINESIS.
(4) TELEPORTATION.
(5) TRANSLATION.
(6-10) EVERLASTING LIFE.

Satan has the Power to remove Life Energy not used to keep The Commandments of God.

This reduces the Sinners' Consciousness to less than 10% and Life Energies to a 1% minimum subsistence level.

sonmvayina:

This questions forms the bulk of the Christian religion.
But who are they?
In my opinion, Satan simply means "adversary" anybody or anyone can be an adversary to any one. There are different instances it was used in the Jewish scriptures. I think to understand a wordi in the Bible, we have to go to when it was first used. Satan was first used in the story or Balam and Barak. Here it denotes an obstacle. The next time it will be used again is in the story of job. Here we learn that he was part of the sons of God, and was under the control and power of God and does only what God tells him to do. This Satan has no will outside of the will of God.
The scriptures clearly state that the earth belongs to God and the fullness thereof. That is why I wanted to know when Satan God the rulership of earth and when did he become a dual opposite of God?

JUST BECAUSE SATAN MEANS "ADVERSARY," THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT EVERY TIME "ADVERSARY" IS MENTIONED THAT IT MEANS THE DEVIL. ARROGANT UNBELIEVERS READ A CONCORDANCE, AND THEN THINK THEY KNOW AS MUCH AS PROFESSIONAL TRANSLATORS.

"Satan" is different from "HaSatan."

sonmvayina:

Devil on the other hand is a creation of the catholic church and the most important in their religion.

So MaxInDHouse over to you..

HOW DO YOU KNOW THE CATHOLIC CHURCH CREATED THE DEVIL? ARE YOU ONE OF THOSE FOOLS WHO THINK CHRISTIANITY WAS INVENTED BY THE ROMAN EMPEROR CONSTANTINE?

budaatum:


Forgive buda please, but the above is untrue! Adam was not given "authority to rule over the earth and to subdue it".

. u]GENESIS 1:26-31.[/u]

26. And God Said,

"Let Us make Man in Our Image,
after Our Likeness:
and let them have Dominion
over the Fish of the Sea,
and over the Fowl of the Air,
and over the Cattle,
and over all the Earth,
and over every creeping thing
that creepeth upon the Earth."

27. So God created Man
in His Own Image,
in The Image of God created He him;
male and female created He them.
28. And God Blessed them,
and God Said unto them,

"Be fruitful, and multiply,
and replenish the Earth,
and subdue It:
and have Dominion
over the Fish of the Sea,
and over the Fowl of the Air,
and over every Living Thing
that moveth upon the Earth."

29. And God Said,

"Behold, I have given you
every herb bearing seed,
which is upon
the Face of all the Earth,
and every tree,
in the which is the fruit
of a tree yielding seed;
to you it shall be for meat.
30. And to every Beast of the Earth,
and to every Fowl of the Air,
and to every thing
that creepeth upon the Earth,
wherein there is life,
I have given
every green herb for meat:"

and it was so.
31. And God saw every thing
that He had made,
and, behold, it was Very Good.
And the evening and the morning
were the sixth day.

. GENESIS 2:5-9.

5. And every Plant of the Field
before it was in the Earth,
and every Herb of the Field
before it grew:
for The LORD God
had not caused it to rain
upon the Earth,
and there was not a man
to till the ground.
6. But there went up
a mist from the Earth,
and watered the whole face
of the ground.
7. And The LORD God
formed Man of
the dust of the ground,
and breathed into his nostrils
The Breath of Life;
and man became
a Living Soul.
8. And the LORD God
planted a Garden
Eastward in Eden;
and there He put the Man
whom He had formed.
9. And out of the ground
made The LORD God
to grow every tree
that is pleasant to the sight,
and good for food;
The Tree of Life also
in the midst of the garden,
and The Tree of Knowledge
of Good and Evil.

IGNORANCE IS A KILLING DISEASE.

budaatum:

Adam was a gardener in Eden, which was a tiny portion of the earth that was to be ruled over and subdued by the more capable creation in Genesis 1 who was made in God's image and definitely not from dust.

. GENESIS 3:20.

20. And Adam called
his wife's name "Eve;"
because she was the mother
of all living.

YOU ARE CLEARLY ONE OF THOSE LACKWITS WHO THINKS THAT THE CREATION OF ADAM AND EVE IN EDEN WAS A SEPARATE CREATION FROM THE CREATION OF MAN DESCRIBED IN GENESIS 1: THERE ARE NO OTHER HUMANS CREATED BEFORE NOR AFTER ADAM AND EVE.

budaatum:

According to the book, at least, and again, forgive buda.

. DEUTERONOMY 12:32.

32. What thing soever I Command you,
observe to do it:
thou shalt not add thereto,
nor diminish from it.

THE SCRIPTURES ARE THE ONLY USEFUL LIGHT THERE IS: TO DEVIATE FROM THEM IS TO PLUNGE INTO VAIN DARKNESS.

budaatum:


Why would anyone with a brain believe the Bible instead of understand it?

. JOB 28:28.

28. "And unto Man He Said,

'BEHOLD,
THE FEAR OF THE LORD,
THAT IS WISDOM;
AND TO DEPART FROM EVIL,
IS UNDERSTANDING.' "

That is because only God has our unreservedly best interests at heart: the average Y'sraelite was supposed to have begun to learn The Way of God from age 13.

Therefore, you have to believe in things the Scriptures speak of that are above your level of understanding.

. PSALM 111:10.

10. The Fear of The LORD
is The Beginning of Wisdom:
a Good Understanding
have all they
that do His Commandments:
His Praise endureth for ever.

THE ONLY WAY TO UNDERSTAND THE SCRIPTURES IS BY OBEYING THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD.

budaatum:

Adam believing he would die if he ate the fruit of the tree of knowledge is what kept him naked and ignorant and enslaved.

. DEUTERONOMY 30:19-20.

19. I call Heaven and Earth
to record this day against you,
that I have set before you
Life and Death,
Blessing and Cursing:
therefore CHOOSE LIFE,

That both thou
and thy seed may live:

20. That thou mayest
love The LORD thy God,

And that thou mayest
obey His Voice,

and that thou mayest
cleave unto Him:

for He is thy Life,
and the Length of thy days:

That thou mayest dwell
in the land
which The LORD Sware
unto thy fathers,
to Abraham, to Isaac,
and to Jacob,
to give them.

. PROVERBS 9:10.

10. The Fear of The LORD
is The Beginning of Wisdom:
and The Knowledge of
The Holy is Understanding.

.   ISAIAH 55:6-9.

6. Seek ye The LORD,
while He may be found,
call ye upon Him
while He is near.
7. Let the Wicked
forsake his Way,
and the Unrighteous Man
his Thoughts:
and let him return
unto The LORD,
and He will have Mercy
upon him;
and to our God,
for He will abundantly pardon.

8. "FOR MY THOUGHTS
(ARE) NOT YOUR THOUGHTS,
NEITHER ARE YOUR WAYS
MY WAYS," saith The LORD.
9. "FOR (AS) THE HEAVENS
ARE HIGHER
THAN THE EARTH,
SO ARE MY WAYS
HIGHER THAN YOUR WAYS,
AND MY THOUGHTS
THAN YOUR THOUGHTS.' "

. 2^nd CHRONICLES 16:9.

9. "For The Eyes of The LORD
run to and fro throughout
the whole Earth,
to show Himself strong
on behalf of those
whose heart
is perfect toward Him.
Herein thou hast done foolishly:
therefore from henceforth
thou shalt have wars.”

. AMOS 3:3.

3. Can two walk together,
except they be agreed?"

. ZECHARIAH 4:10.

10. For who hath despised
The Day of Small Things?
For they shall rejoice,
and shall see the plummet
in the hand of Zerubbabel
with those seven;
they are The Eyes of The LORD,
Which run to and fro
through the whole Earth.

THERE ARE TWO TYPES OF LIFE: THE ONE LEVEL OF EARTHLY LIFE AND THE SEVEN LEVELS OF HEAVENLY LIFE.

Those who keep God's Commandments with Understanding have HEAVENLY LIFE, on a par with GOD- The Life God intended for Adam and Eve to have.

Such a being has no need of clothes, neither can experience suffering.

budaatum:

Thank God Eve used her senses to free them from slavery.

.   GENESIS 3:1-19.

NOW the Serpent
was more subtil
than any Beast
of the Field which
The LORD God
had made.
And he said unto
the Woman,

"Yea, hath God Said,

'YE SHALL NOT EAT
OF EVERY TREE
OF THE GARDEN?' "

2. And the Woman said
unto the Serpent,

"We may eat
of the Fruit of the Trees
of the Garden:
3. But of the Fruit of the Tree
which is in the midst
of the Garden,
God hath Said,

'YE SHALL NOT EAT OF IT,
NEITHER SHALL YE TOUCH IT,
LEST YE DIE.' "

4. And the Serpent said
unto the Woman,

"Ye shall not surely die:
5. "For God doth know
that in the day
ye eat thereof,
then your eyes
shall be opened,
and ye shall be as gods,
knowing Good and Evil."

6. And when the Woman saw
that the Tree was good for food,
and that it was pleasant to the eyes,
and a Tree to be desired
to make one wise,
she took of the Fruit thereof,
and did eat,
and gave also
unto her husband with her;
and he did eat.
7. And the eyes of them both
were opened,
and they knew
that they were naked;
and they sewed fig leaves together,
and made themselves aprons.
8. And they heard
The Voice of The LORD God
Walking in the Garden
in the cool of the day:
and Adam and his wife
hid themselves
from The Presence
of The LORD God
amongst the Trees
of the Garden. that
9. And The LORD God
Called unto Adam,
and Said unto him,

"Where art thou?"

10. And he said,

"I heard Thy Voice in the Garden,
and I was afraid,
because I was naked;
and I hid myself."

11. And He Said,

"Who told thee
that thou wast naked?
Hast thou eaten of the tree,
whereof I Commanded thee
that thou shouldest not eat?"

12. And the Man said,

"The Woman whom Thou
gavest to be with me,
she gave me of the tree,
and I did eat."

13. And The LORD God
Said unto the Woman,

"What is this
that thou hast done?"

And the Woman said,

"The Serpent beguiled me,
and I did eat."

14. And The LORD God Said
unto the Serpent,

"Because thou
hast done this,
thou art Cursed
above all Cattle,
and above every
Beast of the Field;
upon thy belly shalt thou go,
and dust shalt thou eat
all the days of thy life:
15. "And I will put Enmity
between thee and the Woman,
and between thy seed
and her seed;
it shall bruise thy head,
and thou shalt bruise his heel."

16. Unto the Woman He Said,

"I will greatly multiply thy sorrow
and thy conception;
in sorrow thou shalt
bring forth children;
and thy desire shall be
to thy Husband,
and he shall rule over thee."

17. And unto Adam He Said,

"Because thou hast hearkened
unto the voice of thy wife,
and hast eaten of the Tree,
of which I Commanded thee,
Saying,

'THOU SHALT NOT
EAT OF IT:'

Cursed is the Ground for thy sake;
in sorrow shalt thou eat of It
all the days of thy life;
18. "Thorns also and thistles
shall it bring forth to thee;
and thou shalt eat
The Herb of the Field;
19. "In the sweat of thy face
shalt thou eat bread,
till thou return unto the Ground;
for out of it wast thou taken:
for dust thou art,
and unto dust shalt thou return."

WHEN TWO BEINGS OPERATE TOGETHER IN A RELATIONSHIP, THEIR SPIRITUAL ENERGY VIBRATIONS CREATE A HARMONIC ENTITY: WHOEVER CONTROLS THAT ENTITY CONTROLS THE RELATIONSHIP AND EVERYTHING THE BEINGS OWN.

This was The Serpent's motive in getting Adam and Eve to disobey God.

He did not do it to benefit them.

He took away Adam and Eve's Freedom.

The Devil is who made them Slaves.

Only fools praise Mankind's OPPRESSOR!

Ubanieke:

There is likely no difference between good and evil when it comes to Biblical God and Satan.

. b]JOHN 10:1-10.[/b]

"Verily, verily,
I Say unto you,

'HE THAT ENTERETH NOT
BY THE DOOR
INTO THE SHEEPFOLD,
BUT CLIMBETH UP
SOME OTHER WAY,
THE SAME IS A THIEF
AND A ROBBER.'

2. "But he that entereth in by The Door
is The Shepherd of The Sheep.
3. "To him the porter openeth;
and the Sheep hear his voice:
and he calleth his own sheep
by name,
and leadeth them out.
4. "And when he putteth forth
his own sheep,
he goeth before them,
and the sheep follow him:
for they know his voice.
5. And a stranger
will they not follow,
but will flee from him:
for they know not
the voice of strangers."


7. Then Said Jesus
unto them again,

"Verily, verily,
I Say unto you,

'I AM THE DOOR
OF THE SHEEP.'

8. "All that ever came before me
are Thieves and Robbers:
but the sheep did not hear them.

10. "The Thief cometh not,
but for to steal,
and to kill,
and to destroy:
I am come
that they might have Life,
and that they might have It
more abundantly."

[TRUNCATED TO FIT!]

A MORE STUPID THING HAS NEVER BEEN SPOKEN.

Ken4Christ:


To me, this question is nursery school question. Satan became the god of this present world when Adam sinned against God. He through the wife obeyed Satan. And the scripture says;

Romans 6:16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?

He became the servant of Satan by obeying his lies. Instead of having dominion over the earth, Satan got the right legally from him.

SATAN HAS DOMINION OVER THE EARTH AND ITS CREATURES, ONLY IN RELATION TO SINNERS.

If God can be introduced into a Relationship, Satan loses all Power in that Relationship.

sonmvayina:


But he earth belongs to God and the fullness thereof. This statement was made after your so called Genesis story..
So try again Mr man...

THAT GOD OWNS THE EARTH IS MEANINGLESS, WHEN HIS VIBRATIONS ARE EXCLUDED FROM AN EARTHLY SITUATION.

Those who serve Satan experience his rulership; those who serve God experience HIS Rulership.

Ken4Christ:


It seems you are dull of understanding. It doesn't matter when the statement was made. But I am telling you how Satan became the god of this world.

DAWID WAS LAVISH IN HIS PRAISES OF GOD- BUT DID NOT BACK UP ALL HIS FLATTERY WITH FACTS, ILLUSTRATING THAT WHAT HE SAID WAS TRUE.

Ken4Christ:

Yes, the whole earth belongs to God but God is not the one ruling this present earth. Satan is the one ruling this present earth. This is why things are so messed up. But if you are in Christ, you are not under his authority.

FANCIFUL TERMS LIKE "IN CHRIST" ARE MERE USELESS RELIGIOSITY, WHEN THEY ARE NOT DEFINED.

.. 1^st JOHN 2:3-6.

3. And hereby we do know
that we know him,
if we keep his Commandments.
4. He that saith,

"I KNOW HIM,"

and keepeth not his Commandments,
is a liar,
and The Truth is not in him.
5. But whoso keepeth his Word,
in him verily is
The Love of God perfected:
hereby know we
that we are in him.
6. He that saith
he abideth in him
ought himself also
so to walk,
even as he walked.

THOSE WHO TELL MEN THAT LORD YESHUA IS THE CHRIST ARE ALWAYS LYING.

They don't believe that.

They NEVER define "CHRIST" as "HE-WHO-MUST-BE-OBEYED-FIRST-AND-FOREMOST."

sonmvayina:


How did Satan get the rulership?

WHY HAVE YOU, EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU, ALL IGNORED MY PERFECT EXPLANATION?

@oaroyole

You really need psychiatrist evaluation..

You are not well at all,

Check yourself into an asylum. I will pay for it..

oaroloye:
WHY HAVE YOU, EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU, ALL IGNORED MY PERFECT EXPLANATION?

I’m pretty sure I’m not wrong when I say, NO ONE READS YOUR SHIT!!!!!

Your presentation is mishigas, your claims are mishigas. You are the personification of mishigas and that’s saying something given the amount of mishigas on nairaland.

KnownUnknown:


I’m pretty sure I’m not wrong when I say, NO ONE READS YOUR SHIT!!!!!

Your presentation is mishigas, your claims are mishigas. You are the personification of mishigas and that’s saying something given the amount of mishigas on nairaland.

Here, there...you forgot to bold it..

sonmvayina:


How did Satan get the rulership?

He got it when Adam disobeyed God's commitment not to eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

Ken4Christ:


He got it when Adam disobeyed God's commitment not to eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

Ok...is this your opinion or where is it stated in the old testament.

sonmvayina:


Ok...is this your opinion or where is it stated in the old testament.

It was implied in Satan's conversation with Jesus when he was tempted. Satan said;

Luke 4:6 And the devil said unto him, All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: FOR THAT IS DELIVERED UNTO ME; and to whomsoever I will I give it.

So, Satan told Jesus that this present earth was delivered unto him and Jesus didn't contest it.

Rather, some statements Jesus made affirmed this truth. Three times during Jesus teachings, he called Satan the prince of this world;

John 12:31 Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the PRINCE OF THIS WORLD be cast out.

John 14:30 Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the PRINCE OF THIS WORLD cometh, and hath nothing in me.

John 16:11 Of judgment, because the PRINCE OF THIS WORLD is judged.

Apostle Paul called him the god of this world;

2nd Corinthians 4:4 In whom the GOD OF THIS WORLD hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

The principle that played out in the sin of Adam was stated in Romans 6:16 which reads;

Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, HIS SERVANTS YE ARE TO WHOM YE OBEY; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?

Adam was originally the god of this earth by virtue of the authority God gave him to have dominion over all the things he created. But when he obeyed Satan, he became Satan's servant and lost his dominion to Satan.

This is how Satan became the god of this present world. And he will continue to be the god of this world until he is dethroned when Jesus comes back.

He has been defeated but he is not yet dethroned.

Though Satan is still the present god of this world, he is not a god to those who are saved and washed by the blood of Jesus. This is why the scripture says that though we are IN THE WORLD, we are not OF THE WORLD.

Ken4Christ:


It was implied in Satan's conversation with Jesus when he was tempted. Satan said;

Luke 4:6 And the devil said unto him, All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: FOR THAT IS DELIVERED UNTO ME; and to whomsoever I will I give it.

So, Satan told Jesus that this present earth was delivered unto him and Jesus didn't contest it.

Rather, some statements Jesus made affirmed this truth. Three times during Jesus teachings, he called Satan the prince of this world;

John 12:31 Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the PRINCE OF THIS WORLD be cast out.

John 14:30 Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the PRINCE OF THIS WORLD cometh, and hath nothing in me.

John 16:11 Of judgment, because the PRINCE OF THIS WORLD is judged.

Apostle Paul called him the god of this world;

2nd Corinthians 4:4 In whom the GOD OF THIS WORLD hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

The principle that played out in the sin of Adam was stated in Romans 6:16 which reads;

Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, HIS SERVANTS YE ARE TO WHOM YE OBEY; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?

Adam was originally the god of this earth by virtue of the authority God gave him to have dominion over all the things he created. But when he obeyed Satan, he became Satan's servant and lost his dominion to Satan.

This is how Satan became the god of this present world. And he will continue to be the god of this world until he is dethroned when Jesus comes back.

He has been defeated but he is not yet dethroned.

Though Satan is still the present god of this world, he is not a god to those who are saved and washed by the blood of Jesus. This is why the scripture says that though we are IN THE WORLD, we are not OF THE WORLD.

That is what I am saying..

It is a Christian ideology.

There is no basis for it in the old testament..

The old testament presents Satan as working for God not against God. He only does what God ask him to do and he needs an expressed permission from God ...

The new testament makes Satan equal and opposite to God which I find insulting ..

sonmvayina:


That is what I am saying..

It is a Christian ideology.

There is no basis for it in the old testament..

The old testament presents Satan as working for God not against God. He only does what God ask him to do and he needs an expressed permission from God ...

The new testament makes Satan equal and opposite to God which I find insulting ..

You are very wrong. The Old Testament saints had a limited knowledge of God and they also did not know much about the devil. So, some of the things they gives a wrong impression about how he operates.

The scripture says that the Old testament is a type and shadow of the new testament. You can fully describe an object by looking at the shadow.

The reality has come who is Jesus. He is the truth. He gave a clearer picture of who Satan is.

When he healed a woman that had infirmity, he said it was Satan who bound her. So, if they are working together, there will be no need to heal her.

He calls Satan the thief who comes to steal, kill and destroy.

So, if you want to get the truth about any subject, look at the reality and not the shadow.

The teachings of Jesus and his Apostles unveils the realities of this world and the things therein to us.

Ken4Christ:


You are very wrong. The Old Testament saints had a limited knowledge of God and they also did not know much about the devil. So, some of the things they gives a wrong impression about how he operates.

The scripture says that the Old testament is a type and shadow of the new testament. You can fully describe an object by looking at the shadow.

The reality has come who is Jesus. He is the truth. He gave a clearer picture of who Satan is.

When he healed a woman that had infirmity, he said it was Satan who bound her. So, if they are working together, there will be no need to heal her.

He calls Satan the thief who comes to steal, kill and destroy.

So, if you want to get the truth about any subject, look at the reality and not the shadow.

The teachings of Jesus and his Apostles unveils the realities of this world and the things therein to us.

There is no such thing like devil. Whatever happens , happened because it is the will of God. If God says A nobody can change it to B and if God says B nobody can change it to A...

Devil is a Christian creation....because that is the only way they can see jesus to the public..

sonmvayina:


There is no such thing like devil. Whatever happens , happened because it is the will of God. If God says A nobody can change it to B and if God says B nobody can change it to A...

Devil is a Christian creation....because that is the only way they can see jesus to the public..

But it's in the Bible. Your problem is unbelief.

Ken4Christ:


But it's in the Bible. Your problem is unbelief.

It is not in the Bible..it is a Roman Catholic creation.
Everything that happens whether good or evil happens because it is the will of God...Isaiah 47:7

sonmvayina:


It is not in the Bible..it is a Roman Catholic creation.
Everything that happens whether good or evil happens because it is the will of God...Isaiah 47:7

Try and upgrade. Jesus is the truth. Go through his teachings and that of his Apostles. And you will be well enlightened.

Ken4Christ:


Try and upgrade. Jesus is the truth. Go through his teachings and that of his Apostles. And you will be well enlightened.

The funny truth is that Jesus never existed. He is just a made up character by the Roman Catholic church to deceive people like you. ..all we need is already in the Torah.. God did not miss anything out to warrant him impregnating another man's wife or having a son in like manner..