Vincyman:
I was thought in school that she existed, so oga pack aside with ur point despite I'm not even a Hausa

LogicBomb8:

How are u sure about the authenticity of the tutor who taught your teacher that taught you

OloYeOfEgbE:
Sorry the thing too long...

If she wasn't Hausa....Uhmmm are you saying she is IGBO.?

As the oldest tribe,you feel me... that thing too long and night don come

IbileIfe:
TWENTY REASONS WHY QUEEN AMINA OF ZARIA NEVER EXISTED

By Ndagi Abdullahi

1 – The earliest Zaria traditions never mentioned Queen Amina of Zaria.
2 – The people of Zaria first heard of Queen Amina of Zaria from two non-Zaria sources, namely, the Kano Chronicle from Kano & the Infakul Maisuri from Sokoto

3 – The utterly Islamic name Amina was not a Hausa name in the 16th century that Queen Amina was supposed to have lived
4 – The Queen Amina of Zaria described by the Kano Chronicle is completely different from the Queen Amina of Zaria described by the Infakul Maisuri.
5 – Apart from the Kano Chronicle and the Infakul Maisuri no any other primary source document in history ever mentioned Queen Amina of Zaria.

6 – No contemporary source, written or oral, ever mentioned Queen Amina of Zaria.
7 – None of the pre-Colonial European explorers, including Mungo Park, Captain Hugh Clapperton, the Lander brothers, Dr. Heinrich Barth, Dr. William Baikie, etc., heard about Queen Amina of Zaria.
8 – Queen Amina of Zaria was completely unknown to native griots until European Colonial historians popularized her at the beginning of the 20th century.

9 – The Northern Nigerian story of Queen Amina of Zaria is evidently a rehashing of the Middle Belt story of Kisra.
10 – The Original Zaria Province or State is the ancient Nupe Province of Old Gbara formerly known as Gunguma or Kangoma and now known as Wushishi or Dunguru (Zungeru).
11 – Al Sadi’s ‘Tarikh Al Sudan' of 1655 and al-Mukhtar’s Tarikh Al Fattash of the 1660s both are completely unaware of the existence of a Queen Amina of Zaria who was supposed to have been born in 1533.
12 – The earliest of the Arab historians to write on West Africa, including the celebrated El Bakri, wrote that today’s Nigerian Middle Belt was known as Mina or Al Mina.
13 – Gigantic idols and massifs bearing the name the ‘Goddess of Mina’ or the ‘Goddess of Al Mina' replete the plains of prehistoric Central Nigeria centuries before the supposed birth of Queen Amina of Zaria in 1533.
14 – Lady Flora Shaw Lugard wrote that the people of the Nigerian Middle Belt used to worship the idol of a fertility Goddess referred to as the ‘Queen of Al Mina’.

15 – It was Hausa city chroniclers who unprofessionally transcribed the ‘Queen of Al Mina' as ‘Queen Amina’.
16 – The Hausa city chroniclers then hijacked the well-known history of Kisra the Nupe King of Zozo and rehashed it as the story of Amina the ‘Queen of Zazzau’.
17 - The official royal history of early Zaria written by professional palace historians and titled the ‘Abuja Chronicle’, published in 1952, tellingly did not include Queen Amina on the Zaria king-list.
18 – The detailed biography of Queen Amina of Zaria we see today was fabricated by the playwright Umar Ahmed in 1954 in his drama play titled ‘Amina Sarauniyar Zazzau’.
19 – It was unsuspecting scholars, including the Colonial historian S.J. Hogben and the post-Independence academician Professor Abubakar Sa’ad who unwittingly gave scholarly credence to the Queen Amina of Zaria myth.
20 – World renowned historians, including Professor Abdullahi Smith and Professor Murray Last, have conclusively demonstrated that Queen Amina of Zaria never existed.

OloYeOfEgbE:
Sorry the thing too long...

If she wasn't Hausa....Uhmmm are you saying she is IGBO.?

As the oldest tribe,you feel me... that thing too long and night don come

IbileIfe:
TWENTY REASONS WHY QUEEN AMINA OF ZARIA NEVER EXISTED

By Ndagi Abdullahi

1 – The earliest Zaria traditions never mentioned Queen Amina of Zaria.
2 – The people of Zaria first heard of Queen Amina of Zaria from two non-Zaria sources, namely, the Kano Chronicle from Kano & the Infakul Maisuri from Sokoto

3 – The utterly Islamic name Amina was not a Hausa name in the 16th century that Queen Amina was supposed to have lived
4 – The Queen Amina of Zaria described by the Kano Chronicle is completely different from the Queen Amina of Zaria described by the Infakul Maisuri.
5 – Apart from the Kano Chronicle and the Infakul Maisuri no any other primary source document in history ever mentioned Queen Amina of Zaria.

6 – No contemporary source, written or oral, ever mentioned Queen Amina of Zaria.
7 – None of the pre-Colonial European explorers, including Mungo Park, Captain Hugh Clapperton, the Lander brothers, Dr. Heinrich Barth, Dr. William Baikie, etc., heard about Queen Amina of Zaria.
8 – Queen Amina of Zaria was completely unknown to native griots until European Colonial historians popularized her at the beginning of the 20th century.

9 – The Northern Nigerian story of Queen Amina of Zaria is evidently a rehashing of the Middle Belt story of Kisra.
10 – The Original Zaria Province or State is the ancient Nupe Province of Old Gbara formerly known as Gunguma or Kangoma and now known as Wushishi or Dunguru (Zungeru).
11 – Al Sadi’s ‘Tarikh Al Sudan' of 1655 and al-Mukhtar’s Tarikh Al Fattash of the 1660s both are completely unaware of the existence of a Queen Amina of Zaria who was supposed to have been born in 1533.
12 – The earliest of the Arab historians to write on West Africa, including the celebrated El Bakri, wrote that today’s Nigerian Middle Belt was known as Mina or Al Mina.
13 – Gigantic idols and massifs bearing the name the ‘Goddess of Mina’ or the ‘Goddess of Al Mina' replete the plains of prehistoric Central Nigeria centuries before the supposed birth of Queen Amina of Zaria in 1533.
14 – Lady Flora Shaw Lugard wrote that the people of the Nigerian Middle Belt used to worship the idol of a fertility Goddess referred to as the ‘Queen of Al Mina’.

15 – It was Hausa city chroniclers who unprofessionally transcribed the ‘Queen of Al Mina' as ‘Queen Amina’.
16 – The Hausa city chroniclers then hijacked the well-known history of Kisra the Nupe King of Zozo and rehashed it as the story of Amina the ‘Queen of Zazzau’.
17 - The official royal history of early Zaria written by professional palace historians and titled the ‘Abuja Chronicle’, published in 1952, tellingly did not include Queen Amina on the Zaria king-list.
18 – The detailed biography of Queen Amina of Zaria we see today was fabricated by the playwright Umar Ahmed in 1954 in his drama play titled ‘Amina Sarauniyar Zazzau’.
19 – It was unsuspecting scholars, including the Colonial historian S.J. Hogben and the post-Independence academician Professor Abubakar Sa’ad who unwittingly gave scholarly credence to the Queen Amina of Zaria myth.
20 – World renowned historians, including Professor Abdullahi Smith and Professor Murray Last, have conclusively demonstrated that Queen Amina of Zaria never existed.

gregyboy:



never said tribe it, she never existed

RedboneSmith:


The writer of the article (Ndagi Abdullahi) isn't Igbo. The OP who shared it here isn't Igbo. The word Igbo doesn't appear even once in the article.

But you don drag Igbo enter the discussion. This obsession is not healthy oh.

Vincyman:
I was thought in school that she existed, so oga pack aside with ur point despite I'm not even a Hausa

RedboneSmith:


Point 3 is factually incorrect. Islam penetrated Hausa land as early as the 14th century. And Hausa rulers with Islamic/Arabic names predate the 16th century, Mohammed Rumfa of Kano being a notable example.

Some of the other points are weak as well.

If we argue that Amina doesn't exist because there are no contemporary written records that mentioned her, then by the same token we can argue that most of the celebrated figures of Nigerian history before the coming of the Europeans didn't exist, since there are equally no contemporary documents mentioning them.

As usual Dr Ndagi Adullahi is writing with an agenda. He subtly sneaks in his pan-Nupe agenda in point 10. Those of us who have been following his harebrained writings know what he is up to.

gregyboy:



i believe this writeup with all sincerity not because am Hausa or an hater of them

but because you gave fact likewise i have given several fact that the benin and ife relationship
or oduduwa in beinn never existed but people keep promoting for tribal benefit... Good writeup am just going to put my own under

IbileIfe:
The best reply so far.

Nupe also claimed that Oduduwa originated from Nupe.

Magnoliaa:


So every tribes all originated from them now? Seem like a standard conspiracy theory.

IbileIfe:
TWENTY REASONS WHY QUEEN AMINA OF ZARIA NEVER EXISTED

By Ndagi Abdullahi

1 – The earliest Zaria traditions never mentioned Queen Amina of Zaria.
2 – The people of Zaria first heard of Queen Amina of Zaria from two non-Zaria sources, namely, the Kano Chronicle from Kano & the Infakul Maisuri from Sokoto

3 – The utterly Islamic name Amina was not a Hausa name in the 16th century that Queen Amina was supposed to have lived
4 – The Queen Amina of Zaria described by the Kano Chronicle is completely different from the Queen Amina of Zaria described by the Infakul Maisuri.
5 – Apart from the Kano Chronicle and the Infakul Maisuri no any other primary source document in history ever mentioned Queen Amina of Zaria.

6 – No contemporary source, written or oral, ever mentioned Queen Amina of Zaria.
7 – None of the pre-Colonial European explorers, including Mungo Park, Captain Hugh Clapperton, the Lander brothers, Dr. Heinrich Barth, Dr. William Baikie, etc., heard about Queen Amina of Zaria.
8 – Queen Amina of Zaria was completely unknown to native griots until European Colonial historians popularized her at the beginning of the 20th century.

9 – The Northern Nigerian story of Queen Amina of Zaria is evidently a rehashing of the Middle Belt story of Kisra.
10 – The Original Zaria Province or State is the ancient Nupe Province of Old Gbara formerly known as Gunguma or Kangoma and now known as Wushishi or Dunguru (Zungeru).
11 – Al Sadi’s ‘Tarikh Al Sudan' of 1655 and al-Mukhtar’s Tarikh Al Fattash of the 1660s both are completely unaware of the existence of a Queen Amina of Zaria who was supposed to have been born in 1533.
12 – The earliest of the Arab historians to write on West Africa, including the celebrated El Bakri, wrote that today’s Nigerian Middle Belt was known as Mina or Al Mina.
13 – Gigantic idols and massifs bearing the name the ‘Goddess of Mina’ or the ‘Goddess of Al Mina' replete the plains of prehistoric Central Nigeria centuries before the supposed birth of Queen Amina of Zaria in 1533.
14 – Lady Flora Shaw Lugard wrote that the people of the Nigerian Middle Belt used to worship the idol of a fertility Goddess referred to as the ‘Queen of Al Mina’.

15 – It was Hausa city chroniclers who unprofessionally transcribed the ‘Queen of Al Mina' as ‘Queen Amina’.
16 – The Hausa city chroniclers then hijacked the well-known history of Kisra the Nupe King of Zozo and rehashed it as the story of Amina the ‘Queen of Zazzau’.
17 - The official royal history of early Zaria written by professional palace historians and titled the ‘Abuja Chronicle’, published in 1952, tellingly did not include Queen Amina on the Zaria king-list.
18 – The detailed biography of Queen Amina of Zaria we see today was fabricated by the playwright Umar Ahmed in 1954 in his drama play titled ‘Amina Sarauniyar Zazzau’.
19 – It was unsuspecting scholars, including the Colonial historian S.J. Hogben and the post-Independence academician Professor Abubakar Sa’ad who unwittingly gave scholarly credence to the Queen Amina of Zaria myth.
20 – World renowned historians, including Professor Abdullahi Smith and Professor Murray Last, have conclusively demonstrated that Queen Amina of Zaria never existed.