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Re: Jesus Christ Spent 2 Days In The Grave Not 3 by Kobojunkie: 6:29pm On Jul 16, 2022
tctrills:
Ok, keep it to yourself na.
This is an easy comprehension assignment. All 4 accounts do not agree at all. undecided


a. On the first day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread, Jesus Christ instructs His disciples to go prepare everything for the Passover meal - Matthew 26 vs 17 - 19
b. Jesus and His disciples have their Last Supper on the first day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread - Mark 14 vs 12 - 17
c. Jesus Christ instructed His disciples to go prepare the Passover meal for the group on the Day of Unleavened bread. - Luke 22 vs 7 - 13
d. It was almost time for the Jewish Passover Festival, that evening Jesus Christ came together for the mean with His followers - John 13 vs 1 - 3

Clearly, one of the accounts has to be wrong! Which do you believe to be wrong since all of them can't be right? Or do you instead reason that they are all of them wrong? undecided
Re: Jesus Christ Spent 2 Days In The Grave Not 3 by tctrills: 6:31pm On Jul 16, 2022
Kobojunkie:
This is an easy comprehension assignment. All 4 accounts do not agree at all. undecided


a. On the first day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread, Jesus Christ instructs His disciples to go prepare everything for the Passover meal - Matthew 26 vs 17 - 19
b. Jesus and His disciples have their Last Supper on the first day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread - Mark 14 vs 12 - 17
c. Jesus Christ instructed His disciples to go prepare the Passover meal for the group on the Day of Unleavened bread. - Luke 22 vs 7 - 13
d. It was almost time for the Jewish Passover Festival, that evening Jesus Christ came together for the mean with His followers - John 13 vs 1 - 3

Clearly, one of the accounts has to be wrong! Which do you believe to be wrong since all of them can't be right? Or do you instead reason that they are all of them wrong? undecided
Baba you are the one that brought up this comparison, You said one is wrong now I ask you to tell me which is right and which is wrong and you start doing guy. When you are ready to talk, I am here.
Re: Jesus Christ Spent 2 Days In The Grave Not 3 by Kobojunkie: 6:38pm On Jul 16, 2022
tctrills:
Baba you are the one that brought up this comparison, You said one is wrong now I ask you to tell me which is right and which is wrong and you start doing guy. When you are ready to talk, I am here.
Is it that you would rather not broach the issue at all or something? undecided
You seem to be highly resistant to the idea that there are obvious errors in the accounts in your Bible. This just happens to be one of them, by the way. undecided


a. On the first day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread, Jesus Christ instructs His disciples to go prepare everything for the Passover meal - Matthew 26 vs 17 - 19
b. Jesus and His disciples have their Last Supper on the first day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread - Mark 14 vs 12 - 17
c. Jesus Christ instructed His disciples to go prepare the Passover meal for the group on the Day of Unleavened bread. - Luke 22 vs 7 - 13
d. It was almost time for the Jewish Passover Festival, that evening Jesus Christ came together for the mean with His followers - John 13 vs 1 - 3

Clearly, one of the accounts has to be wrong! If you conclude that all 4 accounts are wrong then you are to state why. undecided
Re: Jesus Christ Spent 2 Days In The Grave Not 3 by tctrills: 6:40pm On Jul 16, 2022
Kobojunkie:
Is it that you would rather not broach the issue at all or something? undecided


a. On the first day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread, Jesus Christ instructs His disciples to go prepare everything for the Passover meal - Matthew 26 vs 17 - 19
b. Jesus and His disciples have their Last Supper on the first day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread - Mark 14 vs 12 - 17
c. Jesus Christ instructed His disciples to go prepare the Passover meal for the group on the Day of Unleavened bread. - Luke 22 vs 7 - 13
d. It was almost time for the Jewish Passover Festival, that evening Jesus Christ came together for the mean with His followers - John 13 vs 1 - 3

Clearly, one of the accounts has to be wrong! If you conclude that all 4 accounts are wrong then you are to state why. undecided

Oga which one is wrong and which one is right simple. If you don't no its ok to say so.
Re: Jesus Christ Spent 2 Days In The Grave Not 3 by Kobojunkie: 6:47pm On Jul 16, 2022
SharonLoveth:
You really did well, kudos to you
He instead lied. Why do you folks like to exalt that which makes no sense all so you can pretend to spite those who question ideas you cling to? undecided
Re: Jesus Christ Spent 2 Days In The Grave Not 3 by Kobojunkie: 7:11pm On Jul 16, 2022
IslamVIRGINS:
Your problem is that you have issue with counting of days. Let me ask you this
FROM SUNDAY TO ANOTHER SUNDAY IS HOW MANY DAYS?
FROM MONDAY TO THE NEXT MONDAY IS HOW MANY DAYS?
If you have your new baby today when are you going to name the child, is it after 7days or 8days?
So therefore, FROM FRIDAY TO SUNDAY IS 3 DAYS
You get problem with counting of days.
If Jesus Christ had in fact died on Friday and rose on Sunday, it would in fact mean that Jesus Christ spent 2 days in the grave aka dead. No need for this. undecided

However, Jesus Christ didn't in fact die on a Friday but on a Thursday. He was instead buried on a Friday. Jesus Christ predicted He would be handed over to His enemies on Passover Day - Matthew 26 vs 1- 2, a claim corroborated by the Gospel of John's account of what took place - John 13 vs 1 - 2 - meaning that Last Supper, which was a Passover feast, was in fact eaten by Jesus Christ and His disciples on Passover day, and not the Day after Passover, in agreement with God's commandment - Leviticus 23 vs 4 - 5.

The day after Passover happened to be a Holiday decreed by God, the First Day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread - Leviticus 23 vs 6 -8. God commanded a Holy Assembly of the people, on that day explaining why the High Priests, the Teachers of the Law, Pharisees, Jewish Elders, and even the people were gathered outside of the Temple on that day. Because it was a Holy Day, the Jewish authorities could not kill Jesus Christ by themselves, since they could not do any work on that day. Typically, anyone who was found guilty by Jewish Law was stoned to death, but because the day was a Holy Day, the Jewish authorities handed Jesus Christ over to Pilate and demanded that He be killed on the cross. undecided

So, Jesus Christ was crucified on the First Day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread, a Thursday, and a Jewish Holiday. He could not be buried on that day since it was a Holy day, and so His body hung on the cross until the next day, Friday when He was eventually buried. What this means is that Jesus Christ was indeed in the grave - the place of death - from about 3:00 pm on that Thursday afternoon, till about 6:00 am on Sunday, the day after the Sabbath day, when He rose, for what was approximately 63 hours which meets the 3-days-and-3-nights prophecy with Him rising on the 3rd day. undecided
Re: Jesus Christ Spent 2 Days In The Grave Not 3 by Kobojunkie: 8:57pm On Jul 16, 2022
tctrills:

Oga which one is wrong and which one is right simple. If you don't no its ok to say so.
Somethinh else you be ready to accepy when you finally admit to yourself that your Bible contains errors is that you must then abandon all manmade doctrines and traditions which suggest that the book is Holy and inerrant. undecided

As I already stated several times during the course of this here conversation, your Bible is not Holy - it was meant that way from its beginning so by clinging to ideas that contradict its reality, you open yourself up to adopting ideas which contradict that declared by God Himself as His Truth. undecided
Re: Jesus Christ Spent 2 Days In The Grave Not 3 by tctrills: 9:20pm On Jul 16, 2022
Kobojunkie:
Somethinh else you be ready to accepy when you finally admit to yourself that your Bible contains errors is that you must then abandon all manmade doctrines and traditions which suggest that the book is Holy and inerrant. undecided

As I already stated several times during the course of this here conversation, your Bible is not Holy - it was meant that way from its beginning so by clinging to ideas that contradict its reality, you open yourself up to adopting ideas which contradict that declared by God Himself as His Truth. undecided
Bro, you seem to have lost your energy and courage. You have been on this say page sinse yesterday. Please answer the question, which one is wrong and which is right.
Re: Jesus Christ Spent 2 Days In The Grave Not 3 by tctrills: 9:23pm On Jul 16, 2022
Kobojunkie:
If Jesus Christ had in fact died on Friday and rose on Sunday, it would in fact mean that Jesus Christ spent 2 days in the grave aka dead. No need for this. undecided

However, Jesus Christ didn't in fact die on a Friday but on a Thursday. He was instead buried on a Friday. Jesus Christ predicted He would be handed over to His enemies on Passover Day - Matthew 26 vs 1- 2, a claim corroborated by the Gospel of John's account of what took place - John 13 vs 1 - 2 - meaning that Last Supper, which was a Passover feast, was in fact eaten by Jesus Christ and His disciples on Passover day, and not the Day after Passover, in agreement with God's commandment - Leviticus 23 vs 4 - 5.

The day after Passover happened to be a Holiday decreed by God, the First Day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread - Leviticus 23 vs 6 -8. God commanded a Holy Assembly of the people, on that day explaining why the High Priests, the Teachers of the Law, Pharisees, Jewish Elders, and even the people were gathered outside of the Temple on that day. Because it was a Holy Day, the Jewish authorities could not kill Jesus Christ by themselves, since they could not do any work on that day. Typically, anyone who was found guilty by Jewish Law was stoned to death, but because the day was a Holy Day, the Jewish authorities handed Jesus Christ over to Pilate and demanded that He be killed on the cross. undecided

So, Jesus Christ was crucified on the First Day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread, a Thursday, and a Jewish Holiday. He could not be buried on that day since it was a Holy day, and so His body hung on the cross until the next day, Friday when He was eventually buried. What this means is that Jesus Christ was indeed in the grave - the place of death - from about 3:00 pm on that Thursday afternoon, till about 6:00 am on Sunday, the day after the Sabbath day, when He rose, for what was approximately 63 hours which meets the 3-days-and-3-nights prophecy with Him rising on the 3rd day. undecided
Many things you write here are not true but let's forget about that.
Did it ever come to your mind that Leviticus 24 could be false. Maybe it's another fake and not the word of God?
Re: Jesus Christ Spent 2 Days In The Grave Not 3 by Kobojunkie: 10:10pm On Jul 16, 2022

Let's make this whole matter, very easy and simple to start unravel.

1. What day of the week did Jesus go into the grave?
2. What time of the day in question 1, above, did Jesus die. Was it day time. Or was it night time?
3. What day of the week did Jesus go rise from the dead?
4. What time of the day in question 3, above, did Jesus rise from the dead. Was it day time? Or was it night time?
5. How many days and nights in total was Jesus in the grave for
6. Give the names the days, that make up the answer to question 5, above
7. What time of the day (i.e. is it day time or is it night time) and what day of the week did Jesus resurrect?
Days are counted pretty much the same across even Jewish culture. undecided

1 & 2. Jesus Christ died - went to the grave- on Thursday at about 3:00 PM. undecided

3 & 4. Jesus Christ rose at dawn on Sunday, the day after the Sabbath, at about dawn. undecided

5. Jesus Christ was in the grave for 3 days and 3 nights, approximately 63 hours. undecided

6 & 7. Huh? undecided
Re: Jesus Christ Spent 2 Days In The Grave Not 3 by NNTR: 2:27am On Jul 17, 2022
NNTR:
The way the Bible and the Jews interpret days is different to the way days are interpreted in the West

Let's make this whole matter, very easy and simple to start unravel.

1. What day of the week did Jesus go into the grave?
2. What time of the day in question 1, above, did Jesus die. Was it day time. Or was it night time?
3. What day of the week did Jesus go rise from the dead?
4. What time of the day in question 3, above, did Jesus rise from the dead. Was it day time? Or was it night time?
5. How many days and nights in total was Jesus in the grave for
6. Give the names the days, that make up the answer to question 5, above
7. What time of the day (i.e. is it day time or is it night time) and what day of the week did Jesus resurrect?

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.


Kobojunkie:
Days are counted pretty much the same across even Jewish culture. undecided

1 & 2. Jesus Christ died - went to the grave- on Thursday at about 3:00 PM. undecided

3 & 4. Jesus Christ rose at dawn on Sunday, the day after the Sabbath, at about dawn. undecided

5. Jesus Christ was in the grave for 3 days and 3 nights, approximately 63 hours. undecided

6 & 7. Huh? undecided
Genesis 1:5
'God called the light “day,”
and the darkness he called “night.”
And there was evening, and there was morning
—the first day.
'

Amos 8:9
'“In that day,” says the Sovereign LORD,
“I will make the sun go down at noon and darken the earth while it is still day.
'

Mark 15:33
'33When the sixth hour (noon) came, darkness covered the whole land until the ninth hour (3:00 p.m.).
34And at the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, “ELOI, ELOI, LAMA SABACHTHANI?”
--which is translated, “MY GOD, MY GOD, WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKEN ME?”
35Some of the bystanders heard Him and said, “Look! He is calling for Elijah!”
36Someone ran and filled a sponge with sour wine, put it on a reed and gave Him a drink, saying,
“Let us see whether Elijah is coming to take Him down.”
37But Jesus uttered a loud cry, and breathed out His last
[voluntarily, sovereignly dismissing and releasing His spirit from His body in submission to His Father’s plan].
38And the veil [of the Holy of Holies] of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom.
39When the centurion, who was standing opposite Him, saw the way He breathed His last [being fully in control], he said,
“Truly this man was the Son of God!”'


The Babylonians counted as one day, the time from sunrise to sunrise. The Greeks employed the opposite method; they counted as one day the time from sunset to sunset.

Meaning, the Romans began their day at midnight and counted 12 hours to high 12 noon and then 12 more hours from noon to the next midnight. We keep Roman time, so in effect, we count a day from midnight to midnight, same day, the day ends (i.e. Man's calendar day, begins at midnight and is completed 24 hours later) but in the bible and equally in the Jewish tradition, the new day starts at sunset or sundown and so, with Jewish tradition, the custom's, to count the day, from the onset of night (i.e. the visibility of three stars in the sky) until after the sunset of the following day.

As seen from Genesis 1:5 above, the bible marks days, from evening to morning, and this done, as a biblical extension of God, turning darkness into light. This long established observance, is seen continued through the New Testament period and is practiced today by many observant Jews.

So in effect, the Jewish day runs sunset to sunset, the Christian day runs sunrise to sunrise and the secular day midnight to midnight.

As believers, we are not bound to divide days, the Jew or Babylonians' same way, but having an understanding of the Jewish way of reckoning time, is basic to understanding some of the ideas, customs and social behavioural practices in the Bible.

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
Re: Jesus Christ Spent 2 Days In The Grave Not 3 by oaroloye(m): 3:42am On Jul 17, 2022
SHALOM!!

Most Gentiles do not know that the Sabbath was not always Saturday.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Wednesday

The Solar Calendar is a Roman Catholic Convention. CONSTANTINE, who founded It (not to be confused with the ROMAN CHURCH, that existed before PAUL went to Rome,) was actually a Sun Worshipper, and was never baptized until the day that he died.
Re: Jesus Christ Spent 2 Days In The Grave Not 3 by IslamVIRGINS(f): 11:17am On Jul 18, 2022
Kobojunkie:
If Jesus Christ had in fact died on Friday and rose on Sunday, it would in fact mean that Jesus Christ spent 2 days in the grave aka dead. No need for this. undecided

However, Jesus Christ didn't in fact die on a Friday but on a Thursday. He was instead buried on a Friday. Jesus Christ predicted He would be handed over to His enemies on Passover Day - Matthew 26 vs 1- 2, a claim corroborated by the Gospel of John's account of what took place - John 13 vs 1 - 2 - meaning that Last Supper, which was a Passover feast, was in fact eaten by Jesus Christ and His disciples on Passover day, and not the Day after Passover, in agreement with God's commandment - Leviticus 23 vs 4 - 5.

The day after Passover happened to be a Holiday decreed by God, the First Day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread - Leviticus 23 vs 6 -8. God commanded a Holy Assembly of the people, on that day explaining why the High Priests, the Teachers of the Law, Pharisees, Jewish Elders, and even the people were gathered outside of the Temple on that day. Because it was a Holy Day, the Jewish authorities could not kill Jesus Christ by themselves, since they could not do any work on that day. Typically, anyone who was found guilty by Jewish Law was stoned to death, but because the day was a Holy Day, the Jewish authorities handed Jesus Christ over to Pilate and demanded that He be killed on the cross. undecided

So, Jesus Christ was crucified on the First Day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread, a Thursday, and a Jewish Holiday. He could not be buried on that day since it was a Holy day, and so His body hung on the cross until the next day, Friday when He was eventually buried. What this means is that Jesus Christ was indeed in the grave - the place of death - from about 3:00 pm on that Thursday afternoon, till about 6:00 am on Sunday, the day after the Sabbath day, when He rose, for what was approximately 63 hours which meets the 3-days-and-3-nights prophecy with Him rising on the 3rd day. undecided

Is that all? You can still do more better
Re: Jesus Christ Spent 2 Days In The Grave Not 3 by IslamVIRGINS(f): 11:18am On Jul 18, 2022
Kobojunkie:
Using 24-hour calculation, Friday to Sunday can indeed be 2 days. For example from 1:00 pm Friday to 1:00 pm the next Sunday is 2 days. undecided

Is that all? Your Maths teacher really tried for you
Re: Jesus Christ Spent 2 Days In The Grave Not 3 by SharonLoveth(f): 5:01pm On Jul 18, 2022
Kobojunkie:
He instead lied. Why do you folks like to exalt that which makes no sense all so you can pretend to spite those who question ideas you cling to? undecided

So from Friday to Sunday is 2day, indeed you are right

Thank you

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