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What is His Name? by Ahmad Deedat

THIS WILL SHOCK YOU CHRISTIANS (HIS NAME IS ALLAH EVEN IN THE BIBLE!):

http://www.islamawareness.net/Allah/wihn.html

WARNING:
Missionaries are prone to distorting and misquoting verses and deliberately mistranslating them.they have perfected the art with the bible so they tend to do that with every other book out there!So please verify all the verses they quote and check the references they present.

Smh

LagosShia:

What is His Name? by Ahmad Deedat

THIS WILL SHOCK YOU CHRISTIANS (HIS NAME IS ALLAH EVEN IN THE BIBLE!):

http://www.islamawareness.net/Allah/wihn.html

WARNING:
Missionaries are prone to distorting and misquoting verses and deliberately mistranslating them.they have perfected the art with the bible so they tend to do that with every other book out there!So please verify all the verses they quote and check the references they present.

So? What is the big deal?
The name might be common to or shared by christians and muslims but you'll have to be naive to assume its the same God for both parties concerned

LagosShia:

What is His Name? by Ahmad Deedat

THIS WILL SHOCK YOU CHRISTIANS (HIS NAME IS ALLAH EVEN IN THE BIBLE!):

http://www.islamawareness.net/Allah/wihn.html

WARNING:
Missionaries are prone to distorting and misquoting verses and deliberately mistranslating them.they have perfected the art with the bible so they tend to do that with every other book out there!So please verify all the verses they quote and check the references they present.

struggling to force allah into the bible again arent we? this bible (that allah claims is corrupt by the way) must be real important to islam with the rate the strive to force themselves into it.

davidylan:

struggling to force allah into the bible again arent we? this bible (that allah claims is corrupt by the way) must be real important to islam with the rate the strive to force themselves into it.

please allow me to reply to your juvenile words from another thread where your fellow made similar comment:

LagosShia:

muslims do not use the bible to "justify" their beliefs.they use the bible to counter you whether in showing the falsehood of your beliefs or the truthfulness of Islam.the bible is not used to convince muslims and the Quran is indeed sufficient for us.muslims use the bible for you and your likes because you consider it as your book of divine authority.

besides,we muslims do believe in previous revelations and we do believe that the bible contains inspired verses we can fish out.but what you refuse to realize and accept is the fact that muslims point to you that the bible also contains ugly and wrong verses full of erros that testify and confirm that human hands have tampered with it and not everything in it is God's word or inspiration.

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-729642.0.html

davidylan:

struggling to force allah into the bible again arent we?   this bible (that allah claims is corrupt by the way) must be real important to islam with the rate the strive to force themselves into it.

It is quite apparent, the copy was doctored. What a clumsy and sloppy way it was done too - the page's superimposed contrast is apparent

LagosShia:

please allow me to reply to your juvenile words from another thread where your fellow made similar comment:

muslims do not use the bible to "justify" their beliefs.they use the bible to counter you whether in showing the falsehood of your beliefs or the truthfulness of Islam. - so why are they struggling to prove that mohammad was the "comforter" in the bible? why are they trying TOO HARD to use the bible to "show us the falsehood of our beliefs"? Why do they need the bible to show the "truthfulness of islam"? I dont see any christian trying to prove that Christ is real by opening the quran.  

besides,we muslims do believe in previous revelations and we do believe that the bible contains inspired verses we can fish out. - which is it? The bible is corrupt or it contains inspired verses . . . i mean can a "god" be so careless as to leave "inspired" verses or "previous revelations" in a book he claims is corrupt and must be destroyed?

Overhaul:




So? What is the big deal?
The name might be common to or shared by christians and muslims but you'll have to be naive to assume its the same God for both parties concerned

the issue is not begging on the question on whether it is the same or not.the point being made is about the christian hanky-panky and their tampering of the bible which happens even in modern times and up to our day.

as for whether they refer to the same God,we only believe in One God who is the God of all including Jesus (as).this is what the Holy Quran has to say:

(2:136) Say, [O believers], "We have believe in Allah and what has been revealed to us and what has been revealed to Abraham and Ishmael and Isaac and Jacob and the Descendants and what was given to Moses and Jesus and what was given to the prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and we are Muslims [in submission] to Him."

davidylan:



muslims do not use the bible to "justify" their beliefs.they use the bible to counter you whether in showing the falsehood of your beliefs or the truthfulness of Islam. - so why are they struggling to prove that mohammad was the "comforter" in the bible? why are they trying TOO HARD to use the bible to "show us the falsehood of our beliefs"? Why do they need the bible to show the "truthfulness of islam"? I dont see any christian trying to prove that Christ is real by opening the quran.

is it that hard to reason?
we do because islam is universal religion that guides people and save them from the pit of disbelief.

christians actually have opened the Quran to make ridiculous claims and to the extent of even trying to twist Quranic verses to justify the pagan trinity for instance.

in reality christians do not need to open the Quran to justify Jesus (as),because the Quran does confirm Jesus all but from a different angle.

besides,we muslims do believe in previous revelations and we do believe that the bible contains inspired verses we can fish out. - which is it? The bible is corrupt or it contains inspired verses . . . i mean can a "god" be so careless as to leave "inspired" verses or "previous revelations" in a book he claims is corrupt and must be destroyed?

He did not leave.

infact Jesus himself never wrote anything.it was those who "heard him" and preserved his teachings and the inspired words given to him that twisted things .they added and subtracted to his words and made a cocktail of all colors.

Qur'an 4:163-165
163 Lo! We inspire thee (Muhammad) as We inspired Noah and the prophets after him, as We inspired Abraham and Ishmael and Isaac and Jacob and the tribes, and Jesus and Job and Jonah and Aaron and Solomon, and as we imparted unto David the Psalms;
164 And messengers We have mentioned unto thee before and messengers We have not mentioned unto thee; and Allah spake directly unto Moses;
165 Messengers of good cheer and off warning, in order that mankind might have no argument against Allah after the messengers. Allah was ever Mighty, Wise.


Qur'an 6:84-86
84 And We bestowed upon him Isaac and Jacob; each of them We guided; and Noah did We guide aforetime; and of his seed (We guided) David and Solomon and Job and Joseph and Moses and Aaron. Thus do We reward the good.
85 And Zachariah and John and Jesus and Elias. Each one (of them) was of the righteous.
86 And Ishmael and Elisha and Jonah and Lot. Each one of them did We prefer above (Our) creatures,

Qur'an 21:85-88
85 And (mention) Ishmael, and Idris (Enoch), and Dhul-Kifl (Ezekiel). All were of the steadfast.
86 And We brought them in unto Our mercy. Lo! they are among the righteous.
87 And (mention) Dhun Nun (Jonah), when he went off in anger and deemed that We had no power over him, but he cried out in the darkness, saying: There is no God save Thee. Be Thou glorified! I have been a wrong-doer.
88 Then We heard his prayer and saved him from the anguish. Thus We save believers.

LagosShia:

is it that hard to reason?
we do because islam is universal religion that guides people and save them from the pit of disbelief.

But then allah then went ahead and created christianity that became much bigger and more powerful than the alleged "universal religion"? So is this "universal religion" idea the reason you are desperate to spread islam by sword and force?

LagosShia:

christians actually have opened the Quran to make ridiculous claims and to the extent of even trying to twist Quranic verses to justify the pagan trinity for instance.

none has opened it to prove Christ is real to them though right? None open it to prove that Solomon existed right? None opens it to force Jesus Christ into it right?

LagosShia:

in reality christians do not need to open the Quran to justify Jesus (as),because the Quran does confirm Jesus all but from a different angle.

it doesnt. to be frank the quran has nothing on Jesus that isnt found in the bible. Infact we constantly see muslims rushing to grab a bible to fill in the gaps on Jesus and the "prophets that the quran missed out.

LagosShia:

[b]infact Jesus himself never wrote anything.[/b]it was those who "heard him" and preserved his teachings and the inspired words given to him that twisted things .they added and subtracted to his words and made a cocktail of all colors.

But i thought allah sent down the injeel through Jesus? Which is it islamist?

Finally, I got an idea about davidylan; he is probably a recording [computer or something], because he post the same lousy statement with the silly grin, everywhere and every time muslim brings out some truth in the Bible that you can verify because Quran says so and it definitely made sense. Take a look at the below and you will find many like that from him, if you check his posts;

« #5 on: Today at 09:07:10 PM »

Quote from: LagosShia on Today at 08:03:51 PM
What is His Name? by Ahmad Deedat

THIS WILL SHOCK YOU CHRISTIANS (HIS NAME IS ALLAH EVEN IN THE BIBLE!):

http://www.islamawareness.net/Allah/wihn.html

WARNING:
Missionaries are prone to distorting and misquoting verses and deliberately mistranslating them.they have perfected the art with the bible so they tend to do that with every other book out there!So please verify all the verses they quote and check the references they present.

struggling to force allah into the bible again arent we?  Grin this bible (that allah claims is corrupt by the way) must be real important to islam with the rate the strive to force themselves into it.


Since Jesus on the cross as reported by the Bible said "Ellah" by his not arabic but another semitic accent, one should wonder why he didn't say Yahweh, or Adonia, or El Shadai, or Jehovah?

Sweetnecta:

Finally, I got an idea about davidylan; he is probably a recording [computer or something], because he post the same lousy statement with the silly grin, everywhere and every time muslim brings out some truth in the Bible that you can verify because Quran says so and it definitely made sense. Take a look at the below and you will find many like that from him, if you check his posts;

Bravo! You got that right.
Probably because muslims are spambots, regurgitating the same false nonsense we've seen on ahmed deedat's website with no clue as to whether they are true or not. You bet i'll just come back with the same response - trying to force islam into the bible again aye?

LagosShia« #2 on: Today at 08:03:51 PM »

WARNING:
Missionaries are prone to distorting and misquoting verses and deliberately mistranslating them.they have perfected the art with the bible so they tend to do that with every other book out there!So please verify all the verses they quote and check the references they present.

Especially if quoted by Frosbel. I have been wondering if he has printed his own Qur'an.

LagosShia
y nt leave Davidylan 2 his ignorance
wat does he know bout Quran n its content
abeg free him

davidylan:

But then allah then went ahead and created christianity that became much bigger and more powerful than the alleged "universal religion"? So is this "universal religion" idea the reason you are desperate to spread islam by sword and force?

can you prove it was Allah (swt) that created christianity and not the false pen of the scribes?

christianity is no powerful.christians in the "powerful" countries are christians by name only and have abandoned it long ago before you were even born to be brainwashed.

it is no suprise that the majority on earth are misguided.the Holy Quran had prophesied that more than a thousand years ago:

[6:116] If you obey the majority of people on earth, they will divert you from the path of GOD. They follow only conjecture; they only guess.

none has opened it to prove Christ is real to them though right? None open it to prove that Solomon existed right? None opens it to force Jesus Christ into it right?

what has existence got to do with this?

it doesnt. to be frank the quran has nothing on Jesus that isnt found in the bible. Infact we constantly see muslims rushing to grab a bible to fill in the gaps on Jesus and the "prophets that the quran missed out.

allegation!

But i thought allah sent down the injeel through Jesus? Which is it islamist?

exactly!

the injeel of Jesus is what we believe in and is incorporated in the Holy Quran.not the "gospel of saint this and that" or "gospel according to this and that"!

you end up not having one that is according to Jesus himself in your bible!you lack the "gospel of Jesus".where is the "gospel of Jesus,according to Jesus"?

[6:116] If you obey the majority of people on earth, they will divert you from the path of GOD. They follow only conjecture; they only guess.

Confusion galore, and yet you boast about Islam as the majority religion

LagosShia:

can you prove it was Allah (swt) that created christianity and not the false pen of the scribes?

these must be power scribes.   They changed allah's injeel and torah completely then lied to billions of people about it? they also planted all those historical facts in the bible?   lol allah must be so weak as to have been defeated by a few scribes.

LagosShia:

christianity is no powerful.christians in the "powerful" countries are christians by name only and have abandoned it long ago before you were even born to be brainwashed.

but you cant take away the fact that these nations were FIRST christian in character . . . look at countries where mooslims are the majority - poverty, slavery, violence and death reign supreme.

LagosShia:

it is no suprise that the majority on earth are misguided.the Holy Quran had prophesied that more than a thousand years ago:

not more misguided than those slaughtering themselves in syria right? allah and his "prophecies"  . . . even i could have "prophesied" that.

LagosShia:

[6:116] If you obey the majority of people on earth, they will divert you from the path of GOD. They follow only conjecture; they only guess.

are the muslim countries any better?

LagosShia:

the injeel of Jesus is what we believe in and is incorporated in the Holy Quran.not the gospel of saint this and that or according to this and that!

So where in the quran is this injeel? show us.  

Dyt:

LagosShia
y nt leave Davidylan 2 his ignorance
wat does he know bout Quran n its content
abeg free him

Neither do you know anything about the quran. It says you are going to hell if you're not a shahid . . . did you know that?

LagosShia:

the issue is not begging on the question on whether it is the same or not. the point being made is about the christian hanky-panky and their tampering of the bible which happens even in modern times and up to our day.

as for whether they refer to the same God,we only believe in One God who is the God of all including Jesus (as).this is what the Holy Quran has to say:

(2:136) Say, [O believers], "We have believe in Allah and what has been revealed to us and what has been revealed to Abraham and Ishmael and Isaac and Jacob and the Descendants and what was given to Moses and Jesus and what was given to the prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and we are Muslims [in submission] to Him."

So what exactly was the hanky panky. I suppose the muslims are squeaky clean with their koran verses. It has no hanky pankies or inconsistencies?
I wouldnt blame the accused party, if the case was, they were trying to dissociate and keep a wide berth from what had become of the name the other party took on from them

@davidylan:
[Quote]« #12 on: Today at 09:39:08 PM »
Quote from: LagosShia on Today at 09:28:34 PM
is it that hard to reason?
we do because islam is universal religion that guides people and save them from the pit of disbelief.

But then allah then went ahead and created christianity that became much bigger and more powerful than the alleged "universal religion"? So is this "universal religion" idea the reason you are desperate to spread islam by sword and force?[/Quote]Allah did not create christianity. Jesus did not even create christianity. Allah Who sent Jesus, Jesus who was sent by Allah, neither created christianity. Ask Paul. He will tell you. The people of Antioch gave you the name, unless they are the ones who sent Jesus you human god?

Some day in the past, Islam of Muhammad [as] was just him, before his wife Khadija [ra] joined him later that day. Judaism was millions of people at that time and Christianity was already more than it. This was in 610. This many years christianity has ahead of islam of Muhammad. InchaAllah in less that 300 years from now, Christianity will be overran by Islam in the numbers of the adherents. There will not be a rapture and if you are capable to stick around, you will see the dust on the face of Christianity, left behind. below is a proof;


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMi_-xqhBYw&feature=related




[Quote]Quote from: LagosShia on Today at 09:28:34 PM
christians actually have opened the Quran to make ridiculous claims and to the extent of even trying to twist Quranic verses to justify the pagan trinity for instance.

none has opened it to prove Christ is real to them though right?  Grin None open it to prove that Solomon existed right? None opens it to force Jesus Christ into it right?[/Quote]The post that opened the threads of Itistrue guy does.




[Quote]Quote from: LagosShia on Today at 09:28:34 PM
in reality christians do not need to open the Quran to justify Jesus (as),because the Quran does confirm Jesus all but from a different angle.

it doesnt. to be frank the quran has nothing on Jesus that isnt found in the bible. Infact we constantly see muslims rushing to grab a bible to fill in the gaps on Jesus and the "prophets that the quran missed out.[/Quote]How about a messenger of Allah and He gave me Book and wisdom, and has made me not a burden on my mother. Peace is the day I was born, peace is the day i will die. And peace is the day I will be be raised up for Judgment? How about Speaking as a baby in the cradle to defend his mother. Please show me these two in the Bibles, but they are in Surah Maryam, if you need to know.




[Quote]Quote from: LagosShia on Today at 09:28:34 PM
infact Jesus himself never wrote anything.it was those who "heard him" and preserved his teachings and the inspired words given to him that twisted things .they added and subtracted to his words and made a cocktail of all colors.

But i thought allah sent down the injeel through Jesus? Which is it islamist?  Grin[/Quote]I thought Yahweh or Jehovah sent Old Testament down to Moses, from it lies the 10 Commandments? But Jeremiah says how can we be wise [meaning they are foolish] the pen of the scribes have lied [doctoring Old Testament]? Further it is the same OT laws and Prophets that Jesus said must not be abolished, and I am certain you have abolished one of the 10 Commandments because Paul told you that the one you have abolished has been nailed on the cross along with the accursed soul of Jesus, freeing you from all the laws? Tell us how the OT and NT sent to Yahweh's elects are not bastardized by the lying pen of Paul?

allah and his funny games.  

LagosShia:

Qur'an 4:163-165
163 Lo! We inspire thee (Muhammad) as We inspired Noah and the prophets after him, as We inspired Abraham and[b] Ishmael[/b] and[b] Isaac[/b] and Jacob and the tribes, and Jesus and Job and Jonah and Aaron and Solomon, and as we imparted unto[b] David[/b] the Psalms;
164 And messengers We have mentioned unto thee before and messengers We have not mentioned unto thee; and Allah spake directly unto Moses;
165 Messengers of good cheer and off warning, in order that mankind might have no argument against Allah after the messengers. Allah was ever Mighty, Wise.

there are a few things to note here . . .

1. Besides ishmael and mohammad . . . every single of the "prophets" allah mentions here are all of the jewish stock! why is this? If Ishmael was the chosen son of Abraham as allah falsely claims, then why did he ignore him and choose ALL his prophets from the line of Isaac?

2. Why is it that all the names mentioned here as "prophets" just so happen to be documented in the bible? why is it allah just curiously seems to have NO other prophets outside the bible?

3. Strange - allah seems to just mention these "prophets" randomly, there is no order at all, some lived hundreds of years before the other.

LagosShia:

Qur'an 6:84-86
84 And We bestowed upon him Isaac and Jacob; each of them We guided; and Noah did We guide aforetime; and of his seed (We guided) David and Solomon and Job and Joseph and Moses and Aaron. Thus do We reward the good.
85 And Zachariah and John and Jesus and Elias. Each one (of them) was of the righteous.
86 And Ishmael and Elisha and Jonah and Lot. Each one of them did We prefer above (Our) creatures,

See above . . .

1. Elisha? How was he an islamic prophet? Calling down fire from above on the prophets of baal? does allah now do that too?

2. Why is it the only person here that the quran has NOTHING on is ishmael who surprisingly the bible also has nothing on??  

LagosShia:

Qur'an 21:85-88
85 And (mention) Ishmael, and Idris (Enoch), and Dhul-Kifl (Ezekiel). All were of the steadfast.
86 And We brought them in unto Our mercy. Lo! they are among the righteous.
87 And (mention) Dhun Nun (Jonah), when he went off in anger and deemed that We had no power over him, but he cried out in the darkness, saying: There is no God save Thee. Be Thou glorified! I have been a wrong-doer.
88 Then We heard his prayer and saved him from the anguish. Thus We save believers.

Again more jewish figures in allah's prophet list. which is quite funny considering the same quran calls their descendants apes and pigs. Allah gat jokes.

Sweetnecta:

I thought Yahweh or Jehovah sent Old Testament down to Moses, from it lies the 10 Commandments? But Jeremiah says how can we be wise [meaning they are foolish] the pen of the scribes have lied [doctoring Old Testament]? Further it is the same OT laws and Prophets that Jesus said must not be abolished, and I am certain you have abolished one of the 10 Commandments because Paul told you that the one you have abolished has been nailed on the cross along with the accursed soul of Jesus, freeing you from all the laws? Tell us how the OT and NT sent to Yahweh's elects are not bastardized by the lying pen of Paul?

but i thot lagoshia said the injeel was preserved in the quran. Where is it? did the pen of the scribes get there too?

Fellow TRUE Christians,


There is always more that can be said to refute the claims of a Muslim in a debate, and the unfortunate reality is that to refute an unfounded claim takes 50 times more work than it takes for the other side to regurgitate mantra. Of course, once you do, they simply change the subject and/or attack you, your beliefs, and/or your country.

You can't blame them. They obviously have no basis for their beliefs other than they are told this is what they are to believe. And since they are creatures of thoughtless obedience, they have no abilities nor desire to use rational thought and logic to formulate a response on their own. Therefore they have no choice but to change the subject once you refute the lines that they have in their script.


The message in the Qur'an is in every way in direct opposition to Yahweh's Scripture, the most glaring of which is the fact that Yahweh's description of Heaven is simply existing with Him, and Hell is simply existing separated from Him. In Islam, Heaven is obviously defined as something rather embarrassing and morally depraved. But that is nothing compared to the stark contrast of Hell. Islam graphically depicts Hell as consisting of eternal physical torture that is personally metered out by Allah!



The reasons why there is so much of the Torah and Gospels in the Qur'an is that Muhammad was woefully mentally incapable of contriving the religious base that he needed to pull off his scheme, so he had to pay Rabbis to get the background and foundations he required to pull off his business plan to gain power, money, and sex. This information comes directly from Islam's own scriptures, by the way.


Enough said.

Edited from an excerpt on Prophet of DOOM .

@Overhaul: « #21 on: Today at 10:01:11 PM »
[Quote]Quote from: LagosShia on Today at 09:23:32 PM
the issue is not begging on the question on whether it is the same or not. the point being made is about the christian hanky-panky and their tampering of the bible which happens even in modern times and up to our day.

as for whether they refer to the same God,we only believe in One God who is the God of all including Jesus (as).this is what the Holy Quran has to say:

(2:136) Say, [O believers], "We have believe in Allah and what has been revealed to us and what has been revealed to Abraham and Ishmael and Isaac and Jacob and the Descendants and what was given to Moses and Jesus and what was given to the prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and we are Muslims [in submission] to Him."

So what exactly was the hanky panky. I suppose the muslims are squeaky clean with their koran verses. It has no hanky pankies or inconsistencies? I wouldnt blame the accused party, if the case was, they were trying to dissociate and keep a wide berth from what had become of the name the other party took on from them[/Quote]Start with the accusation of Jeremiah on the Scribes and their lying pen.

The go to www.leveltruth.com

will sweetnecta help me with the original injeel that was incorporated in the quran pls? allah gat jokes.
I'm sure you cant find it. Prove me wrong.

Sweetnecta:

@Overhaul: « #21 on: Today at 10:01:11 PM »Start with the accusation of Jeremiah on the Scribes and their lying pen.

The go to www.leveltruth.com

Thank you but no thank you. I'll pass the accusation of Jeremiah on the Scribes and their lying pen and www.leveltruth.com offer,
considering I suppose you believe the plaintiff is without any shred of blame on these or similar issues and is holier than the defendant

@Davidylan: « #24 on: Today at 10:16:06 PM »
[Quote]Quote from: Sweetnecta on Today at 10:13:54 PM
I thought Yahweh or Jehovah sent Old Testament down to Moses, from it lies the 10 Commandments? But Jeremiah says how can we be wise [meaning they are foolish] the pen of the scribes have lied [doctoring Old Testament]? Further it is the same OT laws and Prophets that Jesus said must not be abolished, and I am certain you have abolished one of the 10 Commandments because Paul told you that the one you have abolished has been nailed on the cross along with the accursed soul of Jesus, freeing you from all the laws? Tell us how the OT and NT sent to Yahweh's elects are not bastardized by the lying pen of Paul?

but i thot lagoshia said the injeel was preserved in the quran. Where is it?  Grin did the pen of the scribes get there too?[/Quote]Surah Saffa verse 6. Read it.



@frosbel (m) « #25 on: Today at 10:17:41 PM »
[Quote]Fellow TRUE Christians,[/Quote]I am certain Jesus son of Mary is not a member of this group. Guaranteed. Yet you have a religion different from the one you claim to follow? What was his religion? What was the religion of Abraham? What was the religion of Noah? Do they have different religions?



[Quote]There is always more that can be said to refute the claims of a Muslim in a debate, and the unfortunate reality is that to refute an unfounded claim takes 50 times more work than it takes for the other side to regurgitate mantra. Of course, once you do, they simply change the subject and/or attack you, your beliefs, and/or your country.

You can't blame them. They obviously have no basis for their beliefs other than they are told this is what they are to believe. And since they are creatures of thoughtless obedience, they have no abilities nor desire to use rational thought and logic to formulate a response on their own. Therefore they have no choice but to change the subject once you refute the lines that they have in their script.[/Quote]The video posted before has a different opinion. If you didn't see it, here is it, again:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMi_-xqhBYw&feature=related



[Quote]The message in the Qur'an is in every way in direct opposition to Yahweh's Scripture, the most glaring of which is the fact that Yahweh's description of Heaven is simply existing with Him, and Hell is simply existing separated from Him. In Islam, Heaven is obviously defined as something rather embarrassing and morally depraved. But that is nothing compared to the stark contrast of Hell. Islam graphically depicts Hell as consisting of eternal physical torture that is personally metered out by Allah![/Quote]If you mean Yahweh's scripture is The Bible, please tell me the name of the prophet it was given? I wonder if the writer knows that there are 7 heavens? Which one of them Yahweh resides, since he needed rest on sabbath?



[Quote]The reasons why there is so much of the Torah and Gospels in the Qur'an is that Muhammad was woefully mentally incapable of contriving the religious base that he needed to pull off his scheme, so he had to pay Rabbis to get the background and foundations he required to pull off his business plan to gain power, money, and sex. This information comes directly from Islam's own scriptures, by the way.[/Quote]And no rabbi used this woeful allegation against him as he corrected them and told both Jews and Christians along with the pagans that Islam is the only way? You know the jews will tell on you in the appropriate time as they did on Yasser Arafat? Why didn't the jews release this secret to the pagan Arabs to use it against Muhammad [as]? And what Islamic source are you referring to? Allegation without proof is different from facts that Muslims draw out of the Bibles.

Sweetnecta:

@Davidylan: « #24 on: Today at 10:16:06 PM »Surah Saffa verse 6. Read it.

[Saffat 37:6] We have indeed adorned the lowest heaven with stars as ornaments.

This is the entire injeel that allah sent down?  allah gat jokes dude. Either that or you dont even know your own quran.

@Overhaul; « #28 on: Today at 10:33:17 PM »
[Quote]Quote from: Sweetnecta on Today at 10:18:27 PM
@Overhaul: « #21 on: Today at 10:01:11 PM »Start with the accusation of Jeremiah on the Scribes and their lying pen.

The go to www.leveltruth.com

Thank you but no thank you. I'll pass the accusation of Jeremiah on the Scribes and their lying pen and www.leveltruth.com offer,
considering I suppose you believe the plaintiff is without any shred of blame on these or similar issues and is holier than the defendant[/Quote]Suit yourself. You want proof. That was a proof. A beginning for you to discover the hidden treasures.

I wonder how sincere you were when you asked?


@Davidylan: Surah As Saf 61 verse 6:
And [mention] when Jesus, the son of Mary, said, "O children of Israel, indeed I am the messenger of Allah to you confirming what came before me of the Torah and bringing good tidings of a messenger to come after me, whose name is Ahmad." But when he came to them with clear evidences, they said, "This is obvious magic."