rabzy:

It depends on who you refer to as the Hebrews. Abraham and his household were the first to be referred to as the hebrews and Abraham never worshipped any pagan god. He worshipped only one God Yahweh.

The father of Abraham Terah and possibly some of his ancestors after Shem, worshipped pagan gods, but they were from the sumerian/babylonish extraction. They worship principally Nama/Sin which was a moon-god. Dagon is a fish-god and its associated with the philistines and baal is said to be the son of dagan.

It was the corrupted Israelites that later worshipped baal and possibly dagon.

PAGAN 9JA:



EXACTLY! you just PROVED my point!

Even Abrahams parents worshipped Pagan Gods!


THE WHOLE WORLD WAS PAGAN AND WILL BECOME PAGAN IN THE FURTURE!

awo E: Aboru, aboye

I am a white man who lives in the United States. I was raised Christian, and many of my ancestors where Christian.

One of the tenants of Christianity is that only God in heaven should judge. Colossians 2:16 says, "Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival..."; Matthew 7:1 says, "Do not judge, or you too will be judged"; Luke 6:37 says, "Do not judge, and you will not be judged"; Jesus said to the judgmental crowd in Matthew 7:4, "How can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' when all the time there is a log in your own eye?" Let us not pass false judgment on traditional religions, let us not pass judgment on those who use traditional religions as a way of working with God.

My own journey has led me to Ifa. Ifa is a very powerful, intelligent, beautiful way of being in close alignment with God. I was actually initiated into an Afa lineage that extended from Togo, and have been studying Ifa using traditional Yoruba techniques. Because I cannot speak fluent Yoruba and have not found an Afa teacher willing to teach, my Ifa teachers have been kind enough to translate Odu verses into the language that I know, and it is these that I am drawing my studies from. Yes, Afa and Ifa have many similarities, the most obvious is that they both extend directly from God. There are differences in the medicines, differences in how each Odu is handled. The Yoruba version has kept more stories relating to the history and divinities specific to Yoruba cultural history, and the Afa's medicines are related directly to the cultural history and the divinities of the peoples who practice. The energy of Ifa/Afa is the same, it is a connection directly to Heaven, directly to the source of everything.

Christianity and Islam have their strengths. Anything that keeps people acting with good character is a good thing. Any practice that keeps people getting along well and respecting their fellow people is a good practice, we are all the creations of God and we all deserve to be able to claim our blessings. It is good that there are many ways to be, many cultures, many paths. This is the way that God has made it, this is the way that it should be.

May God continue to shower infinite blessings upon all of us.

Chyz*:


Edo will NEVER be yoruba anything!

How did Anioma, Urhobo, Isoko, Bini, Esan,Etsako because Yoruba? lol. . .

Yoruba have even gone as far as to start there history based on the coming of an Edo man, Oduduwa. Can you tell me the meaning of Oduduwa in your language? I can in mine.

Ifa-Olokun:
Negro-ntns, amor4ce, Pagan-9ja, Shymmex, Rabzy, you are all wonderful in your submissions and may Ifa gbe gbogbo yin o. I came on nairaland to see what wonderful work you guys have put together and I pray that at some point this will metamorphosize into some Physical gatherings to celebrate our lost religion.

Please Gentlemen, I would like you to stay in touch on this platform, because you have given opportunity for someone like me and several others to learn where they come from and who they really are in a mature, constructive and engaging manner devoid of abuses, curses or lacking intellect. You are truly Omo-Okos.

amor4ce can you get us Negro-tns - he needs to enlighten all of us more on even various aspects of our culture, so that Ise se wa ko ni parun.

Ifa agbe gbogbo wa o, amin, ase edumare !

PeterKbaba: Su-Dan
Iba-Dan
Ibi ti Dan ti ba
Were the Tribe of Dan was Sheltered
Therefore, the Tribe of Dan reside among the OYO's and also Su-Dan
After leaving Egypt, Some of the Tribes of Dan resided at a location the named Su-Dan and the rest came with the other tribes of Israel to ile ife. Oranmiyan was the Oba (King) that lead some tribes to present day Oyo ile, were the rest of the Tribe of Dan choose the location called Ibadan to reside, under the ruler ship of Oba Oranmiyan.

macof:

You bastard Jewish slave, don't come to this beautiful thread to derail or distort Yoruba history.

macof:

May Sango strike u for spreading conscious lies.
Ibadan is pronounced = "ee bah dor n" in most Yoruba dialets
Ibadan= Ilu Eba-Odan= meaning the city junction of Forest and Savanna

Was founded by Lagelu, the commander of Ife army.

at that time Lagelu was the most respected warrior in his city and it's surroundings.

He successfully led his disciples from Ijebu, Oyo and Ife to The new land

An incident happened in Eba-Odan during the Egungun festival, And Lord Sango ordered the destruction of Eba-Odan

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibadan


Oyo was founded by Oranmiyan the Great prince of Ife, after he came back from Benin.

Yoruba have nothing to do with Dan or Judah tribe of Israel. You bastard Jewish slave, don't come to this beautiful thread to derail or distort Yoruba history.

PeterKbaba:




You sound like a tout... Is it too hard to explain without insult, am I not entitled to my own opinion... Pls act civilized as we omoluabi are known to be next time and stop this you your madness.
I'm Yoruba
If sango was to strike anyone, it should have been those that enslaved and colonized you, but he chose to allow them.
Spit on your dirty face and dirty atitude macof

macof:

Try spreading lies about the Yoruba next time and I swear to Ori I'll curse u

Bastard jewish slave

PeterKbaba:

I don't have time sharing words with a nonentity like you macof or whatever you call yourself. You sound like a rejected drunk tout. Act civil next time ok, if truly you re a Yoruba born. This is my last warning to you swine.

Don't derail the thread, it's obvious pe Ori e ko pe. Omo jati jati oshi

Chyz2:

Stop adding Edo. Speak for your own people. Its funny how you say that the people called "Yoruba" today dont know their own history but you do,lol. I guess you are the progenitor. Yorubas were never one. Dont you forget that. Yoruba is not a race and never will be one. It's also a shame how you regard a sultan of sokoto's words of orgination of some of your people and rubbish the beliefs of orgination that your people came up with. Sounds like an inferiority complex to me. A fulani man knows "your" history better than you.In fact, you might as well say he knows your history and you dont.

NegroNtns: You said my claim that "early Bini kings were buried in Ife" was a lie.

So I'm asking you that if that was a lie, how would you classify the claim that "early Lagos kings were buried in Bini"?

NegroNtns: The Yoruba in Nigeria is a commonwealth of Nations. A race of people with roots in Afro Asia.

Ijesha, Awori, Egba, Edo, Itsekiri.

Yoruba is the umbrella or the aggregator of the different nations.

There are also others in Yorubaland who are of indigenous roots but trhough war and conquest became tributaries of Yorubaland.

The Yorubas of today contain the nations of Egba, Ijebu, Itsekiri, Edo, Ajashe, Ilaje, Ijesha, and so on.

For example, the Ijebus are Canaanites of old. The Edos are also Canaanites. The Oyos are Kushites of Old and so is Ife the Kushites of old.

There are several independent researchers, none of them with any personal interest in Yoruba who have clearly said that Yoruba is an Afro Asia root. Even a former Caliph (Sultan) of Sokoto even wrote a book in which he clarified it.

You are correct there are many Yorubas who do not know the history and need to know. So I'm glad that they are here to learn it.