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Re: My Greatest Sexual Temptation As A Christian by Kobojunkie: 9:05pm On Sep 25, 2022 |
Batam:Perfection? Look, even atheists consider self-discipline a sign of respect for self and for others. If you who claim to be a Christian have not even figured out this basic thing that those outside of God have, what is the worth of your claim to be of Jesus Christ to anyone of them? 1 Like |
Re: My Greatest Sexual Temptation As A Christian by Nobody: 9:33pm On Sep 25, 2022 |
Kobojunkie:I still put it to when it comes to sexual temptation self-discipline is not enough without fleeing |
Re: My Greatest Sexual Temptation As A Christian by Bluntdrey(m): 9:39pm On Sep 25, 2022 |
Well, I have been reading many comments on this topic called sex immortality. The truth is that when you see yourself not falling in for such temptation, it is not by your own power, it's simply by His Grace. All the people that were mentioned to have fallen for sexual immorality, e.g King David and the rest, do we even boarder to ask the reason why they fell? When a child of God doesn't listen to his Father, he or she is opened to temptation and might fall. Let me quickly open our minds to something very important. Our heart should always be the sit of righteousness and we must guide it jealously. The devil doesn't have power over your heart but what he does is to seek for your permission by putting evil taughts into your heart and once granted, he doesn't waste time to make you fall. God gave David instructions in 2samuel 11 vs 1 - 27 but David didn't follow God's instruction and the devil sow a seed of unrighteousness into his heart and he fell for it. David was supposed to be at the battle field but instead he was walking majestically on the rooftop and even after seeing that woman (Bathsheba) bathing, he has enough time to kill the evil taught the devil put to him but he didn't. Children of God must daily kill the flesh and make the spirit to be alive if you want to overcome sexual immorality. Flee from distance and take the taught into captivity when it comes your way. 2corintians 10:5. Lastly, we have all gone astray sometimes past but thanks to God who has saved us through the blood of His Son Jesus and has bring us into the marvelous light of His Son. Colossians 1:13. Tell yourself you can no lony do this anymore because: Hebrews 10:26-27 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. Remember, the grace of yesterday is not enough to run today's race. Workout your salvation with Christ Jesus on daily basis. God bless us all. 1 Like |
Re: My Greatest Sexual Temptation As A Christian by Kobojunkie: 9:47pm On Sep 25, 2022 |
Batam:Again, Self-discipline refers to the ability to control one's feelings and overcome one's weaknesses; the ability to pursue what one thinks is right despite temptations to abandon it. 1 Like |
Re: My Greatest Sexual Temptation As A Christian by razible5384(m): 10:04pm On Sep 25, 2022 |
olisaEze:you're very right bro an I really admire your command if English. He's just an hypocrite. Pls who are the other two persons God revered to as his friends? 1 Like |
Re: My Greatest Sexual Temptation As A Christian by Lannister360: 11:21pm On Sep 25, 2022 |
IrepChrist:Look OP, it's not an archievement, I've had an encounter like that severally, 2 while in school and about 8 times during NYSC, some of them were even touching me at night but I refused, and some even cried, trying to emotionally blackmail me to give in but I nor reason them, I'm not much of a Christian, I do go to church once in a while but not a fire brigade Christian like you, I have my own reasons for staying like this. |
Re: My Greatest Sexual Temptation As A Christian by Kobojunkie: 12:20am On Sep 26, 2022 |
Lannister360:The situation among those who claim to be Christians where ordinary sexual discipline is concerned is really appalling. |
Re: My Greatest Sexual Temptation As A Christian by olisaEze(m): 1:38am On Sep 26, 2022 |
razible5384: Enoch & Abraham. |
Re: My Greatest Sexual Temptation As A Christian by dattaswami1: 2:39am On Sep 26, 2022 |
IrepChrist: There are three stages in the spiritual development of any human being in this world. They are duṣpravṛtti(doing bad deeds), pravṛtti(doing justice), and nivṛtti(complete love and surrender to God). They are related to a person’s fascination (overattachment or Moha) to worldly bonds. The three main worldly bonds of a soul are the bond with money, the bond with one’s life-partner and the bond with one’s child. A limited attachment to these worldly bonds is acceptable as long as it does not cross the boundaries of justice. Excessive attachment to these bonds causes the soul to commit injustice. Duṣpravṛtti is the lowest stage in which the soul is completely affected by the six vices. The six vices are lust, anger, greed, overattachment, ego, and jealousy. Such souls always support injustice and are severely punished by God here as well as after death in hell. They are attached to illegitimate worldly bonds and they often neglect or even cause harm to their legitimate bonds. In other words, they engage in illegitimate relations and illegitimate ways of earning money. Pravṛtti is the middle stage in which the soul possesses good qualities and always supports justice. Such a soul is blessed by God with happiness here and happiness in heaven after death. This soul rejects illegitimate bonds while maintaining a limited attachment to the legitimate bonds. Nivṛtti is the stage in which the soul is completely filled with the real love for God. Such a soul goes beyond justice and injustice. This soul rejects all worldly bonds, both legitimate and illegitimate, and is totally fascinated with having a single bond with God (Ekabhaktirviśiṣyate—Gita). In this stage, all the worldly bonds drop off naturally, as a result of the divine bond to God. There is not the slightest force involved in this detachment from worldly bonds. Nivṛtti means total detachment since all worldly bonds are totally dropped in this stage. If a person leaves his lawful wife due to his attraction for a prostitute, he is on the downward journey from pravṛtti to duṣpravṛtti. If a person leaves his lawful wife due to his attraction for God, he is on the upward journey from pravṛtti to nivṛtti. A soul starting from the lowest stage of duṣpravṛtti must first reach the middle stage of pravṛtti before proceeding to nivṛtti. The first part of the journey, from duṣpravṛtti to pravṛtti, is described in the Rāmāyaṇam and the Mahābhāratam. The second part of the journey, from pravṛtti to nivṛtti, is described in the Bhāgavatam. The Bhagavat Gita speaks about both these parts of the journey in both the upward and downward directions. Hence, it is recognized as the total authority for both ethical knowledge (pravṛtti) as well as spiritual knowledge (nivṛtti). True Nivṛtti Nivṛtti does not mean the dropping of all bonds since the mind cannot remain without any bond. Nivṛtti means the natural dropping off of all worldly bonds due to the formation of a single, extremely strong bond with God. If the mind is forced to not have any bond, it is both unnatural and impossible. A person’s soul is awareness and the thoughts and qualities in the awareness are the mind. The mind naturally seeks objects and develops bonds. Forcing the mind to be without bonds or thoughts is forcing oneself to become inert, like a stone. It is a pity that Advaita philosophers take a lot of effort to attain this unnatural forced state. They try to drop all their worldly bonds, feeling that the world is unreal and illusory. If all the worldly bonds drop off naturally due to the strong bond with God, then that state is correct. But these Advaitins do not have any bond with God because they feel that they are already God. Having a bond with oneself is meaningless! They neither have a bond with God nor do they have a bond with the world. This is a forced state of the mind which they call as the state of Advaita or monism. But unfortunately, it is neither the true state of monism nor can it be sustained for a long time. The Advaita philosopher Totāpuri criticized Shri Ramakrishna Paramahamsa for His inability to reach this forced state of ‘monism’. Later, one day, Totāpuri developed a severe stomach-ache. It was so unbearable that he even tried to end his life. But even that failed. Then, the universal Divine Mother appeared to him and preached to him the path of devotion to God, which is based on the fundamental dualism between God and the soul. It was the path that Shri Ramakrishna Paramahamsa had followed all along. Hence, in all the three stages of duṣpravṛtti, pravṛtti, and nivṛtti, the soul always remains in a state of dualism with God. It cannot reach the state of God in which this world becomes unreal to the soul. Therefore, nivṛtti does not simply mean the dropping of all bonds. It only means the dropping of all worldly bonds due to the formation of a very strong bond with God, which is based on a fundamental dualism between God and the soul. From the angle of the soul, this fundamental dualism alone is true at all times. Monism is true only from the angle of the absolute God. Overcoming the Six Vices in the Journey Duṣpravṛtti is the result of the attachment to illegitimate sex (kāma), illegitimate anger (krodha) and illegitimate greed (lobha). The three are said to be the three main gates to hell in the Gita. Naturally, pravṛtti means rejecting the above three vices and adopting the opposite good qualities, which are legitimate sex, legitimate anger, and legitimate greed. Overattachment (moha) to illegitimate worldly bonds leads to duṣpravṛtti while limited attachment to legitimate worldly bonds leads to pravṛtti. Excessive attachment even to the legitimate worldly bonds is a danger because it provokes the soul to commit sins. The attachment to legitimate worldly bonds can be reduced by developing attachment to God. The attachment to illegitimate worldly bonds can be completely eliminated with a combination of the fear of hell and the faith in God. Faith in God, the fear of hell and the development of devotion to God together completely reform the soul. The soul then rises from the first stage of duṣpravṛtti, through the middle state of pravṛtti, all the way to the third stage of nivṛtti. The last three vices are illegitimate attachment (moha), ego (mada) and jealousy (mātsarya). They automatically get associated with the first three vices which are illegitimate lust, anger and greed. Moha is the overattachment towards worldly bonds. But the worldly bonds are related to lust and greed. So, overattachment is related to lust and greed. Similarly, one develops pride or ego due to materialistic achievements, which are related to greed. One also develops jealousy (mātsarya) towards fellow humans based on their worldly achievements. So, the last three vices are based on the first three vices. Therefore, only the first three are stressed in the Gita as the three main gates to hell. |
Re: My Greatest Sexual Temptation As A Christian by razible5384(m): 6:29am On Sep 26, 2022 |
olisaEze:thanks man 1 Like |
Re: My Greatest Sexual Temptation As A Christian by Bfly: 8:41am On Sep 26, 2022 |
bitbillionaire: A woman does not have the capacity to bear fruit. She is just like a pod housing the seed till maturity. As almost every pod is discarded so also is a woman discarded in form of placenta The real fruit comes from the man. But that creature wey fit bleed for 5days and live get one strong head sha. Den go always dey collect |
Re: My Greatest Sexual Temptation As A Christian by Onmyrise: 1:04pm On Sep 26, 2022 |
Kobojunkie: And who do they believe in? |
Re: My Greatest Sexual Temptation As A Christian by Onmyrise: 1:08pm On Sep 26, 2022 |
Kobojunkie: You must have attained a high level of chastity.. |
Re: My Greatest Sexual Temptation As A Christian by Onmyrise: 1:18pm On Sep 26, 2022 |
Dtruthspeaker: You need to put your brain more to use, go further, study and meditate, so you can flush out very silly concepts from the den of your mind, unfounded concepts that only portray stark ignorance. |
Re: My Greatest Sexual Temptation As A Christian by Dtruthspeaker: 1:26pm On Sep 26, 2022 |
Onmyrise: He who walks with his eyes closed will always kick buckets, crash into walls and fall into a pit. |
Re: My Greatest Sexual Temptation As A Christian by Onmyrise: 1:32pm On Sep 26, 2022 |
Dtruthspeaker: Notable words of an intransigent megalomaniac.. |
Re: My Greatest Sexual Temptation As A Christian by Odebayo4010(m): 1:32pm On Sep 26, 2022 |
Dtruthspeaker: Let me help you to read the verse; For there is no faithfulness in their mouth; their inward part is very wickedness; their throat is an open sepulchre; they flatter with their tongue. |
Re: My Greatest Sexual Temptation As A Christian by Kobojunkie: 2:11pm On Sep 26, 2022 |
Onmyrise:High level of chastity? See all the tags una dey accord common self-discipline abeg! |
Re: My Greatest Sexual Temptation As A Christian by Kobojunkie: 2:14pm On Sep 26, 2022 |
Onmyrise:Ask them! Look, in developed countries , self-discipline, even of the sexual kind is regarded as common sense, and those who lack it are treated as if mentally disturbed. Seems Nigeria has a long way to go where commonsense aka wisdom is concerned. 1 Like |
Re: My Greatest Sexual Temptation As A Christian by Dtruthspeaker: 2:15pm On Sep 26, 2022 |
Odebayo4010: Thank you brother! And they have 2 or even 3 Mouths with which they are now using to swallow men up exactly as graves (sepulchre) |
Re: My Greatest Sexual Temptation As A Christian by Dtruthspeaker: 2:28pm On Sep 26, 2022 |
lendahand: You have simply identified those women who got the notice of The Lord AND NONE OF THEM MURDERED (WH.ORE) ANY MAN BY SEX (OF COURSE EXCLUDING RAHAB AND MAGDALENE. AND IN THE CASE OF MAGDALENE, WE SEE THAT SHE STOPPED HOREING AND PROSTITUTING. WE DO NOT KNOW THE END OF RAHAB) So, you have nothing. |
Re: My Greatest Sexual Temptation As A Christian by Dtruthspeaker: 2:31pm On Sep 26, 2022 |
Patokens: Then your Bible does not have Proverbs chapter 2 to Chapter 9 or you have refused to read that part of the Bible and understand them. |
Re: My Greatest Sexual Temptation As A Christian by Dtruthspeaker: 2:41pm On Sep 26, 2022 |
Bfly: Adam was not a murderer, then obviously Cain, the murderer was not his Seed. So, which murderer had sex with former Mrs Adam to cause her to born Cain? Satan is already known for Steal - which is a type of Murder. Kill - Murder itself. Destroy - Murder itself. |
Re: My Greatest Sexual Temptation As A Christian by Kobojunkie: 2:52pm On Sep 26, 2022 |
Bfly:That isn't particularly true. That is instead an assumption on your part. Sooner or later, you will find this out when you begin to see babies born without a sperm-donor in the picture. 1 Like |
Re: My Greatest Sexual Temptation As A Christian by Bfly: 6:15pm On Sep 26, 2022 |
Dtruthspeaker: Adam might not be a murderer in the real sense but he became evil through the forbidden fruit, so also are his seeds; Cain and all. Murder is another kind of evil. Everyone has manifested evil one way or the other. Satan could not find evil in Jesus because Jesus didn't come through the propagation of Adam. |
Re: My Greatest Sexual Temptation As A Christian by Bfly: 6:33pm On Sep 26, 2022 |
Kobojunkie: Ok o. Mind you, it could be easier to have artifical womb to develop babies than to have Artifical Sperm. And Also, most of these discoveries are pioneered by dudes. Anyways, By the time we start moving to Mars. All the women will be left behind and would not be allowed to stock sperm. Tell this to ladies around you. |
Re: My Greatest Sexual Temptation As A Christian by Bfly: 6:33pm On Sep 26, 2022 |
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Re: My Greatest Sexual Temptation As A Christian by Kobojunkie: 6:34pm On Sep 26, 2022 |
Bfly: Again... That isn't particularly true. That is instead an assumption on your part. Sooner or later, you will find this out when you begin to see babies born without a sperm-donor in the picture. 1 Like |
Re: My Greatest Sexual Temptation As A Christian by Dtruthspeaker: 7:17pm On Sep 26, 2022 |
Bfly: This is where "by their fruits ye shall know them" bites you. A murderer shall always murder and Adam never murdered. But look at the fruits of Cain, he murdered 1, his grandson murdered 11 and was the first person (in following his grandfather Cain, at being the first person to do something that has never been done) to claim 2 Wives in further rebellion to God's one man, one wife which everyone was obeying except him, the son of rebellion and disobedience. His fruits, prove his father. Bfly: There was no evil to find in Mr and Mrs Adam when he attacked them with temptations exactly as he did to Jesus Christ. |
Re: My Greatest Sexual Temptation As A Christian by Dtruthspeaker: 8:06pm On Sep 26, 2022 |
Danniedpastor: Danniedpastor(m): 2:30pm On Sep 25 Danniedpastor: ...Which Bible did you see this trash? Answer Mathew 7:16-20 is The Law. Grape Tree cannot born Sweet Mango. |
Re: My Greatest Sexual Temptation As A Christian by Bfly: 8:52pm On Sep 26, 2022 |
Adam passed evil to everyone in which murder is a kind. Cain was just unlucky to be the first perpetrator of murder on earth. There was first rapist; another evil, there was another who slept with his dad wife, there was Moses who also committed murder. W'all are evil as a result of Adam. Tell us the murder cases of Cain sons before that of his grandson since they must also manifest murder. Dtruthspeaker: There was no evil in Mr. Adam until after devouring the forbidden fruit. Adam lived in the garden alone without problem seeing the forbidden fruit for many years until God decided to make him a help mate inform of Mrs Adam. Women could be as a doorway for Satan. There is something about that creature. Satan is mostly aware of their frailty Jesus is aware of the existence of satan, judgement and reasons. He grew from the womb. |
Re: My Greatest Sexual Temptation As A Christian by Dtruthspeaker: 9:58pm On Sep 26, 2022 |
Bfly: Wrong! He did not pass evil. He passed the ability of differentiating something that is evil from something that is not evil. And knowing the difference between things is not a crime. The crime is always in the doing aka didding aka deeding! |
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