He is equal to God but Jesus does not emphasis his equality, its humans with their sense of pride that keep arguing about it.

There is a passage in the bible that explains it a bit, let me paste it.

found it

Philippians 2:6

6 Who, being in very nature God,
did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage;

Jesus did not boast about it, although he is God. That is not his work, he came to do the work the father sent him to do. and that is

For God so loved the world, that whosoever believes in him should not perish but have everlasting life. For its God will that the Son of God should raise the fruits of the earth on the last days.

Michael548:

But the Trinity doctrine does not accept your explanation. The Trinity doctrine teaches that Jesus is inseparable and equal to God.

There's only one God species which contains father Son and holy spirit and there's no any other. That's just what trinity mean

Michael548:

Does that mean equality or unity?

It means unity.

SeriouslySense:
He is equal to God but Jesus does not emphasis his equality, its humans with their sense of pride that keep arguing about it.

There is a passage in the bible that explains it a bit, let me paste it.

found it

Philippians 2:6

6 Who, being in very nature[a] God,
did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage;

So if he is equal to God, How can God be greater than him? I think it sounds contradictory.

One of the great controversies in Christendom till date, the Unitarians and Puritans rejected the view altogether, till date the Jehovah Witnesses maintain zero tolerance to it.

Let be honest with ourselves, a person reading the Christian holy book for the first time from Genesis to Revelation and maybe by chance stumble upon the Apocrypha will be scratching their heads on how the the idea of Trinity found a place in Christendom.

NamelessOGBENI:
One of the great controversies in Christendom till date, the Unitarians and Puritans rejected the view altogether, till date the Jehovah Witnesses maintain zero tolerance to it.

Let be honest with ourselves, a person reading the Christian holy book for the first time from Genesis to Revelation and maybe by chance stumble upon the Apocrypha will be scratching their heads on how the the idea of Trinity found a place in Christendom.

Very correct

Jokanem:
Is God a Trinity?

Many Christian denominations teach that God is a Trinity. However, note what the Encyclopædia Britannica states: “Neither the word Trinity nor the explicit doctrine appears in the New Testament . . . The doctrine developed gradually over several centuries and through many controversies.”

In fact, the God of the Bible is never described as being part of a Trinity. Note these Bible passages:

“Jehovah our God is one Jehovah.”—Deuteronomy 6:4.

“You, whose name is Jehovah, you alone are the Most High over all the earth.”—Psalm 83:18.

“This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ.”—John 17:3.

“God is only one.”—Galatians 3:20.

Why do most Christian denominations say that God is a Trinity?

There's only one God species which contains father Son and holy spirit and there's no any other. That's just what trinity mean
Matt. 28 Verses 18 to 20
[19] Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: [20] Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

In terms of Office and work, God the father over sees the events of time.

The bible also says, God spoke, Inspiring his truth through David. when David said, the Lord said to my Lord, sit until i make your enemies your foot-stool ( i probably did not remember the exact quote, so i may have quoted with error). Jesus spoke to the Jews, about this passage, they did not understand that the Lord who sits is Jesus, who was standing in front of them. After the ascension of Jesus, he sat at the right hand of the Father, and the father oversees the events of time, and all things are working according to his plan.

Therefore the Father has a greater office than Jesus, but Jesus is equal to God the father, he could do anything God can do.

But The office of God the Son, is to do the will of God, and who is called a mighty God, a prince of peace, a son of man to the human race, by adding the nature of flesh, he can save the human race, expressing God love and his will for his creation.

Michael548:

So if he is equal to God, How can God be greater than him? I think it sounds contradictory.

SeriouslySense:
In terms of Office and work, God the father over sees the events of time.

The bible also says, God spoke, Inspiring his truth through David. when David said, the Lord said to my Lord, sit until i make your enemies your foot-stool. Jesus spoke to the Jews, about this passage, they did not understand that the Lord who sits is Jesus, who was standing in front of them. After the ascension of Jesus, he sat at the right hand of the Father, and the father oversees the events of time, and all things are working according to his plan.

Therefore the Father has a greater office than Jesus, but Jesus is equal to God the father, he could do anything God can do.

Does this explanation suggest that The father and the Son are seperate persons which is against the Trinity doctrine?
If Jesus can do anything that God can do, how do we explain Matthew 24:36?

Does not contradict, If Jesus decided to lower himself, even lower than the angels. Same Jesus allowed John the Baptist to baptize him, to fulfill the will of God. Notice Jesus always lowers himself since its needed to do so, in order to fulfill the will of God.

Matthew 24:36
The Day and Hour Unknown
36 “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son,[a] but only the Father.

Michael548:

Does this explanation suggest that The father and the Son are seperate persons which is against the Trinity doctrine?
If Jesus can do anything that God can do, how do we explain Matthew 24:36?

SeriouslySense:
Does not contradict, If Jesus decided to lower himself, even lower than the angels. Same Jesus allowed John the Baptist to baptize him, to fulfill the will of God. Notice Jesus always lowers himself since its needed to do so, in order to fulfill the will of God.

Matthew 24:36
The Day and Hour Unknown
36 “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son,[a] but only the Father.

So are you saying that Jesus and father are separate?

Jokanem:
Is God a Trinity?

Many Christian denominations teach that God is a Trinity. However, note what the Encyclopædia Britannica states: “Neither the word Trinity nor the explicit doctrine appears in the New Testament . . . The doctrine developed gradually over several centuries and through many controversies.”

In fact, the God of the Bible is never described as being part of a Trinity. Note these Bible passages:

“Jehovah our God is one Jehovah.”—Deuteronomy 6:4.

“You, whose name is Jehovah, you alone are the Most High over all the earth.”—Psalm 83:18.

“This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ.”—John 17:3.

“God is only one.”—Galatians 3:20.

Why do most Christian denominations say that God is a Trinity?

Yes It's 3in1


God Created the heavens and the earth, while the Holy Spirit was hovering over the remains of The 1st earth.

Further up in the Bible, in Proverbs, Jesus says he was there, standing by the Father as he started creating the present Earth.


Tower of Babel, the 'us' shows it is more than just one person in dialogue.


Jesus Baptism:

He is getting baptized by John. Holy Spirit descending like a dove. God's voice loud from heaven


Three in 1.

I do not know everything, and deciding what God is, is not in my knowledge and authority. What i know is that I greatly rejoice for the salvation of God, through Jesus i am saved and only through Jesus can we find God.

Its not a science, its a journey, and although i do not know God perfectly, i trust completely in his perfect will.

Michael548:

So are you saying that Jesus and father are separate?

SeriouslySense:
I do not know everything, and deciding what God is, is not in my knowledge and authority. What i know is that I greatly rejoice for the salvation of God, through Jesus i am saved and only through Jesus can we find God.

Alright. Thanks for your honest submission. But I could explain more to you. You Can chat me up on 08167469103

You are welcome. Do not worry, I have what i need, the Spirit of God is with his children and he gives all the assurance we need, and if we are seeking we can always ask and his Spirit will reply accordingly. What i need is to trust God, so i obey his commandments.

Michael548:

Alright. Thanks for your honest submission. But I could explain more to you. You Can chat me up on 08167469103

DeOTR:

See this gibberish you just typed up there!
God is not 3 in 1. God is one and Jesus is not God. He's the Son of God.
Jesus said He came out from the Father. He also said he from the Father and will return to Him. If it's not absurd to you that someone would come out of himself or return to Himself, I don't know how to to explain common sense to you.
And no, humans are not body soul and spirit.
The Bible said we were formed from the dust and God breathed into us and we were made a living soul.
Bible never mentioned we were given a soul. The breath of God made us a living soul. And what happens at death when God's breath leaves us? We go back to dust. That's common sense and it's simple as that.
There's God the Father and Jesus is His Son because He came out from Him. That doesn't make Jesus any less than His Father. Let's be guided.

Then if u are serious about Jesus being THE SON OF GOD then how can Jesus not be God? Since everything gives birth to its own kind? That already means there the two GODs, father and son

The Trinity is biblical truth.

Listen to these sermons:

The Trinity in the Old Testament:

https://audiomack.com/newdejix/song/the-trinity-in-the-old-testament

Jesus Christ is our Great God and Savior:

https://audiomack.com/newdejix/song/our-great-god-and-savior-jesus-christ

For more on the Trinity and similar truths, email: newdejix@gmail.com

SeriouslySense:
You are welcome. Do not worry, I have what i need, the Spirit of God is with his children and he gives all the assurance we need, and if we are seeking we can always ask and his Spirit will reply accordingly. What i need is to trust God, so i obey his commandments.

But don't you think the questions I raised needs answers? Incase you were asked by someone else?
Remember the bible says that iron sharpens iron Proverbs 27:17

Michael548:

So are you saying that Jesus and father are separate?

Please enlightened me were they not separate when Jesus was baptized, the father spoke from heaven and the holy spirit decent as a dove

Crosby24:

Please enlightened me were they not separate when Jesus was baptized, the father spoke in heaven and the holy spirit decent as a dove

If we say they are separate, then it would be against the Trinity doctrine that teaches that Jesus and the father are inseparable.

Crosby24:


There's only one God species which contains father Son and holy spirit and there's no any other. That's just what trinity mean
Matt. 28 Verses 18 to 20
[19] Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: [20] Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

How do we explain John 14:28

daveP:



Yes It's 3in1


God Created the heavens and the earth, while the Holy Spirit was hovering over the remains of The 1st earth.

Further up in the Bible, in Proverbs, Jesus says he was there, standing by the Father as he started creating the present Earth.


Tower of Babel, the 'us' shows it is more than just one person in dialogue.


Jesus Baptism:

He is getting baptized by John. Holy Spirit descending like a dove. God's voice loud from heaven


Three in 1.

How do we Explain John 14:28

God is the universe itself...

Michael548:

If we say they are separate, then it would be against the Trinity doctrine that teaches that Jesus and the father are inseparable.

That inseparable has a context,if you have a son can anything separate him been your blood?

ebbo:



You are confused.

Psalms 82:6 I have said, “You are gods,
and sons of the Most High, all of you.

Steep:

This is modalism, it is unbiblical.

Psalms 82:6 I have said, “You are gods,
and sons of the Most High, all of you.

Crosby24:

That inseparable has a context,if you have a son can anything separate him been your blood?

But is a Son and a father the same persons?

Michael548:

How do we explain John 14:28

Though you are flesh after your father did he take command from you or you take command from him?

Exodus15v11:
YES, He is.

How do we explain John 14:28

Crosby24:

Though you are flesh after your father did he take command from you or you take command from him?

I take command from him because he is greater than me and although he is my father, we are not the same person. We are separate.
The same applies to Jesus. John 14:28, 31

alizma:

As simple as the bible is to read, it takes wisdom to interpret it. In my culture if a king send his messenger to anyone and give his messenger his staff of authority to go with, the receiver of the message, on sighting the king staff will accord the messenger full respect as his will accord the king. In this example, does it mean we have two Kings no, do not get confused by the trinity,

But the Trinity teaches that Jesus and the Father are inseparable and equal. So what explanation do we give to that?

Michael548:

How do we Explain John 14:28

What about it? I see no ish with that or it's relation to subject matter. Help rephrase your question.