Maximus692:

Thanks for your time!

jesusjnr2020:
Are All Leaders Appointed By God?

Surely not, if we're to go by the teachings of Christ.

Matthew 15:13-14 (KJV)

But he answered and said, Every plant, which my heavenly Father hath not planted, shall be rooted up.
Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.

So if not all leaders in the House of God were appointed by God, how much more those of this world?

Hence the idea or teaching that all leaders were appointed by God is false and did not come from God. This was also corroborated by the Word of the Lord through the mouth of one of His prophets.

Hosea 8:4 (KJV)

They have set up kings, but not by me: they have made princes, and I knew it not: of their silver and their gold have they made them idols, that they may be cut off.

So although God appoints and raises leaders where need be and in accordance with His plan and divine arrangement concern mankind, not all leaders were appointed by God.

God bless.

Lukuluku69:

You are welcome while on failed and wrong expectations Mr. Akinwale

Maximus692:


As you think!

jesusjnr2020:
Are All Leaders Appointed By God?

Surely not, if we're to go by the teachings of Christ.

Matthew 15:13-14 (KJV)

But he answered and said, Every plant, which my heavenly Father hath not planted, shall be rooted up.
Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.

So if not all leaders in the House of God were appointed by God, how much more those of this world?

Hence the idea or teaching that all leaders were appointed by God is false and did not come from God. This was also corroborated by the Word of the Lord through the mouth of one of His prophets.

Hosea 8:4 (KJV)

They have set up kings, but not by me: they have made princes, and I knew it not: of their silver and their gold have they made them idols, that they may be cut off.

So although God appoints and raises leaders where need be and in accordance with His plan and divine arrangement concern mankind, not all leaders were appointed by God.

God bless.

Lukuluku69:

Not a "thinking" thing. My position is from a Knowing One.
You can know too when you explore Cultures, Faith and Civilizations that preceded that of the Children of Jacob as well as those that ran alongside. Then, you will realize that what 6iu call expectations, either wrong or right ones have always been with everyone. Running with the Jewish side of the story does not cut it in the grand scheme of thing Mr.Akinwale

Maximus692:


As you think!

God1000:
No, bad leaders are not appointed by God.

When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice: but people mourn when the wicked rule.

Lukuluku69:

Yeah.
Ignorance sometimes is Bliss

Maximus692:


Exactly even though worshipers are following leaders with weapons to kill one another yet the god they worship still sound makes sense to them!

Lukuluku69:

Exactly even worshIppers not following the words of whom they claim to follow by not carrying out his command for then to sell the clothes on their backs and go buy swords and even telling them to slaughter anyone who doesn't want his rule over them.
No be so?
I know you have a lot of time on your hands, find time and explore other Cultures and point of views too. That Millennia Reign BS was cribbed from the Persians.

Maximus692:


At least worshipers of the same God supposed not to raise weapons against themselves if the God they're worshiping is not insane!

Maximus692:


At least worshipers of the same God supposed not to raise weapons against themselves if the God they're worshiping is not insane!

Lukuluku69:

But they can go on a rampage against others? Prepare and arm themselves against others?
By the way, one of you went berserk in Germany some days ago. He took out 7 people of your sect with him. What went wrong?

Lukuluku69:

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2023/mar/10/hamburg-shooting-people-killed-jehovahs-witness-hall-say-police

Maximus692:
Read the story again, this is not about those WORSHIPING the same God picking up weapons against themselves unlike worshipers whose leaders will pray to the same God to support themselves in going to war against their fellow worshipers of the same God!

Lukuluku69:

When Jacob's sons sold one of their own into slavery, he was worshipping Ayelala?

Lukuluku69:

When David son rebelled and war against his father's Kingdom, he was a worshipper of Sango?

Lukuluku69:

I can give you hundreds of instances where worshippers of Jehovah were at each other's jugular.

Lukuluku69:

And coming to the incidents in Germany, your Sect must have damaged the guy that the only thing on his mind to kill some of you but fortunately for you, Dead man don't talk otherwise we would have heard his own side of the story.

Maximus692:

YES! those that sold Joseph weren't worshipers of Jehovah at that time!

YES! He was no longer a worshiper of Jehovah!

Yoy can't find just one unless you choose to deceive yourself!

For lifting up weapons against organized people he is no longer a worshiper of Jehovah!

This is not like your Allah where one organized group praying to Allah with a chief imam who believes in the central unit of control (Mecca) and the manual (Qu'ran) will pray to your God facing the Kabah and another chief imam who also believes in the same arrangement will be on opposing sides against one another to kill yourselves.

According to our own God we must obey His orders before picking up weapons and we must follow instructions on how to wage war otherwise we are on our own. Check all the instances you mentioned in the Bible and see if God's representatives are on both opposing sides. It's your Allah that can't explain what is happening to it's worshipers jehovah knows what goes wrong that's why He gives us specific instructions regarding wars.

Presently His Son has spoken and it's no more raising physical weapons against anyone. Matthew 5:43-48

So if you find anyone still carrying weapons against his or her fellowman today know that such individuals aren't worshiping Jehovah anymore!

Lukuluku69:

Show me where that is stated in the Bible or your Sect version of the Bible.
Mr. Akinwale you will never change. Never. The brainwash is 100%.

Maximus692:


If you're not deceiving yourself how can the children that brought sorrow to their father's heart be worshipers of their father's God?

Well their father Jacob is the one who is God's worshiper at that point in time his children must imitate his faith if they want to become worshipers of their father's God.

So because of their faithlessness they weren't worshipers of their father's God at that point in time not until they repented and brought Joy to their father's heart that's when they can be rightly called worshipers of the God of Jacob.

That's why the Bible never called any of them as worshiper of the same God with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Do you notice that the attachment ended with Jacob?

That's the secret, your own son who feels disgusts towards your God can't be a worshiper of your God but if he changes then your God will acknowledge him!

Padipadi:
Not all leaders.


Before your blood start getting hot and your brain start to malfunction, know that the op isn't targeting this msg to any political opponent. It's a neutral topic. Morseso, lots of Christians supported Jagaban. So pls, wear your brain cap.

AntiChristian:


So Paul lied?

Padipadi:

Paul didn't lie anywhere.
If you want to twist any bible part, it's better you post it. Maybe you are interested in studying BK.
Holla me when you are ready.

Lukuluku69:

And the endless tripe continues!!!!!
I reckon then that you have not seen where your Jehovah repeatedly call himself the God of Israel? If I may ask who is/are Israel? Jacob's Twelve Sons descendants!
And here you are saying Jehovah is not their God?
Can't you see that something is wrong with you? Can't you see that you don't think?

God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, does that excludes David, Solomon and Moses? Why are you lots (both mainstream and the Cultists) are forever this DUMB?

The fact that a child brought sorrow to his Parents, does that mean he doesn't worship Jehovah?

The Nation of Israel in the old brought sorrow to Jehovah, yet Jehovah stood with them, repeatedly call himself " God of Israel"

Why do you think like this? Why?

Maximus692:


Jacob is the man called Israel not his descendants! Genesis 32:28

His children are called ISRAELITES!

So all the nonsense and ingredients Israelites later brought God erased it because of His promises to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob (Israel)

Lukuluku69:

So, according to you or should I say your Church Elders non of Jacob's Descendants never worshipped Jehovah? Since Jehovah limited himself to just being the "God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob" he is not the God of David, Solomon, Moses and others since they are Jacob's Descendants and according to you Mr. Akinwale being called "God of Israel is different from God of Israelites"? It is safe to say that after Jacob, no other person worshipped Jehovah amongst the Israelites?
Your ridiculousness is of humongous proportion. At your age and taunted exposure you still think like this?
Continue o

Maximus692:


I have warned you to stop quoting me if you don't want the truth to torment you so my guy you asked for it!

Abraham, Isaac and Jacob are only the people Jehovah attached His name to. Your name can also enter His memory book if you imitate the faith of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob no matter where you come from but even if you're Jacob's first son you are nothing before Jehovah if you don't have the same faith like Abraham! John 8:40

Lukuluku69:

Oderinde, you warned who?
Stop pushing Tripe and warped Teachings on a Public Forum! Very simple.
Limit your nonsensically warped Doctrines and Tortured interpretation to your Kingdom Halls you won't hear Ogbeni Akinwale the unintelligent intelligence officer.
Like I told you, once I see a clanger, I will draw your attention to it.
How many of you carrying Leathers bags around under the scorching Sun have the Faith of Abraham?
You can as well stop the reply/mentions now, then when the next clanger comes, you will see my mention.

Maximus692:


Anyone having Abraham's fath will never raise a weapon against the worshiper of Jehovah!

That's what all those people you mentioned will never do. Jesus said he will come back and kill all those who doesn't want to worship God but Jesus can never ever raise his hand against a worshiper of his God and Father.

That's the faith of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob!

Lukuluku69:

Or Jesus to kill all those who doesn't worship him? When is that going to be? Oh I remember! When he finally decide to stay considering the fact that your Elders told you he came in 1914 to book hotel/residency. Lol
You guy are irredeemably lost. An attempt to redirect your steps always lead to a deeper dug in from you lots. No wonder that guy took a gun and took some Six miserable souls (excluding the baby) with him in Germany.

Maximus692:


So worshipers of Jehovah must not kill! Exodus 20:13

No matter what people believes it's not our right to kill them!