jaephoenix:

So you are saying evil is good?

There is Good in evil

And there is evil in good..

sonmvayina:


There is Good in evil

And there is evil in good..

Explain

Michael548:

Explain

Balance of positive and negative forces...

sonmvayina:


Balance of positive and negative forces...

Explain it in relation to God.
Are you saying there is evil embedded in God?

Michael548:

Are you saying there are no standards to know what is good and evil?

No I am not saying that.

herlecks:
Some hundred years after eating of fruit, God repented he made man, whom you think became like God by eating fruit? Adam was able to accurately name all animals and creatures without giving a name to two different creatures, who after him was able to come close? Adam was commanded to dress and keep the land, imagine how big the earth is, without some strange ability that wouldn't have been possible yet God told him to because God knew he had the ability to, can God tell any man today to dress the whole earth, join all the strength of your ancestors together you'd still fail to dress only your village. Whenever God visited Adam and Eve, they knew he was around and they had wonderous moments together, after the fall hearing God's voice became a challenge, his voice became a problem they have to avoid, just like some men still don't want to seek him because of his standard, they hide from his face like Adam and Eve, they lost their boldness. So they became more like God? In what ways exactly? In knowing good and evil which was never God's purpose for them, they were to be led, moved and carried by the Holy Spirit through the stages of their lives, but got exposed to satanic attacks. So they became more like God? And their sons and daughters? Check your society, check for innocence, check for righteousness, check for uprightness, check for holiness, check for God's power, if you see any of this as common then you lie.

This is just logic that does not work. None of your points was even made from the scriptures.
And all your premises are wrong. First the average human being today has more knowledge and skill than Adam can dream of.
Also the job of giving names to Animals does not involve science and technology. Even 2 years old kids give names to their dolls. If you think it's a very complex task, ask your 2 years old child.
Adam is not the first person to dress a garden. Adam was not asked to dress the whole earth. He was asked to dress a garden. Plus with technology we dress much more land than Adam could ever dream of.

Michael548:

Explain it in relation to God.
Are you saying there is evil embedded in God?

What is good?
What is evil?

There is both good and evil embedded in God..

sonmvayina:


What is good?
What is evil?

You could as well answer the above questions as a premise for the discussion.

tctrills:

No I am not saying that.

So what is the standard for what is good and evil?

Michael548:

You could as well answer the above questions as a premise for the discussion.

I am asking you...
..

Michael548:

So what is the standard for what is good and evil?

Conscience..

Our conscience...

tctrills:

This is just logic that does not work. None of your points was even made from the scriptures.
And all your premises are wrong. First the average human being today has more knowledge and skill than Adam can dream of.
Also the job of giving names to Animals does not involve science and technology. Even 2 years old kids give names to their dolls. If you think it's a very complex task, ask your 2 years old child.
Adam is not the first person to dress a garden. Adam was not asked to dress the whole earth. He was asked to dress a garden. Plus with technology we dress much more land than Adam could ever dream of.

How many living creatures do you think exists? You have more knowledge than Adam? No wonder you're so close to God today that you could hear him walk, so knowledgeable and smart that false preachers fly private jet with your salaries, what smarties! With technology? No wonder your planes are crashing, techies failing. A man lost the opportunity to live forever with God and died and his children are still dying daily like flies and here is another man claiming it was progress.

sonmvayina:


Conscience..

Our conscience...

So if the conscience is the standard, how come you said that Evil and good is embedded in God? Is God himself not suppose to be the one to create the standard?

herlecks:
How many living creatures do you think exists?

If you have access to all creatures naming them would not be a problem. You are just using human wisdom. Do you have any scripture to show that Adam was more like God before eating the fruit. I prefer the scriptures to mere human logic

Michael548:

So what is the standard for what is good and evil?

I think you are going off the point. The standards for good and bad are created but good and bad are not created and can't be destroyed.

tctrills:

I think you are going off the point. The standards for good and bad are created but good and bad are not created and can't be destroyed.

How would you know what is good and bad if there are no standards to measure it?

Michael548:

How would you know what is good and bad if there are no standards to measure it?

You have a point but that does not eliminate the fact that there is good or bad. It's just like saying there is no time if you don't have a clock to measure it.

tctrills:

You have a point but that does not eliminate the fact that there is good or bad. It's just like saying there is no time if you don't have a clock to measure it.

Time is subjective....the same applies to good and bad. Both must be measured with a standard.

Michael548:

Time is subjective....the same applies to good and bad. Both must be measured with a standard.

Yes both should be measured by a standard but they exist irrespective of whether we measure them or not.

tctrills:

Yes both should be measured by a standard but they exist irrespective of whether we measure them or not.

If there are no standards then they don't exist.

Michael548:

If there are no standards then they don't exist.

You even if you don't have a standard of measurement, time does not cease to exist.

tctrills:

You even if you don't have a standard of measurement, time does not cease to exist.

For there to be time, it must be measured. Time cannot exist on its own. It must be in relation to something.

Michael548:

For there to be time, it must be measured. Time cannot exist on its own. It must be in relation to something.

Your opinion but I you are wrong.

tctrills:

Your opinion but I you are wrong.

Prove me wrong

Michael548:

Prove me wrong

That's not my job here. Get more understanding of time and you would be on my side.

tctrills:

That's not my job here. Get more understanding of time and you would be on my side.

Lol....you would the greater understanding would not explain.

Michael548:

Lol....you would the greater understanding would not explain.

I dont get what you are trying to say but I don't think it's my role to prove that time exist even if you don't have a clock.

tctrills:

I dont get what you are trying to say but I don't think it's my role to prove that time exist even if you don't have a clock.

Can there be time without any reference?
Please do research

Michael548:

So if the conscience is the standard, how come you said that Evil and good is embedded in God? Is God himself not suppose to be the one to create the standard?

Yes..

But God is within each and every one of us.....

Michael548:

Can there be time without any reference?
Please do research

Anyway let's stop going round in circles. It's ok to disagree.

tctrills:

Anyway let's stop going round in circles. It's ok to disagree.

Ok

Michael548:

Can there be time without any reference?
Please do research

Maybe time don't exist either...

Or we have is just the present..