A lot of people including Christians from other denominations do not seem to like Deeper Life members.
They hardly speak good about them.
Why do you think people dislike Deeper Life members so much?

Hate?!

Am not sure people hate them

Exc2000:
Hate?!

Am not sure people hate them

It might not be hatred but some people speak badly of them perhaps out of jealousy.

FreedomfromtheT:
It might not be hatred but some people speak badly of them perhaps out of jealousy.

Apart from acting abit strange and weird... They are very cool people if you meet them

Exc2000:


Apart from acting abit strange and weird... They are very cool people if you meet them

Please how do they act a bit 'strange' and 'weird?'

FreedomfromtheT:
Please how do they act a bit 'strange' and 'weird?'

I find it a bit strange visiting my guy John at home and he doesn't own a telivision set

This is a guy who can afford any screen he wants

Exc2000:


I find it a bit strange visiting my guy John at home and he doesn't own a telivision set

This is a guy who can afford any screen he wants

Please when did you visit your Deeper Life friend last?
I know a lot of Deeper Life members including pastors who have television sets in their living rooms.

FreedomfromtheT:
Please when did you visit your Deeper Life friend last?
I know a lot of Deeper Life members including pastors who have television sets in their living rooms.

He stays a few block to my house and I visit him often .. was at his place 2weeks or 3weeks back to borrow his car Jack

Exc2000:


He stays a few block to my house and I visit him often .. was at his place 2weeks or 3weeks back to borrow his car Jack

You can find out from him why he doesn't own a TV set.
If he insists on not having one, then it is his own personal decision not that of Deeper Life Bible Church.

FreedomfromtheT:
■ A lot of people including Christians from other denominations do not seem to like Deeper Life members. They hardly speak good about them. Why do you think people dislike Deeper Life members so much?

1. Well, it is the same way your denomination is known to hate other denominations as well. It seems to be a thing among the many Christian sects to hate each other when you are all in fact of the same foundation — the doctrines and traditions of men, not to be confused with Jesus Christ.

Over religious people are a thorn in the flesh.

Kumuyi wanted them to be separated from all other sects claiming denominations under the umbrella of Christendom like Jehovah's Witnesses but he has no unique teaching to make them different so he told them they're the only BORN AGAIN Christian group that's why Deeperlifers often feel all other religions are going to hell.

It's just of recent that he started inviting people from other religions to come and MINISTER in his church but before then he taught his church members that those people aren't BORN AGAIN.

I laughed really hard the first time is saw a lady
with make-up and earrings in a billboard that Kumuyi the Deeperlifer man organized a program, the white lady is one of the invited ministers to officiate then musicians were also invited that's when it occurred to me that Mr Deeperlifer meant what he said that he's going to change some of his teachings.
But trust Nigerians nah some of those he's been deceiving for years began complaining about the sudden change!

The sect is just the same as all others because they preach, sing and pray the same way others do it's only that Mr Kumuyi decided to lock them up in a box for years making them feel they're special in some ways!

FreedomfromtheT:
A lot of people including Christians from other denominations do not seem to like Deeper Life members.
They hardly speak good about them.
Why do you think people dislike Deeper Life members so much?

No one hates deeper life members.

Only Christians who don't mix with others because of superiority complexes are frowned upon

TenQ:

No one hates deeper life members.

Only Christians who don't mix with others because of superiority complexes are frowned upon

A lot of Deeper Life members really do mix up with others. But when it comes to what they believe or don't believe in, they stir clear.

Kobojunkie:
1. Well, it is the same way your denomination is known to hate other denominations as well. It seems to be a thing among the many Christian sects to hate each other when you are all in fact of the same foundation — the doctrines and traditions of men, not to be confused with Jesus Christ.

You never disappoint.
Typing rubbish as usual.

MaxInDHouse:
Kumuyi wanted them to be separated from all other sects claiming denominations under the umbrella of Christendom like Jehovah's Witnesses but he has no unique teaching to make them different so he told them they're the only BORN AGAIN Christian group that's why Deeperlifers often feel all other religions are going to hell.

It's just of recent that he started inviting people from other religions to come and MINISTER in his church but before then he taught his church members that those people aren't BORN AGAIN.

I laughed really hard the first time is saw a lady
with make-up and earrings in a billboard that Kumuyi the Deeperlifer man organized a program, the white lady is one of the invited ministers to officiate then musicians were also invited that's when it occurred to me that Mr Deeperlifer meant what he said that he's going to change some of his teachings.
But trust Nigerians nah some of those he's been deceiving for years began complaining about the sudden change!

The sect is just the same as all others because they preach, sing and pray the same way others do it's only that Mr Kumuyi decided to lock them up in a box for years making them feel they're special in some ways!

Nonsencical comments born out of ignorance and envy.

FreedomfromtheT:
A lot of Deeper Life members really do mix up with others. But when it comes to what they believe or don't believe in, they stir clear.

That is why I generalized it. Any Christian who feel holier than other Christians or believe they are the only ones with the correct interpretation of the bible would be neglected by other Christians: its only natural.

The superiority complex may be from
1. Pentecostals who look down on non penticostals or vice versa
2. Catholics who look down on Protestants and vice versa
3. Evangelicals who look down on traditional African Christian churches such as C&S, Cele, Anglican/African Churches etc.

Christians should know that only those who are Born Again irrespective of their churches and denominations are the children of God Born not out of the will of man but of God.

For me, it is sufficient if a person is
1. Born Again through Faith in Christ
2. Loves the Lord evidences by a life of Purity
3. Serves the Lord within the limit of his capacity
4. Strives to rightly COMPREHEND the scripture and teach the UNCORRUPTED Word of God not the doctrine of his domination
This person is my Brother in Christ!

Wagwanbrethren:
Over religious people are a thorn in the flesh.

How do you mean sir?

TenQ:

That is why I generalized it. Any Christian who feel holier than other Christians or believe they are the only ones with the correct interpretation of the bible would be neglected by other Christians: its only natural.

The superiority complex may be from
1. Pentecostals who look down on non penticostals or vice versa
2. Catholics who look down on Protestants and vice versa
3. Evangelicals who look down on traditional African Christian churches such as C&S, Cele, Anglican/African Churches etc.

Christians should know that only those who are Born Again irrespective of their churches and denominations are the children of God Born not out of the will of man but of God.

For me, it is sufficient if a person is
1. Born Again through Faith in Christ
2. Loves the Lord evidences by a life of Purity
3. Serves the Lord within the limit of his capacity
4. Strives to rightly COMPREHEND the scripture and teach the UNCORRUPTED Word of God not the doctrine of his domination
This person is my Brother in Christ!

Well said.

FreedomfromtheT:
Nonsencical comments born out of ignorance and envy.

It's the truth otherwise you won't be here asking why people hate Deeperlife.

I am one of Jehovah's Witnesses and we rejoice greatly when we see people hate us for our faith because we know why! Matthew 5:11-12, 24:9

So i can explain in details why they must hate us we are not surprise they do! Act 5:41

You're the one who has nothing to be hated for but we know why so we're not surprised!

MaxInDHouse:


It's the truth otherwise you won't be here asking why people hate Deeperlife.

I am one of Jehovah's Witnesses and we rejoice greatly when we see people hate us for our faith because we know why! Matthew 5:11-12, 24:9

So i can explain in details why they must hate us we are not surprise they do! Act 5:41

You're the one who has nothing to be hated for but we know why so we're not surprised!

People are hated for different reasons.
Deeper Life members are hated for among other things:
1. Preaching and teaching that everyone was born a sinner and non is good enough for God's Kingdom by personal efforts or pius deeds (Romans 3:23)
2. Preaching and teaching that salvation and heavenworthiness comes through the only Saviour of all sinners the world over - Jesus Christ (John 14:6; Acts 4:10-12)
3. Preaching and teaching that a sinner must be born again (genuinely repent and be saved from sin) to get to God's kingdom (John 3:16).
4. Preaching and teaching that salvation is by grace and not earned by good works or religious activities (Ephesians 2:8,9).
5. Preaching and teaching that salvation is not just in the heart. That it must be accompanied by real visible changes inwardly and outwardly (Matthew 5:13-16).
6. Preaching and teaching that a sinner is not a Christian and a Christian is no longer a sinner (1st John 3:4-.
7. By preaching and teaching that there are only two possible destinations after death - heaven or hell and that there is no middle road (Matthew 7:13 and 14; 25:41, 46).
8. Preaching and teaching that not all who profess to belong to Christ are actually His (Matthew 7:21-23; John 8:44, 2bd Corinthians 11:13-15).
9. Preaching and teaching that true Christians must seperate themselves from the principles and practices of the sinners on the world and avoid unequal yoke with unbelievers (James 1:27; 2nd Corinthians 6:14-18)
10. Preaching and teaching that a true Christian must do restitution where necessary as a proof of genuine repentance (Genesis 20:7; Judges 17:1-3; Luke 19:8, Acts 23:3-5).
11. Preaching and teaching that sanctification, the second work of grace is a must after salvation, the first work of grace (1st Thessalonians 4:3-8; 5:23;
12. Preaching and teaching that a true Christian must appear and dress like a Christian (Exodus 2:19; Proverbs 7:10; 1st Timothy 2: 9,10; 1st Peter 3:3-5).
13. Preaching and teaching that without purity of heart and (practical) holiness, no eye shall see the Lord (Matthew 5:8, Hebrews 12:14).
14. Preaching and teaching that there is no forgiveness after death and prayers for the dead are exercises in futility (Hebrews 9:27) etc.
You can add your own.

All these are immaterial the one and only reason for hating Jehovah's Witnesses is our preaching and teaching campaign about God's Kingdom as the only solution to mankind's problems!
All other religions also preach about virtuous deeds but they don't know that their participation in politics is worsening matters that's why our Master, Lord and King Christ Jesus rejected the offer to participate in politics {John 6:15} stressing that his government is no part of this world {John 18:36} all other religions have a hand in politics as their members are either politicians or fighting for politics! Revelations 6:3-4

So despite the suffering of his people in the first century Jesus refused to participate in the political struggle discouraging his disciples not to hate anyone {Matthew 5:43-48} that's why his own people condemned him to death as he refused to take it up with all gifts of supernatural powers so as to free his people from Roman domination.

That's the one and only reason why Jehovah's Witnesses are hated globally as we will never support any side in politics but eagerly anticipating the Kingdom of God preaching zealously and industriously teaching in all our neighbourhood that it will soon come! Matthew 6:10

For your information that's why many are crying up and down that JWs has been telling them fake prophesies as they're desperately looking forward to the day God will come and judge their oppressors but it is taking longer than the way John the baptist, Jesus of Nazareth, first century Christians and Jehovah's Witnesses keep on proclaiming the GOOD NEWS about God's Kingdom.

That's why the world hated John the baptist, Jesus of Nazareth, first century Jewish disciples of Christ and modern day Jehovah's Witnesses for remaining neutral in politics!

FreedomfromtheT:
People are hated for different reasons.
Deeper Life members are hated for among other things:
1. Preaching and teaching that everyone was born a sinner and non is good enough for God's Kingdom by personal efforts or pius deeds (Romans 3:23)
2. Preaching and teaching that salvation and heavenworthiness comes through the only Saviour of all sinners the world over - Jesus Christ (John 14:6; Acts 4:10-12)
3. Preaching and teaching that a sinner must be born again (genuinely repent and be saved from sin) to get to God's kingdom (John 3:16).
4. Preaching and teaching that salvation is by grace and not earned by good works or religious activities (Ephesians 2:8,9).
5. Preaching and teaching that salvation is not just in the heart. That it must be accompanied by real visible changes inwardly and outwardly (Matthew 5:13-16).
6. Preaching and teaching that a sinner is not a Christian and a Christian is no longer a sinner (1st John 3:4-.
7. By preaching and teaching that there are only two possible destinations after death - heaven or hell and that there is no middle road (Matthew 7:13 and 14; 25:41, 46).
8. Preaching and teaching that not all who profess to belong to Christ are actually His (Matthew 7:21-23; John 8:44, 2bd Corinthians 11:13-15).
9. Preaching and teaching that true Christians must seperate themselves from the principles and practices of the sinners on the world and avoid unequal yoke with unbelievers (James 1:27; 2nd Corinthians 6:14-18)
10. Preaching and teaching that a true Christian must do restitution where necessary as a proof of genuine repentance (Genesis 20:7; Judges 17:1-3; Luke 19:8, Acts 23:3-5).
11. Preaching and teaching that sanctification, the second work of grace is a must after salvation, the first work of grace (1st Thessalonians 4:3-8; 5:23;
12. Preaching and teaching that a true Christian must appear and dress like a Christian (Exodus 2:19; Proverbs 7:10; 1st Timothy 2: 9,10; 1st Peter 3:3-5).
13. Preaching and teaching that without purity of heart and (practical) holiness, no eye shall see the Lord (Matthew 5:8, Hebrews 12:14).
14. Preaching and teaching that there is no forgiveness after death and prayers for the dead are exercises in futility (Hebrews 9:27) etc.
You can add your own.

MaxInDHouse:
All these are immaterial the one and only reason for hating Jehovah's Witnesses is our preaching and teaching campaign about God's Kingdom as the only solution to mankind's problems!
All other religions also preach about virtuous deeds but they don't know that their participation in politics is worsening matters that's why our Master, Lord and King Christ Jesus rejected the offer to participate in politics {John 6:15} stressing that his government is no part of this world {John 18:36} all other religions have a hand in politics as their members are either politicians or fighting for politics! Revelations 6:3-4

So despite the suffering of his people in the first century Jesus refused to participate in the political struggle discouraging his disciples not to hate anyone {Matthew 5:43-48} that's why his own people condemned him to death as he refused to take it up with all gifts of supernatural powers so as to free his people from Roman domination.

That's the one and only reason why Jehovah's Witnesses are hated globally as we will never support any side in politics but eagerly anticipating the Kingdom of God preaching zealously and industriously teaching in all our neighbourhood that it will soon come! Matthew 6:10

For your information that's why many are crying up and down that JWs has been telling them fake prophesies as they're desperately looking forward to the day God will come and judge their oppressors but it is taking longer than the way John the baptist, Jesus of Nazareth, first century Christians and Jehovah's Witnesses keep on proclaiming the GOOD NEWS about God's Kingdom.

That's why the world hated John the baptist, Jesus of Nazareth, first century Jewish disciples of Christ and modern day Jehovah's Witnesses for remaining neutral in politics!

You are simply ignorant or sincerely misguided.
The thread is about Deeper Life but you cunningly brought in this your Jehovah's witnesses versus other religions as a propaganda to campaign for your religious sect.
First of all, Christianity is not a religion. It is the life of Christ in man.
Every sinner is dead. You must become alive through genuine salvation before you can become a part of God's Kingdom and then you can reach out to others to become part of same and disciple them after conversion.
Not partaking in the political affairs of your country is your religious dogma or personal choice. It doesn't make you a child of God or candidate of His Kingdom.
The political leaders of the day affect your life through their decisions so if you have the opportunity to choose who should decide on your affairs, it is not against the word of God.
What is against His word is joining in the lies of politicians, their propaganda, character assassination, mudslinging, intimidation and rigging of elections to force one's choice on the people.
Deeper Life members are not in competition with any religious group.
Thank you.

FreedomfromtheT:
Well said.

Most Deeper Life people are very pretentious. They have only outward holiness but they usually fail when they're put to the test.

They don't love. They hardly give. If you ever live with them, they're always fighting you over one thing or the other. Their hypocrisy is immeasurable. There are a few who distinguish themselves but mostly, they're generally unfriendly people. Even among themselves in Church, they're full of scuffles. They never help themselves. Malice and backbiting are the order of the day. Always looking for the sins of others, meanwhile, you're also not living righteously. I am talking from experience. Their holiness is by self struggles, it's not the expression of an inner life. They're not easy to live with. They're very canal people.

FxMasterz:

Most Deeper Life people are very pretentious. They have only outward holiness but they usually fail when they're put to the test.

They don't love. They hardly give. If you ever live with them, they're always fighting you over one thing or the other. Their hypocrisy is immeasurable. There are a few who distinguish themselves but mostly, they're generally unfriendly people. Even among themselves in Church, they're full of scuffles. They never help themselves. Malice and backbiting are the order of the day. Always looking for the sins of others, meanwhile, you're also not living righteously. I am talking from experience. Their holiness is by self struggles, it's not the expression of an inner life. They're not easy to live with. They're very canal people.

All you wrote can be found in any gathering of people claiming to be follower of Christ!

That's why salvation which is the most paramount thing is limited to believing in the sacrificial work of Christ.

"Jesus performed many other signs in the presence of his disciples, which are not recorded in this book. But these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Messiah, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name." John 20:30-31

Emusan:


All you wrote can be found in any gathering of people claiming to be follower of Christ!

That's why salvation which is the most paramount thing is limited to believing in the sacrificial work of Christ.

"Jesus performed many other signs in the presence of his disciples, which are not recorded in this book. But these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Messiah, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name." John 20:30-31

Yes, you're right. Each church has its own distinguishing anomalies but the traits I discussed up there are peculiar to Deeper Life. There are canal people everywhere and in most cases, canal church members are always more than the spiritually minded. Deeper Life by default indirectly glorifies canality because for a long time, they upheld righteousness by works, and downplayed grace. That's why there's a high level of canality among them.

MaxInDHouse:
Kumuyi wanted them to be separated from all other sects claiming denominations under the umbrella of Christendom like Jehovah's Witnesses

It's good as you recognise jws as part of Christendom

but he has no unique teaching to make them different

Yet you once accused Kumuyi of stealing jws works for teaching, watchtower has no unique teaching

so he told them they're the only BORN AGAIN Christian group that's why Deeperlifers often feel all other religions are going to hell.

Just Pastor Russell claimed him and 143,999 are BORN again while the rest will face the bombardment of Armageddon on earth.

It's just of recent that he started inviting people from other religions to come and MINISTER in his church but before then he taught his church members that those people aren't BORN AGAIN.

Watchtower did the same by claiming it's new light don't forget.

I laughed really hard the first time is saw a lady
with make-up and earrings in a billboard that Kumuyi the Deeperlifer man organized a program, the white lady is one of the invited ministers to officiate then musicians were also invited that's when it occurred to me that Mr Deeperlifer meant what he said that he's going to change some of his teachings.
But trust Nigerians nah some of those he's been deceiving for years began complaining about the sudden change!

But you didn't laugh so hard when realised that Watchtower once propagated Jesus as God and Herald of Jesus Christ.

The sect is just the same as all others

Since you can call Deeper life a sect, then do you agree that Watchtower is also a sect?

because they preach, sing and pray the same way others do

But I thought Kumuyi is using Watchtower template

it's only that Mr Kumuyi decided to lock them up in a box for years making them feel they're special in some ways!

Same thing jws is doing.

Lock you people's brain in a box and makes you think no denominations is in your class.

Pot calling kettle black...

FxMasterz:

Yes, you're right. Each church has its own distinguishing anomalies but the traits I discussed up there are peculiar to Deeper Life. There are canal people everywhere and in most cases, canal church members are always more than the spiritually minded. Deeper Life by default indirectly glorifies canality because for a long time, they upheld righteousness by works, and downplayed grace. That's why there's a high level of canality among them.

Even the congregations that capitalised on grace, their members still see that as avenue to since because they're under grace.

So my point is, Christ is for believers in him and not names of denominations.

Jesus' group is against all other religions that's why the Jews detests Christianity despite being of divers opinions and sects.
So it's not about your incompetent members who has nothing tangible or unique to preach God's people are hated because of pure worship ordinarily if you meet me in person without knowing my faith you will like me but when you know that i'm one of Jehovah's Witnesses that's when the enemy starts because of the great Chasm fixed between us! Luke 16:26

FreedomfromtheT:

Deeper Life members are not in competition with any religious group.
Thank you.

FxMasterz:

Most Deeper Life people are very pretentious. They have only outward holiness but they usually fail when they're put to the test.

They don't love. They hardly give. If you ever live with them, they're always fighting you over one thing or the other. Their hypocrisy is immeasurable. There are a few who distinguish themselves but mostly, they're generally unfriendly people. Even among themselves in Church, they're full of scuffles. They never help themselves. Malice and backbiting are the order of the day. Always looking for the sins of others, meanwhile, you're also not living righteously. I am talking from experience. Their holiness is by self struggles, it's not the expression of an inner life. They're not easy to live with. They're very canal people.

Whaaaaaooo!
Are these the only 'sins' of these Deeper Life members?
See hatred, bitterness, envy and malice combined.
Are you the monitoring agent of Deeper Life members?
What a profitable job!
How much is Satan paying you?
How do all these accusations affect how God sees them or stop people from joining Deeper Life Bible Church?
It is really wise to be carrying loads of hatred and be expecting Deeper Life members to be feeling the pain!

FxMasterz:

Yes, you're right. Each church has its own distinguishing anomalies but the traits I discussed up there are peculiar to Deeper Life. There are canal people everywhere and in most cases, canal church members are always more than the spiritually minded. Deeper Life by default indirectly glorifies canality because for a long time, they upheld righteousness by works, and downplayed grace. That's why there's a high level of canality among them.

You are very much ignorant of what Deeper Life preaches and stands for.
You are free to continue your hatred for God's people. They are not the first to be hated by the children of Satan.

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus' group is against all other religions that's why the Jews detests Christianity despite being of divers opinions and sects.
So it's not about your incompetent members who has nothing tangible or unique to preach God's people are hated because of pure worship ordinarily if you meet me in person without knowing my faith you will like me but when you know that i'm one of Jehovah's Witnesses that's when the enemy starts because of the great Chasm fixed between us! Luke 16:26

As a Christian, I don't hate anybody. I only hate sin and deception that leads the ignorant to eternal doom.
I hate the deceptive teachings of false teachers including the Jehovah's witnesses.