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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by abuhusna1: 2:59pm On Nov 27, 2023
HenryG:

Thanks. I have already stopped the work.
Does that mean that Crypto trade in the UK doesn't affect international students?
If you use your country as country of residence while opening account on exchange you won't be affected in the uk but if you put uk as country of residence your file will one day be sent to hmrc for tax purpose
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by ehizario2012: 2:59pm On Nov 27, 2023
heroshark:


So an immigrant shouldn't have an opinion? Why are you all pretending ? Most people paying £10k to get a care COS from Nigeria, if they qualify for Canada PR they won't be paying such outrageous sum to come to the UK to do care.
Over 80% of Nigerians that migrated from Nigeria to the UK on skilled worker visa came through the heathcare worker route.

So when I said many Nigerian that rushed to the UK won't qualify for Canadian student or PR route I stand by it 100%.

I've met many that have been denied either Canada or US student visa b4 trying the UK.

Stop the hypocrisy and check the Nigerians among you, mostly those working in care sector, how many of them have the education (not including any MSc obtained in the UK) , skillset, experience and age to secure the top CRS point for Canada PR route ?

I know we have some very brilliant and talented Nigerians in the UK, so I try not to generalize.

The keywords in my post is Many not majority and rush (you can't rush to Canada, it's simply impossible).

You are right.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 3:02pm On Nov 27, 2023
Goke7:


one of the top recommendations now from the Migration Advisory Council is to scrap the shortage skills list as it's obvious to all that its just for decoration, so many things here are not straightforward, they want to scrap it cos according to them it is encouraging cheap labour which I find laughable.

But it's true though. The shortage list allows you to pay 20% less than the going rate, some companies esp SMEs would definitely pay much less.

I laughed in Spanish when on the BbC last week, an Asian man said he couldn't find a mechanic to employ in the UK.Another said he couldn't find chefs🙄 - both occupations are on the shortage list and they went to Pakistan / India to recruit, maybe directly from their communities, who knows.
Where is the evidence that they tried to recruit broadly in the UK first?
How much do you think they will pay the mechanic and chef that they have already done such a favour to by bringing them and their families (both real and arranged lol) to the UK?
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by karixz: 3:04pm On Nov 27, 2023
Goke7:

Physical or high street banks lol, spiritual banks no Dey o. Any of them is good actually be it hsbc, Lloyds or Halifax

I just said physical cause I already have Revolut
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 3:05pm On Nov 27, 2023
kwakudtraveller:


People are now setting up care home businesses just to sell COS. The rot keeps getting deeper but people like to be delulu instead of acknowledging that we as a people, Indians, Ghanaians, Zimbabweans, and Nigerians need to do better. I’ve come to realise that it’s their country and their rules and if I don’t like it, then I can fxxk off to another country where I will still cry and cry if their policies annoy me. But to ignore the fact that we are abusing the system is downright preposterous. Because their policies appear to be turning on its own no mean say they are wrong, they are right in their own way as it’s their country and their rules.

The truth remains that one has a higher chance of getting a UK visa than any of those countries mentioned and you people know that Heroshark is right but you are just in denial. Not every Joe can make it into Canada as their deciding factors are strict, that’s why there’s a distinction between the quality of people who move into Canada, Australia and the US versus the UK. A high percentage of the people who moved to the US legally either did so through Family, Lottery system or School and as for the student route, US universities will deny your study application or visa before you finish spelling SUELLA. US universities reject their citizens, talk more of you a foreigner. The people who moved in illegally, got in through a visiting visa and they either did marriage fraud or applied for asylum. I know a handful of such people. Make Una Japa to US easily like the UK now, make we dey see.

The UK is this and that, but the other day, we dey complain about woman wey get work go dey collect free food wey suppose be poor people with zero income, she come even turn am to content creation. But we wan dey banter back and forth on top the truth.

Make everybody dey deceive themselves.

Sorry Zahra for hijacking your post to write this long talk. The talk don tire me

Lol no worries. You've summed it up perfectly

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by HenryG(m): 3:20pm On Nov 27, 2023
abuhusna1:

If you use your country as country of residence while opening account on exchange you won't be affected in the uk but if you put uk as country of residence your file will one day be sent to hmrc for tax purpose

Thank you. I used UK as residence. I bought Crypto less than £100 but I didn't trade neither did I sell. It was opened on Saturday and I have closed the account on Sunday midnight. Am I safe like this? Will data still be sent to HMRC?
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by abuhusna1: 3:21pm On Nov 27, 2023
HenryG:


Thank you. I used UK as residence. I bought Crypto less than £100 but I didn't trade neither did I sell. It was opened on Saturday and I have closed the account on Sunday midnight. Am I safe like this?
Yes. That is nothing significant
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by HenryG(m): 3:22pm On Nov 27, 2023
abuhusna1:

Yes. That is nothing significant
Thank you for your response
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 3:29pm On Nov 27, 2023
Zahra29:


But it's true though. The shortage list allows you to pay 20% less than the going rate, some companies esp SMEs would definitely pay much less.

I laughed in Spanish when on the BbC last week, an Asian man said he couldn't find a mechanic to employ in the UK.Another said he couldn't find chefs🙄 - both occupations are on the shortage list and they went to Pakistan / India to recruit, maybe directly from their communities, who knows.
Where is the evidence that they tried to recruit broadly in the UK first?
How much do you think they will pay the mechanic and chef that they have already done such a favour to by bringing them and their families (both real and arranged lol) to the UK?

don't sound like braverman here o, how many locals are truly willing to work as chefs or mechanics? I have worked in a local council so I Know firsthand, despite all the training available for locals to do in these areas, how many come forward for it at the end of the day? I once asked someone what's really the problem, and with shame he told me our folks are not interested. We see these things but many will say it's a lie.

As for that shortage list by the way apart from the healthcare roles, not many foreign workers are recruited for other roles so I support that it should be scrapped cos it's obvious it doesn't make sense and the policymakers know this already. It's a huge cost to employers to bring in foreign workers in the first place and it's because of the waivers the healthcare industry enjoys reason they can bring in as many as they like.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 3:29pm On Nov 27, 2023
kwakudtraveller:

But it’s clearly defined on their website, they have a list of skill set they want for the top visas. If the companies are not sponsoring, it’s no fault of the government as they have to prioritise their own as opposed to putting in an extra cost for a visa when they can just easily hire a citizen or someone with an existing work permit with no ties.

Agreed.

A company isn't compelled to offer sponsorship if it believe it can find the skills it needs in the domestic market. I work for a global FS consulting company and they don't sponsor. I assume it's a choice - probably due to the costs and legal paperwork, maybe also the strict background checks that go back 5/6 years. If they're struggling to find a specific skill set, then they turn to the contractor market.

They do hire associates that are on PSW though, I've interviewed a number of international students who I assume have the right to work from PSW, but interestingly majority of the candidates I've seen were India and China. Even though my company doesn't sponsor, 1- 2 years working on projects at tier one banks would put these candidates in a strong position to get hired and sponsored by another firm.

So I agree with @dupsyshoo that PSW isn't a waste, but at the same time it's not the government's responsibility to ensure sponsorship for all beyond PSW.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 3:32pm On Nov 27, 2023
Goke7:


don't sound like braverman here o, how many locals are truly willing to work as chefs or mechanics? I have worked in a local council so I Know firsthand, despite all the training available for locals to do in these areas, how many come forward for it at the end of the day? I once asked someone what's really the problem, and with shame he told me our folks are not interested. We see these things but many will say it's a lie.

As for that shortage list by the way apart from the healthcare roles, not many foreign workers are recruited for other roles so I support that it should be scrapped cos it's obvious it doesn't make sense and the policymakers know this already. It's a huge cost to employers to bring in foreign workers in the first place and it's because of the waivers the healthcare industry enjoys reason they can bring in as many as they like.

Suella-let here 😂....Locals aside, you're telling me they couldn't find a chef or mechanic or barber within the vast Indian, Pakistani, Bangledeshi communities already in the UK They had to go and find some in India? Ok....

I don't think they should scrap the list entirely as there are some roles that make sense e.g. welder, civil engineer etc...but it needs to be refined so that it doesn't simply become an avenue for employers to get cheap labour in.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Raalsalghul: 3:37pm On Nov 27, 2023
florixi:



Your point does not still hold water. Whatever means people use to japa is no one's business. Some people migrated via sea and sought asylum when they arrived, and most of them are doing very well afterward.

You need to take heart and take a painkiller because more people are coming into the UK, no be you get uk. If you think they are low-skilled people, then you can relocate to another planet because their employers are not complaining. It is only bad belle people like you who are in severe pain because you don't want to see any other person succeed except yourself.

That your cousin wey you dey oppress for naija, wey you refused to show d way , is coming this December! grin O yah vex again!!

grin grin grin
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 3:54pm On Nov 27, 2023
Zahra29:


Suella-let here 😂....Locals aside, you're telling me they couldn't find a chef or mechanic or barber within the vast Indian, Pakistani, Bangledeshi communities already in the UK They had to go and find some in India? Ok....

I don't think they should scrap the list entirely as there are some roles that make sense e.g. welder, civil engineer etc...but it needs to be refined so that it doesn't simply become an avenue for employers to get cheap labour in.

if they were never allowed into the country, who would have done it, I remember one Justwise comment way back as in 'What is the real definition of a local or British'

We also seem to be putting everyone inside the same bucket, locals can also refer to graduates here who already have some experience but are limited by visa length, this is where the system needs more definition. If more efforts are made to retain graduates without the burden of sponsorship, it's even easier to control migration, but if you put both inside and outside the country in the same bucket then there will be chaos like the selling of COS.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Newbie123: 4:18pm On Nov 27, 2023
HenryG:
Hello everyone,
Please I need your help. I am bit shaking right now. I am a student in the UK. I was contacted over the weekend for data optimising job for App review for play stores and Apple stores through an agency. There is a form of payment that comes through the website where we review Apps for optimization (Which is just a click and submit review for Apps). The money from the website (in USDT) can be sent to a Crypto wallet (OKX). I had to buy buy USDT 2 times yesterday and today for the work which was £66 spent. The purchase was through P2P by paying directly into the seller bank account and then the seller releasing Crypto(USDT) to me in my OKX account. It all went successfully though. and I have realised £166 within the days together with my £66
But later, I started checking if I am eligible to engage into Crypto as an International student in the UK. I have not sold any Crypto than to buy 2 times(over the weekend. Please I do hope I am not in a mess already as an international student.
Your response will be appreciated.
Thanks

Op, just a little off topic...

Please did you register your place of residence as UK or Nigeria?

I updated mine to Nigeria. Now I can't see trades on P2P from Nigeria. I can only see in UK. And I can't even trade
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by babranancy: 4:19pm On Nov 27, 2023
Where can one purchase affordable car please. I am in need of one right now.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by ehizario2012: 5:04pm On Nov 27, 2023
Goodenoch:


I think you're misinterpreting what the person you quoted said.

The tax bands apply to ALL income COMBINED. Doesn't matter if it's one or two or ten jobs.

If you're under-taxed in either of the jobs, you'll get a notice from HMRC demanding the rest later.

Ok if that's it, it's better to stay under the radar, while hugging the upper limit of £50k... Except there's a quantum leap from £49,900 to an amount where the net amount (aft. Tax) would be a positive difference...

£50k is equiv. To £40k aft. Tax @20% PIT
£65k is equiv. To £39k aft. Tax @40% PIT

There must be a hidden incentive I'm missing here...

The breakeven point is about £68k @40% PIT.

"idea is need 😂"
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by ehizario2012: 5:09pm On Nov 27, 2023
HenryG:


Thank you. I used UK as residence. I bought Crypto less than £100 but I didn't trade neither did I sell. It was opened on Saturday and I have closed the account on Sunday midnight. Am I safe like this? Will data still be sent to HMRC?

You seem to be very detailed, and know what you want. My surprise is why you did not channel this energy into researching about crypto in the UK before tasting the juicy fruit...

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by dupyshoo: 5:11pm On Nov 27, 2023
This is not correct, your entire £65k is not taxed at 40%.

Your first 12570 is not taxed, the next 37,700 (12,571- 50,270) is taxed at 20%, from 50,271 to 125,140 is taxed at 40%.

ehizario2012:


Ok if that's it, it's better to stay under the radar, while hugging the upper limit of £50k... Except there's a quantum leap from £49,900 to an amount where the net amount (aft. Tax) would be a positive difference...

£50k is equiv. To £40k aft. Tax @20% PIT
£65k is equiv. To £39k aft. Tax @40% PIT

There must be a hidden incentive I'm missing here...

The breakeven point is about £68k @40% PIT.

"idea is need 😂"

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by AntiMCU: 5:47pm On Nov 27, 2023
Schoolhike:


No, click on show filter, then you will see job grade.

Hi Oga Schoolhike,

I wanted to use this opportunity to thank you.

Got a success mail for the role of an Admin Officer at DWP today all thanks to your tips on applying for civil service jobs as a way of getting into the professional sector.

Was beginning to doubt myself and abilities during this job search: hopefully, this is an opportunity I can build on thanks to you.

Meanwhile, I still await feedback on the NHS graduate trainee scheme. Hopefully, that pans out well too.


Meanwhile, all these so called highly-skilled immigrants, you guys should have stayed back and develop your country na since you believe you so smart and savvy. Na for inside another man country una wan dey class una self instead of being humble. Wetin dey pain me be say this might be coming from someone that has not migrated let's say up to five years.
If na person dey dan tey, I for understand. Tueh!

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by eniola1010(m): 7:08pm On Nov 27, 2023
hustla:


0 lies detected

Out of all the guys we came in together, only one does not have a leg in Canada and that's cos he wants Australia. One even left to Yankee on visiting and never returned

Most people just finish school, apply for the Canada PR as soon as they are on PSW and just wait it out. Before 2 yrs PSW is complete, them don port

grin

Boss abeg, there was a time you posted on thread how to apply for civil government job you posted the link, also u posted the link to get nhs jobs, please can u post both links again

And also pls whats the best way of getting entry level project management jobs, no much role opening like that on indeed.

I just need a platform i can apply to as much project management entry role jobs as possible
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by hustla(m): 7:16pm On Nov 27, 2023
eniola1010:


Boss abeg, there was a time you posted on thread how to apply for civil government job you posted the link, also u posted the link to get nhs jobs, please can u post both links again

And also pls whats the best way of getting entry level project management jobs, no much role opening like that on indeed.

I just need a platform i can apply to as much project management entry role jobs as possible


Errr. i doubt i am the person you are referring to my Oga but the NHS jobs I have applied to are on https://beta.jobs.nhs.uk/candidate/search

Civil service ones - https://www.civilservicejobs.service.gov.uk/csr/index.cgi

I don't really know much about PM jobs

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by babajeje123(m): 8:02pm On Nov 27, 2023
Goke7:


people feel it's a waste of time applying for psw cos it leads to nowhere, nobody likes uncertainty, if the UK immigration policies are straightforward it will be easy for people to make more well-informed decisions, the only straightforward thing now is care cos it leads to their desired settlement. That is why the smarter ones are looking to other countries not because the UK is not even better than those countries but because nobody wants to mortgage his future for any uncertainty. It looks like a gamble for many especially with families applying for psw with the heavy cost to it while with care they just pay the visa fee and are exempted from ihs fees. Only those with a strong desire to remain in their field will try the psw route first and see what happens and they are very few. Th Uk does not need to make these things hard like this and still complain of over 1 million vacancies not filled.
Post study is never a waste of time. One of the challenges our people have is their inability to delay gratification. Our people don't want to sow today to reap a better tomorrow. I finished my Msc in January and opted for post study. Meanwhile I got a job with a trust who was not going to sponsor and won't still allow me to start till I get my post study. It was a band 3 role but I went for it. Paid £8k plus for the whole family and started the job. Few friends who heard I opted for post study abused hell out of me since I could have used the money to buy COS. To sha cut the story short, got a higher band for the same role with another trust who sponsored. Few weeks back, we applied and received £1600 plus as IHS refund, part of the post study ihs and part of dependants ihs. So you see, there are numerous opportunities in this country such that one doesn't need to cut corners. People just need to define and stick to what they want.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Poanan: 8:20pm On Nov 27, 2023
dupyshoo:
Psw is no waste of time. I know of more than 20 friends that got a job in their fields during PSW. While some people will get job before finishing, some will get after a year, some after 2 years. The final outcome will be to become a citizen. It is not how far but how well.

You did not address the statement that some students are not chanelling their energy to applying for jobs in their field. How will they get sponsored when they did not apply.

If we want to be a force to be reckon with in this country, as Nigerians, we need to start targeting the top collectively and stop settling for less.


Dupsy things have changed now. When was this if you dont mind me asking.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by ehizario2012: 8:37pm On Nov 27, 2023
dupyshoo:
This is not correct, your entire £65k is not taxed at 40%.

Your first 12570 is not taxed, the next 37,700 (12,571- 50,270) is taxed at 20%, from 50,271 to 125,140 is taxed at 40%.


Ok progressive tax. Thanks
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 8:40pm On Nov 27, 2023
babajeje123:

Post study is never a waste of time. One of the challenges our people have is their inability to delay gratification. Our people don't want to sow today to reap a better tomorrow. I finished my Msc in January and opted for post study. Meanwhile I got a job with a trust who was not going to sponsor and won't still allow me to start till I get my post study. It was a band 3 role but I went for it. Paid £8k plus for the whole family and started the job. Few friends who heard I opted for post study abused hell out of me since I could have used the money to buy COS. To sha cut the story short, got a higher band for the same role with another trust who sponsored. Few weeks back, we applied and received £1600 plus as IHS refund, part of the post study ihs and part of dependants ihs. So you see, there are numerous opportunities in this country such that one doesn't need to cut corners. People just need to define and stick to what they want.
You can only speak for yourself, you can’t speak for others. Circumstances and experiences differ from one person to another. Not everyone on the psw route will get a sponsorship job and that’s a fact. We have been told here that no company is under obligation to sponsor anyone. And some of these people in this circumstance are the ones going to other countries yet we will condemn such move and say it’s not greener on the other side or they don’t know what they want. We need to be more sensitive to the diverse situations of others.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Lexusgs430: 8:58pm On Nov 27, 2023
UK government have now moved from cutting illegal migration, to cutting legal migration.......😜😁

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by igbsam(m): 9:05pm On Nov 27, 2023
justwise:


There was no setup cost as I was renewing expired contract. When my contract expired they increased the monthly payment I decided not to renew it at that time and got mobile broadband from another provider. That did not work out then I came back to Talktalk to renegotiate and this time around I was given a better deal

How did you go about this renegotiation ? I intend to do that with them too
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by dupyshoo: 9:06pm On Nov 27, 2023
Believe me, it was worse. We were the last set that did post study visa before it was stopped. Theresa May was Home Secretary then.
Poanan:


Dupsy things have changed now. When was this if you dont mind me asking.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Raalsalghul: 9:16pm On Nov 27, 2023
Goke7:


Why will they channel their energy when there’s no hope of sponsorship, do we all have same level of resilience? Like someone said we may need to respect people’s choices for going the care route. For many it’s family survival first, will you blame them? This is why some people feel we are bashing other people’s career choices here.

I resonate with your argument especially at the bold. The healthcare sector seems to be the only sector that is immune in this whole immigration craze. You can see this from how they're talking about increasing salary threshold for the skilled worker visa "except" the same much aligned care sector. So it makes sense for people to jump into that field as a way of sorting out their immigration issues/stay and then worry about career later by upskilling.

This is not me saying most people should settle for care, in fact as an immigrant in the United Kingdom, it'll be the ideal situation to get sponsored in your desired career but in a case whereby that is not happening, it only makes sense to sort your immigration issues (By getting the CARE COS which is the most readily available grin) first before worrying about career. It's been pragmatic and strategic at the same time.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by hustla(m): 9:17pm On Nov 27, 2023
Lexusgs430:
UK government have now moved from cutting illegal migration, to cutting legal migration.......😜😁


Everytime cut cut cut, remove, stop, never any addition or improvement

lipsrsealed
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by triplo3: 9:22pm On Nov 27, 2023
babranancy:
Where can one purchase affordable car please. I am in need of one right now.

Nothing like affordable car again in this youkay! Gone are the days of cheap oldie for £600 or lower. Then after finding cheap car, insurance go show you shege lol.

Jokes apart, try gumtree, facebook marketplace (beware of scammers) and auto trader. Go for manual from 2005 upwards. Ford and Japanese products are reliable. I’m assuming you just need to move from point A to B…hence the basics. Anyway, whatever the cost, cars are worth it. Taxis are expensive and public transport generally wastes valuable time, plus winter is coming /is here. Goodluck!

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