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Re: The Proof that Allah Killed Muhammad For Falsifying The Quran? by TenQ: 8:06am On May 30, 2023
gaskiyamagana:

For others on this thread to judge both of us requote the answer to the original Word translated into English meaning Vain or Lie from Aramaic, Hebrew, Latin or Greek Bible languages. Also, the mission coverage of Jesus, lost sheep of the house of Israel or whole world or whole creation, as verses l qouted are confusing and contradicting.

https://www.nairaland.com/7703863/proof-allah-killed-muhammad-falsifying/1#123436009


You didn't read this?
Re: The Proof that Allah Killed Muhammad For Falsifying The Quran? by gaskiyamagana: 12:16pm On May 30, 2023
TenQ:


https://www.nairaland.com/7703863/proof-allah-killed-muhammad-falsifying/1#123436009


You didn't read this?

What is the relationship between the website and:
1 Vain for lie , the key word in JEREMIAH 8:8?
2. Coverage of Jesus Mission; Lost sheep of the house of Israel or all Nations or the world or whole creation as verses in the Bible are confusing and contradicting?
You are, out of total confusion, jumping from one topic to another in religion that you are neither a student nor teacher but an online nuisance with fake and doctored quotes from Christianized sources. Remember that l have said, and which unfortunately, you find no rebuttal from your sources, the wastefulness of dead, living and unborn Christians' faith and rejection of their worship by Jesus before Almighty Allah, Qur'an 5:116-118.
Re: The Proof that Allah Killed Muhammad For Falsifying The Quran? by NairaLTQ: 12:49pm On May 30, 2023
gaskiyamagana:


What is the relationship between the website and:
1 Vain for lie , the key word in JEREMIAH 8:8?
2. Coverage of Jesus Mission; Lost sheep of the house of Israel or all Nations or the world or whole creation as verses in the Bible are confusing and contradicting?
You are, out of total confusion, jumping from one topic to another in religion that you are neither a student nor teacher but an online nuisance with fake and doctored quotes from Christianized sources. Remember that l have said, and which unfortunately, you find no rebuttal from your sources, the wastefulness of dead, living and unborn Christians' faith and rejection of their worship by Jesus before Almighty Allah, Qur'an 5:116-118.
A proof that you don't read at all.
This is the third time I am referring you to MY write-up and rebuttal on this. For the last time

Your responses

https://www.nairaland.com/7703863/proof-allah-killed-muhammad-falsifying/1#123436009
and
https://www.nairaland.com/7703863/proof-allah-killed-muhammad-falsifying/1#123436029

It is good that you recognise the porn nature of the Quran and the failure of knowledge in logic, mathematics, history and sciences.

Everything to evade the main Point of Discussion: Allah severed Mohammeds Aorta for fabricating the Quran.

Your Questions are still Pending o!

Question:
1. Since we know that everything is destiny in Islam, Did Allah
destined Zaynab to Poison Mohammed?
2. What chapters and verses of the Quran was fabricated by Mohammed
that Allah had to execute judgement of severing his aorta and making
sure he cannot be helped?
3. If Jesus was delivered from death, why do you think that the
greatest Messenger was not delivered from this excruciatingly painful
slow death? Was Allah torturing Mohammed for his sin?
Re: The Proof that Allah Killed Muhammad For Falsifying The Quran? by gaskiyamagana: 1:05pm On May 30, 2023
NairaLTQ:

A proof that you don't read at all.
This is the third time I am referring you to MY write-up and rebuttal on this. For the last time

Your responses

https://www.nairaland.com/7703863/proof-allah-killed-muhammad-falsifying/1#123436009
and
https://www.nairaland.com/7703863/proof-allah-killed-muhammad-falsifying/1#123436029

It is good that you recognise the porn nature of the Quran and the failure of knowledge in logic, mathematics, history and sciences.

Everything to evade the main Point of Discussion: Allah severed Mohammeds Aorta for fabricating the Quran.

Your Questions are still Pending o!

Question:
1. Since we know that everything is destiny in Islam, Did Allah
destined Zaynab to Poison Mohammed?
2. What chapters and verses of the Quran was fabricated by Mohammed
that Allah had to execute judgement of severing his aorta and making
sure he cannot be helped?
3. If Jesus was delivered from death, why do you think that the
greatest Messenger was not delivered from this excruciatingly painful
slow death? Was Allah torturing Mohammed for his sin?
I don't and I will never read jargons, products of your upsidedown reason which is borne out of passionate and pure hatred for your creator Allah, His noble Universal prophet and His chosen religion for mankind, ISLAM.
Let your noise continues here and somewhere else till after second coming of Jesus and see your DOOM as contained in Quran 5:116-118.
Re: The Proof that Allah Killed Muhammad For Falsifying The Quran? by NairaLTQ: 4:02pm On May 30, 2023
gaskiyamagana:

I don't and I will never read jargons, products of your upsidedown reason which is borne out of passionate and pure hatred for your creator Allah, His noble Universal prophet and His chosen religion for mankind, ISLAM.
Let your noise continues here and somewhere else till after second coming of Jesus and see your DOOM as contained in Quran 5:116-118.
Do you know why I am not one bit surprised!?

Because a Muslim is one who says to himself:
Don't confuse me with the Truth because I have made up my Mind

So, all your noise making is the gra gra of a dying Donkey!

I still pray for you that you will find out the truth in Christ before it is too late. God love you too much for what you are doing to yourself! Stop the self delusion!




Speaking about the Qur'an

You may want to check out this Sheik

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdWuKYASPpA

1. He believes he is a Muslim
2. He accords his highest respect to Allah
3. He from his studies have concluded that Muslims have written too many UNTRUE things about the Qur'an as
a. The VERBATIM words of Allah
b. The Age of the Qur'an
c. The claim of Inspiration/dictation by Jubril
d. He doesn't have a Problem with Mohammed writing the Qur'an
e. He still believes Mohammed is a Messanger of Allah
f. He is still a Muslim
Re: The Proof that Allah Killed Muhammad For Falsifying The Quran? by gaskiyamagana: 3:59pm On Jun 12, 2023
TenQ:





https://www.nairaland.com/post/123436029



So, you didn't see this?

Here is a scripture that may help you if you can process it.
Eph 2:11-13:
"Why remember, that you being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands; That at that time you were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world: But now in Christ Jesus you who sometimes were far off are made near by the blood of Christ."


Through the Blood of Christ, we Gentiles (non Isrealites) became partaker of the Gift of SALVATION by the BLOOD of Christ!

If Jesus Mission is for the whole creation or the world ; not only Israel, WHY WAS HE AND HIS DISCIPLES JUDGING TWELVE TRIBES OF ISRAEL ALONE HERE AFTER , NOT THE WHOLE CREATION OR THE WORLD according to verses in the Bible?
Re: The Proof that Allah Killed Muhammad For Falsifying The Quran? by TenQ: 5:09pm On Jun 12, 2023
Christians have NOTHING to hide, therefore we ALWAYS answer your Questions: Unlike you Muslims
gaskiyamagana:

If Jesus Mission is for the whole creation or the world ; not only Israel, WHY WAS HE AND HIS DISCIPLES JUDGING TWELVE TRIBES OF ISRAEL ALONE HERE AFTER , NOT THE WHOLE CREATION OR THE WORLD according to verses in the Bible?
Too easy.

1. The word JUDGE mean RULE OVER a people.
Judgement of human destination to Paradise or Hell Fire is by Christ Alone.
John 3:18
“He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

Revelation 20:15
Anyone whose name was not found written in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire.


2. God the Father personally Judges no One but Every Judgement is by Christ Jesus
John 5:22-24
For the Father judges no one, but has committed all judgment to the Son, that all should honor the Son just as they honor the Father. He who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent Him. “Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life.

Acts 10:42
And He ordered us to preach to the people, and solemnly to testify that this is the One (Jesus) who has been appointed by God as Judge of the living and the dead.

Acts 17:31
because He (God) has fixed a day in which He will judge the world in righteousness through a Man (Jesus) whom He has appointed, having furnished proof to all men by raising Him from the dead.”


3. Jesus has made Every Faithful Believer as a Judge over people
Revelation 5:10
And have made us kings and priests to our God;
And we shall reign on the earth.'

1 Corinthians 6:1-3
Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints? Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters? Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?

Revelation 20:4
And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was committed to them. Then I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received his mark on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.


So, TenQ as a Servant of Christ Jesus will NOT be assigned to judge any of the tribes of Israel as this is given only to the core Disciples of Christ. Jesus will assign me my own community according to my Faithfulness to God in performing His commands of Loving others, Living in Purity and Serving Him with good works.
Luke 19:16-19
Then came the first, saying, ‘Master, your mina has earned ten minas.’ 17And he said to him, ‘Well done, good servant; because you were faithful in a very little, have authority over ten cities.’ And the second came, saying, ‘Master, your mina has earned five minas.’ Likewise he said to him, ‘You also be over five cities.’
Re: The Proof that Allah Killed Muhammad For Falsifying The Quran? by honesttalk21: 9:23pm On Jun 16, 2023
Didn't the Prophet Muhammad come to know the lamb meat was poisoned before consuming much of it?
"I said to myself: If he is a prophet he will be
informed. The sheep will inform him of what I did."

I feel as if [/b]my aorta is being cut from that poison

The phrase as if is used when
giving a possible explanation for something or saying that something appears to be the case [b]when it is not.


TenQ:
EVIDENCE FROM ISLAMIC SOURCES
But then, How did Mohammed Die?
A little History:
Zaynab bint Al-Harith was a Jewish woman who attempted to assassinate
Muhammad by poisoning after the battle of Khaybar after their defeat
fat the hands of the Muslims. In the course of negotiating the terms
of surrender, Zaynab volunteered to cook a lamb for Mohammed.
Mohammed took some of the lamb meat and chewed a morsel of it, but he
did not swallow it. Bishr b. al-Bara b. Ma’rur who was with him took
some of it as the apostle had done, but he swallowed it, while the apostle spat it out, saying, ‘This bone tells me that it is poisoned.’ Bishr became paralised and died shortly after.

Zaynab's Motivation:'
The Messenger of God called Zaynab, and said, "Did you poison the shoulder?" She said, "Who told you?" He replied, "The shoulder." She said, "Yes." He asked, "What persuaded you to do that?" She said, "You
killed my father, my uncle and my husband. You took from my people what you took. If he is a king, we will be relieved of him."

From that time, Mohammed's health deteriorated badly and died with no
one able to help him recover.
Contrary to some modern Muslims recent narratives, here is what

Mohammed himself said:
Mohammed's Testimony:
1. Sahih al-Bukhari 4428
Narrated 'Aisha: The Prophet in his ailment in which he died, used to say, "O 'Aisha! I still feel the pain caused by the food I ate at Khaibar, and at this time, I feel as if my aorta is being cut from that poison."


2. Sahih al-Bukhari 2617: Book 51, Hadith 49
Narrated Anas bin Malik:
A Jewess brought a poisoned (cooked) sheep for the Prophet (ﷺ) who ate from it. She was brought to the Prophet and he was asked, "Shall we kill her?" He said, "No." I continued to see the effect of the poison on the palate of the mouth of Allah's Messenger


3. Sunan Abi Dawud 4512 : Book 41, Hadith 19
Narrated Abu Hurairah:
.....
This version adds: So a Jewess presented him at Khaybar with a roasted sheep which she had poisoned. The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) ate of it and the people also ate.
He then said: Take away your hands (from the food), for it has informed me that it is poisoned. Bishr ibn al-Bara' ibn Ma'rur
al-Ansari died.
So he (the Prophet) sent for the Jewess (and said to her): What motivated you to do the work you have done?
She said: If you were a prophet, it would not harm you; but if you were a king, I should rid the people of you. The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) then ordered regarding her and she was killed.
He then said about the pain of which he died: I continued to feel pain from the morsel which I had eaten at Khaybar.
This is the time when it has cut off my
aorta.
Re: The Proof that Allah Killed Muhammad For Falsifying The Quran? by TenQ: 5:04am On Jun 17, 2023
honesttalk21:
Didn't the Prophet Muhammad come to know the lamb meat was poisoned before consuming much of it?
"I said to myself: If he is a prophet he will be
informed. The sheep will inform him of what I did."

I feel as if [/b]my aorta is being cut from that poison

The phrase as if is used when
giving a possible explanation for something or saying that something appears to be the case [b]when it is not.


Who should we believe : You or Mohammed?
1. If Mohammed knew that the meat was poisoned, he must be one of the most wicked human beings on earth.
Even if he has the antidote, the fact that he didn't stop Bishr ibn al-Bara' ibn Ma'rur
al-Ansari from eating it till he died in their presence .

2. Mohammed clearly attributed his sickness to the meat he eat. Should we believe him or you?
Mohammed himself said:

Mohammed's Testimony:
1. Sahih al-Bukhari 4428
Narrated 'Aisha: The Prophet in his ailment in which he died, used to say, "O 'Aisha! I still feel the pain caused by the food I ate at Khaibar, and at this time, I feel as if my aorta is being cut from that poison."


2. Sahih al-Bukhari 2617: Book 51, Hadith 49
Narrated Anas bin Malik:
A Jewess brought a poisoned (cooked) sheep for the Prophet (ﷺ) who ate from it. She was brought to the Prophet and he was asked, "Shall we kill her?" He said, "No." I continued to see the effect of the poison on the palate of the mouth of Allah's Messenger


3. Sunan Abi Dawud 4512 : Book 41, Hadith 19
Narrated Abu Hurairah:
.....
This version adds: So a Jewess presented him at Khaybar with a roasted sheep which she had poisoned. The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) ate of it and the people also ate.
He then said: Take away your hands (from the food), for it has informed me that it is poisoned. Bishr ibn al-Bara' ibn Ma'rur
al-Ansari died.
So he (the Prophet) sent for the Jewess (and said to her): What motivated you to do the work you have done?
She said: If you were a prophet, it would not harm you; but if you were a king, I should rid the people of you. The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) then ordered regarding her and she was killed.
He then said about the pain of which he died: I continued to feel pain from the morsel which I had eaten at Khaybar.
This is the time when it has cut off my
aorta.
Re: The Proof that Allah Killed Muhammad For Falsifying The Quran? by honesttalk21: 9:08am On Jun 17, 2023
In Sunan Abi Dawud 4512 book 41 Hadith 19, Muhammad pbuh says in the 3rd paragraph:
He then said: Take away your hands (from the food), for it has informed me that it is poisoned. Bishr ibn al-Bara' ibn Ma'rur al-Ansari died.

In Sahih Buhari 4428 the Prophet says
I feel as if [/b]my aorta is being cut from that poison

My initial response refers to the meaning of the phrase AS IF.
This phase refers to [b]when you are giving a possible explanation for something or saying that something appears to be the case when it is not


Go ask an English specialist would you.
Re: The Proof that Allah Killed Muhammad For Falsifying The Quran? by ItsReal: 10:29am On Jun 17, 2023
Re: The Proof that Allah Killed Muhammad For Falsifying The Quran? by FxMasterz: 3:06pm On Jun 27, 2023
honesttalk21:
In Sunan Abi Dawud 4512 book 41 Hadith 19, Muhammad pbuh says in the 3rd paragraph:
He then said: Take away your hands (from the food), for it has informed me that it is poisoned. Bishr ibn al-Bara' ibn Ma'rur al-Ansari died.

In Sahih Buhari 4428 the Prophet says
I feel as if [/b]my aorta is being cut from that poison

My initial response refers to the meaning of the phrase AS IF.
This phase refers to [b]when you are giving a possible explanation for something or saying that something appears to be the case when it is not


Go ask an English specialist would you.




The problem is not whether the poison cut off his aorta or not. The problem is that his aorta was cut off. Allah said he'll cut off Mohammed's aorta to prove him a liar. Whether it was a poison that cut it off or not is not the issue. The issue is that Allah cut off his aorta because he was a liar.

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