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Re: Dangote's Fuel Monopoly Risks Soaring Petrol Prices - Joe Ajaero by VULCAN(m): 12:57am On Jun 05, 2023
You APC urrchi.nns keep repeating the same mantra like well fed parrots.

While Jonathan paid $2B in his last year, anti corruption Czar Buhari has been paying over $10B

The marketers and NNPC officials have become rich beyond their wildest dreams due to a President who looked the other way.

How daft to say that BUA is finishing his refinery next year.

Did you give him money to build it?

So you expect a businessman to sell you petrol at the same price as the govt?

You must be delirious.

Dangote himself that sells cement cheaper in Ghana is the one that you dummies are waiting to sell you cheap fuel.

Anyway, you guys that whitewash govt are not involved in any productive activities so you don't know how life works


renderme:
This IMO state guy is just being partisan. Everyone knows BUA will also finish his refinery next year.

What are the other options this country has? Government can’t run any business. All their refineries keep swallowing money & is useless.

Subsidy is a pit that also swallows money wt no benefit for expansion. Subsidy is gone. The goal is increasing states revenue generation and providing a living minimum wage.

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Re: Dangote's Fuel Monopoly Risks Soaring Petrol Prices - Joe Ajaero by N3TRAL: 12:58am On Jun 05, 2023
BOUNTYDOG:


He may have a point
When lafarge BUA et al were competing with him
He slashed the price of cement down to 1k sometin,the competitors wonders how Damgote makes his profit as dey were selling at loss
So dey had to leave the market for him, after they left je hijacked the price back

Dangote is just a business man working for Nigeriàn govt
They invest for him and make sure every decision favors him

Temporary loss to make profit in the long term after gaining control of the market 😂

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Re: Dangote's Fuel Monopoly Risks Soaring Petrol Prices - Joe Ajaero by thegooddieyoung: 12:58am On Jun 05, 2023
Broh pls wake up, these men do not really care about you and I



flokii:
I believe President Tinubu won't allow such... the man is pro-Nigeria and monopoly in whatsoever form is anti-Nigeria and anti-people.

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Re: Dangote's Fuel Monopoly Risks Soaring Petrol Prices - Joe Ajaero by MelesZanawi: 12:59am On Jun 05, 2023
OfoIgbo:


Peter Obi additionally proposed granting licences to modular refineries. That would have been a game changer as
1. They will be operating in naira
2. The fact that there will be a number of them will automatically guarantee competition with the resultant low price of fuel, perhaps even around the N100 per litre level or less

That has already been done. Obi is a dunce without innovative thinking.

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Re: Dangote's Fuel Monopoly Risks Soaring Petrol Prices - Joe Ajaero by HacheNoire: 1:00am On Jun 05, 2023
nairalanda1:
Well, considering that 20 other refining licences were issued the question is, why didn't the other refining licences start work?

The cold reason is because subsidy meant that there won't be profits made from selling the petrol refined at any refinery. It is the main reason why we lost all our NNPC refineries...because we were cutting corners to keep costs low....and by extension subsidy costs low.

Dangote was the only one who took a risk. And he got loans from the banks to do so...because the banks know that in case of failure, they would just take over his businesses and pay themselves their money back. Simple.

The cold fact is that keeping petrol at a cost below the production price is why most of the refinery licence owners...except for the one in Edo, the BUA refinery and a few others, did not start work,

Hopefully, things will change with the refinery coming up.



God bless your mother!
Re: Dangote's Fuel Monopoly Risks Soaring Petrol Prices - Joe Ajaero by Benwallt(m): 1:01am On Jun 05, 2023
This Igbo smoker is the NLC chairman. He should be rounded up and hurl into a furnace

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Re: Dangote's Fuel Monopoly Risks Soaring Petrol Prices - Joe Ajaero by HacheNoire: 1:01am On Jun 05, 2023
OfoIgbo:


Peter Obi additionally proposed granting licences to modular refineries. That would have been a game changer as
1. They will be operating in naira
2. The fact that there will be a number of them will automatically guarantee competition with the resultant low price of fuel, perhaps even around the N100 per litre level or less

That’s has been done already, say something else!

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Re: Dangote's Fuel Monopoly Risks Soaring Petrol Prices - Joe Ajaero by zanshi: 1:03am On Jun 05, 2023
The truth is that NNPC messed up, when you have a sensitive position of such being given to a intellectually bereft person in the name of kyari, you should expect the worst. If you look at Buhari's govt and their acts with pricing of petroleum products, they haven't in most cases made it official what they adjusted price of petrol would be, they would let PENGASSAN create these artificial scaricty which would linger for so long and destroy economic productivity to the extent that NNPC would feign ignorance and now bid to the callling of unscruplous pricing of black market sellers.

Prior to the tail end of last year when these artificial scarcity crept up in most of our city centers, knowing fully well that subsidy has already been yanked off the 2023 budget, NNPC ought to act dilligently and inform Nigerians and business on what the proposed oil price would be without subsidy. Instead they kept quiet and continued to act unaware till unscruplous marketers hijacked the situation to dictate what the oil price should be which is x3 it's original price a few weeks aback.

Never in the history of Nigeria has the price of petrol even with a little increment been made ballooned three times it's retail price in such a short period of time. There are questions to be asked

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Re: Dangote's Fuel Monopoly Risks Soaring Petrol Prices - Joe Ajaero by toneroforever(m): 1:06am On Jun 05, 2023
The way Tinubu's people reason makes one understand why Nigeria will take a long time to work.
Tribalism over everything.

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Re: Dangote's Fuel Monopoly Risks Soaring Petrol Prices - Joe Ajaero by nnamdi640: 1:07am On Jun 05, 2023
tsdarkside:


soo,nigeria should be usin most of the revenue for subsidy and take loans for other things....

i understand people like you sha....a hungry man is a angry man....
or how does that sayin go again.... undecided undecided
Money that will be embezzled if they don't use it for subsidy. What happened to all the loan they collected for project, even the money they borrowed for China for locomotive train was also embezzled. Since they refused to put our refineries in order but rush to commission the refinery a single man built, they will continue to pay for subsidy except they want to set the country on fire.
Re: Dangote's Fuel Monopoly Risks Soaring Petrol Prices - Joe Ajaero by HacheNoire: 1:10am On Jun 05, 2023
toneroforever:
The way Tinubu's people reason makes one understand why Nigeria will take a long time to work.
Tribalism over everything.

What fvckin tribalism!

If you want to go that route, tell your kinsmen to rise to the stage!

Dangote is open to competition! Whoever feels he got to the guts should come-up!

The stage is open!

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Re: Dangote's Fuel Monopoly Risks Soaring Petrol Prices - Joe Ajaero by tsdarkside(m): 1:10am On Jun 05, 2023
nnamdi640:
Money that will be embezzled if they don't use it for subsidy. What happened to all the loan they collected for project, even the money they borrowed for China for locomotive train was also embezzled. Since they refused to put our refineries in order but rush to commission the refinery a single man built, they will continue to pay for subsidy except they want to set the country on fire.

better calm down before police deal with your fvckup....

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Re: Dangote's Fuel Monopoly Risks Soaring Petrol Prices - Joe Ajaero by 9jaRealist: 1:11am On Jun 05, 2023
BOUNTYDOG:
He may have a point
When lafarge BUA et al were competing with him
He slashed the price of cement down to 1k sometin,the competitors wonders how Damgote makes his profit as dey were selling at loss
So dey had to leave the market for him, after they left je hijacked the price back

Dangote is just a business man working for Nigeriàn govt
They invest for him and make sure every decision favors him

So BUA and LaFarge are now out of the cement business? shocked

Because the last I checked…
BUA has a profitable multi-billion cement business while LaFarge is the world’s largest cement producer.
>

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Re: Dangote's Fuel Monopoly Risks Soaring Petrol Prices - Joe Ajaero by tsdarkside(m): 1:13am On Jun 05, 2023
franchasofficia:
Most of you lack common sense.


Every country in the world subsidize certain things for their citizens to live a great quality life. National money or wealth is not meant for the luxury of the political leaders but for the wellbeing of the entire citizens of a country, same does not apply to Nigeria and the dumb citizens support their oppressors parading themselves as political leaders all because they come from their tribe or religion.



Let me educate you, if petrol subsidy have outlived its usefulness in Nigeria and Nigerians have collectively agreed to let it go, then the government must start a wide consultation and carry out honest feasibility studies on how to gradually phase out the subsidy regime within a stipulated timeframe to ensure the impact doesn't weigh the citizens down.



You don't just wake up and remove petrol subsidy without rolling out real palliatives and creating environment that will absorb most of the hardship that will come with subsidy removal.



First, increase worker's minimum wage. The minimum wage in the US is around $2,000 or so and petrol is sold at 350 naira per liter in the US, but minimum wage in Nigeria is around $65 and petrol now sells at 550 to 650 naira in Nigeria and you are here blabbing that Nigerians should buy petrol at international price when they don't earn at international wage.



Before you remove subsidy on petrol, map out say a 6month phasing out process. Before then, add lanes for bicycles in key Nigerian city roads, buy bicycles, electric powered scooters and sell to Nigerians at subsidized price of say 60%. Make it available through LGAs, CDAs, Churches, Mosques, Private Organizations, Community leaders/Chiefs, etc.



Work on power supply and ensure major cities are getting at least 12hrs electricity supply in a day to reduce household and business consumption of petrol.


Roll out buses, coasters, etc to ferry Nigerian workers and market people at subsidized fare.



Invest hugely on solar energy, inverters, etc and push to rural areas and farm settlements.


Issue refinery licensed to more industrialists and give them timeframe they must start operation or it will be withdrawn.


Issue petrol import license to more importers to bring in petrol at competitive price pending when local refineries start full production.



And then you can remove 50% first phase and observe the impact for 2 months then 70% for another 2 months and 100% the next 2 months and in 6 months you have completely removed the petrol subsidy with less negative impact on the citizens and the economy

chaii....why are you written a epistle....??
na soo he pain you reach....

and what makes you think i would read all that....

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Re: Dangote's Fuel Monopoly Risks Soaring Petrol Prices - Joe Ajaero by Nobody: 1:14am On Jun 05, 2023
kingsways:
It makes no sense to say market forces will determine price when you have only one supplier in the market
The price is determined by crude oil price in the international market, a big refinery definitely don't want to be keeping stocks , they want to sell quickly and keep there margins, there is nothing like one player. He just want to use Dangote's name to be catching cruise, he is not talking about the trillions we lose via smuggling to other countries, because he is now Partisan.

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Re: Dangote's Fuel Monopoly Risks Soaring Petrol Prices - Joe Ajaero by staga: 1:14am On Jun 05, 2023
nairalanda1:
Well, considering that 20 other refining licences were issued the question is, why didn't the other refining licences start work?

The cold reason is because subsidy meant that there won't be profits made from selling the petrol refined at any refinery. It is the main reason why we lost all our NNPC refineries...because we were cutting corners to keep costs low....and by extension subsidy costs low.

Dangote was the only one who took a risk. And he got loans from the banks to do so...because the banks know that in case of failure, they would just take over his businesses and pay themselves their money back. Simple.

The cold fact is that keeping petrol at a cost below the production price is why most of the refinery licence owners...except for the one in Edo, the BUA refinery and a few others, did not start work,

Hopefully, things will change with the refinery coming up.


I am not sure you were born by 1988 when the 2nd PH refinery (catalytic cracking unit added to the 1965 Alesa Eleme refinery) was commissioned. I watched the documentaries on NTA PH back then with all the promises that were made.

I also don't know how old you were in 1998 when Abacha and Dan Etete killed all the refineries so Abacha's daughter could import fuel from her refinery in Brazil. Bad fuel that knocked a lot of engines that year.

All this subsidy talk is complete BS. NNPC is lying with numbers. Remember when they said Nigeria was using 60 million litres per day and Customs came forward to debunk those figures?

How much is Nigeria paying for imported fuel? What's the differential, if any? Who are the beneficiaries?

What is Saudi Aramco and China's SNEPCO doing that NNPC failed to do since 1972?

Ask the right questions and seek answers to them and stop regurgitating government propaganda used to cover up the trillions they and their cohorts have been milking from fake subsidy.

There is nothing like subsidy.

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Re: Dangote's Fuel Monopoly Risks Soaring Petrol Prices - Joe Ajaero by plaindealer: 1:15am On Jun 05, 2023
As it stands, tens of thousands of Nigerians are employed by the Dangote refinery complex and over two hundred thousand Nigerian workers are st to be employed by the refinery complect when it's fully up and running, on top of the massive and positive economic collateral effects via the industrial end users of the ammonia and petrochemical raw materials, even the immense IGR sees nothing but his self induced and blurred partisan vision of monopoly.

Is it also a monopoly that Dangote is the largest employer of labor in the private sector, or this man is saying their paychecks won't put food on the table or the banks won't accept their paychecks because it's from a monopoly?

The NLC's number one concern is the welfare and well-being of Nigerian workers including hundreds of thousands of Dangote workers across the country.

This man and his labor party NLC sat comfortably and quietly during the CBN naira change, they did not say a word, they watch Nigerian workers groan in pain simply because it was all about denying Tinubu the presidency.

No, all of a sudden, they care about the Nigerian workers all because of the same subsidy removal that they saw coming months ago, the same subsidy removal that all the presidential candidates including their own Peter Obi promised to stop immediately.

Fortunately, this man and his destructing, unpatriotic elements and economic saboteurs are on their own, the Nigerian workers are not interested in his anti-Nigerian partisan nonsense.

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Re: Dangote's Fuel Monopoly Risks Soaring Petrol Prices - Joe Ajaero by HacheNoire: 1:16am On Jun 05, 2023
BOUNTYDOG:


He may have a point
When lafarge BUA et al were competing with him
He slashed the price of cement down to 1k sometin,the competitors wonders how Damgote makes his profit as dey were selling at loss
So dey had to leave the market for him, after they left je hijacked the price back

Dangote is just a business man working for Nigeriàn govt
They invest for him and make sure every decision favors him

Do you know the major shareholders of Tesla, Alphabet, NVIDIA or Amazon?

You make it look like it’s only in Nigeria that government officials invest in private firms.

If anyone cannot rise to the stage and play same way Dangote is playing, then that person should shut the flying fvck up!

With over 30 licenses issued, some unscrupulous lots still have effrontery to accuse the man that made do with it, of monopoly!

These are just pained bitter hogs!

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Re: Dangote's Fuel Monopoly Risks Soaring Petrol Prices - Joe Ajaero by staga: 1:17am On Jun 05, 2023
plaindealer:
As it stands, tens of thousands of Nigerians are employed by the Dangote refinery complex and over two hundred thousand Nigerian workers are st to be employed by the refinery complect when it's fully up and running, on top of the massive and positive economic collateral effects via the industrial end users of the ammonia and petrochemical raw materials, even the immense IGR sees nothing but his self induced and blurred partisan vision of monopoly.

Is it also a monopoly that Dangote is the largest employer of labor in the private sector, or this man is saying their paychecks won't put food on the table or the banks won't accept their paychecks because it's from a monopoly?

The NLC's number one concern is the welfare and well-being of Nigerian workers including hundreds of thousands of Dangote workers across the country.

This man and his labor party NLC sat comfortably and quietly during the CBN naira change, they did not say a word, they watch Nigerian workers groan in pain simply because it was all about denying Tinubu the presidency.

No, all of a sudden, they care about the Nigerian workers all because of the same subsidy removal that they saw coming months ago, the same subsidy removal that all the presidential candidates including their own Peter Obi promised to stop immediately.

Fortunately, this man and his destructing, unpatriotic elements and economic saboteurs are on their own, the Nigerian workers are not interested in his anti-Nigerian partisan nonsense.

Labour is not against subsidy removal. Labour is saying that there ought to be palliatives up and running, including the CNG that was promised everyone which I hear wont cost more than N90 per litre.

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Re: Dangote's Fuel Monopoly Risks Soaring Petrol Prices - Joe Ajaero by nnamdi640: 1:17am On Jun 05, 2023
tsdarkside:


better calm down before police deal with your fvckup....
Did you see me saying I will set it on fire, the action he took can set the country on fire, go and read how Arab spring started, then you will understand what I mean. About 70% of Nigerians working day and night can't afford comfortable three square meals and now he want to add to their suffering, I just pity him.

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Re: Dangote's Fuel Monopoly Risks Soaring Petrol Prices - Joe Ajaero by HacheNoire: 1:20am On Jun 05, 2023
nnamdi640:
Did you see me saying I will set it on fire, the action he took can set the country on fire, go and read how Arab spring started, then you will understand what I mean. About 70% of Nigerians working day and night can't afford comfortable three square meals and now he want to add to their suffering, I just pity him.

Are you a graduate?

Who is setting what on fire?

That a businessman is dominating available space ?

Tell me? I want to listen. What’s your major problem with Dangote?

Please don’t mention Monopoly as I am highly educated and will NEVER welcome such frivolous and baseless excuses.

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Re: Dangote's Fuel Monopoly Risks Soaring Petrol Prices - Joe Ajaero by zedegit: 1:20am On Jun 05, 2023
kingsways:
It makes no sense to say market forces will determine price when you have only one supplier in the market

Tell that to Tinubu. Imposing an illiterate as president has consequences.


I thought people learnt that with Buhari.

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Re: Dangote's Fuel Monopoly Risks Soaring Petrol Prices - Joe Ajaero by toneroforever(m): 1:22am On Jun 05, 2023
HacheNoire:


What fvckin tribalism!

If you want to go that route, tell your kinsmen to rise to the stage!

Dangote is open to competition! Whoever feels he got to the guts should come-up!

The stage is open!

I find it very hard to comprehend what u guys really stand for. Should u allow sentiments becloud ur opinions?
Prices of goods and services have skyrocketed as a consequence of subsidy removal.
Now the organized labour is trying to reduce the sufferings of over 92% of Nigerians which u r a part of. NLC is telling the govt to revert to the old price before they can negotiate & u guys are calling them names.
In 2012, Tinubu & co opposed it & as long as the masses profit from it,I have no problems with it.
His party, APC has been in power for 8 years & embezzled billions of dollars meant for refineries' repairs yet u guys never condemned ur criminal lords.

Try & make sense, just sense.
If u involve ur sentiments and emotions,they will betray ur biases & affiliations.

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Re: Dangote's Fuel Monopoly Risks Soaring Petrol Prices - Joe Ajaero by GeneralPula: 1:26am On Jun 05, 2023
Johnn74:

0,5% conpleted, shocked Seriously?
Always try to verify things..

https://www.nairaland.com/7685328/dangote-refinery-begins-operations-amid
Re: Dangote's Fuel Monopoly Risks Soaring Petrol Prices - Joe Ajaero by HacheNoire: 1:27am On Jun 05, 2023
toneroforever:


I find it very hard to comprehend what u guys really stand for. Should u allow sentiments becloud ur opinions?
Prices of goods and services have skyrocketed as a consequence of subsidy removal.
Now the organized labour is trying to reduce the sufferings of over 92% of Nigerians which u r a part of. NLC is telling the govt to revert to the old price before they can negotiate & u guys are calling them names.
In 2012, Tinubu & co opposed it & as long as the masses profit from it,I have no problems with it.
His party, APC has been in power for 8 years & embezzled billions of dollars meant for refineries' repairs yet u guys never condemned ur criminal lords.

Try & make sense, just sense.
If u involve ur sentiments and emotions,they will betray ur biases & affiliations.

Your novel did not address my point.

What’s your major issue with Dangote?

That he executed with a license that over 30 individuals/company’s got?

Oh! He handcuffed and jailed the other people holding that license.

I repeat again, tell your kinsmen to rise to the stage, and stop pulling a successfully man down.

Nokia and blackberry took a bow in the mobile industry when Apple raised the bar. No one called it monopoly.

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Re: Dangote's Fuel Monopoly Risks Soaring Petrol Prices - Joe Ajaero by GeneralPula: 1:31am On Jun 05, 2023
Ezmans:
If evil apc allowed Obasanjo's sale of nigeria refineries to dangote & co and removing of subsidy by Jonathan we could have pass the state we are now
Was there Apc during Obasanjo?
Re: Dangote's Fuel Monopoly Risks Soaring Petrol Prices - Joe Ajaero by plaindealer: 1:33am On Jun 05, 2023
staga:


Labour is not against subsidy removal. Labour is saying that there ought to be palliatives up and running, including the CNG that was promised everyone which I hear wont cost more than N90 per litre.



Unfortunately for you, this is their self-made afterthought and disingenuous narrative, the FG offered palliatives already and is willing to dialogue with them, the NLC is not interested in any palliative or solutions, they just want to strike.

The Nigerian workers suffered more during the naira exchange, but they did not strike or even say a word.

They are on their own because the majority of the people of Nigeria are ok with subsidy removal and the only NLC people going on strike are the SE NLC, the rest of the country moved on already.

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Re: Dangote's Fuel Monopoly Risks Soaring Petrol Prices - Joe Ajaero by plaindealer: 1:36am On Jun 05, 2023
Partisan NLC leader frolicking and camping with Peter Obi, even in LP's Aso Ebi uniform.


We know all about this script and where it came from.. grin grin

Re: Dangote's Fuel Monopoly Risks Soaring Petrol Prices - Joe Ajaero by BOUNTYDOG(m): 1:42am On Jun 05, 2023
9jaRealist:


So BUA and LaFarge are now out of the cement business? shocked

Because the last I checked…
BUA has a profitable multi-billion cement business while LaFarge is the world’s largest cement producer.
>

This happened years ago,if u can remember when cement was sold for 1k plus they left the market for him,they are just coming back unlike before he slashed the price

Even now go to random cement dealers and say u want lafarge
Most of dem dont have it but Dangote
Re: Dangote's Fuel Monopoly Risks Soaring Petrol Prices - Joe Ajaero by nnamdi640: 1:45am On Jun 05, 2023
HacheNoire:


Are you a graduate?

Who is setting what on fire?

That a businessman is dominating available space ?

Tell me? I want to listen. What’s your major problem with Dangote?

Please don’t mention Monopoly as I am highly educated and will NEVER welcome such frivolous and baseless excuses.
By the time the prices of good and services skyrocket in few weeks to come as a result of subsidy remover then you will know that many Nigerians won't be able to endure the suffering again. There are way this subsidy can be removed without hurting many people. If they can borrow money to built locomotive railway and buy locomotive trains, then what stop them from making our refineries works. They borrowed billions of dollars just to construct railway to republic of Niger but are not interested in making the refineries works and you are here defending rubbish.
Re: Dangote's Fuel Monopoly Risks Soaring Petrol Prices - Joe Ajaero by BOUNTYDOG(m): 1:45am On Jun 05, 2023
9jaRealist:


So BUA and LaFarge are now out of the cement business? shocked

Because the last I checkedXff
BUA has a profitable multi-billion cement business while LaFarge is the world’s largest cement producer.
>

This happened years ago,if u can remember when cement was sold for 1k plus they left the market for him,they are just coming back unlike before he slashed the price

Even now go to random cement dealers and say u want lafarge
Most of dem dont have it but Dangote

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