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King Leopold's Letter To The Christian Missionaries.an Interesting Read by cold(m): 4:03am On Oct 05, 2011 |
Could this explain the docility of the Nigerian Christian till this day? Read on. . . Letter from King Leopold II of Belgium to Colonial Missionaries, 1883 “Reverends, Fathers and Dear Compatriots: The task that is given to fulfill is very delicate and requires much tact. You will go certainly to evangelize, but your evangelization must inspire above all Belgium interests. Your principal objective in our mission in the Congo is never to teach the niggers to know God, this they know already. They speak and submit to a Mungu, one Nzambi, one Nzakomba, and what else I don't know. They know that to kill, to sleep with someone else's wife, to lie and to insult is bad. Have courage to admit it; you are not going to teach them what they know already. Your essential role is to facilitate the task of administrators and industrials, which means you will go to interpret the gospel in the way it will be the best to protect your interests in that part of the world. For these things, you have to keep watch on disinteresting our savages from the richness that is plenty [in their underground. To avoid that, they get interested in it, and make you murderous] competition and dream one day to overthrow you. Your knowledge of the gospel will allow you to find texts ordering, and encouraging your followers to love poverty, like “Happier are the poor because they will inherit the heaven” and, “It's very difficult for the rich to enter the kingdom of God.” You have to detach from them and make them disrespect everything which gives courage to affront us. I make reference to their Mystic System and their war fetish – warfare protection – which they pretend not to want to abandon, and you must do everything in your power to make it disappear. Your action will be directed essentially to the younger ones, for they won't revolt when the recommendation of the priest is contradictory to their parent's teachings. The children have to learn to obey what the missionary recommends, who is the father of their soul. You must singularly insist on their total submission and obedience, avoid developing the spirit in the schools, teach students to read and not to reason. There, dear patriots, are some of the principles that you must apply. You will find many other books, which will be given to you at the end of this conference. Evangelize the niggers so that they stay forever in submission to the white colonialists, so they never revolt against the restraints they are undergoing. Recite every day – “Happy are those who are weeping because the kingdom of God is for them.” 5 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: King Leopold's Letter To The Christian Missionaries.an Interesting Read by cold(m): 4:09am On Oct 05, 2011 |
It continues. . . Convert always the blacks by using the whip. Keep their women in nine months of submission to work freely for us. Force them to pay you in sign of recognition-goats, chicken or eggs-every time you visit their villages. And make sure that niggers never become rich. Sing every day that it's impossible for the rich to enter heaven. Make them pay tax each week at Sunday mass. Use the money supposed for the poor, to build flourishing business centres. Institute a confessional system, which allows you to be good detectives denouncing any black that has a different consciousness contrary to that of the decision-maker. Teach the niggers to forget their heroes and to adore only ours. Never present a chair to a black that comes to visit you. Don't give him more than one cigarette. Never invite him for dinner even if he gives you a chicken every time you arrive at his house. “The above speech which shows the real intention of the Christian missionary journey in Africa was exposed to the world by Mr. Moukouani Muikwani Bukoko, born in the Congo in 1915, and who in 1935 while working in the Congo, bought a second hand Bible from a Belgian priest who forgot the speech in the Bible. I have left out some aspects of the letter which I deem irrelevant considering the length of the letter so as not to bore you with too many details.However, if you feel like reading the write up in its entirety you can go here; [url]http://www.fafich.ufmg.br/~luarnaut/Letter%20Leopold%20II%20to%20Colonial%20Missionaries.pdf[/url] 3 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: King Leopold's Letter To The Christian Missionaries.an Interesting Read by harakiri(m): 5:55am On Oct 05, 2011 |
Very interesting article. I'm pretty sure a lot of christians have read it but where are their responses? Talking about the letter, the slave trading invaders were solely interested in keeping blacks in bondage but even today with all the education and exposure, a lot of blacks are still tied to that old mentality. You'll see how some so called born again christians will "analyse" all that was written in that letter. They'll turn everything on its head,accuse you of being confused and even as you "what is your reason" for posting this. In the end,its obvious the shackles are still there. A lot of Africans don't think independently. They want to be led and told what to do (slave mentality). Pastors are the ones who have tapped into this "resource" and they are milking Nigerians on a daily basis. They keep preaching abundant wealth, mugus give tithes and offerings,pastor's account gets fatter and he just bought his wife a mercedes S-550, poverty remains in the land. This is the cold reality of things but watch out and see how some religious folks will jump on this thread to deny the obvious. 6 Likes |
Re: King Leopold's Letter To The Christian Missionaries.an Interesting Read by Nobody: 7:48am On Oct 05, 2011 |
cold: Rubbish. Anyone can come and post anything from any source and make it look real. Post a reliable source , not some random letter pulled out from some dark corner of the Internet. |
Re: King Leopold's Letter To The Christian Missionaries.an Interesting Read by Sweetnecta: 7:59am On Oct 05, 2011 |
^^^^^^^^^^^ that woman tries sha. for her to be of normal disposition having you as baba omo is a great struggle or trial on her. you seem to be sitting on your thinking source; heart and the brain. you may be better to say the think was an evil man, if this is what he wrote. but say it is rubbish without investigation shows that you lack judgment that is appropriate to distinguish good from evil. to you i think anything that has attachment with christianity is good; george bush must be an angel. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3MN9382eGY&feature=fvst |
Re: King Leopold's Letter To The Christian Missionaries.an Interesting Read by Nobody: 8:03am On Oct 05, 2011 |
^^ Jihadist Emeritus !!! |
Re: King Leopold's Letter To The Christian Missionaries.an Interesting Read by Sweetnecta: 8:26am On Oct 05, 2011 |
I am a follower of Jesus of the bible in this matter. And many more. Say hello to madam. Tell her there is a man saying she dey try oo. |
Re: King Leopold's Letter To The Christian Missionaries.an Interesting Read by harakiri(m): 8:33am On Oct 05, 2011 |
@Sweetnecta, ROFLMAO! Nice one! |
Re: King Leopold's Letter To The Christian Missionaries.an Interesting Read by PastorAIO: 9:04am On Oct 05, 2011 |
frosbel: Actually it is a very famous historical document. I'm surprised you are still asking for reliable source. Maybe this is the first time you're hearing of King Leopold. 3 Likes |
Re: King Leopold's Letter To The Christian Missionaries.an Interesting Read by cold(m): 10:46am On Oct 05, 2011 |
frosbel:You want another proof sir?Well here is your proof.& I'm sure you'd be hard pressed to discredit this source too,since i've seen you use it countless times to butress your stories.Here goes: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/3516965.stm On second thought,I might just save you the rigor of clicking & post it here for your perusal. King Leopold's legacy of DR Congo violence Of the Europeans who scrambled for control of Africa at the end of the 19th century, Belgium's King Leopold II left arguably the largest and most horrid legacy of all. King Leopold II left arguably the largest and most horrid legacy While the Great Powers competed for territory elsewhere, the king of one of Europe's smallest countries carved his own private colony out of 100km2 of Central African rainforest. He claimed he was doing it to protect the "natives" from Arab slavers, and to open the heart of Africa to Christian missionaries, and Western capitalists. Instead, as the makers of BBC Four documentary White King, Red Rubber, Black Death powerfully argue, the king unleashed new horrors on the African continent. Torment and rape He turned his "Congo Free State" into a massive labour camp, made a fortune for himself from the harvest of its wild rubber, and contributed in a large way to the death of perhaps 10 million innocent people. I was so moved, Your Excellency, by the people's stories that I took the liberty of promising them that in future you will only kill them for crimes they commit John Harris Missionary in Baringa What is now called the Democratic Republic of Congo has clearly never recovered. "Legalized robbery enforced by violence", as Leopold's reign was described at the time, has remained, more or less, the template by which Congo's rulers have governed ever since. Meanwhile Congo's soldiers have never moved away from the role allocated to them by Leopold - as a force to coerce, torment and rape an unarmed civilian population. Chopping hands As the BBC's reporter in DR Congo, I covered stories that were loud echoes of what was happening 100 years earlier. Men who failed to bring enough rubber for agents were killed The film opens with the shocking images of some of Leopold's victims - children and adults whose right hands had been hacked off by his agents. They needed these to prove to their superiors that they had not been "wasting" their bullets on animals. This rule was seldom observed as soldiers kept shooting monkeys and then later chopping off human hands to provide their alibis. 'Foreign correspondents' Director Peter Bate uses documented accounts of such atrocities to present an imaginary court case against the monarch who he compares to a subsequent European tyrant, Adolf Hitler. He has an actor play the bearded, heavily-set Leopold, fidgeting nervously as damning testimonies are read out, compiled by the foreign correspondents of the day, the missionaries. John Harris of Baringa, for example, was so shocked by what he had come across that he felt moved to write a letter to Leopold's chief agent in the Congo. "I have just returned from a journey inland to the village of Insongo Mboyo. The abject misery and utter abandon is positively indescribable. I was so moved, Your Excellency, by the people's stories that I took the liberty of promising them that in future you will only kill them for crimes they commit." Positive legacy In the film's most powerful sequences we see reconstructions of the terror caused by Leopold's enforcers and agents. We see a village burnt without warning and its people rounded up; its men sent off into the forests, and its women tied up as hostages and helpless targets of abuse until their husbands return with enough wild rubber to satisfy the agent. This, we are told, was the "moment of truth" for the whole community. If the men did not bring back enough and the agent lost his commission, he would order the deaths of everyone. Children and adults had their hands chopped off There is no doubt that Congo's history, and White King, Red Rubber, Black Death are almost too upsetting to bear, however Leopold did leave, albeit unwittingly, one positive legacy - the birth of modern humanitarianism. The campaign to reveal the truth behind Leopold's "secret society of murderers," led by diplomat Roger Casement, and a former shipping clerk ED Morel, became the first mass human rights movement. Its successors like Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch and the Kinshasa-based Voix des Sans Voix and Journaliste En Danger mean abuses in modern day DR Congo can never be hidden for long. 2 Likes |
Re: King Leopold's Letter To The Christian Missionaries.an Interesting Read by Nobody: 10:51am On Oct 05, 2011 |
^^^ Okay I understand there is a small break down in our communication. I am under no iota of doubt that the crimes mentioned were committed, this is a historical fact. My contention is the letter you posted initially. Some aspects of this letter are not validated and require further clarification from reliable sources. |
Re: King Leopold's Letter To The Christian Missionaries.an Interesting Read by cold(m): 10:51am On Oct 05, 2011 |
In addition,If you are an omnivorous reader,you might want to read a book by Adam Hoschild; 'King Leopold's Ghost'.It is an interesting,gripping and spellbinding book that would shake your faith to its foundation. “An enthralling story, full of fascinating characters,intense drama, high adventure, deceitful manipulations,courageous truthtelling, and splendid moral fervor . . . A work of history that reads like a novel.” —Christian Science Monitor 3 Likes |
Re: King Leopold's Letter To The Christian Missionaries.an Interesting Read by PastorAIO: 11:18am On Oct 05, 2011 |
I wonder who Frosbel will consider a reliable source. I think you have to find that out first otherwise you'll find yourself coming up with one source after another only for him to reject it. |
Re: King Leopold's Letter To The Christian Missionaries.an Interesting Read by cold(m): 11:25am On Oct 05, 2011 |
I understand perfectly.It is often referred to as a state of denial.It's akin to hearing or seeing the loss of a loved one & refusing to believe or accept even when you know it's undeniably true |
Re: King Leopold's Letter To The Christian Missionaries.an Interesting Read by tpia5: 11:29am On Oct 05, 2011 |
People need to learn to let go of what you cant change or else you'll end up with serious mental instability. |
Re: King Leopold's Letter To The Christian Missionaries.an Interesting Read by tpia5: 11:32am On Oct 05, 2011 |
I dont know if the letter is fake or real (though it seems fake imo and even if it wasnt, well that's that. We're all aware of racism). But most times africans themselves collaborate with whites to keep themselves under. |
Re: King Leopold's Letter To The Christian Missionaries.an Interesting Read by cold(m): 11:46am On Oct 05, 2011 |
Here's an excerpt from the Catholic Encyclopedia, (Yes!You read right,Catholic Encyclopedia!)though they tried to water down the devious activities of the Christian missionaries & made it look like it was a necessary evil in order to save the Congolese from himself; The natives The irreligion and ignorance of the Congolese have often been exaggerated and misrepresented. They are not so debased as many pretend. They recognize a supreme God, Creator of all things, but they seem very largely to ignore His immediate Providence and His interventions in the affairs of this world. They believe in the existence of spirits, and admit to a metempsychosis more or less happy in a future life. Their worship is a species of gross fetishism, propagated by the sorcerers, whose influence is very great and often most pernicious. These sorcerers are the "wise men" of the Congo; they are consulted about everything. If misfortune comes or crime is committed, it is to them that recourse must be had, and whoever is designated by them as the cause of the evil must pass through the test of fire or of casque (poison drink). The State forbids such tests under most severe penalties. Superstitious fears and slavish attachments to amulets are the chief obstacles to conversion. Others are the practice of polygamy, largely due to the custom which prevents the wife from having any relations with her husband during the period of lactation — from two to three years — lest she should make her child unhappy; the cannibalism which exists in certain parts; ingrained habits of idleness; gross egoism; the worship of might as confounded with right — in short that sum of differences which separates, as by an abyss, the essentially pagan soul of the Congolese from the Christian conception of right and wrong which the missioners try to impart. [b]The excesses and the evil example of the Europeans themselves render the missionary's even more difficult. Add to this the abuse which, in the district where the rubber trade flourishes, or in the neighbourhood of towns, imposes a hard task of from fifteen to twenty days per month of forced labour instead of the forty hours fixed by the law; the unfortunate division between the Christian churches and the acts of petty opposition consequent thereon — and the problem is still further complicated. Nor is all ended when the Congolese is converted; he must be continually urged to hold fast to the gift he has received, for his fickleness is very great. Often he imagines that his obligation to remain a Christian ceases with the contract which binds him to a mission or to the service of Europeans. In the eastern part of Upper Congo the Arabs, who frequently make slave raids, have managed to win over to their religion many of the intelligent tribes of the Bakusus. These proselytes regard all their workmen as slaves for life; they are immoral, fanatic, and very hostile to the Gospel. [/b] The noble work of evangelization in the Congo, however, is far from being fruitless. As formerly under the Portuguese rule, so today the missionaries find souls in which their teaching takes firm root. Mgr. Augougard gives the example of a catechist of the tribe of Babois who, seeing the resources of the mission failing, undertook to feed and clothe the children of his school with the profits of his sewing-machine. The most intelligent part of the population inhabits the Domaine de la Couronne and is well disposed toward Christianity. Until 1908 these people were shut off from all immediate missionary influence; they were evangelized, however, by some of their countrymen who had become Christians while serving in the army. Many travelled long distances to see and speak with Catholic missionaries, and both men and women, nothing daunted, undertook perilous journeys in order to reach the missionary stations. It is not surprising therefore that the missionaries have been received everywhere with enthusiasm, and that the natives have offered to build their simple habitations and schools. http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/04228a.htm |
Re: King Leopold's Letter To The Christian Missionaries.an Interesting Read by cold(m): 11:58am On Oct 05, 2011 |
tpia@:I know it will look fake to you as well as millions of others who remain in a constant state of denial.Regardless,it is an incontrovertible fact that letter is as real as the sun rising in the East & setting in the West.It has an unarguable lofty position in the annals of history.Churned out so many books,write-ups,articles etc for over a hundred years. |
Re: King Leopold's Letter To The Christian Missionaries.an Interesting Read by harakiri(m): 12:02pm On Oct 05, 2011 |
@cold, Nice one. @Frosbel, Do you need more "reliable sources"? The poster has provided from one of your known "reliable sources" and the catholic encyclopedia but I'm sure you need more "sources". When it pays you, even play boy magazine is a credible source but when you are confounded with undeniable facts, you brush it aside as "unreliable". Aren't you ashamed? A grown man that can't face the heat. Shior. |
Re: King Leopold's Letter To The Christian Missionaries.an Interesting Read by PAGAN9JA(m): 12:45pm On Oct 05, 2011 |
the missionaries were run by the colonizing filth. *disgusting slavers religion. |
Re: King Leopold's Letter To The Christian Missionaries.an Interesting Read by maclatunji: 2:07pm On Oct 05, 2011 |
Without appealing to my religious beliefs. Anybody who has read Chinua Achebe's "Arrow of God" and is insightful will know that the Christian Missionaries are a deceitful bunch not to talk of Soyinka's "The Trials of Brother Jero." |
Re: King Leopold's Letter To The Christian Missionaries.an Interesting Read by Nobody: 2:24pm On Oct 05, 2011 |
Absolutely !!! But there were genuine missionaries who brought change and progress. But the Arab missionaries were 100 times worse - Fact |
Re: King Leopold's Letter To The Christian Missionaries.an Interesting Read by maclatunji: 3:40pm On Oct 05, 2011 |
frosbel: Muslim missionaries? You are projecting your Christian beliefs into Islam. |
Re: King Leopold's Letter To The Christian Missionaries.an Interesting Read by Nobody: 3:54pm On Oct 05, 2011 |
But do we know the response of the missionaries or are we automatically assuming (which seems to be inherent in the responses of many of the atheists here) the missionaries swallowed King Leopold's words hook, line and sinker? |
Re: King Leopold's Letter To The Christian Missionaries.an Interesting Read by maclatunji: 4:00pm On Oct 05, 2011 |
maclatunji: History is full of evidence of Christian Missionaries being complicit in the exploitation of the black man. I don't need old Leopold's letter to know that. |
Re: King Leopold's Letter To The Christian Missionaries.an Interesting Read by Nobody: 4:26pm On Oct 05, 2011 |
maclatunji: Apart from the fact that arab/muslim exploitation of the black man was FAR WORSE and still goes on today (see mauritius, saudi arabia, sudan, Iraq - where blacks are still known as abd/slave till date), it is quite clear and proven from history that many of those same christian missionaries are the reason colonial africa was a much better place economically than the africa of today. - christian missionaries brought us free schools, political literacy and infrastructure development . . . what did the muslims bring besides poverty, despair and the sword? Please see Mali, Niger for example. - Those same christian missionaries were instrumental to ending slavery . . . it still goes on in places like Mauritius. A muslim reacting to this thread as well? How hypocritical considering mohammad himself was a slave trader. |
Re: King Leopold's Letter To The Christian Missionaries.an Interesting Read by cold(m): 4:38pm On Oct 05, 2011 |
davidylan:From the horror stories that emanated from The Congo at the time,it was clear the missionaries were executing the actions of King Leopold to the latter.There was even a letter he wrote to President Roosevelt in 1915 that was published in the NY Times at the time,denying the plethora of atrocities the missionaries were undertaking. I'll dig it out when I have the time & post it here. davidylan:Is this some sort of justification |
Re: King Leopold's Letter To The Christian Missionaries.an Interesting Read by PastorAIO: 4:47pm On Oct 05, 2011 |
davidylan: Just how on earth this this thread become a Moslem vs Christian affair again? Na wa o!! So if two people are slapping you you will say at least the guy on the left is not slapping me as hard so I like him. This one pass me o. davidylan: "If the University of Sankore [, ] had survived the ravages of foreign invasions, the academic and cultural history of Africa might have been different from what it is today." Timbuktu was a world centre of Islamic learning from the 13th to the 17th century, especially under the Mali Empire and Askia Mohammad I's rule. The Malian government and NGOs have been working to catalog and restore the remnants of this scholarly legacy: Timbuktu’s manuscripts.[103] Hundreds of thousands of manuscripts were collected in Timbuktu over the course of centuries: some were written in the town itself, others – including exclusive copies of the Qur’an for wealthy families - imported through the lively booktrade. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timbuktu#World_Heritage_Site Jump to: navigation, searchhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timbuktu_Manuscripts |
Re: King Leopold's Letter To The Christian Missionaries.an Interesting Read by globexl: 10:41pm On Oct 05, 2011 |
Has anyone read the letter by Willie Lynch in 1772 titled "The making of a perfect slave" ? Here is the link. http://www.daveyd.com/willlynch.html |
Re: King Leopold's Letter To The Christian Missionaries.an Interesting Read by globexl: 10:44pm On Oct 05, 2011 |
Here is an example: The black slave, after receiving this indoctrination, shall carry on and will become self-refueling and self-generating for hundreds of years, maybe thousands. I "m weeping uncontrollably. |
Re: King Leopold's Letter To The Christian Missionaries.an Interesting Read by globexl: 10:48pm On Oct 05, 2011 |
Davidlan, Frosbel and Enigma, are you all reading this? See what bible-carrying maggots dd to the black race. " self-refeling and self-generating" WOW! Can we now see the root of all our problems like wars, distrust, envy and fear of one another? |
Re: King Leopold's Letter To The Christian Missionaries.an Interesting Read by Enigma(m): 7:59am On Oct 06, 2011 |
^^^ Why are you bringing up my name? What's your problem? You think even if the letter is genuine, it will change anything about my Christianity? In any event apart from assertion I haven't seen you or any of the other people on the thread vaunting the letter as a historical document provide any proof that it is genuine. I am aware that the letter has been circulating on the Net since circa 2005 but, while Leopold's brutality and barbarism is well known, I am not aware of any instance where this particular letter has been confirmed to be genuine. davidylan: Indeed your point is reflected if not even made by a proper reading of Post # 16 above. |
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