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JESUS CAME TO FULFILL MOSES LAW GIVEN BY GOD by Corrections: 3:19pm On Aug 03, 2023
The law of Moses refers to a collection of laws and commandments that were given to Moses by God according to the Hebrew Bible (Old Testament). Many people think Jesus has come to abolish the laws given by God to Moses and other prophets before him. Jesus knowing the thoughts of people in the Bible had to openly confess about his mission in this subjec matter when he was asked "what his mission was".

Matthew 5: 17-19
17“Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill. 18“For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished. 19“Whoever then annuls one of the least of these commandments, and teaches others to do the same, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever keeps and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

From the statement made by Jesus one could see how much respect he has for God's word and also showing us the quality of God's word. However, it is one task to know the laws of God given to moses and its another task completely to know the true interpretation of these laws of God given to Moses. Even though Jesus completely agreed with the people on validity of God's law given to moses and other prophets but disagreed with the same people on the true interpretation of these laws given to Moses and other prophets.

Matt 17:9-13

9 As they were coming down from the mountain, Jesus commanded them, saying, “Tell the vision to no one until the Son of Man has risen from the dead.” 10 And His disciples asked Him, “Why then do the scribes say that Elijah must come first?” 11 And He answered and said, “Elijah is coming and will restore all things; 12 but I say to you that Elijah already came, and they did not recognize him, but did to him whatever they wished. So also the Son of Man is going to suffer at their hands.” 13 Then the disciples understood that He had spoken to them about John the Baptist.

Here Jesus completely agrees (knowing fully well that God"s word stands forever) with the people that God had given his words to Moses and other prophets before moses concerning the signs to see when the messiah would come ( Here the people asked Jesus.....Why then do the scribes say that Elijah must come first?” 11 And He answered and said, “Elijah is coming and will restore all things.)

Where Jesus disagrees with them as concerning the law of moses is when they lack true ( heavenly ) interpretation of God's word given to these prophets.[/b] Just imagine the scenerio on ground where the people were still waiting for Elijah to come when in the reality of God's plan "Elijah already came and departed." This only means that they failed to connect to Gods own interpretation of his laws given to moses and other prophets before Moses.

The major problem these people have is "lack of committment to understand the true or detailed meaning of every Law given to moses and other prophets by God." Even though they were experts at understanding the detailed meaning associated to other things of the flesh, they were less concerned at going the extra mile connecting to God in understandig the things of heaven spoken concerning them. Here is another example below...

Matthew16:1-4
Then the Pharisees and Sadducees came, and testing Him asked that He should show them a sign from heaven. He answered and said to them, “When it is evening you say, ‘It will be fair weather, for the sky is red’; and in the morning, ‘It will be foul weather today, for the sky is red and threatening.’ Hypocrites! You know how to discern the face of the sky, but [b]you cannot discern the signs of the times A wicked and adulterous generation seeks after a sign, and no sign shall be given to it except the sign of the prophet Jonah.” And He left them and departed.

Jesus has come to show the world the true meaning to those laws of God given to moses and prophets before moses. Jesus therefore, has come to execute God's word given to Moses and other prophets before Moses.

Luke 24:44, Jesus says—

“This is what I told you while I was still with you: Everything must be fulfilled that is written about me in the Law of Moses, the Prophets and the Psalms.”

Another example in Moses law Jesus gave the true meaning to which the people had misinterpreted over the years is on divorce and murder.

Matthew 19:8-9

8 Jesus replied, “Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning. 9 I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery.”

Murder
In Matthew 5:21 - 26

Jesus amplified the meaning of the sixth commandment "thou shall not kill." He revealed that to commit murder is more than killing someone, it means having an angry and unforgiving attitude towards them (Matthew 5:21 - 26).

Where we should worship God

The Gospel of John 4:1–42 talks about the encounter between Jesus and the woman of Samaria. The discusson between Jesus and the Samaritan woman was about what the Law ( Moses law ) says about the right place to worship God.
The Samaritans believed that Mount Gerizim, not Jerusalem, was the place designated by God for worship. They once had a temple on the mountain which was near Sychar (Shechem), where this story takes place.

Question she asked...
19 “Sir,” the woman said, “I can see that you are a prophet. 20 Our ancestors worshiped on this mountain, but you Jews claim that the place where we must worship is in Jerusalem.”

Jesus' reply to the Samaritan woman about the true interpretation of Moses Law (which they lacked back then) as it relates to the right place to worship God.
21 “Woman,” Jesus replied, “believe me, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem. 22 You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews. 23 Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in the Spirit and in truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks. 24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in the Spirit and in truth.”

The statement does not rule out the relevance of the Temple, or any place of worship; it does, however, stress the point that such places do not make the people's worship more pleasant before God. Jesus’ statement suggests that while the designated places of worship are important, they are not the only places where God can be worshipped. The statement points to the fact that the hour is coming when worship will have to be outside the designated sites – “neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem.”[8] Jesus' words clearly state that the buildings or sites do not make the worship; the people do, and true worshippers worship in Spirit and in truth. Worship happens where the people are.

Therefore, Jesus has come to show us the true meaning of God's word given to moses and other prophets before Moses so as to deliver us from ignorances that limits us before God . No wonder the apostle says in the book of

Galatians 3:24
— New Living Translation (NLT)
24 Let me put it another way. The law was our guardian until Christ came; it protected us until we could be made right with God through faith.

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Re: JESUS CAME TO FULFILL MOSES LAW GIVEN BY GOD by MrPRevailer(m): 11:24pm On Aug 03, 2023
Jesus came to fulfill the law of Atonement.

In Moses law, blood of animals covers sin. Leviticus chapter 1,3,4,5,6
In the new Law, Blood of Jesus washes away sin. Hebrew 9:22

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Re: JESUS CAME TO FULFILL MOSES LAW GIVEN BY GOD by Corrections: 7:19am On Aug 04, 2023
Jesus came to give a true interpretation of the law given to moses by God!!!
Re: JESUS CAME TO FULFILL MOSES LAW GIVEN BY GOD by Dtruthspeaker: 7:40am On Aug 04, 2023
MrPRevailer:
Jesus came to fulfill the law of Atonement.

In Moses law, blood of animals covers sin. Leviticus chapter 1,3,4,5,6
In the new Law, Blood of Jesus washes away sin. Hebrew 9:22

He also fulfilled all The other Laws eg loving God, honoured his parents, did not take anyone's wife, did Judgment, upheld the poor in his cause, did not have respect of person etc.

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Re: JESUS CAME TO FULFILL MOSES LAW GIVEN BY GOD by Dtruthspeaker: 7:42am On Aug 04, 2023
Corrections:
Jesus came to give a true interpretation of the law given to moses by God!!!

It was still the same interpretation. Remember, He was the one Who taught Moses The Law
Re: JESUS CAME TO FULFILL MOSES LAW GIVEN BY GOD by Dtruthspeaker: 7:50am On Aug 04, 2023
Corrections:
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Where Jesus disagrees with them as concerning the law of moses is when they lack true ( heavenly ) interpretation of God's word given to these prophets.[/b] Just imagine the scenerio on ground where the people were still waiting for Elijah to come when in the reality of God's plan "Elijah already came and departed." This only means that they failed to connect to Gods own interpretation of his laws given to moses and other prophets before Moses...

As it occured to you that they were looking and waiting for Elijah so that they could kill him?

The bible shows that the jews hate God, so what else would they waiting for to do, like the present people called atheists?
Re: JESUS CAME TO FULFILL MOSES LAW GIVEN BY GOD by Dtruthspeaker: 7:58am On Aug 04, 2023
Corrections:
The major problem these people have is "lack of committment to understand the true or detailed meaning of every Law given to moses and other prophets by God."...

This is not True. Go reread the bible again and you would see that it always says they were always rebellious and disobeying and challenging God exactly as the atheists do today, all the way.

Therefore, like the atheists, they were not interested in God and His Commandments, for they understood that it was calling on them to change which they dont want.

Which is why you see Moses struggled against them and yet were they stubborn and loving to do evil.
Re: JESUS CAME TO FULFILL MOSES LAW GIVEN BY GOD by orisa37: 8:14am On Aug 04, 2023
AND PARAPHRASE THEM INTO "LOVE YOURSELVES AS YOURSELVES".
Re: JESUS CAME TO FULFILL MOSES LAW GIVEN BY GOD by MrPRevailer(m): 1:37pm On Aug 04, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:


He also fulfilled all The other Laws eg loving God, honoured his parents, did not take anyone's wife, did Judgment, upheld the poor in his cause, did not have respect of person etc.

This is righteousness which is the responsibility of every true worshipper of God. The children of Israel were required to keep all these laws.
Re: JESUS CAME TO FULFILL MOSES LAW GIVEN BY GOD by Dtruthspeaker: 1:50pm On Aug 04, 2023
MrPRevailer:


This is righteousness which is the responsibility of every true worshipper of God. The children of Israel were required to keep all these laws.

Absolutely correcto!
Re: JESUS CAME TO FULFILL MOSES LAW GIVEN BY GOD by Ken4Christ: 11:35pm On Aug 04, 2023
Corrections:
The law of Moses refers to a collection of laws and commandments that were given to Moses by God according to the Hebrew Bible (Old Testament). Many people think Jesus has come to abolish the laws given by God to Moses and other prophets before him. Jesus knowing the thoughts of people in the Bible had to openly confess about his mission in this subjec matter when he was asked "what his mission was".

Matthew 5: 17-19
17“Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill. 18“For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished. 19“Whoever then annuls one of the least of these commandments, and teaches others to do the same, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever keeps and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

From statement made by Jesus one could see how much respect he has for God's word and also showing us the quality of God's word. However, it is one task to know the laws of God given to moses and its another task completely to know the true interpretations of these laws of God given to Moses. Even though Jesus completely agreed with the people on validity of God's law given to moses and other prophets but disagreed with the same people on the true interpretation of these laws given to Moses and other prophets.

Matt 17:9-13

9 As they were coming down from the mountain, Jesus commanded them, saying, “Tell the vision to no one until the Son of Man has risen from the dead.” 10 And His disciples asked Him, “Why then do the scribes say that Elijah must come first?” 11 And He answered and said, “Elijah is coming and will restore all things; 12 but I say to you that Elijah already came, and they did not recognize him, but did to him whatever they wished. [/b]So also the Son of Man is going to suffer at their hands.” 13 Then the disciples understood that He had spoken to them about John the Baptist.

Here Jesus completely agrees (knowing fully well that God"s word stands forever) with the people that God had given his words to Moses and other prophets before moses concerning the signs to see when the messiah would come ( Here the people asked Jesus.....Why then do the scribes say that Elijah must come first?” 11 And He answered and said, “Elijah is coming and will restore all things.)

Where Jesus disagrees with them as concerning the law of moses is when they lack true ( heavenly ) interpretation of God's word given to these prophets.
Just imagine the scenerio on ground where the people were still waiting for Elijah to come when in the reality of God's plan "Elijah already came and departed." This only means that they failed to connect to Gods own interpretation of his laws given to moses and other prophets before Moses.

The major problem these people have is "lack of committment to understand the true or detailed meaning of every Law given to moses and other prophets by God." Even though they were experts at understanding the detailed meaning associated to other things of the flesh, they were less concerned at going the extra mile connecting to God in understandig the things of heaven spoken concerning them. Here is another example below...

Matthew16:1-4
Then the Pharisees and Sadducees came, and testing Him asked that He should show them a sign from heaven. He answered and said to them, “When it is evening you say, ‘It will be fair weather, for the sky is red’; and in the morning, ‘It will be foul weather today, for the sky is red and threatening.’ Hypocrites! You know how to discern the face of the sky, but you cannot discern the signs of the times. A wicked and adulterous generation seeks after a sign, and no sign shall be given to it except the sign of the prophet Jonah.” And He left them and departed.

Jesus has come to show the world the true meaning to those laws of God given to moses and prophets before moses. Jesus therefore, has come to execute God's word given to Moses and other prophets before Moses.

Luke 24:44, Jesus says—

“This is what I told you while I was still with you: Everything must be fulfilled that is written about me in the Law of Moses, the Prophets and the Psalms.”

Another example in Moses law Jesus gave the true meaning to which the people had misinterpreted over the years is on divorce and murder.

Matthew 19:8-9

8 Jesus replied, “Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning. 9 I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery.”

Murder
In Matthew 5:21 - 26

Jesus amplified the meaning of the sixth commandment "thou shall not kill." He revealed that to commit murder is more than killing someone, it means having an angry and unforgiving attitude towards them (Matthew 5:21 - 26).

Where we should worship God

The Gospel of John 4:1–42 talks about the encounter between Jesus and the woman of Samaria. The discusson between Jesus and the Samaritan woman was about what the Law ( Moses law ) says about the right place to worship God.
The Samaritans believed that Mount Gerizim, not Jerusalem, was the place designated by God for worship. They once had a temple on the mountain which was near Sychar (Shechem), where this story takes place.

Question she asked...
19 “Sir,” the woman said, “I can see that you are a prophet. 20 Our ancestors worshiped on this mountain, but you Jews claim that the place where we must worship is in Jerusalem.”

Jesus' reply to the Samaritan woman about the true interpretation of Moses Law (which they lacked back then) as it relates to the right place to worship God.
21 “Woman,” Jesus replied, “believe me, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem. 22 You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews. 23 Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in the Spirit and in truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks. 24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in the Spirit and in truth.”

The statement does not rule out the relevance of the Temple, or any place of worship; it does, however, stress the point that such places do not make the people's worship more pleasant before God. Jesus’ statement suggests that while the designated places of worship are important, they are not the only places where God can be worshipped. The statement points to the fact that the hour is coming when worship will have to be outside the designated sites – “neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem.”[8] Jesus' words clearly state that the buildings or sites do not make the worship; the people do, and true worshippers worship in Spirit and in truth. Worship happens where the people are.

Therefore, Jesus has come to show us the true meaning of God's word given to moses and other prophets before Moses so as to deliver us from ignorances that limits us before God . No wonder the apostle says in the book of

Galatians 3:24
— New Living Translation (NLT)
24 Let me put it another way. The law was our guardian until Christ came; it protected us until we could be made right with God through faith.

To fulfill in this context means to meet the requirements of the law after which it was abolished.

So, the law has been fulfilled and abolished. The church is not under the law of Moses.
Re: JESUS CAME TO FULFILL MOSES LAW GIVEN BY GOD by Dtruthspeaker: 8:27am On Aug 05, 2023
Ken4Christ:


To fulfill in this context means to meet the requirements of the law after which it was abolished.

So, the law has been fulfilled and abolished. The church is not under the law of Moses.

You are just letting devil use you. When you fulfilled the requirements of the law of American visa and green card things, did it get abolished or when you fulfilled the law of marriage, did you eradicate marriage?

You are doing exactly what atheists do in letting their wishes blind them from Truth and reason.

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Re: JESUS CAME TO FULFILL MOSES LAW GIVEN BY GOD by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:15am On Aug 05, 2023
The laws becomes obsolete after Christ it was meant to lead the Israelites to the Christ that's why God told them through Moses:

"I will raise up for them from the midst of their brothers a prophet like you, and I will put my words in his mouth, and he will speak to them all that I command him. Indeed, I will require an account from the man who will not listen to my words that he will speak in my name". Deuteronomy 18:18-19

So the constitution God gave Israel was to lead them and prepare their minds for the counsel of the Messiah who is the world's most wonderful counselor of all time {Isaiah 9:6} all the prophets ever raised among the Israelites taught the people how to adhere to the laws as obedient citizens of Israel but the Christ is not coming to continue as a counselor for only that nation {John 3:16} that's why those laws became obsolete after him because he has broken the barrier that's separating Israelites from faithful people throughout the earth so those people are now part of God's family through the counsel from Christ Jesus that's what their constitution can't do because it's all about them and their nation only! Exodus 19:5
Re: JESUS CAME TO FULFILL MOSES LAW GIVEN BY GOD by bobestman(m): 12:41pm On Aug 05, 2023
MrPRevailer:
Jesus came to fulfill the law of Atonement.

In Moses law, blood of animals covers sin. Leviticus chapter 1,3,4,5,6
In the new Law, Blood of Jesus washes away sin. Hebrew 9:22
Why are you ppl easily decieved. Where did the "Jesus" tell you that his blood will wash away your sins? Do know what is passover? It involves taking your own ram to the temple once a year as sacrifice for sins. The Messiah and his disciples ate the passover which involves slaying of rams. He even told the disciples where to get the ram and where to eat it. After his death his disciples continued with the practice. Certain ppl then came and wrote that his blood will wash away your sins. Your sin remain yours till you repent. If you sin advocate with the father. New covenant is when he comes and restore his ppl and give them a new heart to know the father cos thru his ppl (when restored) shall the gentiles see the light Untill then you ppl don't know what you are doing

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Re: JESUS CAME TO FULFILL MOSES LAW GIVEN BY GOD by MrPRevailer(m): 7:20pm On Aug 05, 2023
bobestman:
Why are you ppl easily decieved. Where did the "Jesus" tell you that his blood will wash away your sins? Do know what is passover? It involves taking your own ram to the temple once a year as sacrifice for sins. The Messiah and his disciples ate the passover which involves slaying of rams. He even told the disciples where to get the ram and where to eat it. After his death his disciples continued with the practice. Certain ppl then came and wrote that his blood will wash away your sins. Your sin remain yours till you repent. If you sin advocate with the father. New covenant is when he comes and restore his ppl and give them a new heart to know the father cos thru his ppl (when restored) shall the gentiles see the light Untill then you ppl don't know what you are doing
undecided

"But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ cleanseth us from all sin" 1 John 1:7

"And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony" Revelation 12:11

Luke 24 "And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me
45 Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,
46 And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behooved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:
47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name"
Re: JESUS CAME TO FULFILL MOSES LAW GIVEN BY GOD by bobestman(m): 11:21pm On Aug 05, 2023
MrPRevailer:

undecided

"But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ cleanseth us from all sin" 1 John 1:7

"And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony" Revelation 12:11

Luke 24 "And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me
45 Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,
46 And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behooved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:
47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name"
The first verse is not his word. The 2nd is in the future and a lamb was slained just like in Egypt. The last speak of repentance. Thru it your sins are forgiven you. He was murdered
Re: JESUS CAME TO FULFILL MOSES LAW GIVEN BY GOD by Ken4Christ: 11:32pm On Aug 05, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:


You are just letting devil use you. When you fulfilled the requirements of the law of American visa and green card things, did it get abolished or when you fulfilled the law of marriage, did you eradicate marriage?

You are doing exactly what atheists do in letting their wishes blind them from Truth and reason.


Please explain the verse of Scripture below:

Ephesians 2!15 HAVING ABOLISHED in his flesh the enmity, EVEN THE LAW OF COMMANDMENTS contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;

I have a book on this. Let me just feed you little by little.
Re: JESUS CAME TO FULFILL MOSES LAW GIVEN BY GOD by Dtruthspeaker: 6:17am On Aug 06, 2023
Ken4Christ:


Please explain the verse of Scripture below:

Ephesians 2!15 HAVING ABOLISHED in his flesh the enmity, EVEN THE LAW OF COMMANDMENTS contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;

I have a book on this. Let me just feed you little by little.

We went through this last year or so and in the end you had nothing to say, yet you did not heed, even though, what He abolished is right in front of you to wit, "the enmity (hatred) of The Law".

And you are teaching that people should be enemies of The Law and should continue their enmity against The Law, what Jesus had taken away and abolished.

I did my best about 3 or 4 times to explain it to you in the past but you did not listen, so this is my last attempt of showing you what you already know to be True, after all, it is your life or death.
Re: JESUS CAME TO FULFILL MOSES LAW GIVEN BY GOD by Ken4Christ: 7:17am On Aug 06, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:


We went through this last year or so and in the end you had nothing to say, yet you did not heed, even what He abolished is right in front of you to wit, "the enmity (hatred) of The Law".

And you are teaching that people should be enemies of The Law and should continue their enmity against The Law, what Jesus had taken away and abolished.

I did my best about 3 or 4 times to explain it to you in the past but you did not listen, so this is my last attempt of showing you what you already know to be True, after all, it is your life or death.

You are so full of ignorance on this subject.

The verse or passage it's taken from simply means that the presence of the Law created enmity between the Jews and the Gentiles. This is why there were constant battle that happened between the Jews and the Gentile nations around them.

And that same law stood as a wall separating the Jews and the Gentiles. The King James calls it middle wall of partition.

But when Jesus abolished the law of Moses, the wall separating us has been broken and we are now one in Christ.

There is no more special preference for the Jews. We are equal rights before God. We are now fellow heirs and fellow citizens of God's kingdom.

This is the central message of Ephesians chapter two and three.
Re: JESUS CAME TO FULFILL MOSES LAW GIVEN BY GOD by Dtruthspeaker: 7:27am On Aug 06, 2023
Ken4Christ:


You are so full of ignorance on this subject.

The verse or passage it's taken from simply means that the presence of the Law created enmity between the Jews and the Gentiles. This is why there were constant battle that happened between the Jews and the Gentile nations around them....

You brought the verse and the verse spoke up and we see what it Said "the enmity (hatred) of The Law".

And it did not say enmity between the jews and gentiles. It said "enmity of The Law". So you see, you have changing it and lying against the bible. I leave.
Re: JESUS CAME TO FULFILL MOSES LAW GIVEN BY GOD by bobestman(m): 10:00am On Aug 06, 2023
Ken4Christ:


Please explain the verse of Scripture below:

Ephesians 2!15 HAVING ABOLISHED in his flesh the enmity, EVEN THE LAW OF COMMANDMENTS contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;

I have a book on this. Let me just feed you little by little.
If you truly wrote a book on that verse, gather them up and set them ablaze cos you don't understand it. Enmity in the law is the wrongs in the law. Their were many wrongs in the law he came to correct cos during his days and even in the OT times the law was mixed with traditions of men. The reason he came to correct and abrogate it. Stoning a woman caught in adultery and many wrongs in the law he corrected in the NT are a good example. The wrongs in the law is what was abolished. Him and his disciples kept the laws till their death. Oga go burn that book so won't mislead another group of ppl
Re: JESUS CAME TO FULFILL MOSES LAW GIVEN BY GOD by Corrections: 1:29pm On Aug 06, 2023
happy weekend
Re: JESUS CAME TO FULFILL MOSES LAW GIVEN BY GOD by Dtruthspeaker: 2:37pm On Aug 06, 2023
bobestman:
If Enmity in the law is the wrongs in the law. Their were many wrongs in the law he came to correct cos during his days and even in the OT times the law was mixed with traditions of men. ...l

Which wrongs was in The Law?
Re: JESUS CAME TO FULFILL MOSES LAW GIVEN BY GOD by MrPRevailer(m): 4:29pm On Aug 06, 2023
bobestman:
The first verse is not his word. The 2nd is in the future and a lamb was slained just like in Egypt. The last speak of repentance. Thru it your sins are forgiven you. He was murdered

So then are you an unbeliever who believes the Bible is corrupt?

•Why is Jesus called the Lamb of God?
•Why did he sacrifice himself for humanity?
•When does Isaiah say 'by his stripes we are healed" and "when thou shall make his soul and offering for sin"?
Re: JESUS CAME TO FULFILL MOSES LAW GIVEN BY GOD by Ken4Christ: 11:18pm On Aug 06, 2023
bobestman:
If you truly wrote a book on that verse, gather them up and set them ablaze cos you don't understand it. Enmity in the law is the wrongs in the law. Their were many wrongs in the law he came to correct cos during his days and even in the OT times the law was mixed with traditions of men. The reason he came to correct and abrogate it. Stoning a woman caught in adultery and many wrongs in the law he corrected in the NT are a good example. The wrongs in the law is what was abolished. Him and his disciples kept the laws till their death. Oga go burn that book so won't mislead another group of ppl

You are ignorant of your ignorance. Interpret the verse below;

Romans 6:14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: FOR YE ARE NOT UNDER THE LAW, but under GRACE.
Re: JESUS CAME TO FULFILL MOSES LAW GIVEN BY GOD by Ken4Christ: 11:21pm On Aug 06, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:


We went through this last year or so and in the end you had nothing to say, yet you did not heed, even though, what He abolished is right in front of you to wit, "the enmity (hatred) of The Law".

And you are teaching that people should be enemies of The Law and should continue their enmity against The Law, what Jesus had taken away and abolished.

I did my best about 3 or 4 times to explain it to you in the past but you did not listen, so this is my last attempt of showing you what you already know to be True, after all, it is your life or death.

What is the verse below saying?

Romans 10:4 For Christ is the END OF THE LAW for righteousness to every one that believeth.
Re: JESUS CAME TO FULFILL MOSES LAW GIVEN BY GOD by bobestman(m): 7:46am On Aug 07, 2023
Ken4Christ:


You are ignorant of your ignorance. Interpret the verse below;

Romans 6:14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: FOR YE ARE NOT UNDER THE LAW, but under GRACE.
Go and do your research. Paul who wrote that observed the passover and sabbath. The messiah and disciples did till their death. I guess they are under the law right? You ppl don't know what was and was not in your bible that is why you ppl are decieved
Re: JESUS CAME TO FULFILL MOSES LAW GIVEN BY GOD by bobestman(m): 8:09am On Aug 07, 2023
MrPRevailer:


So then are you an unbeliever who believes the Bible is corrupt?

•Why is Jesus called the Lamb of God?
•Why did he sacrifice himself for humanity?
•When does Isaiah say 'by his stripes we are healed" and "when thou shall make his soul and offering for sin"?
My truth hurt churchians. That is what truth does. I tell you what is hidden from you. Your bible was copied from some ancient books. So it has errors, contradictions, allegory etc. It is "God's" word written by the wrong ppl. He is the lamb of God that will end sin in the world not your individual sins. This will happen when he comes. It is symbolic. The sacrifice is that of truth that will end lies, corruption, wickedness in the world. It has not happened cos all those things still happen. The person spoken in Isaiah 53 is not messiah or christ. Do you care to know? The lamb of God is the Passover not the Atonement. It is the later that will end sin in the world this endtime. You ppl are in error
Re: JESUS CAME TO FULFILL MOSES LAW GIVEN BY GOD by Dtruthspeaker: 8:28am On Aug 07, 2023
Ken4Christ:


What is the verse below saying?

Romans 10:4 For Christ is the END OF THE LAW for righteousness to every one that believeth.

I told you back then that, it means."THE DESTINATION/PURPOSE OF THE LAW". I told you then that Paul was a laeyer and his writings are "A legal View and analysis of the acts of.Jesus Christ in the Eye of The Law". This how the topic would have been framed on Channels Tv if he could have been interviewed by them.

I told you all this and i am tired of your stubbornness and endless moving argument. First, it was Ephesians, i.answered then you moved to Romans, i have again answered. Then you will move again to Galatians or another Romans ... i have done alll these before about 3 times and I am tired. So please let me be.
Re: JESUS CAME TO FULFILL MOSES LAW GIVEN BY GOD by Corrections: 8:41am On Aug 07, 2023
bobestman:
My truth hurt churchians. That is what truth does. I tell you what is hidden from you. Your bible was copied from some ancient books. So it has errors, contradictions, allegory etc. It is "God's" word written by the wrong ppl. He is the lamb of God that will end sin in the world not your individual sins. This will happen when he comes. It is symbolic. The sacrifice is that of truth that will end lies, corruption, wickedness in the world. It has not happened cos all those things still happen. The person spoken in Isaiah 53 is not messiah or christ. Do you care to know? The lamb of God is the Passover not the Atonement. It is the later that will end sin in the world this endtime. You ppl are in error


pls who wrote the book from which you read all these? Are you for real?
Re: JESUS CAME TO FULFILL MOSES LAW GIVEN BY GOD by Dtruthspeaker: 8:46am On Aug 07, 2023
bobestman:
My truth hurt churchians. That is what truth does. I tell you what is hidden from you. Your bible was copied from some ancient books. So it has errors, contradictions, allegory etc. symbolic. r

So answer my question "which wrongs was in The Law" since you said "there are many wrongs in The Law?
Re: JESUS CAME TO FULFILL MOSES LAW GIVEN BY GOD by bobestman(m): 9:29am On Aug 07, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:


So answer my question "which wrongs was in The Law" since you said "there are many wrongs in The Law?
Even a baby will answer you that is why i ignored you. The messiah came to correct the wrong things the ppl do in the sense that day are keeping the law. These things had been even since the OT days. The messiah keep correcting them. See Matt 5-7. I won't tell you cos this is very simple. You just want to find sth to argue

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