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Nairaland And Suppression Of Voices by MetaPhysical: 4:19pm On Aug 21, 2023
Mods, don't think I'm unaware that you closed my thread on Islam using ancient rites borrowed from Orisha. By the way, I also know my moniker is under watch and review. Its a game of cat and rat but I will put that to the side.

I am born into muslim family but my family is not an ignorant one. We are very knowledgeable in what Islam is, and we never deny our spirituality in Yoruba traditional culture. We do not follow any Imam or man to teach us about Allah. We get our knowledge of Allah direct from Quran.

I will challenge any muslim here on this forum who denies that Ifa is not accepted in Islam. I will also challenge any muslim who denies that salat are rituals borrowed from Orisha worshippers.

The challenge will allow audience to learn. Instead of closing my thread allow open debate so people can learn and free their minds from bondage of religion.

Thanks mods!
Re: Nairaland And Suppression Of Voices by jackmrandy: 4:58pm On Aug 21, 2023
Tell us why your religion support killings, anger, fighting? Why does the religion support killing as a retaliation? So many case of man slaughter under this religion. Like what's going on. Even threatening to kill worshipers of the traditional religion. Like what's going on? Who are they emulating in all these

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Re: Nairaland And Suppression Of Voices by MrSinister(m): 5:24pm On Aug 21, 2023
MetaPhysical:
Mods, don't think I'm unaware that you closed my thread on Islam using ancient rites borrowed from Orisha. By the way, I also know my moniker is under watch and review. Its a game of cat and rat but I will put that to the side.

I am born into muslim family but my family is not an ignorant one. We are very knowledgeable in what Islam is, and we never deny our spirituality in Yoruba traditional culture. We do not follow any Imam or man to teach us about Allah. We get our knowledge of Allah direct from Quran.

I will challenge any muslim here on this forum who denies that Ifa is not accepted in Islam. I will also challenge any muslim who denies that salat are rituals borrowed from Orisha worshippers.

The challenge will allow audience to learn. Instead of closing my thread allow open debate so people can learn and free their minds from bondage of religion.

Thanks mods!

You are well on your way to heresy. Hope you know what the Quran says about people like that?
Re: Nairaland And Suppression Of Voices by AlexBells(m): 5:26pm On Aug 21, 2023
I never knew you were Yoruba Muslim, Submission like this is why Northern muslims see you as infidels, My grandma was a Muslim and I can't even be this flimsy with Islam

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Re: Nairaland And Suppression Of Voices by Zooposki: 5:27pm On Aug 21, 2023
MrSinister:


You are well on your way to heresy. Hope you know what the Quran says about people like that?

That religion is for the Arabs. You worship an Arab Mohammed and Arab Allah. No wonder your continent/country is a shithole, cos their god don’t hear your prayers and have no regards for you.

Everything belonging to the whites and Arabs etc you covet.
You worship their white Hesus and Arab Mohammed, you run to their country
you lust after their women
you even covet their football clubs etc

Fvcking losers.

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Re: Nairaland And Suppression Of Voices by AlexBells(m): 5:29pm On Aug 21, 2023
Zooposki:


That religion is for the Arabs. Go and look for yours. You worship an Arab Mohammed and Arab Allah. No wonder your continent/country is a shithole, cos their god don’t hear your prayers and have no regards for you. Low IQ Africans.
Religion is just about personal choice and satisfaction, I believe the gods have their own problems and attends to ours on their spare however do not blasphem others religion, live and let live thats all
Re: Nairaland And Suppression Of Voices by Arda1000(m): 5:30pm On Aug 21, 2023
lol you religious lunatics are disgusting go worship your indigenous gods at least

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Re: Nairaland And Suppression Of Voices by Zooposki: 5:31pm On Aug 21, 2023
Re: Nairaland And Suppression Of Voices by MrSinister(m): 5:31pm On Aug 21, 2023
Zooposki:


That religion is for the Arabs. Go and look for yours. You worship an Arab Mohammed and Arab Allah. No wonder your continent/country is a shithole, cos their god don’t hear your prayers and have no regards for you. Low IQ Africans.

For the Arabs?! Are you kidding me? You need to be enlightened.
Re: Nairaland And Suppression Of Voices by AlexBells(m): 5:32pm On Aug 21, 2023
Zooposki:


STFU before I descend on you. Low IQ African man.
What do you know about IQ, I accept your challenge, bring your subject let's see who got sound arguments,
Re: Nairaland And Suppression Of Voices by Zooposki: 5:32pm On Aug 21, 2023
MrSinister:


For the Arabs?! Are you kidding me? You need to be enlightened.

No, the Arabian god belongs to your black African ass.

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Re: Nairaland And Suppression Of Voices by MrSinister(m): 5:34pm On Aug 21, 2023
Zooposki:


No, the Arabian god belongs to your black African ass.

Like I said, some enlightenment will do you a lot of good. Islam played a key role in raising the consciousness of the whole world and stamping out the idolatry you shameless promote.
Re: Nairaland And Suppression Of Voices by Zooposki: 5:36pm On Aug 21, 2023
AlexBells:
What do you know about IQ, I accept your challenge, bring your subject let's see who got sound arguments,

The time for being rational and presenting factual and logical arguments is over. I now deal in vawulence and wotowoto if you write garbage. This is a year of absolute terror on every Nairalander that cannot elevate beyond their mumuness.

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Re: Nairaland And Suppression Of Voices by Zooposki: 5:37pm On Aug 21, 2023
MrSinister:


Like I said, some enlightenment will do you a lot of good. Islam played a key role in raising the consciousness of the whole world and stamping out the idolatry you shameless promote.

What can be more idolatrous than Islam and Christianity, the worship of stone and wood?

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Re: Nairaland And Suppression Of Voices by Psalmistproject: 5:37pm On Aug 21, 2023
Omo I don't even know what is going on anymore.
I will post something on politics and try to check the thread but nothing appears. If I can't even see my post how then can others? They can continue, this is just a small platform anyways, the growth of the platform is largely a mirage with this their systemic pattern of stifling dissenting voices.

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Re: Nairaland And Suppression Of Voices by MrSinister(m): 5:39pm On Aug 21, 2023
Zooposki:


What can be more idolatrous than Islam and Christianity, the worship of stone and wood.

You are displaying more that you need proper education on the two most Dominant religions in the world. There is no idol worship in either of the two.
Re: Nairaland And Suppression Of Voices by Akaegwu(m): 5:39pm On Aug 21, 2023
Opposite is islam Bomb 💣 extremist in all ramifications.
Re: Nairaland And Suppression Of Voices by AlexBells(m): 5:40pm On Aug 21, 2023
Zooposki:


The time for being rational and presenting factual and logical arguments is over. I now deal in vawulence and wotowoto if you write garbage. This is a year of absolute terror on every Nairalander that cannot elevate beyond their mumuness.
That proves that your loosely throwing the term IQ around was an intellectual deterrent to shift attention from your lacks

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Re: Nairaland And Suppression Of Voices by Zooposki: 5:47pm On Aug 21, 2023
AlexBells:
That proves that your loosely throwing the term IQ around was an intellectual deterrent to shift attention from your lacks

You definitely can’t goad me into a debate. My message will be presented in a vawulence way until I decide to chill and be more rational. I miss the days of LogicBoy when we use to argue over religious issues. I guess I got burnt out.
Re: Nairaland And Suppression Of Voices by AlexBells(m): 5:51pm On Aug 21, 2023
Zooposki:


You definitely can’t goad me into a debate. My message will be presented in a vawulence way until I decide to chill and be more rational. I miss the days of LogicBoy when we use to argue over religious issues. I guess I got burnt out.
You are already debating, just that now it is rather to defend your vawulence than showcase your intellect, what do you think debate is about ?
Re: Nairaland And Suppression Of Voices by MetaPhysical: 8:16pm On Aug 21, 2023
MrSinister:


You are well on your way to heresy. Hope you know what the Quran says about people like that?

How does the Quran define heresy?
Re: Nairaland And Suppression Of Voices by MetaPhysical: 8:19pm On Aug 21, 2023
AlexBells:
I never knew you were Yoruba Muslim, Submission like this is why Northern muslims see you as infidels, My grandma was a Muslim and I can't even be this flimsy with Islam

If you accept Northern Islam as the model of God's teachings, then I can understand why anyone oppose to their practice will be infidels. In which case, I wear my infidelity with pride.

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Re: Nairaland And Suppression Of Voices by MetaPhysical: 8:23pm On Aug 21, 2023
AlexBells:

Religion is just about personal choice and satisfaction, I believe the gods have their own problems and attends to ours on their spare however do not blasphem others religion, live and let live thats all

You missed his point.

Is the Arab Allah different from Arewa Allah, or any other Allah in Africa?
Re: Nairaland And Suppression Of Voices by MetaPhysical: 8:31pm On Aug 21, 2023
MrSinister:


Like I said, some enlightenment will do you a lot of good. Islam played a key role in raising the consciousness of the whole world and stamping out the idolatry you shameless promote.

Islam rose out of idolatry, in its rituals there are still plenty elements of idolatry.

When we face East for prayer, we are borrowing from practices established in the worship of Horus, long before Islam. The practice of bowing to the glory of the Sun-god.

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Re: Nairaland And Suppression Of Voices by AlexBells(m): 8:38pm On Aug 21, 2023
MetaPhysical:


If you accept Northern Islam as the model of God's teachings, then I can understand why anyone oppose to their practice will be infidels. In which case, I wear my infidelity with pride.
I think the summary is that Yorubas and North should quite the pretense and accept that the two people are different. I really do not rate a Northern Muslim over a Yoruba Muslim however the liberalism and adulteration of Islam by Yorubas is creating an entirely different religion
Re: Nairaland And Suppression Of Voices by AlexBells(m): 8:43pm On Aug 21, 2023
MetaPhysical:


Islam rose out of idolatry, in its rituals there are still plenty elements of idolatry.

When we face East for prayer, we are borrowing from practices established in the worship of Horus, long before Islam. The practice of bowing to the glory of the Sun-god.

There’s a big difference between knowledge and faith, that’s the things you Yorubas have failed to understand, yes to some extent you can be regarded as civilized but juxtaposing knowledge and faith would create a confusion, now today you have Isese day in most of south west, this is in the valuation of your traditional religion, even England adopted Christianity let’s not forget that they are not even the originator so once you begin to hybridize faith with knowledge and tradition, you create a different existence by which the original practitioner of the former fate has justification to refer to you as infidel
Re: Nairaland And Suppression Of Voices by MrSinister(m): 8:45pm On Aug 21, 2023
MetaPhysical:


How does the Quran define heresy?

Does linking known and accepted Islam rites to a polytheistic African traditional practice not sound like heresy to you? Or you think it's about technicalities and definitions?
Re: Nairaland And Suppression Of Voices by MrSinister(m): 8:47pm On Aug 21, 2023
MetaPhysical:


Islam rose out of idolatry, in its rituals there are still plenty elements of idolatry.

When we face East for prayer, we are borrowing from practices established in the worship of Horus, long before Islam. The practice of bowing to the glory of the Sun-god.


More heretical statements from you. There are places you would make these comments and be lynched. Be careful.
Re: Nairaland And Suppression Of Voices by MetaPhysical: 10:28pm On Aug 21, 2023
MrSinister:


More heretical statements from you. There are places you would make these comments and be lynched. Be careful.

I guess you are comfortable hiding behind labels, you are devoid of the intellect to challenge my claims.

I am proud of my claims, lay yours out if you have pride in your belief.
Re: Nairaland And Suppression Of Voices by MetaPhysical: 10:30pm On Aug 21, 2023
MrSinister:


Does linking known and accepted Islam rites to a polytheistic African traditional practice not sound like heresy to you? Or you think it's about technicalities and definitions?

It does not. The Quran is authority on what is Islamic and what is not. Not some sheikh.

Tell me what Quran says about heresy, and stop beating around the bush.
Re: Nairaland And Suppression Of Voices by MetaPhysical: 10:42pm On Aug 21, 2023
AlexBells:

There’s a big difference between knowledge and faith, that’s the things you Yorubas have failed to understand, yes to some extent you can be regarded as civilized but juxtaposing knowledge and faith would create a confusion, now today you have Isese day in most of south west, this is in the valuation of your traditional religion, even England adopted Christianity let’s not forget that they are not even the originator so once you begin to hybridize faith with knowledge and tradition, you create a different existence by which the original practitioner of the former fate has justification to refer to you as infidel

Again, when it comes to Islam, the authority is the Quran. The Quran is explicit on who is infidel and who is not. Did the QUran tell you Yoruba people are infidels? Or this is just your fanthom imagination and play with emotional words?
Re: Nairaland And Suppression Of Voices by AlexBells(m): 10:54pm On Aug 21, 2023
MetaPhysical:


Again, when it comes to Islam, the authority is the Quran. The Quran is explicit on who is infidel and who is not. Did the QUran tell you Yoruba people are infidels? Or this is just your fanthom imagination and play with emotional words?
Quran specifically did not call any people infidels but you are Adulterating the Koran, even though there are lots of connection between the Qoran and Bible, they are different and if you add or remove, that would be wrong,

You are claiming how a certain Islamic practice came from so and so, but it is not The borrowed anymore but Islamic, treat it as distinct, when you want to practice the other borrowed practice, treat it as distinct, this should be very simple to understand, don't mix them, keep it pure, petrol comes from crude oil but petrol is petrol and you can't drive your car with non refined crude

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