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Can Man Live Ethically And Morally Without The Guidance Of Religion? by femmy2010(m): 7:39pm On Oct 23, 2011
Just wondering if a man can live ethically and morally without the guidance of religion?
Re: Can Man Live Ethically And Morally Without The Guidance Of Religion? by Sweetnecta: 10:08pm On Oct 23, 2011
Yes.
But religion is more than ethical and moral compass.
True religion from God is one religion. This guides in addition to towards the obedience of God.
It is through it that one becomes the person who pleases God and reaching into the direction of becoming a person He Favors.

There is a prayer in Islam about this: All Thanks belong to You Oh God. All Praises belong to You Oh God.
All Dominions belong to You Oh God. All Sovereignty belong to You Oh God.
Forgive me. Cancel all my sins. Protect me from all sins.
Let me do deeds that are pleasing to You and so count me among You Favor.

This is a powerful prayer and it was first made by Angel Gabriel, before any human made it. We in Islam say this prayer.
It includes all possible ways you can praise, honor, etc God Almighty Who has no partner, son or consort.

A unique way to get closer to God is by acknowledge His Presence in obedience to His Order.

Without guidance of God through His Religion for man, man is lost, similar to a mere herd of cattle, grazing in the field.
Re: Can Man Live Ethically And Morally Without The Guidance Of Religion? by Nobody: 10:44pm On Oct 23, 2011
Yes. People do everyday. Finland is an example. Religion today serves no purpose than to divide. If u need religion to behave then u r really not a good person.
Re: Can Man Live Ethically And Morally Without The Guidance Of Religion? by mazaje(m): 1:02am On Oct 24, 2011
femmy2010:

Just wondering if a Can man live ethically and morally without the guidance of religion?


Yeah, a lot of countries do whose citizens are mostly irreligious like, Denmark, Sweden, Finland, Czech republic, Norway, Lithuania etc all do live more ethical and moral lives than Nigerians which happens to be one of the most religious country on the planet. . . .Religion does NOT make people to live more ethical or moral lives. . . .
Re: Can Man Live Ethically And Morally Without The Guidance Of Religion? by harakiri(m): 6:54am On Oct 24, 2011
@femmy2010, Who is better among these two?

(A)The individual who helps the needy because the bible says so and he/she wants recompensation in the form of "divine favor" and "abundant blessings".

(B)The non-religious individual who helps the needy because it feels good to do good?

The difference is crystal clear. You cannot compare religious folks with non-religious folks on any moral higher ground. Religious folks pretend to be "good" because their religion COMMANDS them.

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Re: Can Man Live Ethically And Morally Without The Guidance Of Religion? by obowunmi(m): 7:56am On Oct 24, 2011
Well said harakiri.
Re: Can Man Live Ethically And Morally Without The Guidance Of Religion? by femmy2010(m): 10:22am On Oct 24, 2011
harakiri:

@femmy2010, Who is better among these two?

(A)The individual who helps the needy because the bible says so and he/she wants recompensation in the form of "divine favor" and "abundant blessings".

(B)The non-religious individual who helps the needy because it feels good to do good?

The difference is crystal clear. You cannot compare religious folks with non-religious folks on any moral higher ground. Religious folks pretend to be "good" because their religion COMMANDS them.

True
Re: Can Man Live Ethically And Morally Without The Guidance Of Religion? by Jenwitemi(m): 10:44am On Oct 24, 2011
A large part of humanity has been living their lives on moral and ethical high grounds without religions for centuries, mate. The morality and ethics that come from religions(especially from the 3 desert dogmas) are, at the most, BOGUS. True morality and ethically correct behaviors must come from within man and not without. Religion is not needed in this case.

Although, if properly applied, religions can play a big part in facilitating high morals and ethics in humanity, the world religions are anything but properly applied, as most of us have already realized. Even the central deity of these world religions(Yahweh/Jehovah/Allah) are all morally and ethically bankrupt to begin with, according to the scriptures of each respective religion.

- What is so moral and ethical about destroying other people's history, traditions and cultures and imposing yours on them(Christianity)?

- What is morally and ethically correct in blowing people up while shouting "ALLAH U AKHBAR!"(Islam)?

- Where is the morality and the ethics in going to other lands to forcefully convert non-believers through bloodshedding jihads and crusades(Christianity and Islam)?

What is moral and ethical about positively associating with fellow human beings only through association or affiliation to narrowly conceived religious ideologies(the 3 desert dogmas)?

Conclusion: World religions offer morality and ethics that are bogus at best. They aren't real. They do not offer any tangible form of guidance to these two things. True morality and ethics come from within and not without. My view.
femmy2010:

Just wondering if a man can live ethically and morally without the guidance of religion?

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Re: Can Man Live Ethically And Morally Without The Guidance Of Religion? by Jenwitemi(m): 10:55am On Oct 24, 2011
Good points. Religious folks are commanded to be morally and ethically good by their religions. Of course, what this means is that they(the religious folks) don't even know themselves. They do not know whether they can do positive things ON THEIR OWN, OR NOT. They go through life like religion-wired zombies who cannot tell their left from their right on their own accord without having to read the bible first. What a very sad and humiliating state of being to be.
harakiri:

@femmy2010, Who is better among these two?

(A)The individual who helps the needy because the bible says so and he/she wants recompensation in the form of "divine favor" and "abundant blessings".

(B)The non-religious individual who helps the needy because it feels good to do good?

The difference is crystal clear. You cannot compare religious folks with non-religious folks on any moral higher ground. Religious folks pretend to be "good" because their religion COMMANDS them.

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Re: Can Man Live Ethically And Morally Without The Guidance Of Religion? by vescucci(m): 11:02am On Oct 24, 2011
@topic, Yes. Morality evolves like every other thing. The fact that there've so many deaths on account of 'you're of a different religion from me' makes any argument for religion just meh at best.
Re: Can Man Live Ethically And Morally Without The Guidance Of Religion? by lagerwhenindoubt(m): 11:13am On Oct 25, 2011
femmy2010:

Just wondering if a man can live ethically and morally without the guidance of religion?


Good Morning and boy am I happy to be alive after yesterday's fracas at the ETI-OSA Council - makes you want to give praise to God Almighty  wink

@OP permit me to point out that your question is slightly confusing. the purpose of a question the nature of the one you have just asked is to elicit responses that are not pre-defined based on the way the question is posed.

Let us look at your question again "Can Man Live Ethically And Morally Without The Guidance [/b]Of Religion?" If what you mean to say is truly Guidance, then what you have assumed is a Middle-ground, the Low-ground question will be "Can Man Live Ethically And Morally [b]Without Religion?" and the High-Ground question will be "Can Man Live Ethically And Morally [b]With [/b]Religion?"
Re: Can Man Live Ethically And Morally Without The Guidance Of Religion? by Jenwitemi(m): 11:22am On Oct 25, 2011
Why are you trying to confuse yourself, lager? What is the difference between the two Qs highlighted? Aren't both asking about the same thing?
I think it is a much better option to give your own opinion about the topic at hand, instead of this attempt at being pedantic.
lagerwhenindoubt:



Let us look at your question again "Can Man Live Ethically And Morally Without The Guidance Of Religion?" If what you mean to say is truly Guidance, then what you have assumed is a Middle-ground, the Low-ground question will be "Can Man Live Ethically And Morally Without Religion?" and the High-Ground question will be "Can Man Live Ethically And Morally [b]With [/b]Religion?"
Re: Can Man Live Ethically And Morally Without The Guidance Of Religion? by lagerwhenindoubt(m): 11:26am On Oct 25, 2011
grin  grin it is a trick question (purposed or inadvertent) Sir. There is a difference between using Religion as a de-facto Yard-stick for Living Morally and Ethically and using it as a reference (Guidance). there is a higher probability that issues discussed on the basis of an improperly formed question will distort opinions and usually cause the sort of outbursts common on NL Religion Section

To Answer the poster - YES Man can live Ethically and Morally without Religion, mind you living is an ongoing activity hence there is a constant struggle between living with and without SIN. it is in our very Nature
Re: Can Man Live Ethically And Morally Without The Guidance Of Religion? by Jenwitemi(m): 11:31am On Oct 25, 2011
There is no trick here, mate. And if the OP is trying to use religion as a defacto standard of morality and ethics, then he has failed because religion is clearly NOT the standard for the two and most people who have provided there answers clearly could see that.
Re: Can Man Live Ethically And Morally Without The Guidance Of Religion? by MacDaddy01: 8:17pm On Sep 06, 2012
Why is it that you never find many christians on threads like this
Re: Can Man Live Ethically And Morally Without The Guidance Of Religion? by Jenwitemi(m): 1:59am On Sep 07, 2012
Living ethically and morally minus religion has been done for millenia and is still being done today... at this very moment, even.
femmy2010: Just wondering if a man can live ethically and morally without the guidance of religion?

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Re: Can Man Live Ethically And Morally Without The Guidance Of Religion? by thehomer: 3:59pm On Sep 07, 2012
femmy2010: Just wondering if a man can live ethically and morally without the guidance of religion?

Of course. Many people do it already.
Re: Can Man Live Ethically And Morally Without The Guidance Of Religion? by wirinet(m): 1:19am On Sep 08, 2012
Yes. The most morally upright people I have met are the irreligious. Religion is more interested in control than morality.

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Re: Can Man Live Ethically And Morally Without The Guidance Of Religion? by benodic: 11:05am On Sep 08, 2012
the whole crus of the matter is that Religion has lost its primary purpose. which is to help man to find the temple of God within which is where true worship takes place. now what you see is a tool of control, destruction, malice, bitterness, division, prejudice and bias. culminating in the view point of "My God is bigger than yours and if you are not with me, you are doomed".

a lot of people both in the past and present have been able to find the temple within and are living a very high ethical life far away from the confines of
religion.
Re: Can Man Live Ethically And Morally Without The Guidance Of Religion? by Nobody: 11:07am On Sep 08, 2012
femmy2010: Just wondering if a man can live ethically and morally without the guidance of religion?
JEREMIAH 17 VS 9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it? YOU TELL ME
Re: Can Man Live Ethically And Morally Without The Guidance Of Religion? by jayriginal: 2:00pm On Oct 08, 2013
Definitely!
Re: Can Man Live Ethically And Morally Without The Guidance Of Religion? by PastorOluT(m): 4:35pm On Oct 08, 2013
femmy2010: Just wondering if a man can live ethically and morally without the guidance of religion?

Yes ofcourse u dont need religion for that, but u DEFINITELY NEED JESUS CHRIST FOR LIFE.
Re: Can Man Live Ethically And Morally Without The Guidance Of Religion? by oaroloye(m): 12:05pm On Oct 27, 2016
SHALOM!

Do you know what BARTON'S PENDULUM is?

Look it up.

The Commandments of God are the BASIS OF LIFE, so that, a person obeying The Commandments of God PHYSICALLY is REINFORCING the LIFE FORCE on their CELLS by RESONANCE.

Therefore ETHICS and MORALS that are SINS have a deleterious effect on the Life Force, and WILL KILL the "ETHICAL" and "MORAL" person.
Re: Can Man Live Ethically And Morally Without The Guidance Of Religion? by otemanuduno: 8:32pm On Oct 27, 2016
femmy2010:
Just wondering if a man can live ethically and morally without the guidance of religion?
There are two things-morality and hypocrisy. The more moral people are the user of their commonsenses. Religion is all about hypocrisies and lies. It doesn't offer anything reasonable.

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