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Plateau And Kano Court Verdicts; Is The APC No Longer A Meddlesome Interloper by Bobloco: 5:05pm On Nov 19, 2023
The recent judgements at the Appeal court are very disturbing.
Pre election matters are being used to sack the governors of Plateau and Kano state.

When it's against the APC, other parties are meddlesome interlopers, doing busy body

But when the APC is meddling into other parties internal affairs, it becomes justified

Is this not a calculated attempt to snatch this two states from the opposition and hand them over to the APC using the judiciary since it could not be achieved through the ballot

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Re: Plateau And Kano Court Verdicts; Is The APC No Longer A Meddlesome Interloper by TemplarLandry: 5:11pm On Nov 19, 2023
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Re: Plateau And Kano Court Verdicts; Is The APC No Longer A Meddlesome Interloper by Jostoman: 5:16pm On Nov 19, 2023
Ariwoola is doing wonder for Asiwaju and APC

Las Las na Judiciary go fast track revolution for Nigeria.

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Re: Plateau And Kano Court Verdicts; Is The APC No Longer A Meddlesome Interloper by yarimo(m): 5:34pm On Nov 19, 2023
How about the invalid votes in Kano state you didn't say anything about that, and in the case of plateau state nothing like interlopers , it's a matter of pre and Post election matters according to sections 177 (c) of the 1999constitution And sections 80 and 82 of the electoral act 2022
Bobloco:
The recent judgements at the Appeal court are very disturbing.
Pre election matters are being used to sack the governors of Plateau and Kano state.

When it's against the APC, other parties are meddlesome interlopers, doing busy body

But when the APC is meddling into other parties internal affairs, it becomes justified

Is this not a calculated attempt to snatch this two states from the opposition and hand them over to the APC using the judiciary since it could not be achieved through the ballot
Re: Plateau And Kano Court Verdicts; Is The APC No Longer A Meddlesome Interloper by yarimo(m): 5:36pm On Nov 19, 2023
Jostoman:
Ariwoola is doing wonder for Asiwaju and APC

Las Las na Judiciary go fast track revolution for Nigeria.
But it didn't fast track it when peter obi was declared by the same judiciary as governor in 2005 and 2007 abi

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Re: Plateau And Kano Court Verdicts; Is The APC No Longer A Meddlesome Interloper by mrvitalis(m): 5:40pm On Nov 19, 2023
yarimo:
But it didn't fast track it when peter obi was declared by the same judiciary as governor in 2005 and 2007 abi
Those set of judges were never appointed by APC and we don't has those set of judges again

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Re: Plateau And Kano Court Verdicts; Is The APC No Longer A Meddlesome Interloper by Truths9ja: 5:48pm On Nov 19, 2023
yarimo:
How about the invalid votes in Kano state you didn't say anything about that, and in the case of plateau state nothing like interlopers , it's a matter of pre and Post election matters according to sections 177 (c) of the 1999constitution And sections 80 and 82 of the electoral act 2022

Kano Case:
Section 177 of Nigeria constitution interpret party membership for election.
Here is what the law says as regards ballot papers not signed and stamped


"(1) Subject to subsection (2), a ballot paper which does not bear
official mark prescribed by the Commission shall not be counted.
(2) If the returning officer is satisfied that a ballot paper which does not
bear the official mark was from a book of ballot papers which was furnished
to the presiding officer of the polling unit in which the vote was cast for use at
the election in question, he or she shall, notwithstanding the absence of the
official mark, count that ballot paper".

From the above, the law provided a leeway to the issue of unsigned and unstamped ballot papers.
Re: Plateau And Kano Court Verdicts; Is The APC No Longer A Meddlesome Interloper by Truths9ja: 5:49pm On Nov 19, 2023
Plateau Case:

Of the truth PDP did the primaries and INEC tendered the evidence to that effect.

was there a valid primaries?was the primaries witnessed by inec?was the APC candidate part of the so called primaries??This is clearly a pre election matter that should have originated from the high court before the election and secondly,the APC candidate does not have the locus standing to challenge it as he was neither a PDP member and did not take part in the primaries of the PDP.He does not have the right to question another party on the nomination of it's candidate.

it's a pre election matter and should have originated from the high court.Bayelsa and zamfara cases we love to site as examples originated from the high court.The Appeal Court of justice lack the jurisdiction to entertain the case . Zamfara case was APC vs APC and it originated from the federal high court and not the tribunal, Appeal and Supreme Court of justice. The tribunal, Appeal and Supreme Court of justice lacks the jurisdiction to entertain it.

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Re: Plateau And Kano Court Verdicts; Is The APC No Longer A Meddlesome Interloper by Benbellamor: 5:56pm On Nov 19, 2023
Can you blame APC? when PDP did not present theirself very strong...selfish interest divides PDP along party lines, Obi went to LP and kwakwanso to NNPP while Atiku is not ready to step down nor Allowed a strong PDP like wike to be a vice and even pretend to win the 2023 election first....now APC is rubishing them one by one.....
Re: Plateau And Kano Court Verdicts; Is The APC No Longer A Meddlesome Interloper by yarimo(m): 5:56pm On Nov 19, 2023
Truths9ja:


Kano Case:
Section 177 of Nigeria constitution interpret party membership for election.
Here is what the law says as regards ballot papers not signed and stamped


"(1) Subject to subsection (2), a ballot paper which does not bear
official mark prescribed by the Commission shall not be counted.
(2) If the returning officer is satisfied that a ballot paper which does not
bear the official mark was from a book of ballot papers which was furnished
to the presiding officer of the polling unit in which the vote was cast for use at
the election in question, he or she shall, notwithstanding the absence of the
official mark, count that ballot paper".

From the above, the law provided a leeway to the issue of unsigned and unstamped ballot papers.
hehe that means according to the same section you quotes invalid votes is invalid and the case of plateau state go and read it carefully. Nobody is contesting about primary election nominations other party members has no business in that, in plateau state PDP as a party don't have any candidate in that election .
Re: Plateau And Kano Court Verdicts; Is The APC No Longer A Meddlesome Interloper by yarimo(m): 5:57pm On Nov 19, 2023
mrvitalis:

Those set of judges were never appointed by APC and we don't has those set of judges again
when it favour you judiciary and INEC are the best, but when it goes the other way judiciary and INEC are killing democracy

Re: Plateau And Kano Court Verdicts; Is The APC No Longer A Meddlesome Interloper by Bobloco: 5:59pm On Nov 19, 2023
yarimo:
How about the invalid votes in Kano state you didn't say anything about that, and in the case of plateau state nothing like interlopers , it's a matter of pre and Post election matters according to sections 177 (c) of the 1999constitution And sections 80 and 82 of the electoral act 2022

Who described it as invalid votes, INEC or The Courts
Re: Plateau And Kano Court Verdicts; Is The APC No Longer A Meddlesome Interloper by Truths9ja: 6:00pm On Nov 19, 2023
yarimo:
hehe that means according to the same section you quotes invalid votes is invalid
in as much the Returning officer don’t reject the alleged votes APC claimed it’s invalid, definitely it shouldn’t be presented in the court of justice. Supreme Court of justice will interpret it well to protect the law.

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Re: Plateau And Kano Court Verdicts; Is The APC No Longer A Meddlesome Interloper by slivertongue: 6:00pm On Nov 19, 2023
Truths9ja:
Plateau Case:

Of the truth PDP did the primaries and INEC tendered the evidence to that effect.

was there a valid primaries?was the primaries witnessed by inec?was the APC candidate part of the so called primaries??This is clearly a pre election matter that should have originated from the high court before the election and secondly,the APC candidate does not have the locus standing to challenge it as he was neither a PDP member and did not take part in the primaries of the PDP.He does not have the right to question another party on the nomination of it's candidate.

it's a pre election matter and should have originated from the high court.Bayelsa and zamfara cases we love to site as examples originated from the high court.The Appeal Court of justice lack the jurisdiction to entertain the case . Zamfara case was APC vs APC and it originated from the federal high court and not the tribunal, Appeal and Supreme Court of justice. The tribunal, Appeal and Supreme Court of justice lacks the jurisdiction to entertain it.


I knew BCM was going to be sucked by the appeal court and I said same to garfield1 but am waiting for the Supreme Court to do a u-turn &say a different thing with regards to a settled exco matter filed by a meddlesome interloper.
Re: Plateau And Kano Court Verdicts; Is The APC No Longer A Meddlesome Interloper by Emyzoloye5(m): 6:03pm On Nov 19, 2023
The Judiciary will set this country on fire someday
Re: Plateau And Kano Court Verdicts; Is The APC No Longer A Meddlesome Interloper by yarimo(m): 6:04pm On Nov 19, 2023
Truths9ja:
in as much the Returning officer don’t reject the alleged votes APC claimed it’s invalid, definitely it shouldn’t be presented in the court of justice. Supreme Court of justice will interpret it well to protect the law.
according to sections 163 of electoral act 2022 it remains invalid, how can PO reject something he issue by himself
Re: Plateau And Kano Court Verdicts; Is The APC No Longer A Meddlesome Interloper by Truths9ja: 6:05pm On Nov 19, 2023
slivertongue:



I knew BCM was going to be sucked by the appeal court and I said same to garfield1 but am waiting for the Supreme Court to do a u-turn &say a different thing with regards to a settled exco matter filed by a meddlesome interloper.
I’m waiting for the Supreme Court of justice verdict on the pre election matters cases too. Since they have done the needful on the Obi petition that relates to the presentation of pre election matters, it was rightly struck out in the Supreme Court of justice. Supreme Court of justice will do the needful by interpret the law
Re: Plateau And Kano Court Verdicts; Is The APC No Longer A Meddlesome Interloper by yarimo(m): 6:05pm On Nov 19, 2023
Bobloco:


Who described it as invalid votes, INEC or The Courts
sections 163 of the electoral act 2022 discribe it as invalid votes
Re: Plateau And Kano Court Verdicts; Is The APC No Longer A Meddlesome Interloper by Truths9ja: 6:07pm On Nov 19, 2023
yarimo:
according to sections 163 of electoral act 2022 it remains invalid, how can PO reject something he issue by himself

Here is what the law says as regards ballot papers not signed and stamped


"(1) Subject to subsection (2), a ballot paper which does not bear
official mark prescribed by the Commission shall not be counted.
(2) If the returning officer is satisfied that a ballot paper which does not
bear the official mark was from a book of ballot papers which was furnished
to the presiding officer of the polling unit in which the vote was cast for use at
the election in question, he or she shall, notwithstanding the absence of the
official mark, count that ballot paper".

From the above, the law provided a leeway to the issue of unsigned and unstamped ballot papers.

Supreme Court of justice will help us to interpret it according to the law of Nigeria constitution and the amended electoral act. Let’s keep our fingers crossed till December
Re: Plateau And Kano Court Verdicts; Is The APC No Longer A Meddlesome Interloper by Bobloco: 6:13pm On Nov 19, 2023
yarimo:
sections 163 of the electoral act 2022 discribe it as invalid votes

Kindly quote the section here
Re: Plateau And Kano Court Verdicts; Is The APC No Longer A Meddlesome Interloper by Akungitit: 6:14pm On Nov 19, 2023
Go to court πŸ€£πŸ˜‚

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Re: Plateau And Kano Court Verdicts; Is The APC No Longer A Meddlesome Interloper by yarimo(m): 6:16pm On Nov 19, 2023
Truths9ja:


Here is what the law says as regards ballot papers not signed and stamped


"(1) Subject to subsection (2), a ballot paper which does not bear
official mark prescribed by the Commission shall not be counted.
(2) If the returning officer is satisfied that a ballot paper which does not
bear the official mark was from a book of ballot papers which was furnished
to the presiding officer of the polling unit in which the vote was cast for use at
the election in question, he or she shall, notwithstanding the absence of the
official mark, count that ballot paper".

From the above, the law provided a leeway to the issue of unsigned and unstamped ballot papers.

Supreme Court of justice will help us to interpret it according to the law of Nigeria constitution and the amended electoral act. Let’s keep our fingers crossed till December
I don't really even know your argument here, you are just confusing yourself. It's clear constitutionally invalid is invalid. Nobody is stopping anyone from going to court

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Re: Plateau And Kano Court Verdicts; Is The APC No Longer A Meddlesome Interloper by yarimo(m): 6:17pm On Nov 19, 2023
Bobloco:


Kindly quote the section here
lazy youth go and read and make reaserch , isn't that was the sections I posted to you?
Re: Plateau And Kano Court Verdicts; Is The APC No Longer A Meddlesome Interloper by Truths9ja: 6:19pm On Nov 19, 2023
yarimo:
I don't really even know your argument here, you are just confusing yourself. It's clear constitutionally invalid is invalid. Nobody is stopping anyone from going to court
Supreme Court of justice the Apex court of justice will interpret the law to us. Let’s keep our fingers crossed
Re: Plateau And Kano Court Verdicts; Is The APC No Longer A Meddlesome Interloper by yarimo(m): 6:20pm On Nov 19, 2023
Truths9ja:
Supreme Court of justice the Apex court of justice will interpret the law to us. Let’s keep our fingers crossed
nobody said supreme court won't interpret the law in the first place
Re: Plateau And Kano Court Verdicts; Is The APC No Longer A Meddlesome Interloper by Truths9ja: 6:24pm On Nov 19, 2023
yarimo:
sections 163 of the electoral act 2022 discribe it as invalid votes
the section you quote here’s not in the 2022 amended electoral act
Re: Plateau And Kano Court Verdicts; Is The APC No Longer A Meddlesome Interloper by Truths9ja: 6:26pm On Nov 19, 2023
yarimo:
nobody said supreme court won't interpret the law in the first place
ok
Re: Plateau And Kano Court Verdicts; Is The APC No Longer A Meddlesome Interloper by Bobloco: 6:26pm On Nov 19, 2023
yarimo:
lazy youth go and read and make reaserch , isn't that was the sections I posted to you?

Are you not sure of the section of law you quoted


Well here is the section of the electoral act I am conversant with

(1) Subject to subsection (2), a ballot paper which does not bear
official mark prescribed by the Commission shall not be counted.
(2) If the returning officer is satisfied that a ballot paper which does not
bear the official mark was from a book of ballot papers which was furnished
to the presiding officer of the polling unit in which the vote was cast for use at
the election in question, he or she shall, notwithstanding the absence of the
official mark, count that ballot paper
.
Re: Plateau And Kano Court Verdicts; Is The APC No Longer A Meddlesome Interloper by Truths9ja: 6:28pm On Nov 19, 2023
Bobloco:


Are you not sure of the section of law you quoted


Well here is the section of the electoral act I am conversant with

(1) Subject to subsection (2), a ballot paper which does not bear
official mark prescribed by the Commission shall not be counted.
(2) If the returning officer is satisfied that a ballot paper which does not
bear the official mark was from a book of ballot papers which was furnished
to the presiding officer of the polling unit in which the vote was cast for use at
the election in question, he or she shall, notwithstanding the absence of the
official mark, count that ballot paper
.
sir maybe you should tell him the subsection in the electoral act to him.
Re: Plateau And Kano Court Verdicts; Is The APC No Longer A Meddlesome Interloper by Truths9ja: 6:34pm On Nov 19, 2023
Kano case:
Amended electoral act 2022

(3) A political party shall not impose nomination qualification or disqualification criteria, measures, or conditions on any aspirant or candidate for any election in its constitution, guidelines, or rules for nomination of candidates for elections, except as prescribed under sections 65, 66, 106, 107, 131, 137, 177 and 187 of the Constitution.

Re: Plateau And Kano Court Verdicts; Is The APC No Longer A Meddlesome Interloper by garfield1: 6:35pm On Nov 19, 2023
Truths9ja:
I’m waiting for the Supreme Court of justice verdict on the pre election matters cases too. Since they have done the needful on the Obi petition that relates to the presentation of pre election matters, it was rightly struck out in the Supreme Court of justice. Supreme Court of justice will do the needful by interpret the law

This matter is different
Re: Plateau And Kano Court Verdicts; Is The APC No Longer A Meddlesome Interloper by Bobloco: 6:36pm On Nov 19, 2023
Truths9ja:
sir maybe you should tell him the subsection in the electoral act to him.

Yarimo, go read section 63 of the electoral act 2022

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