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Re: Ladoja Faults The Position Of Some Ibadan Chiefs On Olubadan Stool by Odidigboigbo(m): 7:02am On Apr 11
RealLordZeus:
Rumour has it that Oba Olakunlehin is bed ridden and can't ascend the throne..
In that case, the next in line (Ladoja) will take over, their line will miss its turn.
And if the rumor is true, its in the best interest of everybody that Ladoja steps in, we can't afford to be coronating every year, spending unnecessary funds

The above is my opinion
Let's assumed that Baba Olakunlehin is bed ridden, does that mean that Ibadan will remain without a King or the kingship should be given to another person while he is still alive? Have a deep retrospect of this and put yourself in the shoe of Baba and his children. There is an adage in my place that says "good night, no one knows who will be awake before the other" . There is possibly of those that are saying Baba is bed ridden to die before Baba; I have seen it happen and it might likely happen again.

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Re: Ladoja Faults The Position Of Some Ibadan Chiefs On Olubadan Stool by Difrent: 7:04am On Apr 11
adioolayi:


Nothing like second angle...the both lines are lines..

It moves to the next in line which is Ladoja.

Irrespective of where the next high ranking chief is, either the civil or military line..the most senior of the two on the line is the next Olubadan.

But Ladoja is not the most senior high chief, he is the most senior in the Olubadan line ni,not the most senior high chief.

All the trouble Baba is making because he want to become Olubadan will come to haunt him when it's his time .
As e no dey gree so na so them no go gree for am too. We are all descendants of warriors and all have equal rights to the throne

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Re: Ladoja Faults The Position Of Some Ibadan Chiefs On Olubadan Stool by adioolayi(m): 7:12am On Apr 11
Difrent:


But Ladoja is not the most senior high chief, he is the most senior in the Olubadan line ni,not the most senior high chief.

All the trouble Baba is making because he want to become Olubadan will come to haunt him when it's his time .
As e no dey gree so na so them no go gree for am too. We are all descendants of warriors and all have equal rights to the throne

He is the Otun Olubadan....so, if the Olubadan designated who happens to be the current Balogun of Ibadan is unable to ascend the throne (for death reasons), the crown goes back to the civil line, and that will be Ladoja

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Re: Ladoja Faults The Position Of Some Ibadan Chiefs On Olubadan Stool by adioolayi(m): 7:27am On Apr 11
Difrent:


Even if Olakulehin will not be king, the next king will come from the same line too. So baba Ladoja should rest.
Yes he is the person that will nominate the Olubadan designate as the head of the line that's not producing Olubadan

No correct.

For example,

Oba Yinusa Ogundipe Arapasowu as Olubadan of Ibadan land.
He ascended the throne from the Civil line.

He has:
High Chief Omiyale as Balogun Ibadan
High Chief Oiawale Kuye as Otun Olubadan
High Chief Odulana Odugade as Otun Balogun.

Because Oba Yinusa came from civil line, High chief Kuye was promoted to Otun Olubadan..the Balogun line remains unchanged.

After the demise of ObaYinusa Arapasowu, Chief Omiyale, the Balogun of Ibadan was supposed to be the next in line... unfortunately, he passed on before coronation..

The crown moved back to the civil line...Chief Olawale Kuye was next... unfortunately he also passed on..

The crown moved back to military line..that's why the Otun Balogun, chief Odulana Odugade became Olubadan..from Military Iine.

Chief gain promotions from their line and the late Oba Lekan Balogun became the Otun Olubadan...so, he became the next Olubadan from civil line.

Now that he passed on..the crown moves to military..if the next chief is unable to..it goes back to the civil line

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Re: Ladoja Faults The Position Of Some Ibadan Chiefs On Olubadan Stool by Tmex(m): 7:32am On Apr 11
In my opinion i think they are all being clever by half, chief ajibola is trying to arrogate the stool to himself by way of protesting the health status of the Olubadan designate, demanding that he should fully recuperate before been enthroned,knowing fully well it could swing either ways.

Chief Ladoja wants him to be quickly enthroned, knowing fully well the next Olubadan must come from the other line before it returns to his line where he is the highest in ranking to prevent any eventualities.

The gods are wise, may the best man emerge.

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Re: Ladoja Faults The Position Of Some Ibadan Chiefs On Olubadan Stool by muykem: 7:34am On Apr 11
drawingbook:
Thats where the problem is. It is the turn of a line not a person. If the senior person from that line is not available, does the line forfeit its turn or they go with the most senior person from the same line?
You asked a very intelligent question but let me answer you. It is not just in line but also chieftain hierarchy. A sick Balogun can't give throne to Otun Balogun when he is still alive because they are in the same line.

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Re: Ladoja Faults The Position Of Some Ibadan Chiefs On Olubadan Stool by xeju: 7:36am On Apr 11
Disservice to Oyo people What of Alaafin of Oyo?
Flier:
It goes to the next person they don’t replace people in line.They have got to change the idea of line up it is disservice to Oyo people.
Re: Ladoja Faults The Position Of Some Ibadan Chiefs On Olubadan Stool by anonimi: 7:43am On Apr 11
Sammysolution:
This is getting messy now, because if olakulehin isn't fit medically for the throne, will the balogun, the warrior's line forfeit their turn, for the agbagba's, the elder line, which has ladoja as the most senior in that line, or will it be given to the next most senior in balogun line, which is ajibola.

Is it as messy as the Alaafin succession that is yet to be concluded after almost two years?
Or that of Soun Ogbomoso?

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Re: Ladoja Faults The Position Of Some Ibadan Chiefs On Olubadan Stool by Cmeo(m): 7:46am On Apr 11
Difrent:


Even if Olakulehin will not be king, the next king will come from the same line too. So baba Ladoja should rest.
Yes he is the person that will nominate the Olubadan designate as the head of the line that's not producing Olubadan

Ibadan Obaship doesn't work like that. Obaship in Ibadan is by promoting of the chiefs. The next in line chief to the Olubadan becomes the king. Ibadan kingship is not by family inheritance but by Chiefs promotion.

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Re: Ladoja Faults The Position Of Some Ibadan Chiefs On Olubadan Stool by BarrElChapo(m): 7:50am On Apr 11
jabor4Naija:
Power really does intoxicate, so even after spending years as governor, he still wants to remain relevant this wanting to be the next olubadan hmmmmm I wish him well
Re: Ladoja Faults The Position Of Some Ibadan Chiefs On Olubadan Stool by DMerciful(m): 7:58am On Apr 11
LegendHero,

Are you not from Ibadan, why are you not commenting?

Oh, because Obi was not mentioned? grin
Re: Ladoja Faults The Position Of Some Ibadan Chiefs On Olubadan Stool by tabaralph: 7:59am On Apr 11
Sabadon:
real question to be answered
The fact remains that the oldest person in that line must be crowned as the king even if he dies the second day, then the next line moves in, ladoja is the next in line after this man

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Re: Ladoja Faults The Position Of Some Ibadan Chiefs On Olubadan Stool by tabaralph: 8:06am On Apr 11
[quote author=BarrElChapo post=129377154][/quote]
Ladoja was never in hurry to become olubadan, that was why he berated the chief that cautioned the instalment of the next olubadan due to his Illness, if ladoja was greedy to become olubadan he would have teem up with this disgruntled chief,also note that Ibadan is the only city in the south west without kings succession issues, every lineage knows their turn

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Re: Ladoja Faults The Position Of Some Ibadan Chiefs On Olubadan Stool by Agunesinjaweola: 8:07am On Apr 11
Difrent:


He has to wait his turn.
With all this his shenanigans, he thinks people won't make issues for him too when its his time abi

He is a minority here
He can only have his say , can't have his way.
He for no go withdraw the court cases now.

My joy is that Makinde has seen that this man just like making trouble and has since distanced himself from him. How can only you behave as if you are Wiser than everybody
Hymmmm 🤔
You're ignorant and misinformed !
Ladoja is the only one nurtured by the truth!
He remains relevant for his past antecedents.
Above all, Ladoja is the most favoured by the opinion polls by most people to ascend Olubadan stool.
It's a known fact Ajimobi bastardized Olubadan stool because of hate and envy of Ladoja who is in line to ascend the throne.
Ajimobi wanted Ladoja to bow for him by giving him the Crown but Ladoja is very intelligent and dodged the bullet.
Most Oyo people want Ladoja to become Olubadan because of the gang up against him for refusing to wear the small Crown !
Besides, Ladoja is the most Senior next in line to the throne.

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Re: Ladoja Faults The Position Of Some Ibadan Chiefs On Olubadan Stool by FreeStuffsNG: 8:18am On Apr 11
jabor4Naija:
Power really does intoxicate, so even after spending years as governor, he still wants to remain relevant this wanting to be the next olubadan hmmmmm I wish him well
The Olubadan has been his ultimate ambition and joined the queue decades even before he became a Governor. The Olubadan is his ultimate prize.

It's almost his time but not yet his turn. He will one day become the Olubadan and it will be historic because that will be the first time that a former democratically- elected Governor will become the Olubadan if not the first time a former democratically- elected Governor becomes a First Class Oba in Nigeria.

His position is clear enough that you can not have any other crown in Ibadan apart from the Olubadan and he rejected the crown the Governor gave him while other high chiefs collected it.

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Re: Ladoja Faults The Position Of Some Ibadan Chiefs On Olubadan Stool by Mervingreat: 8:23am On Apr 11
Pls na how many Kings una wan get in Ibadan within time frame of 20 years?

It's like you people installed King every 3 years or something like that, pls why?
Re: Ladoja Faults The Position Of Some Ibadan Chiefs On Olubadan Stool by Owutuotuo(m): 8:27am On Apr 11
drawingbook:
Thats where the problem is. It is the turn of a line not a person. If the senior person from that line is not available, does the line forfeit its turn or they go with the most senior person from the same line?

They go with the most senior person from the other line. If this story is true to go by, it’s safe to allege that the Otun Balogun just wants to usurp Ladoja without waiting for his turn. Age has never been a favorable criterion for anyone, so the fear of not being crowned the paramount ruler before passing away is making those high chiefs misbehave.
Re: Ladoja Faults The Position Of Some Ibadan Chiefs On Olubadan Stool by Lanre1st(m): 8:28am On Apr 11
drawingbook:
Thats where the problem is. It is the turn of a line not a person. If the senior person from that line is not available, does the line forfeit its turn or they go with the most senior person from the same line?

In Ibadan, it's turn of line representative, no person can replace the representative from their clan else it goes to next line on the queue

People plenty in the queue

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Re: Ladoja Faults The Position Of Some Ibadan Chiefs On Olubadan Stool by Owutuotuo(m): 8:31am On Apr 11
FreeStuffsNG:
The Olubadan has been his ultimate ambition and joined the queue decades even before he became a Governor. The Olubadan is his ultimate prize.

It's almost his time but not yet his turn. He will one day become the Olubadan and it will be historic because that will be the first time that a former democratically- elected Governor will become the Olubadan if not the first time a former democratically- elected Governor becomes a First Class Oba in Nigeria.

His position is clear enough that you can not have any other crown in Ibadan apart from the Olubadan and he rejected the crown the Governor gave him while other high chiefs collected it.


He’ll be the first to be former Senator of the FGN, democratically-elected ex governor, and a first class king. Only Ajimobi came close.

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Re: Ladoja Faults The Position Of Some Ibadan Chiefs On Olubadan Stool by FreeStuffsNG: 8:31am On Apr 11
Difrent:


He has to wait his turn.
With all this his shenanigans, he thinks people won't make issues for him too when its his time abi

He is a minority here
He can only have his say , can't have his way.
He for no go withdraw the court cases now.

My joy is that Makinde has seen that this man just like making trouble and has since distanced himself from him. How can only you behave as if you are Wiser than everybody
Please what did he do or say wrong? That you are in majority doesn't mean that you are right. Some people just do follow follow without a mind of their own. I have not seen anything wrong in his position. He is not a pushover and you need a superior argument to defeat him not blackmail nau. Haba

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Re: Ladoja Faults The Position Of Some Ibadan Chiefs On Olubadan Stool by Owutuotuo(m): 8:33am On Apr 11
Agunesinjaweola:

Hymmmm 🤔
You're ignorant and misinformed !
Ladoja is the only one nurtured by the truth!
He remains relevant for his past antecedents.
Above all, Ladoja is the most favoured by the opinion polls by most people to ascend Olubadan stool.
It's a known fact Ajimobi bastardized Olubadan stool because of hate and envy of Ladoja who is in line to ascend the throne.
Ajimobi wanted Ladoja to bow for him by giving him the Crown but Ladoja is very intelligent and dodged the bullet.
Most Oyo people want Ladoja to become Olubadan because of the gang up against him for refusing to wear the small Crown !
Besides, Ladoja is the most Senior next in line to the throne.

You’re right on point. I couldn’t agree more.

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Re: Ladoja Faults The Position Of Some Ibadan Chiefs On Olubadan Stool by waice6571: 8:35am On Apr 11
drawingbook:
Thats where the problem is. It is the turn of a line not a person. If the senior person from that line is not available, does the line forfeit its turn or they go with the most senior person from the same line?

You've answered your question before asking it
Re: Ladoja Faults The Position Of Some Ibadan Chiefs On Olubadan Stool by Raf4: 8:41am On Apr 11
illicit:
You are the next Olubadan

This I have seen

It is not possible. The next is Balogun line and Ladoja is from Otun line. Even if anything happens (God forbid) to the 1st, 2nd & 3rd in Balogun line, the next most senior ie 4th will become Olubadan.
Re: Ladoja Faults The Position Of Some Ibadan Chiefs On Olubadan Stool by Kukutenla: 8:58am On Apr 11
jabor4Naija:
Power really does intoxicate, so even after spending years as governor, he still wants to remain relevant this wanting to be the next olubadan hmmmmm I wish him well
You don't even know what's going on
Re: Ladoja Faults The Position Of Some Ibadan Chiefs On Olubadan Stool by Kukutenla: 8:59am On Apr 11
drawingbook:
Thats where the problem is. It is the turn of a line not a person. If the senior person from that line is not available, does the line forfeit its turn or they go with the most senior person from the same line?
Well, nothing like availability or not. As long as the most senior person is not dead, he is the olubadan even if he's sick. No jumping of line

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Re: Ladoja Faults The Position Of Some Ibadan Chiefs On Olubadan Stool by Raf4: 9:02am On Apr 11
adioolayi:


Nothing like second angle...the both lines are lines..

It moves to the next in line which is Ladoja.

Irrespective of where the next high ranking chief is, either the civil or military line..the most senior of the two on the line is the next Olubadan.

Stop this misinformation.
This is the turn of Balogun line and even if the 1st four in Balogun line become incapacitated, the 5th in line will be crowned.

Ladoja knows this that's why he wants Olakulehin to crowned as soon as possible, so that Balogun line can take their slot even if it's for a day.
Ajibola on the other hand is also trying to delay the coronation so that the Balogun's opportunity will still be available and if anything happens to Olakulehin (according to Ajibola's wish and calculation) he will automatically fill in the gap and become Olubadan.
Both Ladoja and Ajibola are using the health condition of Olakulehin to position themselves for the throne. They want to set unpalatable precedence. Whether they like it or not, Olakulehin will be crowned the next Olubadan.
Re: Ladoja Faults The Position Of Some Ibadan Chiefs On Olubadan Stool by EleventhWeirdo: 9:06am On Apr 11
Difrent:


He has to wait his turn.
With all this his shenanigans, he thinks people won't make issues for him too when its his time abi

He is a minority here
He can only have his say , can't have his way.
He for no go withdraw the court cases now.

My joy is that Makinde has seen that this man just like making trouble and has since distanced himself from him. How can only you behave as if you are Wiser than everybody

He is indeed wiser than everyone, both S'eyi Makinde and his bunch of bonanza obas. That the majority support a wrong course does not make it right.
Re: Ladoja Faults The Position Of Some Ibadan Chiefs On Olubadan Stool by adioolayi(m): 9:19am On Apr 11
Raf4:


Stop this misinformation.
This is the turn of Balogun line and even if the 1st four in Balogun line become incapacitated, the 5th in line will be crowned.


It's the turn of Balogun line, no doubt...but it is solely for the incumbent Balogun.
If he passes on before installation..it moves to Otun Olubadan.

An Otun Balogun cannot become an Olubadan before Otun Olubadan....
Also, Osi Olubadan, for example from Civil Line cannot become an Olubadan before a Balogun....the Otun Balogun and Osi Olubadan can never have double promotion to upsurp an existing Balogun or Otun Olubadan...Never!

They will have to get promoted to their very next rank first.

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Re: Ladoja Faults The Position Of Some Ibadan Chiefs On Olubadan Stool by Raf4: 9:23am On Apr 11
Odidigboigbo:
Let's assumed that Baba Olakunlehin is bed ridden, does that mean that Ibadan will remain without a King or the kingship should be given to another person while he is still alive? Have a deep retrospect of this and put yourself in the shoe of Baba and his children. There is an adage in my place that says "good night, no one knows who will be awake before the other" . There is possibly of those that are saying Baba is bed ridden to die before Baba; I have seen it happen and it might likely happen again.

Don't mind them. When Oloyede Asanke became Olubadan in 1983, he couldn't walk on his own. Yet, he spent about 11 years on the throne and the younger and healthier person that was supposed to succeed him died before him.
Also when Emmanuel Adeyemo Operinde 1 became Olubadan in 1994 at the age of 89, he looked so frail and was being supported, yet he spent 6yrs on the throne while a younger, healthier and well educated Balogun Olunloyo that was supposed to succeed him died at 78yo a few months b4 Oba Adayemo's death.
Olakulehin will become Olubadan by God's grace.
Re: Ladoja Faults The Position Of Some Ibadan Chiefs On Olubadan Stool by Raf4: 9:31am On Apr 11
adioolayi:


He is the Otun Olubadan....so, if the Olubadan designated who happens to be the current Balogun of Ibadan is unable to ascend the throne (for death reasons), the crown goes back to the civil line, and that will be Ladoja

This can happen only if Olakulehin has been crowned Olubadan. If not yet crowned, it's still for Balogun line. That's why Ajibola wants the coronation of Olakulehin delayed. They are both being selfish and buying time to their favour.
Re: Ladoja Faults The Position Of Some Ibadan Chiefs On Olubadan Stool by Thereishel: 9:38am On Apr 11
Ladoja is trying to force a sick man to go through the stress of coronation so the former can be crowned as a king when the new Olubadan die within a short period of time. Ibadan with dribbling people nawa ooo

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