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Re: Is This Proper In A Private School Settings? by sprints1: 11:26am On May 01
immortalcrown:
What the school is doing is wrong.

But when you are in Rome, be a Roman. Your friend chose a school that has an exploitative management. Your friend should comply or resign.

Most of us help to create the avenue for our exploitation. Those who accept to work in badly-structured organisations are part of the problem. The school didn't force the friend to work in the school. If you willingly accept to work in such an organisation, don't complain.

There is something called unhealthy competition. Job hunters in Nigeria do it a lot. They see an organisation that has a bad management. They rush to work for the organisation and later complain. Their rush and the desperation they show even make those organisations to feel like gods. That's why those organisations don't even pay well because they know that many are desperate to take the jobs.

I know that life is hard. But if you make up your mind to accept a job in a bad organisation, also make up your mind to bear the consequences.

I am an orphan. My parents died poor. Nothing like inherited wealth for me. I lost interest in state universities and state polygenics because they are more corrupt than private and federal schools. I suffered for 10 years before I got an opportunity to attend a good university. But during the 10 years, many people around me complained about what they were facing in state schools. Each time I reminded them that they knew the school system before they accepted the school, they claimed I was very privileged. A few of them that know my background could not make the same claim, but they simply said, "Not everybody thinks like you".

I graduated last year. I am still searching for a job. But I have rejected 3 jobs because of the structures of those organisations and for the fact that they don't pay well. Some people claim I have pride. Those are the type of People that will accept the jobs, complain about the poor salary and the bad management. Yet, they will attack me when I blame them for accepting the job. This is also the mentality many of you use in marriages. You choose an incompatible partner or marry when you are not ready. You do this because of societal pressure. Then, you complain in the marriage.

If you don't want to frustrate yourself, be patient in life. After my secondary school, I waited for 10 years before I could get admission to a university. But I entered and graduated from a good university that has at least upgraded my life in terms of knowledge. I graduated last year. Because of that university, I got my passport and have visited a few African countries. If I had attended those public schools and complained like you people, I would have graduated many years ago. But I doubt if I could have travelled out of Nigeria by now.

Those who came up with the proverb that a patient dog eats the fatest bone are right. I attended a very poor public primary school. I attended a very bad public secondary school, where teachers hardly entered classes. If you check my history on this forum, you may come across a comment where I stated that the three senior classes in the secondary school I attended had only one Maths teacher who entered my class only four times in 3 years. The teacher entered my class twice in my SS1, once in my SS2 and once in my SS3.
I get you sir... You are a determined and hardworking person who takes no shiit... No one will know u didn't attend good elementary and secondary school. You write well.... Your reason above is the reason I have change my Job seven times in the sopace of ten years I don't spend more than 2 years in any organization. Because of their working environment... I once taught at a big school at Lagos. The entire school knew me despite having branches in Lagos... I don't take nonsense... That' why my boss liked me... I will do my job but the moment you start making me work unplanned or underpressure I start to get agitated... You expect me to do a 2 days job in an hour I don't condone such... I have learnt from you today sir... I don't know you but I believe we have so much in common...

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Re: Is This Proper In A Private School Settings? by tctrills: 11:26am On May 01
Nasri100:


Lagos State University Teaching Hospital (LASUTH).

I have a representative to go the hospital first thing tomorrow morning. What about you?

Cc Seun cc Mods
I prefer we do it today. Today is a public holiday and my sister would go to work tomorrow. Let's create a Whatsapp group to have records of all communications
Re: Is This Proper In A Private School Settings? by Nasri100(m): 11:27am On May 01
tctrills:

I was thinking more of orile agege general hospital but your idea is perfect. But then I prefer we do it today because my representative will have to work tomorrow. Give me the number of your rep and I will give you mine.
Then we 4 will create a Whatsapp group to monitor all communications.

You don’t need my number or my representative or my direct line or anything. This is not a conference. We don’t need a WhatsApp group too everything should be done on Nairaland so the world can see.

My representative will meet yours at the hospital at said date and time with cash and other items. I wanted him to do the item shopping today ahead of tomorrow but you are miraculously ready for it today which is a surprise.

All we need is a Nairaland mod to verify everything and we good. Nothing is going to whatsapp friend. Everything will be done on here.

Please respond to this Cc Seun
Re: Is This Proper In A Private School Settings? by SweetDipBenny(m): 11:29am On May 01
You never see for bank where security man the give teller "withdraw or deposit" grin

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Re: Is This Proper In A Private School Settings? by tuzle(m): 11:32am On May 01
erico2k2:

Public holidays are for civil servants by default, there is nowhere i n law that mandates private companies to observe public hoiday. But I get your point. Even some bankers will go to work during public holidays. Doctors and nurses and other emergency services go to work during public holidays!
The bankers that go to work during public holidays get paid for it and the nurses and doctors fall into a special case of workers.

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Re: Is This Proper In A Private School Settings? by erico2k2(m): 11:36am On May 01
tuzle:
The bankers that go to work during public holidays get paid for it and the nurses and doctors fall into a special case of workers.
This is why sometimes we adopt a nonchalant attitude in Nigeria, it Mayday here public holiday and I am at work, I am a salary earner in London so get paid at the end of each month. There is nothing wrong if you have to go to work on a public holiday to carry out tasks.
Re: Is This Proper In A Private School Settings? by tuzle(m): 11:47am On May 01
erico2k2:

This is why sometimes we adopt a nonchalant attitude in Nigeria, it Mayday here public holiday and I am at work, I am a salary earner in London so get paid at the end of each month. There is nothing wrong if you have to go to work on a public holiday to carry out tasks.
the problem here is that, the teachers in this case aren't going to do what is in their job description but going for advert. How would it feel if u where asked to go out and do marketing for ur job on a public holiday?
Re: Is This Proper In A Private School Settings? by erico2k2(m): 11:53am On May 01
tuzle:
the problem here is that, the teachers in this case aren't going to do what is in their job description but going for advert. How would it feel if u where asked to go out and do marketing for ur job on a public holiday?
lol you guys just dnt know! let me leave it at that. Have you not seen police distribute flyers?Hvae you not seen teachers creating awareness to the public on learning difficulties?Even hair stylist conduct workshops fully funded to empower youths and girls especially.
Re: Is This Proper In A Private School Settings? by Nacson(m): 12:01pm On May 01
Jubrilv:
If you are not okay with it tell your Dad to Build school for you so you can act anyhow you like

🥺 You sound like one

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Re: Is This Proper In A Private School Settings? by ebosed: 12:42pm On May 01
tuzle:
I was discussing with a friend of mine who is a teacher in a private school. I jokingly told him that as par there will be a public holiday tomorrow, that he would have a day rest when work hasn't started yet. That was how he told me that the school asked them to come around tomorrow, that they will be going for publication to distribute fliers around the environment.

Now my problem with this is that this particular school each arm has A to E (for example jss1 A to E) and they have more than 30 students in each class. So I was wondering why they are now troubling their teachers for something that isn't in their job description.

Like why can't the owner employ people to help him do the publication or go to radio or tv station for advert and the fact the teachers won't be paid for what they are doing as it is counter by the owner as part of their work. Is this behavior proper because it kinds of sounds annoying to me working in the sun on a public holiday just because of the owners selfish interest.

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1. Was your friend allowed to enjoy 3 weeks Holiday in April?

2. Was your friend allowed to enjoy 3 weeks Holiday in In December, 2023.

3. Was your friend allowed to enjoy 6 weeks Holiday in July/August 2023?

If the answer to all these is yes. It means your friend had 3months paid holiday in 12 months.

4. Does the Labour law in nigeria guarantee that any employee would be granted 3months paid vacation? If the answer is No.

Then, with these few points of mine, l hope I have been able to convince you that doing your job and doing some more (not in your job description) is not too much.

One day, you would need some unplanned day off to deal with some personal issues (health issues, family emergency, post graduate exams, extended maternity or paternity leave…etc). What you sow now is what you would reap then.

I sympathize with your friend, but take it easy, life is simple and easy, for those who see it that way. I am spending my holiday now in the hospital looking after a friend.

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Re: Is This Proper In A Private School Settings? by firearcher: 12:55pm On May 01
What most people forget is that many organisations start small and doesn't become big overnight. Sometimes it takes years to grow big enough to do some things some people are calling for.

I have worked with a one man business before and I know they can go to the extreme. But there are just some things some commenters are saying that are not realistic or practicable for small business owners
Re: Is This Proper In A Private School Settings? by tuzle(m): 1:00pm On May 01
ebosed:


1. Was your friend allowed to enjoy 3 weeks Holiday in April?

2. Was your friend allowed to enjoy 3 weeks Holiday in In December, 2023.

3. Was your friend allowed to enjoy 6 weeks Holiday in July/August 2023?

If the answer to all these is yes. It means your friend had 3months paid holiday in 12 months.

4. Does the Labour law in nigeria guarantee that any employee would be granted 3months paid vacation? If the answer is No.

Then, with these few points of mine, l hope I have been able to convince you that doing your job and doing some more (not in your job description) is not too much.

One day, you would need some unplanned day off to deal with some personal issues (health issues, family emergency, post graduate exams, extended maternity or paternity leave…etc). What you sow now is what you would reap then.

I sympathize with your friend, but take it easy, life is simple and easy, for those who see it that way. I am spending my holiday now in the hospital looking after a friend.
private schools don't give breaks like that, the July/august break usually have summer lesson for a month which is compulsory for teachers, some school may no even pay full for that service as they decide to share the profit from the lesson. Also most teachers resume a week before the actual resumption date to write lesson note and prepare for resumption so the 3 weeks break isn't actually 3 weeks and don't forget they fix classes for ss3 student during the last break in other to prepare them for waec.

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Re: Is This Proper In A Private School Settings? by Love800(m): 1:17pm On May 01
Goodafternoon bros.
Pls can you extend a good hand to me.
I will appreciate it.
U can check my profile to see dat am sincere.
Nasri100:


You don’t need my number or my representative or my direct line or anything. This is not a conference. We don’t need a WhatsApp group too everything should be done on Nairaland so the world can see.

My representative will meet yours at the hospital at said date and time with cash and other items. I wanted him to do the item shopping today ahead of tomorrow but you are miraculously ready for it today which is a surprise.

All we need is a Nairaland mod to verify everything and we good. Nothing is going to whatsapp friend. Everything will be done on here.

Please respond to this Cc Seun
Re: Is This Proper In A Private School Settings? by Love800(m): 1:20pm On May 01
Goodafternoon sir.
Pls can you extend your good hand to me.
I will appreciate it.
You can check my profile to see dat am sincere.
tctrills:

I prefer we do it today. Today is a public holiday and my sister would go to work tomorrow. Let's create a Whatsapp group to have records of all communications
Re: Is This Proper In A Private School Settings? by tctrills: 2:03pm On May 01
Nasri100:


You don’t need my number or my representative or my direct line or anything. This is not a conference. We don’t need a WhatsApp group too everything should be done on Nairaland so the world can see.

My representative will meet yours at the hospital at said date and time with cash and other items. I wanted him to do the item shopping today ahead of tomorrow but you are miraculously ready for it today which is a surprise.

All we need is a Nairaland mod to verify everything and we good. Nothing is going to whatsapp friend. Everything will be done on here.

Please respond to this Cc Seun
No need for item shopping. Let them just do cash. I could get me sister to the hospital in one hour. How about you
Re: Is This Proper In A Private School Settings? by 7upnigeria: 2:21pm On May 01
tctrills:

His friend is not the problem. We need structures to protect workers and to reduce exploitation. That's what's lacking.

Its what NLC should be doing but theyre more interested in making Obi President and collecting #600k monthly salary (HIGHLY LAUGHABLE). During Oshiomhole's time, many companies WERE CLOSED trying to misuse their staff, my Sister told me the story of how Oshimhole closed down Guardian newspapers when she was working there.
Re: Is This Proper In A Private School Settings? by tctrills: 2:39pm On May 01
7upnigeria:


Its what NLC should be doing but theyre more interested in making Obi President and collecting #600k monthly salary (HIGHLY LAUGHABLE). During Oshiomhole's time, many companies WERE CLOSED trying to misuse their staff, my Sister told me the story of how Oshimhole closed down Guardian newspapers when she was working there.
It's not about closing down businesses. We need policies. Government not NLC needs to enact laws that protect Nigerians. But we don't have a government.
Re: Is This Proper In A Private School Settings? by NinjaMetahuman: 2:41pm On May 01
tuzle:
how can coming on holidays to share fliers be part of their job description. This is a general public holiday
you domt have to agree to it and drop rhe job.
Re: Is This Proper In A Private School Settings? by Father4all: 2:47pm On May 01
Guy, in Nigeria now no job description
Re: Is This Proper In A Private School Settings? by tuzle(m): 2:50pm On May 01
NinjaMetahuman:
you domt have to agree to it and drop rhe job.
trust me I would have resigned since in I was in his shoes. I can do such kind of shitty job and they will still be stressing me.
Re: Is This Proper In A Private School Settings? by NinjaMetahuman: 2:51pm On May 01
tuzle:
trust me I would have resigned since in I was in his shoes. I can do such kind of shitty job and they will still be stressing me.
na so.
Re: Is This Proper In A Private School Settings? by 7upnigeria: 3:02pm On May 01
tctrills:

It's not about closing down businesses. We need policies. Government not NLC needs to enact laws that protect Nigerians. But we don't have a government.


Are there no laws when Oshiomhole closed down Guardian Newspapers? There are laws but Government people are more interested in making money, am talking about the officials of the Police, WAEC, EFCC, Ministry of education and others that have to do with government. But NLC is NOT GOVERNMENT sponsored, they should protect workers. Go to all these Indian and lebanese companies and see how their workers are badly treated. If NLC closes down one of them today and sends the video of how the staff are poorly treated on social media. People will take NLC serious.

NLC has become a political tool and they should be ready to fight POLITICAL FIGHTS, E go hard them. Take my word for it.
Re: Is This Proper In A Private School Settings? by NairalandGOAT1: 3:04pm On May 01
Tallesty1:
Workers play a part in workplace exploitation too. It is why I don't pity them sometimes.

Think about it: you won't get a 10k per month salary if you didn't accept a 10k per month job.
In Nigeria, someone will get hired as a security guard, first day at work, he will be asked to wash cars and he'll do it without complaint. The day after, he will be told to trim flowers, soon he will be doing that for everyone there, thereby taking away job opportunities from car washers and gardeners. But when he complains about his boss being unfair, he will forget he is part of the problem too. He is the reason a gardener somewhere is jobless.

Nobody will use anybody if we all stick to what our job entails, but no, you wan prove say you dey hardworking pass Esau


At the end of the day Jacob go still collect promotion wey Esau supposed collect!!!
Re: Is This Proper In A Private School Settings? by Zee0007: 3:08pm On May 01
Re: Is This Proper In A Private School Settings? by OkoRemi2023(m): 3:21pm On May 01
Tallesty1:
Workers play a part in workplace exploitation too. It is why I don't pity them sometimes.

Think about it: you won't get a 10k per month salary if you didn't accept a 10k per month job.
In Nigeria, someone will get hired as a security guard, first day at work, he will be asked to wash cars and he'll do it without complaint. The day after, he will be told to trim flowers, soon he will be doing that for everyone there, thereby taking away job opportunities from car washers and gardeners. But when he complains about his boss being unfair, he will forget he is part of the problem too. He is the reason a gardener somewhere is jobless.

Nobody will use anybody if we all stick to what our job entails, but no, you wan prove say you dey hardworking pass Esau



This is straight to the fact of what's happening



Employer using paying one salary for 4duties jobs
Re: Is This Proper In A Private School Settings? by DJInfluence: 3:30pm On May 01
tuzle:
I was discussing with a friend of mine who is a teacher in a private school. I jokingly told him that as par there will be a public holiday tomorrow, that he would have a day rest when work hasn't started yet. That was how he told me that the school asked them to come around tomorrow, that they will be going for publication to distribute fliers around the environment.

Now my problem with this is that this particular school each arm has A to E (for example jss1 A to E) and they have more than 30 students in each class. So I was wondering why they are now troubling their teachers for something that isn't in their job description.

Like why can't the owner employ people to help him do the publication or go to radio or tv station for advert and the fact the teachers won't be paid for what they are doing as it is counter by the owner as part of their work. Is this behavior proper because it kinds of sounds annoying to me working in the sun on a public holiday just because of the owners selfish interest.

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This is not a private school problem but an Africa problem. People employs a private driver but will send them to the market to buy foodstuffs.
Cooks will be asked to wash clothes and sweep compound.
People will employ a secretary but send them on errands outside the scope of a secretary. The list goes on.
The worst is that the employer will make the employee feels like they are doing them a favour when it comes to paying salary.
Re: Is This Proper In A Private School Settings? by tuzle(m): 3:31pm On May 01
NinjaMetahuman:
na so.

I have thought in the past and their are things I could take and not take. With where I have gotten to today, I would rather sit in my house than one person should be exploiting me on salary that is not up to 40k.
Re: Is This Proper In A Private School Settings? by spartachico(m): 3:42pm On May 01
With what you just said ...I refused to believe it's a private school ... Baba nla public school ... Jss1 A to E with 30 students in each class abeg that school just transitioned into private ... Iyalaya public ni before
Re: Is This Proper In A Private School Settings? by tctrills: 4:26pm On May 01
7upnigeria:



Are there no laws when Oshiomhole closed down Guardian Newspapers? There are laws but Government people are more interested in making money, am talking about the officials of the Police, WAEC, EFCC, Ministry of education and others that have to do with government. But NLC is NOT GOVERNMENT sponsored, they should protect workers. Go to all these Indian and lebanese companies and see how their workers are badly treated. If NLC closes down one of them today and sends the video of how the staff are poorly treated on social media. People will take NLC serious.

NLC has become a political tool and they should be ready to fight POLITICAL FIGHTS, E go hard them. Take my word for it.
Closing the newspaper clearly did not solve the problem of exploitative schools. Trust me there were thousands of exploitative schools in the days of Oshiomhole.
Re: Is This Proper In A Private School Settings? by Johnwrite(m): 4:51pm On May 01
Nawa oo
Re: Is This Proper In A Private School Settings? by sonofsteven: 5:32pm On May 01
GreatVocalist:

When it's not stated within the employee's job description? As an employer, if you're going to ask an employee to do a task outside their job description, then you should be willing to pay for that extra service.

Some people want to use their free time to develop themselves, why should you stop them from doing that simply because they work for you? It's not within their job description, so it shouldn't be made compulsory.


Well,here in china

They have may day holiday right now

May 1st-5th

5days holiday

But shipping companies didn't permit them(workers including chinese )to close

I asked my guy Allen the Chinese, he said there's holiday for 5days but you know our shipping company's boss has many waters in his head,he said no holiday with no compensation...... so you see,I've got first hand info, we need to stop thinking that it's only in Nigeria that these things happen, other countries have one or two things in common and if others in different countries can say the truth,you will realize that labor market or being employed get some bad sides which when you check other countries you see that they are almost similar
Re: Is This Proper In A Private School Settings? by Abee79(m): 7:23pm On May 01
O don't think there is anything wrong with creating awareness for your workplace - PROVIDED the compensation is adequate.

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