Jenifa_:

and copy them  

sooner or later, agbada and gele will be touted as traditional igbo clothing.

actually, Yorubas have copied Igbo dressing as well. Lets not make it like it is only one way

this is fashola, unless you want to tell me what this is named in yoruba

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ezeagu:

[size=14pt]Without being ran through by Islam:[/size]

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Yoruba influenced Bini Empire who inturn influenced the Igbo monarch. Infact the Yorubas amongst the Bini empire may have been the one to directly spread the practice through the SE.

Still an "Islamic" influence.

Its named Igbo-Minna, or is it Ijegbu-Igbo, or Igbo-Ora, I can't remember.

How about aku isi = Nigerian head tie. If they call it something different in your language ignore it?

What I'm trying to make you understand is that my interpretation if head-tie is different from yours. Gele does not equal aku isi. So all Nigerian head-ties cant be labeled as "gele" since they are various.
Like I said before, gele is a type of headtie so if you want to talk about Yoruba headties you can, but Nigerian headties in general is a whole other topic.

Ileke-IdI:

Gele = Nigerian headtie for now. If they call it sth diff in your language, ignore it and think Gele for now.

And are the designs on the gele Yoruba designs?

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[s]We should celebrate multiculralism, but that shouldnt stop us from knowing the source of his mixture. Inferiority display by NLers on here is not enough to stop me.
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odumchi:

How about aku isi = Nigerian head tie. If they call it something different in your language ignore it?

What I'm trying to make you understand is that my interpretation if head-tie is different from yours. Gele does not equal aku isi. So all Nigerian head-ties cant be labeled as "gele" since they are various.
Like I said before, gele is a type of headtie so if you want to talk about Yoruba headties you can, but Nigerian headties in general is a whole other topic.

I googled aku isi and got no results.
you sure?

try googling[i] gele[/i] and see the resulting images.

alj_harem:

actually, Yorubas have copied Igbo dressing as well. Lets not make it like it is only one way

this is fashola, unless you want to tell me what this is named in yoruba

[img]http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTAKnWqy3LVWQIIFn1H_T1Yzasc5-lIaZ20ur-Osp5GemFxudU-oQ[/img]

I'd love to know which attire we copied to the extent of practicing it during our traditional weddings.
I know that acculturation is not one sided, but plz post specifics.  

Ileke-IdI:


Yoruba influenced Bini Empire who inturn influenced the Igbo monarch. Infact the Yorubas amongst the Bini empire may have been the one to directly spread the practice through the SE.

Still an "Islamic" influence.

Very knowledgable of history aren't you? 9th century Igbo-Ukwu, the home of Nigerian bronze (and the oldest fly-whisk) was influenced by a non-existent Benin with a non-existent empire with a non-existent Oba with a non-existent bronzing tradtion in the 800s.

Again:

ezeagu:

[size=14pt]Without being ran through by Islam:[/size]

[center][img]http://migrationstoriesofnigerianigbo.files./2009/11/igbo-ukwu-burial.jpg[/img][/center]

NRI PRIEST:

Alh harem, have you been following this thread ?? You are not a man of integrity!! You are a liar,you are biased to the highest heavend and you are a compulsive tribalist!!! And please stop deceiving yourself by saying u are related to Igbos!! You are a very disgusting fool!!! U reeks of hate against the Igbos but if you continue like this you will never achieve anything in life!! YOU ARE A BLOODY STINKING AND UNREPENTANT IGBO HATING LIAR!!!

Hater, IF YOU TELL ME HOW, I WOULD DELETE MY ACCOUNT RIGHT NOW !!!!

HOW , I am waiting

Oldest fly-whisk in Nigeria, certified Igbo.

[center][img]http://schools.nashua.edu/myclass/lavalleev/Art%20History%20Pictures/ch15/15-04.jpg[/img][/center]

odumchi:

How about aku isi = Nigerian head tie. If they call it something different in your language ignore it?

What I'm trying to make you understand is that my interpretation if head-tie is different from yours. Gele does not equal aku isi. So all Nigerian head-ties cant be labeled as "gele" since they are various.
Like I said before, gele is a type of headtie so if you want to talk about Yoruba headties you can, but Nigerian headties in general is a whole other topic.

Is language the barrier issue for your here?

Of course each tribe is going to have a different name for the same headtie.

Not asking for linguistic history here.

Thanks.


Back to the question: When did we start wearing flamboyant geles?

Ileke-IdI:

Is language the barrier issue for your here?

Of course each tribe is going to have a different name for the same headtie.

Not asking for linguistic history here.

Thanks.


Back to the question: When did we start wearing flamboyant geles?

don't mind him. that igbo bride is CLEARLY wearing a gele.
aku ise ko, akposhe ni

Ileke-IdI:

I'd love to know which attire we copied to the extent of practicing it during our traditional weddings.
I know that acculturation is not one sided, but plz post specifics.  

Yeah, that's because your wear Arab clothing, not actual African clothing so you can't be inspired by the Igbo.

LOL About that flywhisk, where did that one start too?

I see another thread coming up.  

Nigeria and it's beautiful cultures. Finding the sources of each culture should be fun.

ezeagu:

Very knowledgable of history aren't you? 9th century Igbo-Ukwu, the home of Nigerian bronze (and the oldest fly-whisk) was influenced by a non-existent Benin with a non-existent empire with a non-existent Oba with a non-existent bronzing tradtion in the 800s.

Again:

True, the Empire in ala igbo were the first to build bronze in southern Nigeria.

I was discussing that with Ndu chuks on the other thread

Igbo people call head tie "ichafu isi", yorubas call it gele.
And what is that outfit Fashola is wearing
Ezeagu,thanks for posting that Fashola pics!! Let me see what will happen now !!

See the Yoruba influence even in Europe and Asia: "Gele" everywhere!

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I don't understand why Igbos on this thread are fighting. Where it is aku isi or gele. Head gear is head gear. Really you people are funny

some call this hate

other call this bigotry

but what is it is what it is.

Should I say gele is of igbo origin ? when i know it is not. D'is see me see trouble

Ileke-IdI:

Is language the barrier issue for your here?

Of course each tribe is going to have a different name for the same headtie.

Not asking for linguistic history here.

Thanks.


Back to the question: When did we start wearing flamboyant geles?

Ileke, gele is only relevant to Yoruba is what I'm trying to say. I don't know how I can be any clearer.

Ileke-IdI:

LOL About that flywhisk, where did that one start too?

I see another thread coming up.  

Nigeria and it's beautiful cultures. Finding the sources of each culture should be fun.

9th century [size=14pt]bronze[/size], oldest in Nigeria, got any older?

NRI PRIEST:

Igbo people call head tie "ichafu isi", yorubas call it gele.
A[b]nd what is that outfit Fashola is wearing
Ezeagu,thanks for posting that Fashola pics!! Let me see what will happen no[/b]w !!

It is not ezeage but Me that posted the picture. Or your hate for me has blinded you to that as well

In short:

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ezeagu:

9th century [size=14pt]bronze[/size], oldest in Nigeria, got any older?

correction. SOUTHERN NIGERIA

the kanuri dates back as 4th century

odumchi:



Ileke, gele is only relevant to Yoruba is what I'm trying to say. I don't know how I can be any clearer.

That's an interesting opinion.
Why other women of other tribes wear the same head gear should be an interesting explanation.

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ezeagu:

In short:

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Those are not gele or ichici isi

In fact:

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stupid nigerians fighting over what did not originate from nigeria, even the ghananians started wearing it before the yorubas and igbos knew what it is, all the pictures ilekidi posted can be from any afican country as the women and men all dress the same,  everyother thing from the women head tie to the men clothing and lace are worn by all west african and central african group.


Its origin lies with the clothing worn by the Islamized Tukulor, Mandé and Songhai peoples of the historic 8th Century Takrur and Ghana Empires, and 13th Century Mali and Songhai Empires, (See Bisht and Kaftan for information on these).
The use of the Grand boubou as clothing became widespread throughout the West African region with the migration of semi-nomadic groups such as the Fulani, and traders such as the Dyula and Hausa. Comparing the Grand boubou to the various styles of Arabic Thawb suggests the Grand boubou follows an archaic template to the contemporary male clothing of the Middle East and North Africa.
[edit]Use

The Grand boubou is usually decorated with intricate embroidery, and is worn on special religious or ceremonial occasions, for example the two Islamic Eid festivals, weddings, funerals or for attending the Mosque for Friday prayer. It has become the formal attire of many countries in West Africa. Older robes have become family heirlooms passed on from father to son and are worn as status symbols.
The Boubou has female versions in Mali, Senegal, Gambia and Guinea, whereas in other regions of West Africa, the female formal clothing has been the wrapper.

alj_harem:

correction. SOUTHERN NIGERIA

the kanuri dates back as 4th century

Do you have any links?

htajz:

silly nigerians fighting over what did not originate from nigeria, even the ghananians started wearing it before the yorubas and igbos knew what it is, all the pictures ilekidi posted can be from any afican country as the women and men all dress the same,  everyother thing from the women head tie to the men clothing and lace are worn by all west african and central african group.


Its origin lies with the clothing worn by the Islamized Tukulor, Mandé and Songhai peoples of the historic 8th Century Takrur and Ghana Empires, and 13th Century Mali and Songhai Empires, (See Bisht and Kaftan for information on these).
The use of the Grand boubou as clothing became widespread throughout the West African region with the migration of semi-nomadic groups such as the Fulani, and traders such as the Dyula and Hausa. Comparing the Grand boubou to the various styles of Arabic Thawb suggests the Grand boubou follows an archaic template to the contemporary male clothing of the Middle East and North Africa.
[edit]Use

The Grand boubou is usually decorated with intricate embroidery, and is worn on special religious or ceremonial occasions, for example the two Islamic Eid festivals, weddings, funerals or for attending the Mosque for Friday prayer. It has become the formal attire of many countries in West Africa. Older robes have become family heirlooms passed on from father to son and are worn as status symbols.
The Boubou has female versions in Mali, Senegal, Gambia and Guinea, whereas in other regions of West Africa, the female formal clothing has been the wrapper.

Very very false and wrong

clothing was introduced to ghanaians by Fulanis

ashanti use to wear stone cloth back then and that was why they were the protective culture

ezeagu:

Do you have any links?

Yes I do

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=HwV2a-lPB70C&pg=PA143&lpg=PA143&dq=carbon+dating+ife+bronze&source=bl&ots=CEmO0LGqdY&sig=ymVJha4-dtnjjFXfh5x4HpRTaqk&hl=en&ei=WkO4TrP_KY6ZhQegnvmfBA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CCgQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=radiodating&f=false

alj_harem:

Very very false and wrong

clothing was introduced to ghanaians by Fulanis

ashanti use to wear stone cloth back then and that was why they were the protective culture

and what the Bleep is gele ?? head tie is head tie ,ileki stop fooling yoruself here

htajz:

[size=18pt]and what the bleep is gele [/size]?? head tie is head tie ,ileki stop fooling yoruself here

Go and ask Ask Google, then come back for proper discussion.