Kingsempires:
Go and ask God that question

Petalss:

You could have just told me where the third person will be. Do you know?

Janosky:

Where the 3rd person will be,Your 3 deities refused to release that expo

3 spirits in one being & no Trinitarian knows where the 3rd person stays.

You guys are clowns.

Man made invention of Nicene removed una sense.

Petalss:

Apology accepted.

Sand2022:
As a JW, one teaching I was opposed to was the trinitarian doctrine. I cannot see how Jesus can be God. I feel they are distinct persons and that Jehovah is the only God. That only Jehovah should be worshipped. When I became a JW, I was further told the meaning of Trinity, and I came to have more hatred for the doctrine. From what the witnesses taught me, I told myself that I didn't even believe this trinity even while I was in the church. Three persons in one God is contradictory to me.

I knew the proves the witnesses have against Trinity. As an elder I taught this from the platform then. But recently, I revisited that doctrine. This time through a personal scriptural analysis to see what the Bible has to say. But before I tell you what I found out scripturally, let us first look at the meaning of Trinity which for many years I never knew.

I found out that Trinity doesn't mean three persons inside one God. Rather three persons that has one Nature. The nature aspect is what I had missed for many years. I never understood it that way before.

Their are three persons, but they have one nature. From what I understand, when we think about God, we mean the creator of heaven and earth, MOST importantly, when we think of God, we mean our Deity. Now what trinitarians are saying is that there are more than one persons who match that description, but all of them possess the same features we have in mind when we say God. In other words they have the same Nature, but they are not one person.


Let's say it another way. When you say Human. You obviously know that the feature of humankind is not possessed by just one person. There are many, but they all have the same human features. So when you think about God, you are thinking about a nature. In that nature are three persons that possess it.

This is a huge game changer in my Trinity journey. You may have noticed that I have avoided Trinity subject in this board. This is deliberate. Prior to this time, I never believed that doctrine. And for some time, I delved into it, and started to see things differently. My approach to this subject might be different from what you have ever heard before on this subject because I did my study, and i also tried to view the subject from a JW perspective and saw that even from JW teaching, you cant run away from this one nature shared by the three, especially the two, father and Son.

In my part 2 of this trinity series, We will start from John 1:1. Let's trace Jesus origin once more. Check in next week Thursday.

Kingsempires:
Guy I no understand you ooo

Steep:
you are right God is a nature or a being who exist in three individuals. In other words the same God who is the Father is the same God who is the Son but a different person and the same God who is the Holy Spirit who is a different person from the Father and Son.

Kingsempires:
thanks

Janosky:

Where the 3rd person will be,Your 3 deities refused to release that expo

3 spirits in one being & no Trinitarian knows where the 3rd person stays.

You guys are clowns.

Man made invention of Nicene removed una sense.

Courz:


Nice one Sand2022. As a former JW myself, when I woke up, I decided to read the Bible for myself without the JW interpretation. I made sure to dump the New World Translation Bible of JW and read different Bible versions. I also used to think the Trinity doctrine was foolish and made no sense as a JW. But when I read the Bible for myself, I saw instances where Jesus is called God. I also noticed that Almighty God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit always act together. They are separate of course but whenever one does something, it is the 3 of them doing it. This was what I kept seeing in the Bible.

For example, in the Bible, it is said God raised Jesus from the dead. It is also said Jesus told the Jews Destroy this temple and in 3 days , I will raise it up again. The temple is his body. Meaning, Jesus raised his body back to life. Then in another verse, it says the Holy Spirit dwelling in us is the same Spirit that brought Jesus back to life. See? This is God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit acting together. They are truly One even though separate.

I don't know if you have watched Near Death Experiences. There are testimonies of Christians who went to heaven when they died. I have one testimony of a very young boy although it isn't a Near Death Experience. It is an experience of seeing heaven made possible by Jesus himself. This boy should be 7 or 8 years old. The boy was narrating his vision of heaven to his parents. He said he saw Jesus and saw God as described in the Bible but he couldn't see God's face as that's not possible. He said he noticed that God and Jesus would merge together to be one and at some point would separate. I found this interesting because it lines up with what Jesus said: I am in the Father and the Father is in Me. It also lines up with the verse that says Jesus is the exact representation of his Father in Divinity. Also, the same Bible says The Holy Spirit dwells in us once we accept Jesus. It also says Jesus dwells in us. It then says our body is the temple of God. The three always act in Unison. This is the only way to explain The Trinity doctrine that aligns with the Bible.

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Petalss:

It is just unfair to the third person, 3 in 1 buh only 2 have a throne to sit on.

FxMasterz:


Wow! I'm so edified.

Courz:


I don't believe the Holy Spirit is God though that should be worshipped since the Bible never said so. But these verses have made me to realise that Jesus is more than a messenger. He is so much more. He is Mighty God as he created everything. Almighty God is also God and our creator. The same Holy Spirit was in action during creation. God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit are truly One
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Courz post
" I don't believe the Holy Spirit is God though that should be worshipped since the Bible never said so"

FX Masterz is "so edified" that Courz refused to worship him 3rd person deities.


All of una,all Trinitarians are confused by the 3rd ghost giving una conflicting contradictory revelations.

Sand2022:
As a JW, one teaching I was opposed to was the trinitarian doctrine. I cannot see how Jesus can be God. I feel they are distinct persons and that Jehovah is the only God. That only Jehovah should be worshipped. When I became a JW, I was further told the meaning of Trinity, and I came to have more hatred for the doctrine. From what the witnesses taught me, I told myself that I didn't even believe this trinity even while I was in the church. Three persons in one God is contradictory to me.

I knew the proves the witnesses have against Trinity. As an elder I taught this from the platform then. But recently, I revisited that doctrine. This time through a personal scriptural analysis to see what the Bible has to say. But before I tell you what I found out scripturally, let us first look at the meaning of Trinity which for many years I never knew.

I found out that Trinity doesn't mean three persons inside one God. Rather three persons that has one Nature. The nature aspect is what I had missed for many years. I never understood it that way before.

Their are three persons, but they have one nature. From what I understand, when we think about God, we mean the creator of heaven and earth, MOST importantly, when we think of God, we mean our Deity. Now what trinitarians are saying is that there are more than one persons who match that description, but all of them possess the same features we have in mind when we say God. In other words they have the same Nature, but they are not one person.


Let's say it another way. When you say Human. You obviously know that the feature of humankind is not possessed by just one person. There are many, but they all have the same human features. So when you think about God, you are thinking about a nature. In that nature are three persons that possess it.

This is a huge game changer in my Trinity journey. You may have noticed that I have avoided Trinity subject in this board. This is deliberate. Prior to this time, I never believed that doctrine. And for some time, I delved into it, and started to see things differently. My approach to this subject might be different from what you have ever heard before on this subject because I did my study, and i also tried to view the subject from a JW perspective and saw that even from JW teaching, you cant run away from this one nature shared by the three, especially the two, father and Son.

In my part 2 of this trinity series, We will start from John 1:1. Let's trace Jesus origin once more. Check in next week Thursday.

MightySparrow:

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I have had discussions with some JWs myself and discovered that what they understand by Trinity is sometimes modalism. Their claims, apart from, scriptural harassment are not correct.

Janosky:



Courz post
" I don't believe the Holy Spirit is God though that should be worshipped since the Bible never said so"

FX Masterz is "so edified" that Courz refused to worship him 3rd person deities.


All of una,all Trinitarians are confused by the 3rd ghost giving una conflicting contradictory revelations.

Janosky:




Because Trinity nah man made invention.

Courz:


Mumu. Why do you baptise people in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit?

Kingsempires:
am also asking that question

Janosky:


Is Jesus Christ a Trinitarian?

Modalism was invented by your fellow Trinitarians

The heresy of modalism has been around since the third century AD. Proposed by bishop Sabellius, this doctrine asserts that God exists as one Person who shifts between three faces: one for the Father, one for the Son, and one for the Holy Spirit.21 Mar 2023
https://www.christianity.com › wiki
What Is the Heresy of Modalism? - Christianity.com


Oga, continue WAILING and deceiving yourself.

Courz:


Mumu. Why do you baptise people in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit?

Janosky:


I challenge you to use your own Bible and show this forum:
Which believer was baptized according to that verse "baptise people in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit?"

Oga, mention that believer or get outta here with your IBERIBEISM.

Kingsempires:
am also asking that question

Courz:


Mumu. Why do you baptise people in the Name of the Father, and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit?

Courz WAILING WAILER,
Oga ,Show evidence from your Bible and tell us the name of the believer baptized with that formula.

Janosky:



Courz WAILING WAILER,
Oga ,Show evidence from your Bible and tell us the name of the believer baptized with that formula.

MightySparrow:


This topic is brought up by your fellow hall goer. Why not face him?

Courz:



See your Bible from JW org. What Is it saying there? What Is the Trinity doing there?

Janosky:


Courz WAILING IBERIBEISM.

Courz:


What Is the Trinity that you hate so much doing in your own Bible?

Janosky:


Which verse in your Bible is the word 'trinity' found?

Waa za gha !!!!!

Janosky:


Which verse in your Bible is the word 'trinity' found?

Waa za gha !!!!!