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Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Emusan(m): 4:50pm On Sep 16 |
CAPTIVATOR: No! Going back to default mode. Spirit of man is a person that is why JE HAS ABILITY TO KNOW OUR THOUGHT. The challenge has come back, proof to me first how INANIMATE OBJECT CAN KNOW THOUGHT. And Jesus lied only the Father knows his own thoughts ? Your claim not mine. The scripture says Jesus KNOWS ALL THINGS. You know the implication that was the reason you called the blessed Apostles liar. 1 Like |
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by CAPTIVATOR: 4:51pm On Sep 16 |
Emusan: For someone that doesn't know the day and hour ... So you can't provide where he said it himself ? Shame. |
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Emusan(m): 4:53pm On Sep 16 |
CAPTIVATOR: His listeners heard Him when He made that statement and the same LISTENERS SAID THEIR LORD AND MASTER KNOWS ALL THINGS and their MASTER AND LORD ACKNOWLEDGED it. Reason why you called it MISTAKE ON THEIR PART because you're an enemy of the truth. 1 Like |
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by CAPTIVATOR: 4:53pm On Sep 16 |
Emusan: A spirit person was sent inside earthly wombs like Jesus Christ birth ?
Jesus said only the Father knows his own thoughts. Nobody else know his thoughts concerning the day and hour. Just admit Jesus lied because this single statement has ruined everything you saying |
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by CAPTIVATOR: 4:55pm On Sep 16 |
Emusan:Eeyahhhhh Provide where Jesus himself contradicted himself that he doesn't know the day and hour ? |
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Emusan(m): 4:55pm On Sep 16 |
CAPTIVATOR: Is John 16:30 and John 21:17 not in YOUR BIBLE? The scripture says JESUS KNOWS ALL THINGS. You contended with this truth so teeee you have to called the blessed Apostles liar. Remember you can't provide where Jesus or anyone in the Bible called Jesus Michael. 1 Like |
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by CAPTIVATOR: 4:58pm On Sep 16 |
Emusan: You still can't provide where Jesus contradict his own statement that the son doesn't know the day nd hour ? |
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Emusan(m): 4:58pm On Sep 16 |
CAPTIVATOR: Says you. Jesus said only the Father knows his own thoughts. Nobody else know his thoughts concerning the day and hour. Just admit Jesus lied because this single statement has ruined everything you saying The Holy spirit KNOWS THE THOUGHT OF GOD. The truth was so heavy for you that you have to say it's PERSONIFICATION. Jesus knows ALL THINGS You can't bear this truth you have to spew the trash that the Apostles MADE MISTAKE. 1 Like |
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Emusan(m): 4:59pm On Sep 16 |
CAPTIVATOR: I've provided the scripture just tell me what I said was not in God's word. 1 Like |
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by CAPTIVATOR: 5:00pm On Sep 16 |
Emusan: Says The meaning of spirit of man is a person. Did God send a spirit person to wombs or breath ?
But holy spirit doesn't know the Father thought concerning the day and hour ? Two persons or one person. Who knows the day and hour ? |
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Emusan(m): 5:02pm On Sep 16 |
CAPTIVATOR: 1. Was Jesus heard His own Apostles when they said we know that YOU(Jesus) KNOW ALL THINGS? 2. If it was a MISTAKE will Jesus correct them? 3. Why did Jesus ACKNOWLEDGED TBEIR STATEMENT rather than ENDORSING IT? 1 Like |
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by CAPTIVATOR: 5:03pm On Sep 16 |
Emusan: In short you can't find anywhere Jesus himself contradicted what he admitted about the son at Matthew 23:46 ? |
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by CAPTIVATOR: 5:04pm On Sep 16 |
Emusan: Provide where he endorse their statement with his own mouth that he knows all things ? I can provide where he admitted he doesn't know all things. |
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Emusan(m): 5:07pm On Sep 16 |
CAPTIVATOR: Your head is already overheating. Try to relax when because what jargons did you put up here? Did God send a spirit person to wombs or breath? So you know GOD ACTUALLY SENT something to womb. Well, that is your own perverted understand. God gave EVERY HUMAN A spirit and the Spirit is a PERSON. But holy spirit doesn't know the Father thought concerning the day and hour? Provide where scripture say this. Two persons or one person. Who knows the day and hour ? The Holy Knows the THOUGHT of God. Let that sink first 1 Like |
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Emusan(m): 5:07pm On Sep 16 |
CAPTIVATOR: Answer my question above.. No hiding place for you. 1 Like |
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Emusan(m): 5:08pm On Sep 16 |
CAPTIVATOR: Read the scripture I provided earlier. The goal post is about to be shift again 1 Like |
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by CAPTIVATOR: 5:39pm On Sep 16 |
Emusan: What did God send into the Earthly womb 1. Spirit person 2. Breath of life
Matthew 23:46 some thoughts are for the Father alone. Is holy spirit the same person called Father ? |
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by CAPTIVATOR: 5:40pm On Sep 16 |
Emusan: It wasn't Jesus speaking in the verses you provided, those speaking contradicted Jesus at Matthew 24:36 |
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Emusan(m): 12:11pm On Sep 17 |
CAPTIVATOR: But that statement was MADE IN THE PRESENCE OF JESUS CONCERNING JESUS HIMSELF. Why are you turning your blind eyes to this fact. Do you think Jesus will not correct His own Apostles if they make any MISTAKE? You have this mindset because Watchtower had brainwashed you to accept that after Jesus chosen Watchtower as the ONLY true religion on earth Jesus still left them to be MAKING MISTAKES. 1 Like |
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Emusan(m): 12:17pm On Sep 17 |
CAPTIVATOR: No where in the scripture you read that God EVER SENT ANYTHING INTO woman WOMB, it's part of your delusion. God GAVE HUMAN SPIRIT and that Spirit is a PERSON as The spirit has the ABILITY TO KNOW thought. Only a person has the ABILITY to know THOUGHT. proof me wrong on this first. Matthew 23:46 some thoughts are for the Father alone. Is holy spirit the same person called Father ? Jesus KNOWS ALL THINGS Reason you called the Apostles a liar. The Holy spirit knows the mind of God and the VERY THOUGHT OF GOD. These are truth from the scriptures you have been battling with since. Reason you have to say for Holy spirit to know God MIND AND THOUGHT means it's PERSONIFICATION. Which is the MEANING you gave for your own SELFISH INTEREST. 1 Like |
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Janosky: 12:19pm On Sep 17 |
Emusan: ONLY God the Father knows. Acts 1:7 & Matthew 24:36. Jesus Christ said so twice. [b]When the holy scriptures exposes any FALSE claims by Trinitarians they respond with insults & personal attacks to save face. Their Sifia pains.
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Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by CAPTIVATOR: 3:13pm On Sep 17 |
Emusan: God gave Spirit to man at what point ? " Body without spirit is dead" This means that Baby in the womb needed Spirit to come alive, So the question is what did God gave that body in the womb or Adam at creation to come alive. 1. A spirit person ( Since spirit is a person) 2. Breath [ a force of life] |
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by CAPTIVATOR: 3:16pm On Sep 17 |
Emusan: Jesus said ' Only the Father know the day and hour ' Is Jesus the Father ? Die He lied ? 1 Like |
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Emusan(m): 11:46am On Sep 18 |
CAPTIVATOR: And the scripture says JESUS KNOWS ALL THINGS. The scripture also said the Holy spirit KNOWS THE THOUGHT of God. 1 Like |
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Emusan(m): 11:54am On Sep 18 |
CAPTIVATOR: Your ignorance is very glaring. So you believe God BREATH IN EVERY WOMAN WOMB anytime they get pregnant. Including those you consider ENEMIES OF GOD This is very laughable. Medically, when a baby is forming in the womb the body and brain have formed to certain level before HEART formed, even before heart formed, can we say the baby is dead? So your body without SPIRIT shows you don't understand what you're comparing with each other. The fact remains, human spirit is A PERSON because the SPIRIT KNOWS THE THOUGHT. First proof me wrong that inanimate object can know THOUGHT. 1 Like |
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by CAPTIVATOR: 1:42pm On Sep 18 |
Emusan: That is the knitting together stage, he did same for Adam from the dust of the ground. " You [God] made all the delicate, inner parts of my body and knit me together in my mother’s womb " Psalm 139:13 God gave what he knit together Spirit , which is ? 1. - Breath of life 2. A spirit person transferred |
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by CAPTIVATOR: 1:45pm On Sep 18 |
Emusan:" only" is written there. The above is saying Jesus lied when he said only the Father when others also know. Is Jesus the Father ? Is Holy spirit the Father ? |
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Emusan(m): 5:31pm On Sep 18 |
CAPTIVATOR: And the scripture says JESUS KNOWS ALL THINGS. If you're not a manipulative person. Why did you say the Apostles made MISTAKE for saying Jesus KNOWS ALL THINGS? That was because you quite know what it means to KNOW ALL THINGS. 1 Like |
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Emusan(m): 5:33pm On Sep 18 |
CAPTIVATOR: That means your point body without spirit is useless. "You [God] made all the delicate, inner parts of my body and knit me together in my mother’s womb " Psalm 139:13 So God sat with a woman and was doing all this with His own hand during pregnancy bah.. Too many dull post 1 Like |
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by CAPTIVATOR: 10:04pm On Sep 19 |
Emusan:Ignorance. Except the baby in the womb isn't living. Presence of life is a testament to the presence of Spirit. What is the Spirit that God gave this Foetus that enable it come to life? 1. A spirit person 2. Breath 1 Like |
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by CAPTIVATOR: 10:08pm On Sep 19 |
Emusan:You just open your mouth like it isn't The scriptures also that say the Son doesn't know the day and hour , the scriptures further it more . Only the Father knows the day and hour . In light of that truth, anyone said to know all things but doesn't know the day nd hour doesn't know all things. To know all things , you should know the day and hour , which the Scriptures clarify the Son doesn't know. You see that area I bolded , it proofs there is only one person in the entire universe who knows all things . The Father. Is Jesus the Father ? |
Re: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine. Part 1 by Emusan(m): 1:13pm On Sep 21 |
CAPTIVATOR: That is the difference between you and I. Here is the point again. The same PEOPLE Jesus stood in their presence and said ONLY THE FATHER KNOWS, is the same PEOPLE WHO DECLARED IN THE PRESENCE OF JESUS (WHO ONCE SAID ONLY THE FATHER KNOWS) that Jesus KNOWS ALL THINGS. The meaning of "ALL THINGS" as used for Jesus was so profound that you and your cohorts CLAIMED THE APOSTLES MADE MISTAKE simply because of you people hatred for the TRUTH. So, let me repeat the point I've been hammering on your empty skull since. The Apostles made that statement in the PRESENCE OF Jesus, if there is something wrong with IT, Jesus is the one who is in the right position to CORRECT THEM but alas Jesus went to reinforced what THEY BELIEVED. Definitely, it's you who FAILED to understand Jesus not Jesus Himself nor His Apostles. In light of that truth, anyone said to know all things but doesn't know the day nd hour doesn't know all things. To know all things , you should know the day and hour , which the Scriptures clarify the Son doesn't know. I've colored your delusion, read it again and tell me how it makes sense to you. You see that area I bolded , it proofs there is only one person in the entire universe who knows all things . The Father. Jesus KNOWS ALL THINGS Reason why you and your cohorts made the bold statement that the Apostles MADE MISTAKE. If that is not an implications to you then no way you can be redeemed from your delusion. 1 Like |
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