tidytim:

A contradiction occurs when one statement on a subject excludes the possibility of another.

What was man created from, blood, clay, dust, or nothing?
"Created man, out of a (mere) clot of congealed blood," (96:2).
"We created man from sounding clay, from mud moulded into shape, (15:26).
"The similitude of Jesus before Allah is as that of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him: "Be". And he was," (3:59).
"But does not man call to mind that We created him before out of nothing?" (19:67, Yusuf Ali). Also, 52:35).
"He has created man from a Fluid-drop; and behold this same (man) becomes an open disputer! (16:4).

Is there or is there not compulsion in religion according to the Qur'an?
"Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error: whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things," (2:256).

"And an announcement from Allah and His Messenger, to the people (assembled) on the day of the Great Pilgrimage,- that Allah and His Messenger dissolve (treaty) obligations with the Pagans. If then, ye repent, it were best for you; but if ye turn away, know ye that ye cannot frustrate Allah. And proclaim a grievous penalty to those who reject Faith," (9:3).

"But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practice regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful," (9:5).

Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued," (9:29).

[size=18pt]Aren't there some verses of the Qur'an that condone "killing the infidel"? [/size]
By Huda, About.com Guide

Question: Aren't there some verses of the Qur'an that condone "killing the infidel"?
Answer: The Qur'an commands Muslims to stick up for themselves in a defensive battle -- i.e. if an enemy army attacks, then Muslims are to fight against that army until they stop their aggression. All of the verses that speak about fighting/war in the Qur'an are in this context.
There are some specific verses that are very often "snipped" out of context, either by critics of Islam discussing "jihadism," or by misguided Muslims themselves who wish to justify their aggressive tactics.


"Slay Them" - If They Attack You First
For example, one verse (in its snipped version) reads: "slay them wherever you catch them" (Qur'an 2:191). But who is this referring to? Who are "they" that this verse discusses? The preceding and following verses give the correct context:
"Fight in the cause of God those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for God loves not transgressors. And slay them wherever you catch them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out; for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter, But if they cease, God is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful, If they cease, let there be no hostility except to those who practice oppression" (2:190-193).
It is clear from the context that these verses are discussing a defensive war, when a Muslim community is attacked without reason, oppressed and prevented from practicing their faith. In these circumstances, permission is given to fight back -- but even then Muslims are instructed not to transgress limits, and to cease fighting as soon as the attacker gives up. Even in these circumstances, Muslim are only to fight directly against those who are attacking them, not innocent bystanders or non-combatants.


"Fight the Pagans" - If They Break Treaties
A similar verse can be found in chapter 9, verse 5 -- which in its snipped, out of context version could read: "fight and slay the pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war)." Again, the preceding and following verses give the context.
This verse was revealed during a historical period when the small Muslim community had entered into treaties with neighboring tribes (Jewish, Christian, and pagan). Several of the pagan tribes had violated the terms of their treaty, secretly aiding an enemy attack against the Muslim community. The verse directly before this one instructs the Muslims to continue to honor treaties with anyone who has not since betrayed them, because fulfilling agreements is considered a righteous action. Then the verse continues, that those who have violated the terms of the treaty have declared war, so fight them, (as quoted above).

Directly after this permission to fight, the same verse continues, "but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practice regular charity, then open the way for them, for God is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful." The subsequent verses instruct the Muslims to grant asylum to any member of the pagan tribe/army who asks for it, and again reminds that "as long as these stand true to you, stand ye true to them: for God loves the righteous."


Conclusion
Any verse that is quoted out of context misses the whole point of the message of the Qur'an. Nowhere in the Qur'an can be found support for indiscriminate slaughter, the killing of non-combatants, or murder of innocent persons in 'payback' for another people's alleged crimes.
The Islamic teachings on this subject can be summed up in the following verses (Qur'an 60:7-:
"It may be that God will grant love (and friendship) between you and those whom ye (now) hold as enemies. For God has power (over all things), and God is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
God does not forbid you, with regard to those who fight you not for (your) faith nor drive you out of your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with them: for God loves those who are just."

http://islam.about.com/od/terrorism/f/terrorism_verse.htm

The first Muslim was Muhammad? Abraham? Jacob? Moses?
"And I [Muhammad] am commanded to be the first of those who bow to Allah in Islam," (39:12).

"When Moses came to the place appointed by Us, and his Lord addressed him, He said: "O my Lord! show (Thyself) to me, that I may look upon thee." Allah said: "By no means canst thou see Me (direct); But look upon the mount; if it abide in its place, then shalt thou see Me." When his Lord manifested His glory on the Mount, He made it as dust. And Moses fell down in a swoon. When he recovered his senses he said: "Glory be to Thee! to Thee I turn in repentance, and I am the first to believe." (7:143).

"And this was the legacy that Abraham left to his sons, and so did Jacob; "Oh my sons! Allah hath chosen the Faith for you; then die not except in the Faith of Islam," (2:132).

Does Allah forgive or not forgive those who worship false gods?
Allah forgiveth not that partners should be set up with Him; but He forgiveth anything else, to whom He pleaseth; to set up partners with Allah is to devise a sin Most heinous indeed," (4:48). Also 4:116

The people of the Book ask thee to cause a book to descend to them from heaven: Indeed they asked Moses for an even greater (miracle), for they said: "Show us Allah in public," but they were dazed for their presumption, with thunder and lightning. Yet they worshipped the calf even after clear signs had come to them; even so we forgave them; and gave Moses manifest proofs of authority," (4:153).

Are Allah's decrees changed or not?
"Rejected were the messengers before thee: with patience and constancy they bore their rejection and their wrongs, until Our aid did reach them: there is none that can alter the words (and decrees) of Allah. Already hast thou received some account of those messengers," (6:34).

"The word of thy Lord doth find its fulfillment in truth and in justice: None can change His words: for He is the one who heareth and knoweth all, (6:115).

None of Our revelations do We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, but We substitute something better or similar: Knowest thou not that Allah Hath power over all things?" (2:106).

When We substitute one revelation for another,- and Allah knows best what He reveals (in stages),- they say, "Thou art but a forger": but most of them understand not," (16:101).

Was Pharaoh killed or not killed by drowning?
"We took the Children of Israel across the sea: Pharaoh and his hosts followed them in insolence and spite. At length, when overwhelmed with the flood, he said: "I believe that there is no god except Him Whom the Children of Israel believe in: I am of those who submit (to Allah in Islam). (It was said to him): "Ah now!- But a little while before, wast thou in rebellion!- and thou didst mischief (and violence)! This day shall We save thee in the body, that thou mayest be a sign to those who come after thee! but verily, many among mankind are heedless of Our Signs!" (10:90-92).

Moses said, "Thou knowest well that these things have been sent down by none but the Lord of the heavens and the earth as eye-opening evidence: and I consider thee indeed, O Pharaoh, to be one doomed to destruction!" So he resolved to remove them from the face of the earth: but We did drown him and all who were with him," (17:102-103).

Is wine consumption good or bad?
O ye who believe! Intoxicants and gambling, (dedication of) stones, and (divination by) arrows, are an abomination,- of Satan's handwork: eschew such (abomination), that ye may prosper," (5:90).

(Here is) a Parable of the Garden which the righteous are promised: in it are rivers of water incorruptible; rivers of milk of which the taste never changes; rivers of wine, a joy to those who drink; and rivers of honey pure and clear. In it there are for them all kinds of fruits; and Grace from their Lord. (Can those in such Bliss) be compared to such as shall dwell for ever in the Fire, and be given, to drink, boiling water, so that it cuts up their bowels (to pieces)?" (47:15).

Truly the Righteous will be in Bliss: On Thrones (of Dignity) will they command a sight (of all things): Thou wilt recognize in their faces the beaming brightness of Bliss. Their thirst will be slaked with Pure Wine sealed," (83:22-25).

tidytim:

Please put your grey matter into good use.


You sound like an angry bloke with an axe to grind 

Judek2:

Seriously @Sweetnectar, you have succeded in proving nothing.

But let me ask you one of the simplest contradictions of the Koran.

Who is the mother of Jesus according to the Koran?

frosbel:

^^

That is not what the Quran says

The Quran called Mariam, the sister of Moses as Mary the mother of Jesus.

At length she brought (the babe) to her people, carrying him (in her arms), They said: "O Mary! Truly a strange thing has thou brought! "O sister of Aaron, thy father was not a man of evil, nor your mother a woman unchaste!"
-- Sura 19:27-28


And Mary, the daughter of `Imran, ,
-- Sura 66:12


Muhaha


Confusion galore

Don't forget our friendship pact and motto which is the BIBLE IS CORRUPT !!!

LagosShia:

he asked me for her name.not whose sister she was.whether she was Aron's or the Pope's sister is not the issue.he asked for her name.

vedaxcool:



"[size=28pt]It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.[/size]" (Matthew 19:24)

If you believe this verse to be true then we all have to Laugh won't we?

davidylan:

how dishonest.

davidylan:

Games muslims play - when you cant answer a question:
a. change the subject
b. accuse christianity of being just as bad
c. NEVER EVER answer the question, it makes islam look even worse

vedaxcool:

[font=Times Roman][size=18pt]I[color=#000099] think Christians should put their house in order before pointing fingers:

Jesus was reported to have threatened " for those my enemies who do not want me to reign over them bring them here and slay them

some-girl:

Have you read the entire parable?

vedaxcool:

And By the way are you Christians all poor because Jesus said a rich man can never make it to heaven:

lol!  

vedaxcool:

yap! He even ordered hs disciples to sell their clothes and buy swords.

some-girl:

If you have, I'm sure you know exactly what you're doing using that verse out of context.
It's a free world at the end of the day, have fun.

goggs:

just search for LagoShia on Nairaland and you will see that he hardly stays on one thread, regurgitates his claims even if they are answered, changes topics when cornered, insults people even when he claims he loves Christians, picks verses in isolation and presents them

I think he is not interested in a debate. He wants to ridicule.

I am compiling questions on the Prophet Mohammed (saw). i hope LagoShia will answer and not insult me or worse dodge the questions.

LagosShia:

you are mistaking me for your brother "frosbel" or a christian.when your beliefs are hammered flat,you start insulting the Prophet (sa) and calling names.bring your questions up.they will be answered and then you'd get hammered as usual and christianity's falsehood would be expose.

for God's sake this is the 21st century and people still identify themselves with the falsehood of christianity.the devil is wicked!

goggs:

You are one very BIG LAIR! In fact it takes a lot patience to be in the same thread with you.

I never insult religious figures whether Buddha, Muhammed or Confucius! That's not my style.

You call people fo.ols, b*tches, cockroaches etc and you call Jesus names (for example just go through YOUR post on THIS page)

I have a feeling you are not in good health. You forget things you post, can't comprehend, call people names, repost allegations that have been answered before, accuse people for the very thing you do, pretend you debate but are more of a ridicule.

You need to check yourself. *shakes head* 

PS I expect more insults coming 

LagosShia:

i am in good health and i thank God for that.

i know if i die,christians will rejoice and see that as a sign as they did when Ahmad Deedat died at an old age of 78.

frosbel:


Deedat though a Liar, was also an intellectual sort of , at least there was some logic to his argument.

But for you to think you are in the same league with Deedat is just plain hilarious.

You are only fit for a comedy show, honestly.

When you do eventually leave Nairaland we will indeed miss your jokes, comedies,and chaotic illogical arguments etc .

Please stay , do not go, keep disgracing your religion here


Can you give some of examples of the lies told by Deedat?

LagosShia:

i do not call anyone names.i only say the truth.i even use the bible to justify what i say and that hurts so much!!!

i am in good health and i thank God for that.

i know if i die,c[b]hristian missionaries on nairaland will rejoice[/b] and see that as a sign as their counterparts around the world did when Ahmad Deedat died at an old age of 87.

LagosShia:

And please next time,[size=18pt]try to be more original and post what you have read or observed by yourself.dont copy/paste and expect others to refute your copy/paste work[/size].