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Re: Abia Lawmaker Faces Court Today Over Assault On Abuja Bolt Driver by ruffhandu: 7:47pm On Oct 30
Armaggedon:
They will not get anything out of the case. The so called bolt driver was already recording him before the assault began. Who records a man by pointing a phone to his face inside his own compound without permission?

Of course there is also a provocation angle to it.
Barrister, if you pay attention to the details therein, you will realise that the victim started recording after the man has started his assault. And, the man never mentioned that his anger was because he was being recorded, rather he asked the man to record him. Go back and watch the 'vido'
Re: Abia Lawmaker Faces Court Today Over Assault On Abuja Bolt Driver by LucemFerre: 7:50pm On Oct 30
Armaggedon:
They will not get anything out of the case. The so called bolt driver was already recording him before the assault began. Who records a man by pointing a phone to his face inside his own compound without permission?

Ofcourse there is also a provocation angle to it.

And you go school o… chai
Product of expo
Re: Abia Lawmaker Faces Court Today Over Assault On Abuja Bolt Driver by forexprophet(m): 7:58pm On Oct 30
They should deal with him. Ibos too dey get pride. I wished it's Hausa guy he touched, he for dey smell pepper by now. Arrogant unripe human being.


FreeStuffsNG:
Pride and anger can ruin in a second what you have labored for in years. Smh.

I understand the gravity of his mistake but let us please temper justice with mercy since he has apologized and shown remorse. He is a relatively young guy and will learn a serous lesson from this his misadventure and misbehavior.

I pray that his victim(s) will find it in their hearts to forgive him. Sincerely, it's a very difficult place to be when you have ever experienced the humiliation and injustice similar to what that Bolt guy suffered in his hands and the mere thought that others may have previously suffered same or even worse form of injustice from him but got no justice.

I hope many others have learnt from how pride and arrogance brought this young man down and will not boast about in their wisdom, might and riches.

Re: Abia Lawmaker Faces Court Today Over Assault On Abuja Bolt Driver by BondRiv: 8:03pm On Oct 30
ALTERNATEID:
Court case over what? No need politicizing this abeg. The guy is a human being like the rest of us and he has apologized. The bolt driver should sit down with the lawmaker and resolve the matter like men. No need allowing attention seeking activist like Deji Adeyanju to start using the case to seek public relevance.

You must be joking.

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Re: Abia Lawmaker Faces Court Today Over Assault On Abuja Bolt Driver by news247: 8:49pm On Oct 30
Meat

Flame333:
See what anger and pride did to mere mortal..

Anytime the issue of biafra comes to mind, you can now imagine what people will be thinking about the igbos...

How I wish he could learn from the likes of ifeanyi Uba of blessed memory that this life is nothing
Re: Abia Lawmaker Faces Court Today Over Assault On Abuja Bolt Driver by Flame333: 8:55pm On Oct 30
news247:
Meat


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Re: Abia Lawmaker Faces Court Today Over Assault On Abuja Bolt Driver by talk2odim: 9:09pm On Oct 30
Armaggedon:
your argument is trash. Recording someone in his house is illegal and being allowed to walk away with such recording proves the reps member is not troublesome. It doesn't work that way. In law, it's not just about what happened but the cause. The bolt driver might end up getting into more trouble.

You really don't understand how the law works. There would have been a slight controversy if the law maker was unaware of the recording and could actually attack it as evidence, but he goofed when he not only acknowledged the recording but dared the victim to do it and nothing would happen.

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Re: Abia Lawmaker Faces Court Today Over Assault On Abuja Bolt Driver by Armaggedon: 9:22pm On Oct 30
talk2odim:


You really don't understand how the law works. There would have been a slight controversy if the law maker was unaware of the recording and could actually attack it as evidence, but he goofed when he not only acknowledged the recording but dared the victim to do it and nothing would happen.
you lie bro. Nothing warranted the recording the time he did. He was just abusing him verbally which is very uncharitable but also what everyman will do IN HIS HOUSE if he feels his guest is rude. Taking record of him at that point and making commentary in a relaxed voice at that point does not strike to me as a man who doesn't intended to provoke more actions. No one is exonerating the lawmakers pugnacious behaviour but the cap man isn't innocent either.

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Re: Abia Lawmaker Faces Court Today Over Assault On Abuja Bolt Driver by talk2odim: 10:27pm On Oct 30
Armaggedon:
you lie bro. Nothing warranted the recording the time he did. He was just abusing him verbally which is very uncharitable but also what everyman will do IN HIS HOUSE if he feels his guest is rude. Taking record of him at that point and making commentary in a relaxed voice at that point does not strike to me as a man who doesn't intended to provoke more actions. No one is exonerating the lawmakers pugnacious behaviour but the cap man isn't innocent either.


It is good to argue but it is better to argue what you are well versed on..

Kindly go back to my initial comment to be sure you even understood what I was talking about! Recording someone indiscriminately is a violation of their fundamental human rights.

The legal framework around video recording without consent in Nigeria is primarily governed by the Cybercrimes Act of 2015 and various provisions in the Nigerian Constitution and state laws.

When a person records a video of another in a public space and shares it, the video creator violates the other person’s right to privacy as protected by the Constitution.

Howbeit, there are exceptions which include- Personal Safety i.e recording may be justified if it is necessary to protect oneself or others from imminent harm or illegal activities, such as threats of violence or extortion.

Now to the crux if the matter as I had outlined earlier which you obviously failed to comprehend, bothers on the admissibility of the recording as evidence. It has nothing to do with whether there was provocation or not ( and even if there was provocation, the law maker, in law, resulted to "self help" which has legal implications!). So on the contrary, you are very wrong, the bolt driver can reliably claim he did the recording because he had reasons to suspect threats to his safety and existence, and the Lawmaker did a very good job at establishing the drivers fears!

This is a public forum and people get educated and learn both consciously and subconsciously so do not assert knowledge you are not grounded on. While you are entitled to your opinions, you are not entitled to your facts!

And before you respond, which I believe you would in a bid to win an arguement rather than learn from it, I would advice you read a bit on;
1. The cybercrimes act of 2015
2. The evidence act of 2011 and
3. The constitutional right to privacy and its exceptions.

Cheers
Re: Abia Lawmaker Faces Court Today Over Assault On Abuja Bolt Driver by talk2odim: 10:40pm On Oct 30
Give men power and watch their true nature reveal itself
Re: Abia Lawmaker Faces Court Today Over Assault On Abuja Bolt Driver by talk2odim: 10:43pm On Oct 30
FreeStuffsNG:
Pride and anger can ruin in a second what you have labored for in years. Smh.

I understand the gravity of his mistake but let us please temper justice with mercy since he has apologized and shown remorse. He is a relatively young guy and will learn a serous lesson from this his misadventure and misbehavior.

I pray that his victim(s) will find it in their hearts to forgive him. Sincerely, it's a very difficult place to be when you have ever experienced the humiliation and injustice similar to what that Bolt guy suffered in his hands and the mere thought that others may have previously suffered same or even worse form of injustice from him but got no justice.

I hope many others have learnt from how pride and arrogance brought this young man down and will not boast about in their wisdom, might and riches.


Even though we should pursue peace and forgiveness with all men, it is thinking such as this that has contributed to where we currently find ourselves as a nation.

People do not exercise caution bacause they believe there are no consequences or they can escape the consequences. When consequences are dealt out, people act with decorum. Would he have dared this if he was in a developed country like the ones we are dreaming of striving to become? The "do you know who I am" denigrating syndrome that has befallen many of the citizenry.
Re: Abia Lawmaker Faces Court Today Over Assault On Abuja Bolt Driver by talk2odim: 10:50pm On Oct 30
This should actually be a litmus test for those that often times feel they are above the law and can get away with anything.
Re: Abia Lawmaker Faces Court Today Over Assault On Abuja Bolt Driver by Cmanforall: 10:54pm On Oct 30
Armaggedon:
your argument is trash. Recording someone in his house is illegal and being allowed to walk away with such recording proves the reps member is not troublesome. It doesn't work that way. In law, it's not just about what happened but the cause. The bolt driver might end up getting into more trouble.
Shut up!
Paid agent.

Did you not watch the video, when your Dishonorable boss told him yo record him. That he can even call the IG of Police?

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Re: Abia Lawmaker Faces Court Today Over Assault On Abuja Bolt Driver by AntiZikist: 11:07pm On Oct 30
talk2odim:


It is good to argue but it is better to argue what you are well versed on.

Kindly go back to my initial comment to be sure you even understood what I was talking about! Recording someone indiscriminately is a violation of their fundamental human rights.

The legal framework around video recording without consent in Nigeria is primarily governed by the Cybercrimes Act of 2015 and various provisions in the Nigerian Constitution and state laws.

When a person records a video of another in a public space and shares it, the video creator violates the other person’s right to privacy as protected by the Constitution.

Howbeit, there are exceptions which include- Personal Safety i.e recording may be justified if it is necessary to protect oneself or others from imminent harm or illegal activities, such as threats of violence or extortion.

Now to the crux if the matter as I had outlined earlier which you obviously failed to comprehend, bothers on the admissibility of the recording as evidence. It has nothing to do with whether there was provocation or not ( and even if there was provocation, the law maker, in law, resulted to "self help" which has legal implications!). So on the contrary, you are very wrong, the bolt driver can reliably claim he did the recording because he had reasons to suspect threats to his safety and existence, and the Lawmaker did a very good job at establishing the drivers fears!

This is a public forum and people get educated and learn both consciously and subconsciously so do not assert knowledge you are not grounded on. While you are entitled to your opinions, you are not entitled to your facts!

And before you respond, which I believe you would in a bid to win an arguement rather than learn from it, I would advice you read a bit on;
1. The cybercrimes act of 2015
2. The evidence act of 2011 and
3. The constitutional right to privacy and its exceptions.

Cheers


Charge n bail lawyer.

Cybercrime act does not apply here because the complainant in this case made the idiot aware he was being recorded and stated why he was recording the idiot .

The idiot did not object to being recorded and gave his explicit approval of the recording.

The complainant made the recording as evidence to insulate himself of any wrong doing as the complainant's job performance and rating would have been negatively affected by a bad review. Secondly , the complainant felt the need to record the video fearing for his own personal safety and to provide evidential proof of no wrong doing on his part and to present video evidence of the idiot acting as an idiot that he is.

The said video is why the complainant is able to secure his release from police detention after being falsely accused and arrested by the idiot. Without that video evidence, the complainant will most likely still be in police detention or at worse charged to court on trumped up allegations initiated by the idiot. That same video evidence was what made the Police IG to swing into action to ensure the victim in this case gets justice - a very rare occurrence in Nigeria .

The idiot is a narcistic pompous brat who thought he can bully just about anybody that he feels is lower than him.

So save your bullshit argument. It's such foolish legal advise that is now seeing the idiot now being arraigned in court. I pray you are part of his legal team so that your client can get convicted for assault, death threats and deliberately filing a false allegation .
Re: Abia Lawmaker Faces Court Today Over Assault On Abuja Bolt Driver by FreeStuffsNG: 11:27pm On Oct 30
talk2odim:


Even though we should pursue peace and forgiveness with all men, it is thinking such as this that has contributed to where we currently find ourselves as a nation.

People do not exercise caution bacause they believe there are no consequences or they can escape the consequences. When consequences are dealt out, people act with decorum. Would he have dared this if he was in a developed country like the ones we are dreaming of striving to become? The "do you know who I am" denigrating syndrome that has befallen many of the citizenry.


@ bolded is from the place of inferiority complex many of you embrace because of low self esteem.

Below is what happened just few days ago in England.

https://www.independent.co.uk/tv/news/labour-mp-mike-amesbury-punch-video-cheshire-b2636907.html


Same England you think their citizens are better and developed than you o. Smh.

Many of you need to get to that place that you will know that if someone has a white skin doesn't mean he or she is better than you.

That's someone you believe is better than you beating a member of his constituent in the full public glare o.
Re: Abia Lawmaker Faces Court Today Over Assault On Abuja Bolt Driver by talk2odim: 11:41pm On Oct 30
AntiZikist:



Charge n bail lawyer.

Cybercrime act does not apply here because the complainant in this case made the idiot aware he was being recorded and stated why he was recording the idiot .

The idiot did not object to being recorded and gave his explicit approval of the recording.

The complainant made the recording as evidence to insulate himself of any wrong doing as the complainant's job performance and rating would have been negatively affected by a bad review. Secondly , the complainant felt the need to record the video fearing for his own personal safety and to provide evidential proof of no wrong doing on his part and to present video evidence of the idiot acting as an idiot that he is.

The said video is why the complainant is able to secure his release from police detention after being falsely accused and arrested by the idiot. Without that video evidence, the complainant will most likely still be in police detention or at worse charged to court on trumped up allegations initiated by the idiot. That same video evidence was what made the Police IG to swing into action to ensure the victim in this case gets justice - a very rare occurrence in Nigeria .

The idiot is a narcistic pompous brat who thought he can bully just about anybody that he feels is lower than him.

So save your bullshit argument. It's such foolish legal advise that is now seeing the idiot now being arraigned in court. I pray you are part of his legal team so that your client can get convicted for assault, death threats and deliberately filing a false allegation .


Don't be an overzealous dolt trying to appear intelligent by half!

Are you sure you read the whole comment or you just jumped to a baseless uninformed conclusion! Cos it seems you were just so eager respond and ended up displaying some sort of "factory default stupidity."
You repeated what I posited yet contradicting the same position. After blabbling, you now say elxactly what I emphasized on!

Just for the benefit of doubt that you lack comprehension skills, my point in simply terms and please this time read slowly, is that the recording evidence the bolt driver circulated is valid and tenable if prosecution is pursued because it meets the exceptions of the cyber crime act and the right to privacy as guaranteed by the constitution; and that the lawmaker cannot punch a hole in the evidence under the veil of having being unlawfully recorded because he actually proved he was aware he was being recorded and even dared the driver nothing will happen.

So your point axactly is I'm amused at the confidence at which you showed your foolishness. Go back and read, and this time slowly to the end.

Charge and bail ignoramus.....read they will not read and then come and be making a fool of themselves in public!
Re: Abia Lawmaker Faces Court Today Over Assault On Abuja Bolt Driver by talk2odim: 12:16am On Oct 31
FreeStuffsNG:

@ bolded is from the place of inferiority complex many of you embrace because of low self esteem.

Below is what happened just few days ago in England.

https://www.independent.co.uk/tv/news/labour-mp-mike-amesbury-punch-video-cheshire-b2636907.html


Same England you think their citizens are better and developed than you o. Smh.

Many of you need to get to that place that you will know that if someone has a white skin doesn't mean he or she is better than you.

That's someone you believe is better than you beating a member of his constituent in the full public glare o.

Woah! And you deduced all that from my comment. Lol. It is either you are overly assumptious or have an unresolved underlying personal issues with the Western populace?Maybe. Cos I fail to understand how you miraculously cooked that up when it was not on the menu. #sighs#
Well, I am not responsible for how you chose to interpret my comment.
As much as you tried to manipulate what i said, you did a good job of attempting to mask the salient points posited. I wonder what actually touched a soft spot that brought about inferiority complex, white skin et al.... I was very intentional when I chose to say "a developed country" and not mention England or the US? It was because I anticipated this exact line of misconstrued reaction.

Anyways, you clearly failed to grasp my point which is the emphasis on there being a need for CONSEQUENCES!!! And since you were so magnanimous to give an example, I will return the favour by referencing your example:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/articles/c6244gk9d4po.amp

Yes it happened as you so much wanted to prove, but I find it suspiciouly convenient that you were silent on the fact that there were consequences and it didn't take forever to manifest. So I say it again "People do not exercise caution bacause they believe there are no consequences or they can escape the consequences. When consequences are dealt out, people act with decorum"

Cheers
Re: Abia Lawmaker Faces Court Today Over Assault On Abuja Bolt Driver by Praktikals1000: 1:59am On Oct 31
alizma:

The assault precede the recording, from what the driver said which to me, make sense,he said he started recording when he was no longer sure of his safety because as at that time the man had started threatening him.
You have plenty time o.
Re: Abia Lawmaker Faces Court Today Over Assault On Abuja Bolt Driver by frozen70(f): 7:02am On Oct 31
ppogba:


He said it on the floor that he has reached an agreement with the driver.

I love that, so he has to disgrace himself publicly to help the poor guy. Na the guy luck sha
Re: Abia Lawmaker Faces Court Today Over Assault On Abuja Bolt Driver by power44t: 8:42am On Oct 31
Armaggedon:
your argument is trash. Recording someone in his house is illegal and being allowed to walk away with such recording proves the reps member is not troublesome. It doesn't work that way. In law, it's not just about what happened but the cause. The bolt driver might end up getting into more trouble.
You must be one sick emotional demented fellow. monkey in human skin. You might be the next to fall victiom of assult.

ALTERNATEID:
Court case over what? No need politicizing this abeg. The guy is a human being like the rest of us and he has apologized. The bolt driver should sit down with the lawmaker and resolve the matter like men. No need allowing attention seeking activist like Deji Adeyanju to start using the case to seek public relevance.
This shows that your likes deserve to share zoo with animals you are not a sane human being.
Re: Abia Lawmaker Faces Court Today Over Assault On Abuja Bolt Driver by Electorate: 11:56am On Oct 31
FreeStuffsNG:
Pride and anger can ruin in a second what you have labored for in years. Smh.

I understand the gravity of his mistake but let us please temper justice with mercy since he has apologized and shown remorse. He is a relatively young guy and will learn a serous lesson from this his misadventure and misbehavior.

I pray that his victim(s) will find it in their hearts to forgive him. Sincerely, it's a very difficult place to be when you have ever experienced the humiliation and injustice similar to what that Bolt guy suffered in his hands and the mere thought that others may have previously suffered same or even worse form of injustice from him but got no justice.

I hope many others have learnt from how pride and arrogance brought this young man down and will not boast about in their wisdom, might and riches.


If someone comes inside your house and breaks your tv and tells you sorry will you let him go? If someone bash your car and tells you sorry will you let him go? If your girlfriend cheats with your close friend and tells you sorry will you still keep her?

See ehn, If assaults melted by leaders who see the masses as cockroaches isn't checked it will continue and get worse. There has to be consequences for every action even after apologizing. It is necessary as it will serve as a deterrent to others.

He broke the law, he should face the consequences, let the court decide.

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