nateevs:

Oh really? You think I will name Ramires and Meireles as players Chelsea should get.
Seriously? Abeg cancel those two names from your list.

And yes the other 6 players are top players I will admire in any other team.
However, last time I checked, you cannot win the league with 6 players.
Infact in this age, you need an able squad of 25 to stay in the top four.
We spent years splashing on the first team. You cannot expect your top players to be in super year-in year-out.
Therefore you need to have players who can step up and do a job.

We have a game in 48 hrs and we cannot afford to make 4 subs.
If you think we can, name them players you will play.

You cannot be sucked up in what you have to say that you forget what people's views on a topic are.
I have told you time and again that so far Torres has never been a failure. What's the point of your statement?
On the contrary you are blaming AVB for Torres woes claming another Manager will get the best out of him.
I point out your errors. You should accept it and take that statement back instead trying to deflect.

If you are not into stats, then why claim AVB already has more losses at home than CA?
Would that assertion not depend on stats?

Diva are you not the same person who in 2009 was calling for the end to the CA experiment?
How come 2 years later you are using the same CA as a yard-stick for another manager's performance?
These were the same pattern of results we were getting until ManU and Arsenal slumped and we picked up some form.

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A little history should give you a tap in the backside.
Read how you lot had no single belief in the CA team. Now you are are judging AVB with the same CA you failed to support.
WE are back to the same point again. . It's till the manager eh?

I hear you.

Another dude will come in.
You'll get a honeymoon period with the new guy.
We'll finish just above Arsenal, lose in the CL, win the FA Cup and congratulate ourselves.
It was nice we sacked AVB timely. Then Roman will buy Caroll and Arshavin for £60m a piece.
Give Lamps, Drogba, Ferreira and Malouda 2 more years' contract
We are off to a bright start. We beat WestBrom 6-0, Arsenal 2-0 Drogba scores. We lead the PL with 6 pts after 6 games.

November comes first draw. Then another and another. Then a loss. Then pressure. The newspaper stories.
Suddenly we are 4th. Gosh we are going to finish outside the top 4.
Then Diva will come again "It's not the players. . it's the useless manager"

And we'll begin the cycle all over again.

That you won't include them doesn't make them bad players.
Ramires is the most improved Chelsea player this season.
It's only on NL you guys crucify him, he is praised in other Chelsea forums worldwide.

When you don't make use of players they become rusty.
Kalou, Malouda, Josh, Lukaku, Bertrand are not bad players.

Offer them more play time and you will bring out the best in them.
Buying more players would not solve our problem. Our manager should learn to manage properly.

BlueDiva:

LOL. . .just saw this and it's funny.

What is the guarantee that after finishing 5th or 6th for 3 seasons and playing in the Europa for 3 seasons, (we would have completed the transition then, right?) we will suddenly bounce back and become league winners?

Utd went through a transition, in fact they are always in transition yet they manage to do well.
Your manager wants transition yet 5 youngsters were loaned out at the summer. Yet a talent like Josh is never allowed to play.

Transition doesn't mean you should drag your team downwards.

Gary Cahills move to Chelsea has stalled as John Terry­ cannot agree terms with his wife

Do we have a 30 goal striker in the team? United rest Rooney and Hernandez. Berbatov comes in with 5 goals in 3 games. See when Dzeko was scoring for fun. He sits on the bench now and Aguero and Balotteli just score.

Do we have a pure wingers that can stretch play like Nani? Young? Johnson? Players who terrify defenders like Bellamy, Suarez? Take out Sturridge and that's it. Take Mata out and zilch for creativity and you want to contend. Must Mata play every game?

If we are serious about contending, we have to change a lot and it needs to begin from tomorrow.

BlueDiva:

So what do we do? Shell out more money innit?
We have spent too much already. Time to start looking inwards.

nateevs:

No! We do not need to shell out loads. We just need to be intelligent in our transfer strategy.
If we had a good plan of player transfer, we would have bought better players.

Instead of targeting these £5m, £10m transfers - ala Sturridge, Romeu - and getting one good player in every 2, we spend £18m a piece on Zhirkov and Ramires.

dayokanu:

For ROI I would believe both Zhirkov and Ramires especially have performed better than Torres

nateevs:

I am sorry but United don't leave transition until too late.
Like you said, "They are always in transition" . .

So if United are always in transition and you have not been in transitioned for 8 years, why in this world do you then expect United-like performances? Why would you expect United-like performances when you hire the 7th manager in 8 years? You think transition in itself exisit in isolation? It's a fusion of all things good.

You have to lay a foundation to expect United-like performances. You cannot buy it off a store-shelf, you've got to earn.

chamotex:

I take it you meant "exist" right?

nateevs:

Child! You could not wait to get one back could you?
This more of a typo than yours.  

chamotex:

I think you left out "is" here too

Haha! You are the child here
Actually I've seen you make a lot of 'honest' mistakes/typos before . . . but that's just what they are and I just let it slide since I get what you mean.
I didn't have to point it out  . . . as the bigger man.

chamotex:

I think you left out "is" here too

Haha! You are the child here
Actually I've seen you make a lot of 'honest' mistakes/typos before . . . but that's just what they are and I just let it slide since I get what you mean.
I didn't have to point it out  . . . as the bigger man.

lalaboi:

How many times did you proof read this? Ontop wetin?. . oga go siddon

nateevs:

Haba! I have to explain a joke to you? Wetin? 
Now you've done it twice and you claiming bigger man. . Shiorrr!

BlueDiva:

Nateevs, if we're to bring in 3 players, whom would you choose?

chamotex:

Ode ni e U no get sense
Me and nateevs just dey play ni jor, Na just shere shere
Ma fi ikanra Chelsea mun mi mehn.

It's all jokes/fun jare . . . God go make you too bigger
Happy New Year

nateevs:

3 players for me. I will not think twice. It will be 2 wingers and once creative CM.
I will make sure one of the wingers is able to play in the middle when needed.

Wingers for me right now will be Eden Hazard and one of David Hoillet, Lucas Ocampos or Lucas Moura.
CM for me will be Mario Goetze.

nateevs:

3 players for me. I will not think twice. It will be 2 wingers and once creative CM.
I will make sure one of the wingers is able to play in the middle when needed.

Wingers for me right now will be Eden Hazard and one of David Hoillet, Lucas Ocampos or Lucas Moura.
CM for me will be Mario Goetze.

BlueDiva:

Ok, nice idea.
Could you show how you will fit them in our starting line up?

It's high time we start sending suggestions to AVB.

Jomo Gbomo:

We should just allow AVB see out the season to complete the transition. No turning back now.  We know for sure that if AVB play the oldies, we would make 3rd place easily (and I include Alex and Anelka in this). That said, once a process is in place, we might as well complete it and cross fingers we can finish fourth this season.

A lot of this still comes back to the decision to allocate a large percentage of the club's resources to signing Torres this time last year. Those wages and transfer fees woulda provided for three good players, plus saved a lot of political headache and squad unbalance and demoralisation. I didnt watch the game, but I'm curious as to why we once again went back to the tried and failed DD/Torres partnership. Did Studge get injured? I woulda thought that Studge is more suited to playing in 4-4-2 than any of these two. FFS, if DD could not make a 4-4-2 work with the unselfish Anelka, whats the point persisting with trying to shoehorn DD and Torres into the same formation?

nateevs:


Ivanovic ---Luiz---Terry--Cole
               
                  Romeu
          Mario            Mata
 
     Hazard   DS/RL  LO/LM/DH

then let him do away with the oldies. they are the ones ruining chelsea with their inconsistent performances for the team.
a swallow does not make a summer. can we count on these tired legs to be consistent throughout the course of a season?
the answer is no!

BlueDiva:

Still playing Mata wide?
Where is Mario in the line up? Thought you want a CM?