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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Pride Of London by coogar: 11:51pm On Apr 18, 2012
dayokanu:

Player revolts, massive wages are problems with every Big football club and the owner isnt complaining about it yet.

if he needs a financial planner he would Approach Okonjo iweala or Goldman Sachs not Andre Villas Boas.

Playing in only one way? When did that become a problem? barcelona only play in one way and they are the number 1 club in Europe

and that has been shown up tonight that you cannot play in one certain way and win the premier league.
teams like stoke, blackburn, bolton, etc wouldn't let you win the premier league if you play in one way like barca does all the time.
if barcelona were in the premier league. games like tonight would have forced guardiola's hands to alternate his tactics.
this is one of the reasons andy gray came up with the windy wet conditions at britannia stadium.

barca play one way in spain and win the league(no team in spain park the bus) - the teams they meet in europe are top teams who wouldn't play
like the stoke, bolton of this world to win so barca often get away with their style in europe till they meet
chelsea or inter. villas-boas came to chelsea and tried to use what worked for him at porto fc but the mafia in
chelsea's dressing room didn't let him. they are now back to looping hopeful long balls to drogba - back to 2005.

so i compared villas' boas first 6 [/b]league games to ancelotti's [b]last 6 games(dayokanu's alpha-performance testing).
ancelotti copped 10 points out of 18, villas-boas copped 13 points out of 18. in your own words, ancelotti was reckless economically
and villas-boas revived the dying economy. in other words, villas-boas is a better manager than the great carlo ancelotti?

dayokanu - you should donate your brain-cells to a colony of red-head lizards. grin cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Pride Of London by dayokanu(m): 11:54pm On Apr 18, 2012
coogar:

and that has been shown up tonight that you cannot play in one certain way and win the premier league.
teams like stoke, blackburn, bolton, etc wouldn't let you win the premier league if you play in one way like barca does all the time.
if barcelona were in the premier league. games like tonight would have forced guardiola's hands to alternate his tactics.
this is one of the reasons andy gray came up with the windy wet conditions at britannia stadium.

barca play one way in spain and win the league(no team in spain park the bus) - the teams they meet in europe are top teams who wouldn't play
like the stoke, bolton of this world to win so barca often get away with their style in europe till they meet
chelsea or inter. villas-boas came to chelsea and tried to use what worked for him at porto fc but the mafia in
chelsea's dressing room didn't let him. they are now back to looping hopeful long balls to drogba - back to 2005.

We are back to this shiit about Barcelona wont beat Stoke again? When an inferior version of Barcelona called valencia did them home and away
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Pride Of London by afrodoc(m): 11:57pm On Apr 18, 2012
2 different seasons,no? new players to improve the squad,no? old players refreshed at d start of d new season,no?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Pride Of London by dayokanu(m): 12:00am On Apr 19, 2012
coogar:

so i compared villas' boas first 6 [/b]league games to ancelotti's [b]last 6 games(dayokanu's alpha-performance testing).
ancelotti copped 10 points out of 18, villas-boas copped 13 points out of 18. in your own words, ancelotti was reckless economically
and villas-boas revived the dying economy. in other words, villas-boas is a better manager than the great carlo ancelotti?

dayokanu - you should donate your brain-cells to a colony of red-head lizards. grin cheesy

AVB was able to buy new players did RDM buy new players?

AVB was starting a season fresh with everyteam on 0 points, RDM inherited a side that was failing hard in the league.

AVB and Carlo Ancelotti played 2 different seasons, AVB and RDM played the same season

Refining stupidity doesnt make much difference, Its still stupidity all the way
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Pride Of London by coogar: 12:02am On Apr 19, 2012
dayokanu:
We are back to this shiit about Barcelona wont beat Stoke again? When an inferior version of Barcelona called valencia did them home and way

that is the point. stoke did not play catenaccio with valencia.
they didnt even regard valencia as a big team - stoke treated them like they would
treat wolves or wigan or newcastle.

make a cursory glance @ stoke's results at the britannia stadium against the
traditional big teams in england this season and get back to me. the results form
a pattern. the pattern is not coincidence.

stoke 0-0 chelsea
stoke 1-0 liverpool
stoke 1-1 man utd
stoke 1-1 man city
stoke 2-1 tottenham

still waiting for arsenal's game there but you can be sure it would be pure gore
meanwhile teams like sunderland, west brom and qpr would go there and win games just like valencia did.
so because qpr murdered stoke there means arsenal would? cos valencia won there means barca/madrid would?
i have overestimated your football intelligence.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Pride Of London by dayokanu(m): 12:06am On Apr 19, 2012
coogar:

that is the point. stoke did not play catenaccio with valencia.
they didnt even regard valencia as a big team - stoke treated them like they would
treat wolves or wigan or newcastle.

make a cursory glance to stoke's results at the britannia stadium against the
traditional big teams in england this season and get back to me. the results form
a pattern. the pattern is not coincidence.

stoke 0-0 chelsea
stoke 1-0 liverpool
stoke 1-1 man utd
stoke 1-1 man city
stoke 2-1 tottenham

still waiting for arsenal's game there but you can be sure it would be pure gore
meanwhile teams like sunderland, west brom and qpr would go there and win games just like valencia did.

Oh So Stoke didnt play their game vs Valencia they played someone elses style vs Valencia?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Pride Of London by coogar: 12:10am On Apr 19, 2012
dayokanu:

AVB was able to buy new players did RDM buy new players?

no he did not.
he's forced to persist with the usual dross that failed ancelotti last season
terry, lampard, essien, malouda, bosingwa, etc. he did not buy new players.


AVB was starting a season fresh with everyteam on 0 points, RDM inherited a side that was failing hard in the league.

another heap of stupidity. we are calculating points gained in their first 6 games.
nothing to do with form or failing hard in the league. i am looking at the points.
what has failing hard in the league gotta do with this? di matteo was brought in to
stop the rot. has he?

if he has, how are chelsea 6th on the table? they should be heading
upwards not downwards. chelsea were tied on points with arsenal when villas-boas got sacked.
right now, they are 7 points below arsenal. use your brain cells, abeg!


AVB and Carlo Ancelotti played 2 different seasons, AVB and RDM played the same season

2 different seasons, same dross of players, same owner.
what has changed?


Refining stupidity doesnt make much difference, Its still stupidity all the way

glad you're talking about yourself for once!
your idiocy in megawatts would solve the electricity problems in all the 3rd world
countries littered on the face of the earth.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Pride Of London by afrodoc(m): 12:14am On Apr 19, 2012
LOL nairaland! like i said no victor no vanquished! aluta continua
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Pride Of London by dayokanu(m): 12:14am On Apr 19, 2012
Oh He did not buy new players? Where did Mata, cahill, Lukaku etc come from?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Pride Of London by coogar: 12:15am On Apr 19, 2012
dayokanu:

Oh So Stoke didnt play their game vs Valencia they played someone elses style vs Valencia?

stoke play in 2 ways. when they face the teams around them or teams they thought they can
match, they don't play ultra-defensive. they go about it the normal way and they try to play
some football.

however, when they are faced with the big names of football. the man utd, man city, chelsea, etc
stoke know they stand no chance at all. they deploy all forms of gamesmanship. every throw-in is
an attacking throw, every freekick sends their tallest players into the box, and they would kick
dust and sawdust out of the creative players in the opposition till those ones lose interest.

against valencia, i did not see one typical rory delap's throw.

dayokanu:
Oh He did not buy new players? Where did Mata, cahill, Lukaku etc come from?

how many matches did cahill play under villas-boas? grin grin grin
this gay is now scraping the barrel without shame.

lukaku? did he start any game for chelsea?
mata is the only regular player he got and mata has been chelsea's best player this season(overall).

even with that, that's about 2 players in a team of 11.
the dross still outnumber the quality. grin cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Pride Of London by afrodoc(m): 12:23am On Apr 19, 2012
well i think we can ascribe AVB having a better record in his 1st 6 matches than CA in his last 6 matches of last season to your much acclaimed NEW MANAGER EFFECT,cant we? and of course other things like early season freshness n enthusiasm by the chelsea players and d addition of a classy player like mata to d mix.no?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Pride Of London by Nobody: 6:39am On Apr 19, 2012
We were lucky last night.
1 shot on goal compared to Barca's 24 and we won.

I still think it will be asking for too much if we expect to qualify.
Anyways, kudos to the boys and a real man; RDM.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Pride Of London by edoyad(m): 7:53am On Apr 19, 2012
BlueDiva: We were lucky last night.
1 shot on goal compared to Barca's 24 and we won.

I still think it will be asking for too much if we expect to qualify.
Anyways, kudos to the boys and a real man; RDM.

Funny I've just read through almost 3 pages and this is what I find closest to the Truth
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Pride Of London by Nobody: 8:27am On Apr 19, 2012
coogar:

an indisputable fact!
if di matteo is a messiah, why are chelsea 6th on the table?
they should be 4th or even 3rd.

An idiotic comment.
Are other teams sleeping? Aren't Arsenal and N'castle in form too?

A man who has lost only 1 and drawn 1. A man who came in under pressure while the world was keenly watching and yet he managed to silence critics.
That man is a messiah, if this is all he ever achieves.

I bet if AVB was still in charge we would be out of the CL, the FA cup and struggling to be in the top ten.
Yet some people will justify woeful performance as a rebuilding process.

AVB was a mistake. A gamble that didn't pay off.
An experiment gone horribly wrong.

I hope to stop hearing stupid statements about how RDM reverted to what works.
If AVB wasn't a dummy, he too would have reverted to what works.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Pride Of London by Nobody: 11:12am On Apr 19, 2012
Just Love Snooping around 'em After the games! cheesy cheesy

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Pride Of London by coogar: 2:20pm On Apr 19, 2012
BlueDiva:
An idiotic comment.
Are other teams sleeping? Aren't Arsenal and N'castle in form too?

such a brainless rebuttal. so if other teams are not sleeping, the brilliance
of chelsea's messiah(di matteo) shouldn't outshine the likes of wenger and alan pardew?
make we hear word - di matteo is a decent manager and in the same level as villas-boas


A man who has lost only 1 and drawn 1. A man who came in under pressure while the world was keenly watching and yet he managed to silence critics.
That man is a messiah, if this is all he ever achieves.

villas-boas record also read the same in his first 6 league games. lost 1 drawn 1.
nateevs is very correct. the new manager syndrome is what's shacking chelsea players. they would
soon lose interest and go back to the dross they used to be.


I bet if AVB was still in charge we would be out of the CL, the FA cup and struggling to be in the top ten.
Yet some people will justify woeful performance as a rebuilding process.

oh shut it - the same villas boas got chelsea the qualification in the first place. if he's as bad
as you are making him, how did he qualify from the group? a feat fergie and mankini couldn't manage!


AVB was a mistake. A gamble that didn't pay off.
An experiment gone horribly wrong.

the right manager for a wrong club. yes, his acquisition was a mistake.
i was the first to point this out, mind you. you were waxing lyrical over him
when he arrived at chelsea.


chI hope to stop hearing stupid statements about how RDM reverted to what works.
If AVB wasn't a dummy, he too would have reverted to what works.

go and knit some more and leave the tactical facet of football to men who can process
statistics and information. di matteo has reverted to the old system to steady the ship.
that was the same old system that got mourinho and avram grant sacked.

your owner wants flair. villas-boas must have promised him that thus the signing of mata
and the aggressive pursuit of luka modric in the summer. villas boas tried to impose the
flair on chelsea but the mechanical players were not having it so they stopped playing for him.

villas boas then started benching the players without flair(lampard, drogba, kalou, mikel, etc) and
the media turned against him for benching their poster boy(lampard). they heaped unbelievable pressure
on his shoulders which later infected the team spirit. pressure was potent enough to convince the owner
chelsea weren't heading in the right direction and hence the sack.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Pride Of London by dayokanu(m): 2:38pm On Apr 19, 2012
coogar:
villas boas then started benching the players without flair(lampard, drogba, kalou, mikel, etc) and
the media turned against him for benching their poster boy(lampard). they heaped unbelievable pressure
on his shoulders which later infected the team spirit. pressure was potent enough to convince the owner
chelsea weren't heading in the right direction and hence the sack.

If the players without flair were the problem, How come the players with flair couldnt deliver the result for their beloved manager.

Pressure wasn't what convinced the owner to sack AVB, It was simply the horrible results

What was AVB last 12 games at Chelsea like?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Pride Of London by coogar: 2:59pm On Apr 19, 2012
dayokanu:

If the players without flair were the problem, How come the players with flair couldnt deliver the result for their beloved manager.

Pressure wasn't what convinced the owner to sack AVB, It was simply the horrible results

What was AVB last 12 games at Chelsea like?

the players with flair in chelsea are not up to 4.
4 players cannot make a team so the dross always outnumber the players with flair.
i have mata, torres, david luiz, ramirez(in form). i am struggling to name another.

the tactics villas-boas wanted did not suit the old generals @ chelsea.
it's a simple case of the wrong manager for a wrong club!
chelsea have too many mechanical players in their squad.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Pride Of London by dayokanu(m): 3:04pm On Apr 19, 2012
Does he need 11 flair players to achieve his goal?

Lampard for meireles, Torres for Drogba, Cahill for Terry, Romeu for Mikel and his lack of flair has been taken out

DOes he need Cech and Ivanovic to have flair as well?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Pride Of London by coogar: 3:15pm On Apr 19, 2012
dayokanu: Does he need 11 flair players to achieve his goal?

Lampard for meireles, Torres for Drogba, Cahill for Terry, Romeu for Mikel and his lack of flair has been taken out

DOes he need Cech and Ivanovic to have flair as well?

what about the service providers? malouda, sturridge, kalou?
meireles is not better than lampard. he's mechanical too. he was bought to make up
the numbers as essien's fitness was choppy as at august. no matter how you look at
it, the dross still outnumber the flair players. i believe that was the reason he
had mata playing as a wing forward. there was no quality coming from the flanks and
you need quality in the flanks to win games in the premier league.

that's the only advantage united have over the other teams despite their shabby
central midfield. if you can outflank your opponents, you have a huge advantage.
you think bayern were stupid getting ribery and robben? you think fergie is stupid
stockpiling nani, valencia, young, js park, giggs, etc? you think mourinho was stupid
playing joe cole, robben and damien duff in the early days? until chelsea sign quality
wingers(2 or 3), they would not dominate ever again like they did in the days of mourinho.

the only time they won something of note post-mourinho was in 09/10.
guess what? florent malouda(winger) played out of his skin that season.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Pride Of London by Ibime(m): 4:12pm On Apr 19, 2012
Why is anyone arguing with this mad man Coogar?

According to him Ramires has flair. What flair is that? Is he confusing pace for flair?

An eediot is ranting about flair this and that.

Instead of the eediot to say that Chelsea lack wingers, he is blaming Mikel, Lamps and Meireles for "lacking flair".

Do they not fulfil the same role that the likes of Carrick perform for Manure? The eediot is busy talking about Nani and Valencia. Is that Meireles, Lampard and Mikel's role?

Instead of hailing these boys for performing in the absence of proper wingers, the deranged eediot is busy blaming them for not being wingers.

Are they supposed to jump on the wing and start dribbling players?

Leave this bitter fool abeg.

He's pissed off that after claiming that Lamps was AVB's problem, AVB has been sacked, Lamps is now a signature player, and the team is playing with more flair than AVB ever managed, racking up 4 goals or more aginst the likes of Napoli and Spurs.


So because we decided to go all defensive against Barca, he is trying to paint our team as Stoke. The only time Manure beat Barca in 2008 was by parking the bus and playing eact same way we did yesterday. No one ever compared Manure to Stoke because of that. The eediot along with Nateevs is trying to paint yesterdays performance as "reverting to what works".

These same players - led by DD, Lamps - hold record for the most ever goals scored in Premier League history - 107 goals.

Instead of admitting that AVB was w@nk, these guys are saying they could not play AVB "flair game", yet I guess they were playing defensive game when they broke all attacking records with Ancelotti!!! grin

Reverting to what works means hitting Spurs for 5, hitting Napoli and Villa for 4 etc, not drawing 0-0 and losing 1-0 like AVB did with all his flair.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Pride Of London by coogar: 5:15pm On Apr 19, 2012
Ibime: Why is anyone arguing with this mad man Coogar?
According to him Ramires has flair. What flair is that? Is he confusing pace for flair?
An eediot is ranting about flair this and that.
Instead of the eediot to say that Chelsea lack wingers, he is blaming Mikel, Lamps and Meireles for "lacking flair".

you are a disgrace to the placenta that fed you in the womb.
what is this slowpoke talking about? i said chelsea lack players with flair and they also lack
proper wingers in the team. mata is no winger and sturridge is no winger.


Do they not fulfil the same role that the likes of Carrick perform for Manure? The eediot is busy talking about Nani and Valencia. Is that Meireles, Lampard and Mikel's role?

and the slowpoke keeps brainfarting - apart from carrick who is basically a defensive midfielder, who else in the
united midfield lacks flair? giggs? cleverley? scholes? anderson? are you such a simpleton? lampard, essien and meireles
are not defensive midfielders, how come they lack any sort of flair? why do they play like robots?


Instead of hailing these boys for performing in the absence of proper wingers, the deranged eediot is busy blaming them for not being wingers.
Are they supposed to jump on the wing and start dribbling players?
Leave this bitter fool abeg.

yes, finishing 6th in the premier league is performing. how the standards have dropped.
if my team finishes 6th, i would want the team disbanded. this was the same chelsea i once boasted can never
finish below 3rd in the premier league. the old guards have turned the team into dross and this buffoon called
ibime thinks they are performing. performing?


He's pissed off that after claiming that Lamps was AVB's problem, AVB has been sacked, Lamps is nowa signature player, and the team is playing with more flair than AVB ever managed, racking up 4 goals or more aginst the likes of Napoli and Spurs.

lmao @ lampard is a signature player. lampard? fat frank that most english fans don't want in euro 2012?
signature player indeed. paul scholes at 38 is better than lampard. racking up 4 goals against spurs
included dodgy goals, dodgy penalties, etc. why didn't you rack up 4 goals against man city?


So because we decided to go all defensive against Barca, he is trying to paint our team as Stoke. The only time Manure beat Barca in 2008 was by parking the bus and playing eact same way we did yesterday. No one ever compared Manure to Stoke because of that. The eediot along with Nateevs is trying to paint yesterdays performance as "reverting to what works".

who complained about the tactics you used to beat barcelona? that's the only way you can beat barca!
di matteo did not start using long ball method yesterday, he's been using it since he became manager even against mid-table
teams. even cesc fabregas pointed that out before the match yesterday that chelsea have gone back to what works.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4263037/Cesc-Fabregas-Chelsea-are-just-a-long-ball-team-now.html

you fat gorilla is just a disgrace to football punditry.


These same players - led by DD, Lamps - hold record for the most ever goals scored in Premier League history - 107 goals.

but they have only won one league title in the last 6 seasons - what an achievement.


Instead of admitting that AVB was w@nk, these guys are saying they could not play AVB "flair game", yet I guess they were playing defensive game when they broke all attacking records with Ancelotti!!! grin
Reverting to what works means hitting Spurs for 5, hitting Napoli and Villa for 4 etc, not drawing 0-0 and losing 1-0 like AVB did with all his flair.

villas-boas wasn't w@nk - your lazy idiotic midfielders are the wankstain - they lack the intelligence to
work the ball from the back in triangles and with pace to the forward players. your build up is slow and
it affected the results. they are more suited to throwing long balls to drogba from the chelsea half
and expecting him to boss his markers and score.

this was how cesc described your pathetic team....
“What happened with Villas-Boas was they played more from the back, trying to keep possession and take the initiative in the game.
But they’ve gone back to the type of Chelsea that was more successful a few years ago — playing on the counter, trying to hit the targetman, long balls, sitting back and using that No 9 as a reference point"


he made this statement before yesterday's match and what he said was what happened during the game.
so if you are doing a comparison of a manager who wanted flair and pure attacking football with the
"park the bus" by all possible means type of manager, then you should donate your brain cells to the colony of bees.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Pride Of London by Ibime(m): 5:45pm On Apr 19, 2012
coogar:
and the slowpoke keeps brainfarting - apart from carrick who is basically a defensive midfielder, who else in the
united midfield lacks flair? giggs? cleverley? scholes? anderson? are you such a simpleton? lampard, essien and meireles
are not defensive midfielders, how come they lack any sort of flair? why do they play like robots?

You are a joker. Giggs is a winger so lets not count him.

Who are the central midfielders here? How many of them can unlock a defence in the absence of width?

Scholes can pass all day long (something Mikel does every game), he can never unlock a packed defence without wingers and movement, nor can he dribble anyone.

Anderson? You're a mad man comparing one-footed nonentities like Anderson to likes of Lampard who has achieved more in his sleep.

Who is Cleverly? His flair, like Scholes cannot do anything without width and movement.

Same goes for Fletcher or whoever.


Swap Ronaldo, Valencia, Nani and Park for Malouda, Kalou and Sturridge and lets see if this bunch of midfielders at Manure would have achieved anything. Eediot.

You are a big fool. Central midfield is the position CARRYING Chelsea over the last 6 years, whilst central midfield has been the weakest position at Man Utd in the last six years, no wonder you were begging for Sneijder last summer.

Without Ronaldo from 2006 - 2008, and without Nani and Valencia since, the likes of Scholes, Anderson, Fletcher and such would be counting shekels not silver



coogar:
this was how cesc described your pathetic team....
“What happened with Villas-Boas was they played more from the back, trying to keep possession and take the initiative in the game.
But they’ve gone back to the type of Chelsea that was more successful a few years ago — playing on the counter, trying to hit the targetman, long balls, sitting back and using that No 9 as a reference point"

So this is what you base your nonsense on?

Under Ancelotti, Chelsea played more from the back, trying to keep possession and take the initiative in the game and scored 107 goals, winning games 8-0.

Just face the fact that AVB was crap.

AVB was trying to play from the back and keep possession and take initiative with Ramires in his midfield? Why not Nigel Reo-Coker?

Keeping possession has never been a problem for Chelsea.

AVB had no clue what he was doing, thats why he failed, not because the midfield cant pass the ball.

Chelsea possession stats is second best in the Premier League behind Man City, above Swansea and Arsenal, yet you are claiming they cant keep possession and dominate the game. The simple difference is that you can keep the ball forever but without good wingers, and with strikers like Shekpe keeper, other teams would park the bus and your possession would fizzle out.

You my friend are a fool.


Chelsea is winning, everyone is happy. You and Nateevs should go and find another pre-occupation and stop looking like fools with your endless useless arguments in the face of good results. . . no one cares about the nonsense you type on here. . .
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Pride Of London by coogar: 6:13pm On Apr 19, 2012
Ibime:
You are a joker. Giggs is a winger so lets not count him.

Who are the central midfielders here? How many of them can unlock a defence in the absence of width?

Scholes can pass all day long (something Mikel does every game), he can never unlock a packed defence without wingers and movement, nor can he dribble anyone.

Anderson? You're a mad man comparing one-footed nonentities like Anderson to likes of Lampard who has achieved more in his sleep.

Who is Cleverly? His flair, like Scholes cannot do anything without width and movement.

Same goes for Fletcher or whoever.



lmao@ scholes cannot unlock a defence. grin grin grin
how's that different to what xavi does in la liga?
ibime - must you spew nonsense to sound relevant?

and the idiot bleats again like a ram undergoing manual castration.
yet, it was this giggs-carrick that destroyed chelsea's midfield in last season's champions league q-finals.
are you suffering from amnesia? how many times in the last 3 seasons has giggs played as a winger?

scholes can pass all day long and he's got flair - no wonder xavi feels he's the best central midfielder he's
seen, anderson is miles better than lampard. he can beat a man, he's got pace and he's bossed the best midfielders
in the premier league .




Swap Valencia, Nani and Park for Malouda, Kalou and Sturridge and lets see if this bunch would achieve anything.
You are a big fool. Central midfield is the position CARRYING Chelsea over the last 6 years, whilst central midfield has been the weakest position at Man Utd in the last six years, no wonder you were begging for Sneijder last summer.


but united's central midfield would have won the league 5 times in the last 6 seasons by may!
central midfield is not carrying chelsea and chelsea's midfield is not better than united's. it's all in the head.
fans say that cos they always compare united's midfield now to the legendary beckham-keane-scholes-giggs quartet.
we often hear this united's team is the worst under fergie. we heard it last season, united won the league.
we have heard it this season and united sit on top with 5 points clear. if united's midfield is w@nk, what does
it say about chelsea's?




So this is what you base your nonsense on?

Under Ancelotti, Chelsea played more from the back, trying to keep possession and take the initiative in the game and scored 107 goals, winning games 8-0.
Just face the fact that AVB was crap.

scoring 107 goals means squat my friend. you won the league by a single point.
drogba's offside goal @ old trafford won you the league not trying to keep possession rubbish.
last season, ancelotti played from the back and kept possession but lost home/away to united in the
champions league - i can see how ancelotti's tactics panned out well, you fool.

in the crunch premier league game involving united-chelsea at old trafford, fergie's "weak team" triumphed again!


AVB was trying to play from the back and keep possession and take initiative with Ramires in his midfield? Why not Nigel Reo-Coker?
Keeping possession has never been a problem for Chelsea.
AVB had no clue what he was doing, thats why he failed, not because the midfield cant pass the ball.

the midfield can't pass the ball. they are too lazy to put in the hard work.
launching long balls to drogba is easier to do. let drogba sort the rest out.
villas-boas knew what he was doing - your players were just too lazy to execute his dreams.


Chelsea possession stats is second best in the Premier League behind Man City, above Swansea and Arsenal, yet you are claiming they cant keep possession and dominate the game. The simple difference is that you can keep the ball forever but without good wingers, and with strikers like Shekpe keeper, other teams would park the bus and your possession would fizzle out.
You my friend are a fool.

see hypocritical lying at it's best.
you want to bandy lies whilst arguing with an opta stat expert, you would fail miserably.

possession stats
59.6% - arsenal
58.0% - swansea
57.5% - man utd
57.5% - man city
55.7% - chelsea

pass success %
85.9% - man city
85.7% - swansea
85.4% - man utd
84.9% - chelsea
84.7% - arsenal.


Chelsea is winning, everyone is happy. You and Nateevs should go and find another pre-occupation and stop looking like fools with your endless useless arguments in the face of good results. . . no one cares about the nonsense you type on here. . .

winning is finishing 6th on the table.
maybe it hasn't dawned on you that chelsea won't play in the champions league next season.
the reason roman started this project in the first place is because of those european nights.
i think you have lost sight of what chelsea used to be! you're a disgrace!!!
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Pride Of London by Nobody: 6:14pm On Apr 19, 2012
Coogar should go and bother about how Man U will beat Everton and CIity.
Leave us with our squad, we are happy with them.

I don't know why u guys are crying more than the bereaved.
Our owner was at the stadium yesterday and was very satisfied just like us fans.

I would kill to know how AVB feels right now.
Seeing that the same old guards are carrying the team up high.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Pride Of London by Ibime(m): 6:18pm On Apr 19, 2012
You are an eediot comparing pass % success with % possession. If Wolves complete 20 passes out of 20, they would be top of your list.


I've had enough of eediots like Coogar and footie neophytes like Nateevs always putting the blame on the most productive players in our team (DD, Lamps and Ballack). I dont have time to go back and forth, so I simply ask people to vote on how many trophies each of the following teams would have won in the last 6 years.


Your answer should tell you who produces for which team. I doubt the Manure team would qualify for UEFA cup much less compete for the title like Chelsea have done every season until the rookie AVB. Dayo, what do you say?

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Pride Of London by coogar: 6:32pm On Apr 19, 2012
Ibime: You are an eediot comparing pass % success with % possession. If Wolves complete 20 passes out of 20, they would be top of your list.

how can wolves complete 20 out of 20? what has this gotta do with your goof?
you lied to us chelsea have the highest possession stats in the league so far, i printed the stats of the
top 5 teams, chelsea weren't in the top 2. same as pass completion stats. so stop lying.


I've had enough of eediots like Coogar and footie neophytes like Nateevs always putting the blame on the most productive players in our team (DD, Lamps and Ballack). I dont have time to go back and forth, so I simply ask people to vote on how many trophies each of the following teams would have won in the last 6 years.

on paper, chelsea should be winning every league title at least till last season but that isn't the case.
chelsea have the players but they don't play to their potentials. united on the other hand have a lot of
average players but fergie seems to know how to get them to punch above their weights. the permutation
and your idiotic theory is senseless.


Your answer should tell you who produces for which team. I doubt the Manure team would qualify for UEFA cup much less compete for the title like Chelsea have done every season until the rookie AVB. Dayo, what do you say?

if fergie manages any of the top 4 teams in england, he would win the league.
the stability, his managerial nous and his absolute control of the dressing room would ensure that.
so try another lie.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Pride Of London by Ibime(m): 6:48pm On Apr 19, 2012
coogar:
on paper, chelsea should be winning every league title at least till last season but that isn't the case.
chelsea have the players but they don't play to their potentials. united on the other hand have a lot of
average players but fergie seems to know how to get them to punch above their weights. the permutation
and your idiotic theory is senseless.


if fergie manages any of the top 4 teams in england, he would win the league.
the stability, his managerial nous and his absolute control of the dressing room would ensure that.
so try another lie.

So now its down to Fergie, not Scholes, Carrick, Fletcher and Anderson's genius? You are a tool!


Football mugu's like yourself and Nateevs have been blaming Lampard, Ballack and DD for Chelsea not winning league last few seasons but these players won league by WALKOVER when they had good wingers (Robben & Duff) in a convincing way that no Manure team has ever won the league even with Ronaldo.

Answer the simple question: which of those two teams would win league? I doubt Scholes and Anderson with all their "flair" would even take Kalou/ Malouda and Joe Cole into the UEFA Cup talkless of winning the league once and taking the league down to the final two games every season plus Champions League finals and semi-finals consistently.

Lemme show you how much a fool you are:


coogar:
scoring 107 goals means squat my friend. you won the league by a single point.
drogba's offside goal @ old trafford won you the league not trying to keep possession rubbish.
last season, ancelotti played from the back and kept possession but lost home/away to united in the
champions league - i can see how ancelotti's tactics panned out well, you fool.

Last season, Ballack (Nateevs enemy) left the team.
DD had malaria

Still. . . the team was top of the league, then Lampard got injured for 4 months.

The team slipped from 1st to 4th/5th and were totally out of contention for anything.

Lampard returned to the team end of January and scored 13 goals in 4 months (only 2 pens). The team finished 2nd in the league and took Manure to final two games of the season before losing the league.

This shows you who CARRIES the team (Lampard, DD and Ballack).


This season, DD obviously playing very few games due to age.

Lampard in and out of the team, substituted regularly and sidelined by AVB who persecuted him.

Now with AVB out the team, the team is flying again (10 wins in 13 games) with Lampard and DD starting every crunch game.


After all this time, some eediots still believe that those who carry the team are responsible for the teams shortcomings.


I simply ask you, Nateevs or anyone out there to look at the two teams I posted and tell me which team would win every season, then come back and tell me - who has been CARRYING Chelsea all this while?

Lemme help you - Its definitely not Kalou, Malouda and Joe Cole!
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Pride Of London by dayokanu(m): 6:59pm On Apr 19, 2012
Nateevs would tell you playing on rigid style, 800m transfer, Player power etc are more important factors in a team
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Pride Of London by eyoniggar(m): 7:14pm On Apr 19, 2012
Choi!! shocked Sharon is truly a deranged human being.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Pride Of London by coogar: 8:01pm On Apr 19, 2012
Ibime:
So now its down to Fergie, not Scholes, Carrick, Fletcher and Anderson's genius? You are a tool!

see this idiotic neophyte. does fergie get to play on the pitch?
fergie maps out the tactics, the players have to execute his tactics to get a result/performance.
this was why i said villas-boas' tactics weren't faulty, chelsea's players were just lethargic
to execute his tactics.


Football mugu's like yourself and Nateevs have been blaming Lampard, Ballack and DD for Chelsea not winning league last few seasons but these players won league by WALKOVER when they had good wingers (Robben & Duff) in a convincing way that no Manure team has ever won the league even with Ronaldo.

who cares how a league title is won? it's about scoring more points than your rivals.
i would be happy to win the league with a point every season till infinitum than winning it by 110 points once
and fading into oblivion later. you are a dunderhead.


Answer the simple question: which of those two teams would win league? I doubt Scholes and Anderson with all their "flair" would even take Kalou/ Malouda and Joe Cole into the UEFA Cup talkless of winning the league once and taking the league down to the final two games every season plus Champions League finals and semi-finals consistently.

if fergie can turn super-limited players like js park, fletcher, gibson into players who perform in europe, fergie
would have solved the problems affecting joe cole/malouda/kalou. players' performance are in the head. it's psychology.
this is why fergie is the best man-manager in the league. he manages to get the best out of his players! so if fergie manages
any team, it does not matter if they have 22 kalous in the squad. he would win titles with them.



Last season, Ballack (Nateevs enemy) left the team.
DD had malaria
Still. . . the team was top of the league, then Lampard got injured for 4 months.
The team slipped from 1st to 4th/5th and were totally out of contention for anything.
Lampard returned to the team end of January and scored 13 goals in 4 months (only 2 pens).
The team finished 2nd in the league and took Manure to final two games of the season before losing the league.
This shows you who CARRIES the team (Lampard, DD and Ballack).

what has this gotta do with anything. chelsea slipped from 1st to 5th only because of lampard?
who the heck is lampard? the only quality of lampard i admire is his availability. he rarely gets
injured and that's a sterling quality. apart from that, i wouldn't take lampard over any midfielder
in man utd. he's positioning is suspect and he's too mechanical. the lampard of 04-08 was very good.
the lampard of 09-till date is dross! super-dross!!!


This season, DD obviously playing very few games due to age.
Lampard in and out of the team, substituted regularly and sidelined by AVB who persecuted him.
Now with AVB out the team, the team is flying again (10 wins in 13 games) with Lampard and DD starting every crunch game.
After all this time, some eediots still believe that those who carry the team are responsible for the teams shortcomings.

i now see your problem. comprehension is your limitation.
nateevs and i opined lampard, drogba, etc undermined the kind of football villas-boas wanted to play.
the football di matteo is playing now is a complete contrast of what villas-boas was playing.
so peruse my points like you went to a tertiary institution instead of rambling like an inscrutable simpleton.


I simply ask you, Nateevs or anyone out there to look at the two teams I posted and tell me which team would win every season, then come back and tell me - who has been CARRYING Chelsea all this while?
Lemme help you - Its definitely not Kalou, Malouda and Joe Cole!

who knows who would win every season. if someone told you 2 months ago that chelsea would beat
barcelona, would you believe him? what's the meaning of look at the two teams you posted?
should man city be 5 points below man utd with the team they have? are you this simple-minded?

you keep confusing yourself.
villas boas wanted flair in his football. that particular style of play did not suit the chelsea veterans.
and we mentioned that back then that the chelsea veterans are not suited to that brand of football.

a new manager came in and he's playing the dull, boring, long ball to drogba tactics, and it suited the veterans.
how does this make villas-boas a wack manager? which of the chelsea players would suit tiki-taka that barcelona play?
and if they fail to adapt to that brand of football, should we then blame pep guardiola or blame lampard for his insipidity?

ibime - your football punditry has gone to the gutters. go n dust the cobweb in your brain cells before engaging me in a
football discourse and stop peddling rumours that chelsea have the best possession stats. they are 5th in the league.
below man utd(with the weakest midfield in the solar system).
you ignorant w@nker!
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Pride Of London by ritchboy(m): 8:03pm On Apr 19, 2012
Hehehe. . .

But one has to admit RDM is a lucky man. There's hardly a result since he took over which hasn't flattered him. Barca shoulda scored 4 or 5 without fuss. cheesy

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