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Are The Angels Of God Male Or Female? by gaddafe(m): 8:36am On Dec 20, 2011
Very strong evidence in the bible make me believe that in the kingdom of God there is neither male or female. On a second thought, God said in Genesis 1:26 let us make man in our own image. He then created man, an evidence that suggest that God and his angels were males. Note: It was when he saw that man was lonely that he created woman. A situation that suggests that woman was initially not in the plan of God.
In the book of Genesis 6:2, when the angels of God saw that there were beautiful girls on earth, they took them as wives. A situation that later resulted in the ladies giving birth to giants on earth. Pls pardon me, I want to be real here, if the angels took the ladies as wives, it simply means they had penn!s. If not, what had they used in producing the babies?
Moslims belive that when you are fighting jihad and you die, some amount of virgins will be given to the individual in heaven, a situation I had often kicked against and tell them that in the realm of the spirit there is neither male or female.
What if there is a male or female in the realm of the spirit?
Based on the few anlysis above and lots more, I ask my fellow believers on NL, are the angels of God male or female?
When one dies which form will the spirit of the individual take?
What is the yardstick that will be used in measuring the gender one takes in the realm of the spirit?
Re: Are The Angels Of God Male Or Female? by Joagbaje(m): 9:07am On Dec 20, 2011
There's is no female angel
Re: Are The Angels Of God Male Or Female? by gaddafe(m): 9:22am On Dec 20, 2011
^^^ Based on what evidence? Or are you one of those that just believe what your pastor or bible says without asking any questions?
Re: Are The Angels Of God Male Or Female? by Joagbaje(m): 9:30am On Dec 20, 2011
I should ask you same question. There's no reference to female gender in angelic activities. Female is only require in reproduction. All the angels are "he,him in bible reference.

It's demons who have female .
Re: Are The Angels Of God Male Or Female? by EarsWide(m): 9:36am On Dec 20, 2011
You guys don't argue with Jo o, he can raise people from the dead. LOL
Re: Are The Angels Of God Male Or Female? by Joagbaje(m): 10:28am On Dec 20, 2011
You'll wear yourself out dude.
Re: Are The Angels Of God Male Or Female? by gaddafe(m): 12:54pm On Dec 20, 2011
Joagbaje:

I should ask you same question. There's no reference to female gender in angelic activities. Female is only require in reproduction. All the angels are "he,him in bible reference.

It's demons who have female .
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Who were the demons before they became demons? If you read your bible throughly you will observe that the devil did not create any demon, they were all once sons of God. It was after the rebellion that the angels that were on the side of the devil were sent out of heaven, hence they are now being referred to as demons. Does it not strike you that if some demons created by God are female therefore some of the female angels who did not rebel against God still exist in heaven or are you telling me that the bible listed all the names of the whole angels in heaven.
It takes only a spiritual man who has visited heaven to know what the heavenly body looks like. And also note that in the days when the bible was written females were in most cases not included when counting people in figures. A popular example is when Jesus fed 5000 people. The actual figure is that of males. Why were the women and children not counted?

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Re: Are The Angels Of God Male Or Female? by emmy04(m): 1:43pm On Dec 20, 2011
ask God wen u see him,
Re: Are The Angels Of God Male Or Female? by Joagbaje(m): 3:18pm On Dec 20, 2011
@gaddafe

The demons are believed to have been beings who once lives on the earth millions of years ago in the prehistoric times when lucifer reigned on the earth. Their world was destroyed at the rebellion of lucifer. That world was destroyed by a flood.

The demons are not fallen angels. Angels have no females but demons have females and other human attribute. That's why they desperately desire to occupy human bodies to express themselves.

2 Peter 3:5-7
5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: 6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: 7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
Re: Are The Angels Of God Male Or Female? by gaddafe(m): 6:27pm On Dec 20, 2011
Demons are not fallen angels, they are humans who once lived, blah blah blah. You even said pre-historic time, so how did you find out if this happened before history was recorded? Okay, where are the fallen angels, what are they been referred to if not demons? The devil is just one out of fallen angels. You even quoted the scripture. How is it related to what you explained above?
I can explain what 2Peter 3:5-7 means in pure and simple english in case KJV is getting you confused.
Re: Are The Angels Of God Male Or Female? by Vicjustice: 10:02pm On Dec 20, 2011
Joagbaje:

I should ask you same question. There's no reference to female gender in angelic activities. Female is only require in reproduction. All the angels are "he,him in bible reference.

It's demons who have female .
Laughing Out Loud, lol
Re: Are The Angels Of God Male Or Female? by Joagbaje(m): 11:43pm On Dec 20, 2011
gaddafe:

Demons are not fallen angels, they are humans who once lived, blah blah blah. You even said pre-historic time, so how did you find out if this happened before history was recorded? Okay, where are the fallen angels, what are they been referred to if not demons? The devil is just one out of fallen angels. You even quoted the scripture. How is it related to what you explained above?
I can explain what 2Peter 3:5-7 means in pure and simple english in case KJV is getting you confused.

Try read this article ,even if not all.


The Pre-Adamite World and Origin of Satan, a.k.a. Lucifer


"And the earth was , " (Genesis 1:2)

At the very beginning of the Bible the reader is confronted with the first mystery of the Holy Scriptures; a mystery which, when fully understood, reveals why the ancient geologic fossil record is fairly accurate, and why the account of the six 24-hour days of creation in the Holy Scriptures is a regeneration of the heaven and the Earth and NOT in direct contradiction to the accepted geologic time scale.

What you will learn here precept-upon-precept (Isaiah 28:10-11) will help you understand many other difficult passages throughout the Bible, from Genesis to Revelation. The Genesis account must be interpreted from God's perspective, not man's (Isaiah 55:8-9). Hold onto your faith; it is about to be tested (1 John 4:1)!

In Genesis 1:2, and in direct contrast to the glorious "heaven and earth" of Genesis 1:1 (which, according to Isaiah 45:18, was initially created by the Word of God to be inhabited), the Spirit now speaks of the same Earth as a planet now in ruin and total desolation:

"And the earth was without form [], and void []; and darkness [] was upon the face of the deep
 []. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters."
(Genesis 1:2 KJV)

"For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old [], and the earth standing [] out of the water and in the water: Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed [] with water, perished [] : But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men."
 (2 Pet 3:5-7 KJV)

(Interactive: Click the Greek and Hebrew words above to see Strong's Concordance Reference.)

At verse Genesis 1:2 the Earth is a lifeless and uninhabited planet drifting in the cold and darkness of the chaotic remains of the old universe. The planet is submerged in water, and waters also rage around it and across a ruined universal abyssal. Carefully (and prayerfully) consider the import of the Hebrew and Greek word definitions given above. As you study the root word definitions and the English translation of the KJV Bible, a picture emerges of a former world that once existed but now is totally destroyed and dead. Taking the words of the Bible at face value and reading the verses objectively, several facts become clear:

First, the context and time placement of Genesis 1:2 is one verse BEFORE God says, "Let there be light, " (Genesis 1:3), where He begins the creative process of the famous six days found in Genesis 1:3 through 1:31.

Second, if "light" (Genesis 1:3) was the very first thing God ever created, then what is all this other stuff already in existence? Specifically, in Genesis 1:2 there is water, composed of hydrogen and oxygen, and there is the Earth, composed of myriads of elements and compounds AND in a solid form recognizable as a planet which has already been assigned a proper name. Water and Earth are both matter. According to the observations of physics (in particular the equation e=mc2), in order for matter to exist there must be space; space and matter must exist in time; matter, space, and time are directly governed by the speed of light, which is a constant. According to the face value of the exact words of Genesis 1:2 in the KJV Bible, the planet Earth, much water, and a universe in time already existed BEFORE God says, "Let there be light" in Genesis 1:3.

Third, and very important, there is something else already present at this time: DARKNESS! And not just physical darkness (an absence of light) but also spiritual darkness (the absence of holiness and harmony ).

When all these facts are taken into account, the following inescapable truths stand out:

The planet Earth and a universe were already in existence before the creative process of Genesis 1:3 through 1:31 even begins. Earth had already existed for an unspecified period of historical time.
The physics of time, space, and matter are already established, which by extension means that the processes which regulate radioactive decay (the half life principle) are also functioning and valid.
At some undetermined time in history past, Death and the powers of darkness first came into being, before Adam.
Before we proceed further, we need to firmly establish a governing principle for regulating our interpretation of the Holy Scriptures and the Earth's geology:

If the Bible is true and faithful about Jesus and redemption by His shed blood on the cross of Calvary; if the Bible is true and faithful about man's fall and need for redemption; if the Bible is true and faithful about heaven, hell and coming judgment; if the Bible is faithful and true about the history of Israel and the patriarchs, then the Bible is also true about Moses and the Lord parting the Red sea. It is true about the Lord making the sundial go backwards 10 degrees as a sign to Hezekiah (read 2 Kings 20:9-11); it is true about the Lord making the sun stand still in the sky for Joshua (read Joshua 10:12-14); and it is true that the Lord made the present heavens and Earth, our "world", in just six 24-hour days, and only about 6,000 years ago, just as the Scriptures say. We must take the Lord's words as truth.

Now, also consider this: If the ages of the geologic fossil record are true and faithful as is commonly accepted; if the principle of radioactive decay and half-life dating is true and reliable; if those same dating techniques are reliable when they show that the oldest known rocks on the Earth are around 3.8 to 4.5 billion years old, and that the first fossil remains of macro organic life on this planet were approximately 500 - 700 million years ago, then we are confronted with the only logical conclusion:

THE SIX DAYS OF GENESIS ARE THE ACCOUNT OF A RE-CREATION, OR REGENERATION OF A PREVIOUSLY EXISTING HEAVENS AND EARTH, NOT THE ORIGINAL FIRST- TIME CREATION OF ALL THINGS BY THE LORD, AND THAT GENESIS CHAPTER ONE'S SEVEN CREATIVE DAYS ARE CERTAINLY NOT A GEOLOGICAL HISTORY OF THE EARTH!

There is no other logical answer that makes any sense in light of the true and faithful words of the Bible and the time-tested physical observations (not theories) of the geologic sciences.

If, however, we accept this as the true solution to the Creation vs. Evolution paradox, then the scientists are wrong about every living thing on the face of the planet today being a DIRECT DESCENDENT of living things which evolved across those hundreds of millions of years of natural history, because the condition of the former world as revealed in Genesis 1:2 is that of a completely dead planet, void of any remaining life forms whatsoever. On the other hand, it also means that every living thing on the face of the planet today IS DIRECTLY DESCENDED from those life forms which God made when He re-created the heavens and Earth about 6,000 years ago, and that those replacement life forms were patterned after the same "kinds" of life forms that inhabited the face of the old Earth shortly before it perished. In addition, every man, woman, and child alive on the face of the Earth today is genetically descended from the first man, Adam, who was made in God's image and NOT "after his kind" like the beasts and vegetation. By extension, this implies that any genetic DNA sampled from known "human" remains actually older than 6,000 years (like "Neanderthal" and "Cro-Magnon"wink will be found to have no genetic connection to any people living on the Earth today. Several examples of this evidence are presented in our section titled "Life Forms Prior to the Six Days of Creation," in which we also show when all life from the previous world perished. 

In essence, what the Scriptures are collectively saying is this:

Long ago, in very distant times past, the Lord God first created the heaven and Earth (Genesis 1:1). But at the place in time referred to in Genesis 1:2, there has been a vast gap in historical time on the order of possibly hundreds of millions of years. In Genesis 1:1 we have a glorious heaven and Earth, but in 1:2 we see a decimated heaven and Earth. The bulk of the geologic column fits in-between 1:1 and 1:2, and the geologic time marker at Genesis 1:2 is the very end of the Pleistocene. The end of the Pleistocene (about 12,000 to 14,000 years ago) shows evidence of a global extinction event and a severe drop in global temperatures. From the evidence we will show that all life perished from the face of the Earth for a brief period before God regenerated a new creation from the remains of the old heavens and Earth.

So what exactly happened during this great gap of time between Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2? Why was Death already in existence before the six days and before Adam sinned? More specifically, how were sin and death on the Earth before Adam was even created if Romans 5:12 is taken as literal truth? For clues to that answer we must look to the writings of the prophets Isaiah and Ezekiel. There, in the prophetic Scriptures, the Holy Ghost spoke through these men concerning the origin of Satan, which is the key doctrine to unlocking this great mystery.



What the Spirit of Truth Reveals in the Words of Truth



In the passages below the prophets are speaking against the "king of Babylon" (Isaiah 14:4) and the "prince of Tyrus" (Ezekiel 28:2) who were renown mortal men of history. Prophetically, the Spirit is also addressing a man yet to come, the antichrist (see 2 Thessalonians 2:1-10). It is clearly evident from the content, however, that the Holy Ghost is also speaking here against a spirit; an ancient, unholy, and malevolent spirit that motivated the evil deeds of these historical and mortal men:

"How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! [how] art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High. Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit. They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, [and] consider thee, [saying, Is] this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;"
(Isaiah 14:12-16 KJV)

"Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone [was] thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.  Thou [art] the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee [so]: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. Thou [wast] perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee. By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire. Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee."
(Ezekiel 28:13-17 KJV)

The words highlighted speak of things that could not possibly be attributed to the actual acts of any human king or prince. No man in history has ever "walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire"  or  "fallen from heaven."

The name "Lucifer" means "light bearer" or "brightness" in the Hebrew sense of the word. This creature was the first King of the Kingdom of Heaven in the day when the Lord God created the heaven and Earth (Genesis 1:1). It is important to understand that the "Kingdom of Heaven" is not something that just begins with the Gospels of the New Testament. The saga for the control and Kingship of the "Kingdom of Heaven" is the Bible's core theme, from Genesis through Revelation. The geography of this Kingdom is from the Earth below up to all things within the bounds of the firmament of heaven, the physical universe. This topic is discussed more in depth in the section "Kingdom of Heaven vs Kingdom of God, the Doctrinal Difference."

For now we must learn about a created creature whom the Lord God first placed in charge and stewardship over the Kingdom of Heaven at the very beginning of time, long ago. This angelic being, actually a Cherubim named Lucifer, was second only to the throne of God and was the choir leader of the universe in the day when the Lord God first made all things:

"Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding. Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it? Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof; When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?"
(Job 38:4-7 KJV)

At the ancient time of the original creation, there was spiritual harmony and continuity in the newly created physical world of the Kingdom, from the surface of the Earth upwards to the throne of the triune eternal God. Physical matter and spirit were one under the stewardship of Lucifer, this anointed cherub. He was second only to the Lord God in power and authority over the realm of the whole Kingdom. Lucifer was a created being, created by God to serve Him as ruler of the Kingdom and leader of worship to the Lord.

You should also note that Lucifer was "covered" in a detail of 10 precious stones. These are not the exact same 12 stones that the High Priest of Israel wore on his Breastplate, but the similarities of such a covering signify that Lucifer was a priestly ruler over the old world of those ancient times.  But he was not satisfied with his glorious appointed station over all things in the Kingdom and eventually desired to be "God" himself: "I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High."

Lucifer rebelled and transgressed against the Lord God and became the first created being to sin. Lucifer sinned a long, long time ago before Adam was even created. The earliest (thus first) documented sin (and documented in the Holy Scriptures we should add) occurred countless eons ago. It certainly happened before the Cambrian geologic period (about 500 -600 million years ago), because that is where we see an explosion of well-developed life forms in the fossil  record, with no antecedent fossils in the more ancient Precambrian, except for what has been interpreted as bacteria or primitive cell remains. Consequently, what appears in the fossil record to the evolutionist as an explosion of life is, to the creationist, an explosion of death. The sudden appearance of the remains of extremely complex life forms does not mean those ancient life forms were only as old as the Cambrian times. They could have been living in the geologic times long before the Cambrian. Things that are alive don't leave remains UNTIL they die. The Cambrian, therefore, marks the first record of death of complex life forms in the Earth's history, not the very beginning of complex life itself.

There is another extremely noteworthy geologic event that took place on the ancient Earth just before the Cambrian explosion. Scientists have accumulated evidence through observations that seem to suggest that the Earth was frozen over completely at the end of the Precambrian.  Since the 1960s, scientists have hypothesized that the Earth was subjected to severe glacial action between about 750 million and 580 million years ago. This is called the Snowball Earth hypothesis and it has been proposed to explain a number of observations in the geological record. It proposes there was an ice age back at that time which was so severe that the Earth's oceans completely froze over.

How is this event directly connected to the Cambrian Explosion that followed? Is it a coincidence that, following the Snowball Earth and the Cambrian Explosion events, the Earth's continents began to break apart? At that time in Earth's history the world's continental landmass was locked together in the configuration of a supercontinent (called "Rodinia"wink which was clustered near the Earth's equator. This sequence of events, a super Ice Age, the Cambrian Explosion of life and the breakup of Rodinia, all occur in the time frame between about 750 million to 500 million years ago. This is the most likely point in Earth’s natural history for Lucifer's rebellion and the domino effects it precipitated on all creation.

Allow me to digress for a minute and inject some parenthetical thoughts. Make note of the association of Lucifer with the "stones of fire," and keep in mind that "fire" can be a physical and/or spiritual component:

"And Elisha prayed, and said, LORD, I pray thee, open his eyes, that he may see. And the LORD opened the eyes of the young man; and he saw: and, behold, the mountain [was] full of horses and chariots of fire round about Elisha."
(2 Kings 6:17 KJV)

"And out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices: and [there were] seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God."
(Revelation 4:5 KJV)

"For our God [is] a consuming fire."
(Hebrews 12:29 KJV)

In the Hebrew language concordance the word for the “stones” spoken of as the ‘stones of fire’ is eben eh'-ben, which suggests that these “stones” were more akin to building blocks or masonry than to natural rocks or burning volcanic brimstone. I believe this is significant, as it may be telling us that this covering cherub, Lucifer, was in the setting of some sort of spiritual structure of fire. A TEMPLE of fire on the Earth? After all, this Lucifer also had a covering of diverse gemstones, similar to the breastplate of gemstones worn by the High Priests of the tabernacle and the temple in Old Testament times. Are these similarities a coincidence? But, I digress.

Regardless, with his initial act of sin and rebellion, Death and corruption, like leaven, began to permeate the physical cosmos that was under Lucifer's stewardship to rule. It started in Eden, the Garden of God on the Earth, and spread like a cancer. Because Lucifer was the steward of the whole creation under heaven when he fell, all things under his rule were also subjected to corruption. Every life form then present, and those that afterwards came forth across Earth's natural history, had the sentence of death upon them. Their fossilized remains are the testimony, written in stone, of life's struggle under that sentence across the geologic ages. And over those vast geologic ages, the physical universe and all things in it eventually decayed, and the whole system finally ran down and died (entropy).

Scientists use the term "Evolution" to describe the observed "progress" of life forms on this planet as revealed in the fossil record.  Darwin called it the survival of the fittest, and it does appear that more and more complex organisms took their place on the stage of history, but they did so by killing and adapting to the struggle against death. The dinosaurs came and went. All things died, and those creatures that came after them also died. So it continued across millenniums of historical time until the spirit of death overtook all things, including the stars across the universe. A few million years ago coldness and darkness began to increase. It was the onset of what we call the beginning of the last Ice Age, and it is the universe's eventual cold, dark, and completely dead condition that the Spirit describes in the words of the time period of Genesis 1:2:

"And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness [was] upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters."
(Genesis 1:2 KJV)

At this point in historical time (Genesis 1:2), with the ancient world in total ruin, the Lord God draws a clear distinction in the cosmos between spiritual AND physical light and darkness. At the very beginning of this regeneration work He sets an impassable and fixed boundary between His Holy throne on high and the corrupted physical realm of matter below.

"And God said, Let there be a firmament [] in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which [were] under the firmament from the waters which [were] above the firmament: and it was so. And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day."
(Genesis 1:6-8 KJV)

This firmament, the reconfiguration as structured here, contains three heavens; specifically, the Earth's atmosphere as the first and outer space as the second. The Third Heaven is above it all, beyond the realm of the physical cosmos. In between the second and third heaven the Lord God now places a "Sea" which is a point of division. This Sea is above the cosmos but below the third heaven. These "waters above the firmament" are spoken of in the following references:  Gen 1:6-10, Rev 4:6, Rev 21:1, and others including Ezekiel 1:22.

This is a partition He established between Himself and His abode (Holy and pure) and the physical cosmos below (now purged from uncleanness, yet still bearing the buried scars of Death's previous effects, the fossil record). You will notice that this partition work, the work of the second day, is NOT pronounced as "good." The work of the second day is the only work that is not called "good," but it was necessary and good only in respect to the whole regeneration scheme, for reasons that will become more evident later in this study.

"And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world."
(John 8:23 KJV)

"Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come:"
(Ephesians 1:21 KJV)

The impassable barrier of that firmament would not be breached until the death, burial, and resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ. Just like the veil of the Temple that rent when the Lord Jesus died, signifying that He had broken down the wall of partition between God and man, that firmament in type is similar to the veil or curtain which was between the Holy place and the Holy of Holies, through which only the high priest could enter to make the atonement. (You should now be starting to get the picture.) In other words, there was nobody from the profane world below who was going to get up to the Third heaven through the firmament until Jesus made the way.

Having drawn the lines between the profane and Holy worlds, the Lord God proceeds to renew the face of the old planet Earth with replacement vegetation (Day 3: Genesis 1:11-12), regenerates the second heaven, the cosmos (Day 4: Genesis 1:14), and fills the Earth with living creatures (Days 5 and 6: Genesis 1:20-25) similar to the "kinds" of life forms that had previously been on the Earth. He then proceeds to create Adam, the first True Man (also made on Day 6), made in the image of God, to be God's next appointed King of the Kingdom of Heaven.

Lucifer and those "sons of God" (see Genesis 6:1-4) who followed him in the ancient rebellion were still around, but could now only have indirect influence in the new world the Lord God had made on the face of the old planet, and he had temporarily lost control of the power of death. In order for Satan to communicate with Eve he had to become incarnate in the physical "Serpent" that was in the Garden of Eden. It appears from the verse below that the "sons of God" (we are assuming here the ones who had not followed Lucifer in rebellion) had access to the new world and were known to Adam and Eve; otherwise where did their their knowledge of "gods" come from? Read carefully:

"And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil."
(Genesis 3:4-5 KJV)

It seems that the innocent and sinless man and woman were familiar with other beings in their world known as "gods," and they must have been some kind of marvelous creatures to behold in their goings and comings; otherwise, why would the serpent use such as comparison to tempt her? This passage also shows that Evil was lurking there and that a clear distinction had already been made between "good and evil" (Genesis 1:4) in the new world, although Adam and Eve were blind to it in their initial innocence.

Now as for Death, the Scriptures tell us it was also present and dormant in the background of the new world as well. This is shown by the fact that Adam and Eve, although innocent and sinless, were NOT IMMORTAL beings. Since they were created from the dust of a temporal world, they would have to eat of the "Tree of Life" (Genesis 2:9) in order to have full physical immortality; else why the necessity of there even being a "Tree of Life" in the garden? And if, as Young Earth Creationists claim, nothing happened before Adam and Eve like any death or sin, what would be the purpose of the tree of knowledge of good and evil in the first place?

"And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:"
(Genesis 3:22 KJV)

When the Lord God made Adam He made him from the physical elements of the planet Earth.

"And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul."
(Genesis 2:7 KJV)

Although Adam was a living "soul" created in the image of God, his physical body was made from the dust of the same Earth which, at this point in time, also had the fossilized remains of the planet's past history buried under it. The soil was not pure and undefiled, but Adam was formed from it.

You must keep in mind that in the Old Testament, before Calvary and the new birth through the Lord Jesus Christ, the physical body of man and his soul are spoken of as a single entity, stuck together, although we know that there is a distinctive difference between the soul and the flesh.

"And it came to pass, as her soul was in departing, (for she died) that she called his name Benoni: but his father called him Benjamin."
(Genesis 35:18 KJV)

Although Adam was made innocent (he was not born), without sin, he was not immortal at this point. Had he not eaten of the "tree of the knowledge of good and evil" his flesh would have eventually died anyway, unless he and Eve ate from the "tree of life" that was in the garden. When Adam and Eve transgressed, their "eyes were opened" (see Genesis 3:7); their innocence was lost and they died spiritually and, in due course, physically.

"Jesus said unto them, If ye were blind, ye should have no sin: but now ye say, We see; therefore your sin remaineth."
(John 9:41 KJV)

By their transgression Satan regained control of the Kingdom, and the power of death entered full force into and upon the world of mankind. Because Adam was the appointed steward of the new world, all the creation of that new world was subjected to death through his act of disobedience.

"Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:"
(Romans 5:12 KJV)

"Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;"
(Hebrews 2:14 KJV)

Through deceit Lucifer, now Satan, regained control of the newly regenerated physical realm of the Kingdom of Heaven:

"And the devil, taking him up into an high mountain, shewed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time. And the devil said unto him, All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it. If thou therefore wilt worship me, all shall be thine."
(Luke 4:5-7 KJV)

"And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force."
(Matthew 11:12 KJV)

The Lord Jesus Christ, through His sacrificial death on the cross and His resurrection from the dead, reclaimed the title and ownership of the Kingdom of Heaven. And one day, in the not too distant future, He will come back to take possession of what is rightfully now His, purchased by His shed blood:

"Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence."
(John 18:36 KJV)

"And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth."
(Matthew 28:18 KJV)

"At that time they shall call Jerusalem the throne of the LORD; and all the nations shall be gathered unto it, to the name of the LORD, to Jerusalem: neither shall they walk any more after the imagination of their evil heart."
(Jeremiah 3:17 KJV)

"But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay [them] before me."
(Luke 19:27 KJV)

The "Kingdom" and who will rightfully rule it is the CENTRAL THEME of the Scriptures and all history of the ages.  Every Christian knows how the story will end (Revelation chapters 19-22), but few know or understand exactly how, why, and when the story began.



Final Notes on Lucifer and matters pertaining to the Kingdom:

When prayerfully studying these matters, note the close association of the "anointed Cherub" with crystalline minerals and elements, including metals, which are physical things:

"Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created."
(Eze 28:13 KJV)

Man is made from the dust of the Earth. Our flesh is composed of water and many of the same mineral elements that are found in some of these stones (primarily carbon, as in the case of the diamond). The Scriptures say that Satan has power to work through the flesh:

"Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience: Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others."
(Ephesians 2:2-3 KJV)

Also, take note of the word "tabrets" which denote an association with music (which is physical, and yet has spirit).

In the next chapter, we will study the structure of the regenerated heavens.

Re: Are The Angels Of God Male Or Female? by gaddafe(m): 6:12am On Dec 21, 2011
You have this information and you had been busy saying blah blah blah. This is what you should have sent before. I've actually read some, and i'ii read the rest before coming back to comment. The writer actually seems to know what he is writing.
Re: Are The Angels Of God Male Or Female? by PAGAN9JA(m): 6:34am On Dec 21, 2011
angels are bisexual. tongue
Re: Are The Angels Of God Male Or Female? by gaddafe(m): 7:50am On Dec 21, 2011
Joagbaje:

Try read this article ,even if not all.


Where did u actually get this article from? What is the source? Plus I need the next chapter. Is it possible i get it?
Re: Are The Angels Of God Male Or Female? by Joagbaje(m): 8:36am On Dec 21, 2011
gaddafe:

You have this information and you had been busy saying blah blah blah. This is what you should have sent before. I've actually read some, and i'ii read the rest before coming back to comment. The writer actually seems to know what he is writing.

Well I didint want to because, it doesn't support my position about fallen angels, I thinks it supports your own idea more.But here is the link

http://www.kjvbible.org/satan.html
Re: Are The Angels Of God Male Or Female? by mazaje(m): 2:42pm On Dec 21, 2011
Joagbaje:

There's is no female angel

Men in patriarchal societies invent Gods that are males, same men invented angels so all angles are males and not females. . .Islam even goes ahead to say that there will be more males than females in heaven. . . cheesy
Re: Are The Angels Of God Male Or Female? by dare2think: 3:00pm On Dec 21, 2011
Joagbaje:

I should ask you same question. There's no reference to female gender in angelic activities. Female is only require in reproduction. All the angels are "he,him in bible reference.

It's demons who have female .

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

Hilarious.

Women, you guys don suffer.

From pastors slapping you to this. cry
Re: Are The Angels Of God Male Or Female? by gaddafe(m): 1:11am On Jul 09, 2012
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Re: Are The Angels Of God Male Or Female? by Nobody: 3:08am On Jul 09, 2012
mazaje:

Men in patriarchal societies invent Gods that are males, same men invented angels so all angles are males and not females. . .Islam even goes ahead to say that there will be more males than females in heaven. . . cheesy
as simple as ABC!
Re: Are The Angels Of God Male Or Female? by Ndipe(m): 3:22am On Jul 09, 2012
Angels never took part in the creation of mankind.


gaddafe: Very strong evidence in the bible make me believe that in the kingdom of God there is neither male or female. On a second thought, God said in Genesis 1:26 let us make man in our own image. He then created man, an evidence that suggest that God and his angels were males. Note: It was when he saw that man was lonely that he created woman. A situation that suggests that woman was initially not in the plan of God.
In the book of Genesis 6:2, when the angels of God saw that there were beautiful girls on earth, they took them as wives. A situation that later resulted in the ladies giving birth to giants on earth. Pls pardon me, I want to be real here, if the angels took the ladies as wives, it simply means they had penn!s. If not, what had they used in producing the babies?
Moslims belive that when you are fighting jihad and you die, some amount of virgins will be given to the individual in heaven, a situation I had often kicked against and tell them that in the realm of the spirit there is neither male or female.
What if there is a male or female in the realm of the spirit?
Based on the few anlysis above and lots more, I ask my fellow believers on NL, are the angels of God male or female?
When one dies which form will the spirit of the individual take?
What is the yardstick that will be used in measuring the gender one takes in the realm of the spirit?
Re: Are The Angels Of God Male Or Female? by tpia5: 1:48am On Nov 10, 2013
angels are asexual but typically have the appearance of males.
Re: Are The Angels Of God Male Or Female? by tpia5: 1:49am On Nov 10, 2013
Joagbaje: I should ask you same question. There's no reference to female gender in angelic activities. Female is only require in reproduction. All the angels are "he,him in bible reference.

It's demons who have female .

is this opinion supported in the bible?
Re: Are The Angels Of God Male Or Female? by tpia5: 1:50am On Nov 10, 2013
There's no reference to female gender in angelic activities

there's one reference here, although they are not angels:

zech 5

9 Then lifted I up mine eyes, and looked, and, behold, there came out two women, and the wind was in their wings; for they had wings like the wings of a stork: and they lifted up the ephah between the earth and the heaven.
Re: Are The Angels Of God Male Or Female? by emmamaraihe: 2:27am On Nov 10, 2013
Pls Gen6:2 says sons of God not angels , read ur bible proper before speaking
Re: Are The Angels Of God Male Or Female? by Ndipe(m): 1:14am On Nov 11, 2013
@poster, for your information, Angels did not partake in the creation of mankind.
Re: Are The Angels Of God Male Or Female? by pastormustwac: 6:09am On Nov 11, 2013
gaddafe: [b][/b]

Who were the demons before they became demons? If you read your bible throughly you will observe that the devil did not create any demon, they were all once sons of God. It was after the rebellion that the angels that were on the side of the devil were sent out of heaven, hence they are now being referred to as demons. Does it not strike you that if some demons created by God are female therefore some of the female angels who did not rebel against God still exist in heaven or are you telling me that the bible listed all the names of the whole angels in heaven.
It takes only a spiritual man who has visited heaven to know what the heavenly body looks like. And also note that in the days when the bible was written females were in most cases not included when counting people in figures. A popular example is when Jesus fed 5000 people. The actual figure is that of males. Why were the women and children not counted?
I sabi that one - in those ages, women and children are not counted because they are not considered significant.
Re: Are The Angels Of God Male Or Female? by pastormustwac: 6:17am On Nov 11, 2013
From my own research and all that. My belief is that when Angels came to marry our women, they gave birth to abnormalities - the giants of old or whatever you call them. These beings were created in a different way from man.

A man that has both parents being human will have ehm body, soul and spirit right?

Now these giants are not exactly like that, they posses body and a 'soul', but they do not have a spirit to guide them - this is why they were so evil and spread evil on the face of the earth that earth that lead to the flood.

When the flood happened, the angels casted off their bodies and tried to escape but were banned from entering heaven and were stranded here on earth as 'fallen angels'.

Their children, the giants died in the flood but their souls cannot ascend like souls of men, so this their soul/spirit whatever you call them are disembodied spirits - they then roam about the earth, and because they were once humans, they always desire to feel emotions and use a body again - so they delight in taking over a human body to express themselves.

Hence you see things like demons causing madness, etc

Just an opinion, read the book of Enoch to know more about demons if you will. So they are not on the same power level as fallen angels - who are far more dangerous.
Re: Are The Angels Of God Male Or Female? by pastormustwac: 6:18am On Nov 11, 2013
Zech 5:9
Then lifted I up mine eyes, and looked, and, behold, there came out two women, and the wind was in their wings; for they had wings like the wings of a stork: and they lifted up the ephah between the earth and the heaven.

Those women are female angels or them be winch?

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