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Re: Muhammad Was An Abolitionist. He Purchased The Freedom Of Slaves by plappville(f): 12:12am On Jan 04, 2012
@lagosShia is shamefully saying the islamic books are fake.
A Hadith Sahih is an authentic one. I brough them from same source.

U ve qouted biblical verses and yet show an Event that Christ commanded stonning to death.
Ur Kuran that was written by men, edited several times. Some parts were said to be eaten by animals grin
A Holy book that ve lost half value, its not wort it. The missing verses in the Quran are the deadly ons.
They were removed, not lost, thats the truth why the Quran still remain in pretends.
Re: Muhammad Was An Abolitionist. He Purchased The Freedom Of Slaves by LagosShia: 12:27am On Jan 04, 2012
plappville:

@lagosShia is shamefully saying the islamic books are fake.
A Hadith Sahih is an authentic one. I brough them from same source.
"a hadith sahih is an authentic one",says who? who made it "sahih"? you?


U ve qouted biblical verses and yet show an Event that Christ commanded stonning to death.
those seem non-existent!!!


your Kuran that was written by men, edited several times. Some parts were said to be eaten by animals grin
A Holy book that ve lost half value, its not wort it. The missing verses in the Quran are the deadly ons.
They were removed, not lost, thats the truth why the Quran still remain in pretends.

wishful thinking!!!
funny part is when i show you how your bible is edited and re-edited every year like a comic book,i presented the verses and links to them as earlier done in this thread also.

but you keep throwing on wishful thinking but will not prove what you are saying.compare two copies of the Quran to prove your case.
Re: Muhammad Was An Abolitionist. He Purchased The Freedom Of Slaves by Nobody: 1:02am On Jan 04, 2012
@plappville

You don't need to argue your faith with anyone especially if their intention is not to know or reason but to dismiss it.

@LagosShia

You are so particular about some verses of the bible that was omitted in modern translation or edited as the case may be. Christianity does not need a book to survive. Before the Roman catholic church collated the books of the bible Christianity thrives with the message of Christ and if all the bibles in the world should be burnt today Christianity would still thrive just as it still does in North Korea even if 80% of North Korean Christians are currently condemned into concentration camps and bible is forbidden.

If you want the earliest manuscripts written in Aramaic, ancient Greek and the ones in Latin  you can asses it. They are not kept away from the public. And when you ask yourself the first question "Does this omission or editing change the message in these bibles? the answer would be NO. Why were they omitted or edited? because (1) there seem to be better understanding of  certain words whose meanings were hitherto unknown  (2) As the English language changes and scholars have better understanding of ancient languages and their meanings they feel  it is important to upgrade these verses or paragraphs to reflect the best possible translation.

If you think what has been done is wrong then you can always get the original manuscripts and interpret them. Fortunately you can assess all version of the bible ever written. So there is nothing anybody is hiding.  What is more important is if you even understand what you read in the bible and ultimately understand Christianity. Because you can pick up the bible, read it, and practice Judaism not necessarily Christianity.   


'Now an angel of the Lord said to Philip, “Go south to the road—the desert road—that goes down from Jerusalem to Gaza.” So he started out, and on his way he met an Ethiopiand eunuch, an important official in charge of all the treasury of Candace, queen of the Ethiopians. This man had gone to Jerusalem to worship, and on his way home was sitting in his chariot reading the book of Isaiah the prophet. The Spirit told Philip, “Go to that chariot and stay near it.” Then Philip ran up to the chariot and heard the man reading Isaiah the prophet. “Do you understand what you are reading?” Philip asked. “How can I,” he said, “unless someone explains it to me?” So he invited Philip to come up and sit with him.
The eunuch was reading this passage of Scripture:

“He was led like a sheep to the slaughter,
and as a lamb before the shearer is silent,
so he did not open his mouth.
In his humiliation he was deprived of justice.
Who can speak of his descendants?
For his life was taken from the earth.”
The eunuch asked Philip, “Tell me, please, who is the prophet talking about, himself or someone else?” Then Philip began with that very passage of Scripture and told him the good news about Jesus. - Acts 8: 26 - 34


I have seen from many of your posts that you do not understand the Christianity you are trying to criticize. You confuse Judaism with Christianity and often wonder how to make sense of the God of the bible. may be if you read the book of Hebrews with an open heart you may find answers to many of your questions ( I assume you know what Judaism is all about) 

Shalom!
Re: Muhammad Was An Abolitionist. He Purchased The Freedom Of Slaves by PAGAN9JA(m): 6:58am On Jan 04, 2012
The Kaábah was a Pagan Temple built by us Pagans. Stop taking credit for our efforts. It was also a centre of trade, learning, exchanging knowledge, news, ideas, settling disputes, justice, etc., in the Great days of Paganism.
Re: Muhammad Was An Abolitionist. He Purchased The Freedom Of Slaves by PAGAN9JA(m): 7:54am On Jan 04, 2012
[size=32pt]CONVERSION OF PAGAN SHRINES INTO MOSQUES BY MUSLIMS[/size]:


The conversion of ancient Pagan sites into muslim mosques is nothing new. it has been repeated by muslims over the past, many-a-times.
here are a few examples:


1) The Kaábah

Before the rise of Islam the Ka'aba was revered as a sacred sanctuary and was a site of pilgrimage.".[2] At the time of Muhammad (AD 570–632), his tribe the Quraysh was in charge of the Kaaba, which was at that time a shrine containing hundreds of idols representing Arabian tribal gods and other religious figures. Muhammad earned the enmity of his tribe by claiming the shrine for the new religion of Islam that he preached. He wanted the Kaaba to be dedicated to the worship of the one God alone, and all the idols were evicted. The Black Stone (al-Hajar-ul-Aswad), still present at the Kaaba was a special object of veneration at the site. According to tradition the text of seven especially honored poems were suspended around the Ka'aba, but there is no contemporary evidence for this claim.


2) Hindu, Jain and Buddhist temples

The destruction of Hindu temples in India during the Islamic conquest of India occurred from the beginning of Muslim conquest until the end the Mughal Empire throughout the Indian subcontinent.

In his book "Hindu Temples - What Happened to Them", Sita Ram Goel included a list of 2000 mosques that it is claimed were built on Hindu temples. The second volume of the book excerpts from medieval histories and chronicles and from inscriptions concerning the destruction of Hindu, Jain and Buddhist temples.

In Indonesia, where popular conversion from Hinduism to Islam was more voluntary and peaceful, it is believed that the minaret of the Menara Kudus Mosque, in Java, was originally part of a Hindu temple






here are a few examples of temples converted to mosques. one of these mosques was recently demolished by the Hindus who are planning to reconstruct a temple on its site.  cool

-Ram Janmabhoomi

Ram Janmabhoomi refers to a tract of land in the North Indian city of Ayodhya which is claimed to be the birthplace of the Pagan God, Lord Rama. From 1528 to 1992 this was the site of the Babri Mosque. The mosque was razed in December 6, 1992 by a mob of some 150,000 nationalist Hindus supported by the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS) and the Vishwa Hindu Parishad (VHP), after a political rally developed into a riot despite a commitment to the Indian Supreme Court by the rally organisers that the mosque would not be harmed.

The Sangh Parivaar, along with VHP and the main Indian opposition party, the Bharatiya Janata Party, sought to erect a temple dedicated to Lord Rama at this site. Nobel Laureate novelist V. S. Naipaul has praised Hindu nationalists for "reclaiming India's Hindu heritage". Naipaul added that the destruction of Babri structure was an act of historical balancing and the reclaiming of the Ramjanmabhoomi was a "welcome sign that Hindu pride was re-asserting itself".

The 1986 edition of the Encyclopædia Britannica stated that "Rama’s birthplace is marked by a mosque, erected by the Moghul emperor Babar in 1528 on the site claimed of an earlier temple".

Archaeological excavations at the site by the Archeological Survey of India reported the existence of a 10th century temple. " The report stated that scientific dating indicated human activity at the site as far back to the 17th century BC.

On 30 September 2010, Allahabad High Court ruled that the 2.7 acres disputed land in Ayodhya, on which the Babri Masjid stood before it was demolished on December 6, 1992, will be divided into three parts: the site of the Ramlala idol to Lord Ram, Nirmohi Akhara gets Sita Rasoi and Ram Chabutara, Sunni Wakf Board gets a third. The court also agreed with the ASI report, and considered the mosque to have been predated by a massive Hindu religious structure which was demolished by Babur. This decision paved the way for reconstruction of a temple dedicated to Lord Rama.

the demolished mosque built at the site of a Hindu temple:



-Krishna Janmabhoomi (Mathura)

The great temple of Keshava Rai at Mathura was built by Bir Singh Deo Bundela during Jahangir’s time at a cost of thirty-three lakhs of rupees. The Dehra of Keshava Rai was one of the most magnificent temples ever built in India and enjoyed veneration of the Hindus throughout the land. Prince Dara Shukoh, who was looked upon by the masses as the future Emperor, had presented a carved stone railing to the temple which was installed in front of the deity at some distance; the devotees stood outside this railing to have ‘darshan’ of Keshava Rai. The railing was removed on muslim Emperor, Aurangzeb’s orders in October 1666.

The Dehra of Keshava Rai was demolished in the month of Ramzan, 1080 A.H. (13 January – 11 February 1670) by Aurangzeb’s order. “In a short time, by the great exertion of the officers, the destruction of this strong foundation of infidelity was accomplished and on its site a lofty mosque was built at the expenditure of a large sum”. To the author of Maasir-i-‘Alamigiri, the accomplishment of this “seemingly impossible work was an “instance of the strength of the Emperor’s faith”.

Krishna Janmabhoomi Temple sharing wall with mosque built by Aurangzeb:



-Somnath Temple'

Somnath Temple, located in the Prabhas Kshetra near Veraval in Saurashtra, on the western coast of Gujarat, India, is one of the twelve Jyotirlinga shrines of the God Shiva. Somnath means "The Protector of (the) Moon God". The Somnath Temple is known as "the Shrine Eternal", having been destroyed six times by muslim invaders and rebuilt six times by Hindu rulers.

The first temple of Somnath is said to have existed before the beginning of the common era.

The second temple, built by the Yadava kings of Vallabhi in Gujarat, replaced the first one on the same site around 649 CE.

In 725 CE Junayad, the Arab governor of Sind, sent his armies to destroy the second temple. The Gurjara Pratihara king Nagabhata II constructed the third temple in 815, a large structure of red sandstone.


In 1024 CE, the temple was once again destroyed by Mahmud Ghazni who raided the temple from across the Thar Desert. The temple was rebuilt by the Gujjar Paramara King Bhoj of Malwa and the Solanki king Bhimadev I of Anhilwara, Gujrat (present day Patan) between 1026 and 1042. The wooden structure was replaced by Kumarpal (r.1143-72), who built the temple of stone.

In 1296 CE, the temple was once again destroyed by Sultan Allauddin Khilji's army.According to Taj-ul-Ma'sir of Hasan Nizami, Raja Karan of Gujarat was defeated and forced to flee, "fifty thousand infidels were dispatched to hell by the sword" and "more than twenty thousand slaves, and cattle beyond all calculation fell into the hands of the victors". The temple was rebuilt by Mahipala Deva, the Chudasama king of Saurashtra in 1308 AD and the Linga was installed by his son Khengar sometime between 1326 and 1351 AD.

In 1375 CE, the temple was once again destroyed by Muzaffar Shah I, the Sultan of Gujarat.

In 1451 CE, the temple was once again destroyed by Mahmud Begda, the Sultan of Gujarat.

In 1701 CE, the temple was once again destroyed by Mughal Emperor Aurangzeb. Aurangzeb built a mosque on the site of the Somnath temple, using some columns from the temple, whose Hindu sculptural motifs remained visible.

Later on a joint effort of Peshwa of Pune, Raja Bhonsle of Nagpur, Chhatrapati Bhonsle of Kolhapur, Queen Ahilyabai Holkar of Indore & Shrimant Patilbuwa Shinde of Gwalior rebuilt the temple in 1783 AD at a site adjacent to the ruined temple which was already converted to a mosque.

Zakariya al-Qazwini


A Painting of the tomb of Sultan Mahmud of Ghazni, in 1839-40, with Sandalwood Doors long believed to be the Somnath, which he destroyed in ca 1024, later found to be replicas of the original.
The following extract is from “Wonders of Things Created, and marvels of Things Existing” by Zakariya al-Qazwini, a 13th century Arab geographer. It contains the description of Somnath temple and its destruction:


“Somnath: celebrated city of India, situated on the shore of the sea, and washed by its waves. Among the wonders of that place was the temple in which was placed the idol called Somnath. This idol was in the middle of the temple without anything to support it from below, or to suspend it from above. It was held in the highest honor among the Hindus, and whoever beheld it floating in the air was struck with amazement, whether he was a Musulman or an infidel. The Hindus used to go on pilgrimage to it whenever there was an eclipse of the moon, and would then assemble there to the number of more than a hundred thousand."


“When the Sultan Yaminu-d Daula Mahmud Bin Subuktigin went to wage religious war against India, he made great efforts to capture and destroy Somnat, in the hope that the Hindus would then become Muhammadans. As a result thousands of Hindus were forcibly converted to Islam. He arrived there in the middle of Zi-l k’ada, 416 A.H. (December, 1025 A.D.). “The king looked upon the idol with wonder, and gave orders for the seizing of the spoil, and the appropriation of the treasures. There were many idols of gold and silver and vessels set with jewels, all of which had been sent there by the greatest personages in India. The value of the things found in the temples of the idols exceeded twenty thousand dinars."


Somnath Temple Ruins (1869):


A Painting of the tomb of Sultan Mahmud of Ghazni, in 1839-40, with Sandalwood Doors long believed to be the Somnath, which he destroyed in ca 1024, later found to be replicas of the original:



Restoration of temple after Independence


Before independence, Prabhas Pattan was part of the princely state of Junagadh. After integration of Jungadh in to Union of India, the Deputy Prime Minister of India, Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel came to Junagadh on November 12, 1947 to direct the stabilization of the state by the Indian Army and at the same time ordered the reconstruction of the Somanath temple.

When Sardar Patel, K. M. Munshi and other leaders of the Congress went to Gandhi with the proposal of reconstructing the Somnath temple, Gandhi blessed the move,but suggested that the funds for the construction should be collected from the public and the temple should not be funded by the state. He expressed that he was proud to associate himself to the project of renovation of the temple But soon both Gandhi and Sardar Patel died and the task of reconstruction of the temple continued under K. M. Munshi, who was the Minister for Food and Civil Supplies in the Nehru Government.

The ruins were pulled down in October 1950 and the mosque present at that site was shifted few miles away. In May 1951, Rajendra Prasad, the first President of the Republic of India, invited by K M Munshi, performed the installation ceremony for the temple. Rajendra Prasad said in his address "It is my view that the reconstruction of the Somnath Temple will be complete on that day when not only a magnificent edifice will arise on this foundation, but the mansion of India's prosperity will be really that prosperity of which the ancient temple of Somnath was a symbol.". He added "The Somnath temple signifies that the power of reconstruction is always greater than the power of destruction"

This episode created a serious rift between the then Prime Minister Jawaharlal Nehru, who saw the movement for reconstruction of the temple as an attempt at Hindu revivalism and the President Rajendra Prasad and Union Minister K. M. Munshi, who saw in its reconstruction, the fruits of freedom and the reversal of past injustice done to Hindus.

The present temple, which was built by Patel and Munshi, is managed by Shree Somnath Temple Trust.


Construction of The New Temple:



-Kashi Viswanath (Banaras)

Kashi is one of the most sacred sites in Hindu India and the worship of Shiva as Vishveshvara goes back to ancient times. According to the Puranas, every step taken in Kashi Kshetra has the sanctity of making a pilgrimage to a tirtha. Lord Vishvanatha is regarded as the protector of Kashi and the belief is that one earns great religious merit by having a vision of the deity after having bathed in the Ganges.The temple was demolished several times by Muslim invaders, and was reconstructed again and again by Hindu kings. After destruction of the original temple on the orders of Mughal emperor Aurangzeb's orders, a mosque was built which still stands.

The Gyanvapi Mosque built by Aurangzeb on the original site of the Kashi Vishwanath temple:



-Other references

An inscription at the Quwwat Al-Islam Mosque in Delhi states: This Jamii Masjid built in the months of the year 587 (hijri) by the Amir, the great, the glorious commander of the Army, Qutb-ud-daula wad-din, the Amir-ul-umara Aibeg, the slave of the Sultan, may God strengthen his helpers! The materials of 27 idol temples, on each of which 2,000,000 Deliwal coins had been spent were used in the (construction of) this mosque. However as the inscription depicts, the mosque was built from the material remnants of Hindu temples which was destroyed by muslims.

During the reign of Aurangzeb, tens of thousands of temples were desecrated: their facades and interiors were defaced and their murtis (divine images) looted.In many cases, temples were destroyed entirely; in numerous instances mosques were built on their foundations, sometimes using the same stones. Among the temples Aurangzeb destroyed were two that are most sacred to Hindus, in Varanasi and Mathura. In both cases, he had large mosques built on the sites.

Alberuni in his India writes about the famous temple of Multan:

A famous idol of theirs was that of Multan, dedicated to the sun, ,  When Muhammad Ibn Alkasim Ibn Almunabbih, conquered Multan, he inquired how the town had become so very flourishing and so many treasures had there been accumulated, and then he found out that this idol was the cause, for there came pilgrims from all sides to visit it. Therefore he thought to build a mosque at the same place where the temple once stood. When then the Karmatians occupied Multan, Jalam Ibn Shaiban, the usurper, broke the idol into pieces and killed its priests. ,  When afterwards the blessed Prince Mahmud swept away their rule from those countries, he made again the old mosque the place of the Friday-worship.

An inscription of 1462 A.D.at Jami Masjid at Malan, in Banaskantha District of Gujarat states: The Jami Masjid was built by Khan-I-Azam Ulugh Khan, who suppressed the wretched infidels. He eradicated the idolatrous houses and mine of infidelity, along with the idols with the edge of the sword, and made ready this edifice. He made its walls and doors out of the idols; the back of every stone became the place for prostration of the believer.
Mughal Emperor Jahangir wrote in his Tujuk-i-Jahangiri:

"I am here led to relate that at the city of Banaras a temple had been erected by Rajah Maun Sing, which cost him the sum of nearly thirty-six laks of five methkaly ashrefies. , I made it my plea for throwing down the temple which was the scene of this imposture; and on the spot, with the very same materials, I erected the great mosque, because the very name of Islam was proscribed at Banaras, and with God’s blessing it is my design, if I live, to fill it full with true believers".

Zoroastrian temples

After the Islamic conquest of Persia, Zoroastrian fire temples, with their four axial arch openings, were usually turned into mosques simply by setting a mihrab (prayer niche) on the place of the arch nearest to qibla (the direction of Mecca). This practice is described by numerous Muslim sources; however, the archeological evidence confirming it is still scarce. Zoroastrian temples converted into mosques in such a manner could be found in Bukhara, as well as in and near Istakhr and other Iranian cities.




Parthenon

The Parthenon is a temple on the Athenian Acropolis, Greece, dedicated to the Greek goddess Athena, whom the people of Athens considered their virgin patron. Its construction began in 447 BC when the Athenian Empire was at the height of its power. It was completed in 438 BC, although decorations of the Parthenon continued until 432 BC. It is the most important surviving building of Classical Greece, generally considered the culmination of the development of the Doric order. Its decorative sculptures are considered some of the high points of Greek art. The Parthenon is regarded as an enduring symbol of Ancient Greece and of Athenian democracy and one of the world's greatest cultural monuments.

After the Ottoman Turk conquest, it was turned into a mosque in the early 1460s, and it had a minaret built in it. On 26 September 1687, an Ottoman Turk ammunition dump inside the building was ignited by Venetian bombardment. The resulting explosion severely damaged the Parthenon and its sculptures.

Re: Muhammad Was An Abolitionist. He Purchased The Freedom Of Slaves by LagosShia: 12:59pm On Jan 04, 2012
@Plappville

in my next post i will cite evidence of pagan shrines turned into christian churches and monasteries.

but i want to point out the dishonesty in your citations of places turned into muslim place of worship:the Ka'bah!!!.the Ka'bah just for the record and those who dont know was the first house of worship of the Almighty God built by Abraham on earth even as the pagan arabians themselves would admit that their ancestors (Abraham and Ishmae) built the Ka'bah.the Ka'bah was then turned into a storage for idols when idolatry spread in arabia.

we do not deny at all that with the spread of islam,churches (like the famous Hagia Sophia in Constantinopole) and shrines of pagans were cleansed,renovated and turned in mosques for the worship of Allah.but you are so dishonest to include the Ka'bah as one of those places when the Ka'bah from the beginning was for Islam and the worship of Almighty God,the One and only Creator.obviously your misleading post is aimed at tarnishing the image of the Ka'bah by making it look that muslims are facing the Qiblah which was a "pagan shrine" as you lied.
Re: Muhammad Was An Abolitionist. He Purchased The Freedom Of Slaves by LagosShia: 1:01pm On Jan 04, 2012
[size=28pt]The Taking over of Pagan Temples and Shrines and converting them into Christian Monestaries [/size]
Segment from the book Papal Magic by Simon

Thus, in the first millenium A.D. there was some resistance to the new religion, and this resistance increased exponentially the further the people were from the Church's power base in Rome. To counteract the psychological resistance of the rual pagans, the Church took over pagan shrines and built churches in their place, thereby having the best of both worlds. The pagans continued to worship at the ancient sites, but had to pass through the heavy bronze doors of the Catholic cathedrals to do so. In addition, the pagan calendar was largely coopted for use as Samhain and Saturnalia became, respectively, Halloween and Christmas. The fertility festival of Beltane, April 30, became the Eve of the feast of the Virgin Mother. The pagans still held onto Beltane as their own,,
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From the book Christianity the Origins of a Pagan Religion by Phillipe Walker.





“It might be said that it is always easy to smell the myth in a place where it is difficult to verify its presence. Yet there are perfectly explicit testimonies from indisputable medieval authorities explaining the slow process of conquest that Christianity was forced to develop in a region of the world to which it had no prior claim.


One such account is a letter from Pope Gregory the Great, by way of Abbot Miletius, to Saint Augustine of Canterbury, who was spreading the gospel among the Angles of England at the beginning of the eighth century.1


This correspondence clearly explains the policy the Church had established for converting peoples to Christianity:


“We wish you to inform him that we have been giving careful thought to the affairs of the English and have come to the conclusion that the temples of the idols among that people should on no account be destroyed. The idols are to be destroyed, but the temples themselves are to be aspersed with holy water, altars set up in them, and relics deposited there. For if these temples are well-built, they must be purified from the worship of demons and dedicated to theservice of the true God. In this way, we hope that the people, seeing that their temples are not destroyed, may abandon their error and, flocking more readily to ther accustomed resorts, may come to know and adore the true God. And because they have a custom of sacrificing many oxen to demons, let some other solemnity be substituted in its place, such as a day of dedication or the festivals of the holy martyrs whose relics are enshrined there. On such occasions they might well construct shelters of boughs for themselves around the churches that were once temples, and celebrate the solemnity with devout feasting.2”


This admirable text underscores the persistence of ancient pagan rites and myths during the eighth century and provides one testimony (among many) of the beliefs and customs that the medieval literature of the twelfth or thirteenth century continued to peddle, either candidly or skeptically but with touching insistence. Long ignored or poorly understood, these pagan traces in medieval literature are now available to religious historians and reveal all their mythological importance for a renewed understanding of the culture of the Middle Ages.”






Bibliography:


1- Sancti Gregorii magni registrum epitularum, Turnot 1982 (Corpus Christanorum, series latina, CXLA). See also Dictionnaire d’arch’eolgie chr’etienne et de liturgie, “Paganism.”


http://critiquesofchristianity./2011/08/taking-over-of-pagan-shrines-and.html
Re: Muhammad Was An Abolitionist. He Purchased The Freedom Of Slaves by plappville(f): 12:25am On Jan 05, 2012
Eumm! Nice photos @PaganNja.
@LagosShia, is there anything under islamic control today, that Muhammed angel did not reviewed to him?
People like u can over believe these revelation that contradicts The entire history book.

I ve a thread on the Ka'aba, u can see it if u want to prove a point.

As for the idol temples, that are now churches, i dont know if God dwells in a place like that. If the bible recorded events like that then, its ok, but if not. Man tradition in practoce. I know that the golden Calf was made by the children of Israel for an idol worshiping.

When Moses came and saw that, he didnt conserve it and purify it for Gods use, instead, he distroyed it.
The unseen demons have no hiding place. A place originally for the purpose of God's cannot be changed for Idol.

As the koran states. Which means, Abraham brought them a religion that even the Torah did not record. And after his days, the Meccans turn their back at Abraham's religion and start Idolatry with the Kaaba.
Until Muhammed took over again undecided


This is Pure tales. Back ur claims with history older than the quran or else!?
Re: Muhammad Was An Abolitionist. He Purchased The Freedom Of Slaves by LagosShia: 10:15am On Jan 05, 2012
^^^^^^^

you are so closed minded.

so wasn't the earth and the universe created by God? who permitted the building of idolatry? to us Muslims,the entire entire is referred to as a "masjid" the word commonly translated as "mosque".masjid means a place for prostration to God Almighty.

if the entire earth is our mosque then anywhere a pagan place of worship is built be it a pagan shrine or a trinitarian pagan church or a man-made religion place of worship,those places all belong to God because they are on earth.it is the natural course and divine will for all the earth to be a place of worship to God which is a masjid.so do not be in shock if muslims convert these evil places by cleansing them and purifying them into mosques.afterall whether traditional of men or goats,you christians have done similarly.argue that among yourselves first before lauching an attack on the outside.you are blaming outsider for doing what even your own brothers have done.another case of seeing the sawdust in another's eye while forgetting the plank in yours.hypocrisy!!!
Re: Muhammad Was An Abolitionist. He Purchased The Freedom Of Slaves by plappville(f): 2:45pm On Jan 05, 2012
LagosShia:

^^^^^^^

you are so closed minded.

so wasn't the earth and the universe created by God? who permitted the building of idolatry? to us Muslims,the entire entire is referred to as a "masjid" the word commonly translated as "mosque".masjid means a place for prostration to God Almighty.

if the entire earth is[b] our mosque then anywhere a pagan place of worship is built be it a pagan shrine or a trinitarian pagan church or a man-made religion place of worship,those places all belong to God because they are on earth.it is the natural course and divine will for all the earth to be a place of worship to God which is a masjid.so do not be in shock if muslims convert these evil places by cleansing them and purifying them into mosques.[/b]afterall whether traditional of men or goats,you christians have done similarly.argue that among yourselves first before lauching an attack on the outside.you are blaming outsider for doing what even your own brothers have done.another case of seeing the sawdust in another's eye while forgetting the plank in yours.hypocrisy!!!

Muslims have no purity in them nor in their Mosque/Kabaar . Islam is satanic, how can Muhammed purify something to make it Godly? Is it about saying it, what has proved the presence of God in the Kaaba like in the bible when God s glory came down to fill the temple.


Ezekiel 43

The Glory of the Lord Fills the Temple
43 Then he led me to the gate, the gate facing east. 2 And behold, the glory of the God of Israel was coming from the east. And the sound of his coming was like the sound of many waters, and the earth shone with his glory. 3 And the vision I saw was just like the vision that I had seen when he[a] came to destroy the city, and just like the vision that I had seen by the Chebar canal. And I fell on my face. 4 As the glory of the Lord entered the temple by the gate facing east, 5 the Spirit lifted me up and brought me into the inner court; and behold, the glory of the Lord filled the temple
Re: Muhammad Was An Abolitionist. He Purchased The Freedom Of Slaves by plappville(f): 10:36pm On Nov 30, 2016
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