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Gej And All Fec Members To Donate 30% Of Their Salary by OZONE123(m): 3:38am On Jan 06, 2012
President Goodluck and all FEC Members are hereby advised to donate 30% of their monthly salary for a period of 1yr
to generate fund to improve infrastructure.
They are to present a concise infrastructural development report for the whole sum of money at the end of 2012.
If this policy and the fund management sounds good to all naija,we can now accept "a partial subsidy removal" - like 30-40%.
No sane government will yank off 100% subsidy all in the name of improving what we know you wouldn't do.
Reduce the cost of governance first!!!!!!!
Remove some fringe benefits that come with political offices.
Let the political office holders begin to pay for their daily meals from their salary as it's being done in advance countries.
God Bless Nigeria!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Re: Gej And All Fec Members To Donate 30% Of Their Salary by Nobody: 5:13am On Jan 06, 2012
@Poster, I fully agree with your motion.  Those of you supporting the removal of fuel subsidy are nothing but traitors. I wonder how many of you are even aware of the fact that the monthly salary of a Federal legislator in Nigeria is more than that of US President Barack Obama.  And 25% of the Nigerian annual budget is spent on salaries, benefits and other expenditures accrued by our so-called Federal Executive council. Considering this senseless misplacement of priorities plus the cantankerous corruption in the govt, why should there be adequate money to finance social development project in the country in the first place? As if this gross injustice is not enough, they are blaming the lack of funds on the only last govt subsidy (fuel) left for the poor masses.

Some educated illiterates in support of fuel subsidy removal often try to relate our situation with other developed countries, not knowing that the minimum monthly wages in many of those countries are even more than the annual salary of most Nigerians, how silly can one be to compare "apples" with not even oranges, but with "kulikuli" .

What the sensible masses are saying is that the problem (lack of fund for social projects) is due to the rotten system of governance.   Removing fuel subsidy and even increasing fuel cost 100 fold would not bring social development as long as GEJ's "chop I chop" system remains . An old wine may be put in a new bottle, but its still an old wine.

GEJ and his FEC should lead by example by first removing/cutting the incessant "chop I chop" subsidies they enjoy, before having the audacity to debate whether or not to  remove fuel subsidy for the masses. Saying fuel subsidy is the reason why there's no enough money to finance social projects is treasonable and a great affront on the sensibility of Nigerian masses.
Re: Gej And All Fec Members To Donate 30% Of Their Salary by efisher(m): 5:58am On Jan 06, 2012
I wish they could read this and take an action like this. It would be an easy way to wiggle out of the current situation unscathed.
Re: Gej And All Fec Members To Donate 30% Of Their Salary by nuclearboy(m): 6:25am On Jan 06, 2012
grin. What would 30% of their salaries do when allowances alone exceed one Billion? Who would trust that an announced "donation" is not followed by a quietly applied increase in "allowances"?

Way its going, this seems not a quarrel about fuel subsidy but one about corruption, wrong priorities and greed in high places!

You want a proposal? Okay, let them reduce national recurrent expenditure from 72% to 45% across board! Let the NASS reduce their total pay package by 70%! 30% of at least 20 million each is still 3 million per month. That is enough for "public SERVANTS". The pesident can bloody well feed himself and family and there is no frigging need for every dunce in govt to have an official trained with Nigerian funds, stand behind him always - let those policemen go to work as detectives etc rather than as ADCs.

Govt uses too much fuel on escort cars. Let ministers pay for their fuel and only the president and VP be fueled by the country. And 10 cars is enough for ANY motorcade rather than dozens and 5 mile long road blocks.

When such as these are seen, the man on the street will feel easy but right now, gej supporters feel they have been lied to and cheated and won't listen to "palliatives" such as a fake 30% "donation" out of Billions
Re: Gej And All Fec Members To Donate 30% Of Their Salary by MarcAnthon(m): 6:59am On Jan 06, 2012
nuclearboy:

grin. What would 30% of their salaries do when allowances alone exceed one Billion? Who would trust that an announced "donation" is not followed by a quietly applied increase in "allowances"?

Way its going, this seems not a quarrel about fuel subsidy but one about corruption, wrong priorities and greed in high places!

You want a proposal? Okay, let them reduce national recurrent expenditure from 72% to 45% across board! Let the NASS reduce their total pay package by 70%! 30% of at least 20 million each is still 3 million per month. That is enough for "public SERVANTS". The pesident can bloody well feed himself and family and there is no frigging need for every dunce in govt to have an official trained with Nigerian funds, stand behind him always - let those policemen go to work as detectives etc rather than as ADCs.

Govt uses too much fuel on escort cars. Let ministers pay for their fuel and only the president and VP be fueled by the country. And 10 cars is enough for ANY motorcade rather than dozens and 5 mile long road blocks.

When such as these are seen, the man on the street will feel easy but right now, gej supporters feel they have been lied to and cheated and won't listen to "palliatives" such as a fake 30% "donation" out of Billions

That is what it has always been about bruv. The clowns on here come charging as if they alone know the benefits of deregulation forgetting that it has never been about subsidy removal but about corruption in government circles.

You do not tell your followers to make sacrifice while you're feeding fat on their agonies. At any rate it is not the masses that brought about the porous system that permits the oil sector operators to rip us all off. Government's inability to checkmate that is the reason the amt for subsidy skyrocketed by over 200% within the space of one year. No one has cared to explain to us why. They are too lazy to deal with this but quick to transfer the brunt on the masses.

And then they start promising to make Nigeria heaven on earth with #1.3 trillion. We'll be fools to believe them. Government is like a man complaining of not be able to take care of his family because he pays tithe (10% of his income to God). Ask him what is he doing with the remaining 90%. If a man can not take care of his family with 90% of his income, therefore 10% increment will not make any difference

Like I have been saying, you do not reward a thieving manager with more money to squander. If they haven't done anything good with all the monies we've had all these years, it isn't subsidy money that will make any difference.

Let them drastically reduce the cost of governance by taking pay cuts, cutting down on useless positions 'to pay the boys' and merging ministries and parastatals. Cut the overheads, plug the loopholes and tackle corruption. The savings alone from all that will fund the subsidy with generous change.

Let me give you a scenario:

The Nigerian engineering graduate at best (and I'm being overly generous here) earns an average of #100k/month.
X12 = #1.2M = $7,500/annum
The average American engineering grad earns at worst $50,000/annum.

PLS COMPARE BOTH: RATIO 6.67:1 (American:Nigerian)

What happens with our politicians?

Average Nigerian Senator (not senate president o) takes home $1.4M/annum
Average American Senator $174,000/annum

PLS COMPARE BOTH: RATIO 1:8 (American:Nigerian)

So you can see why our system is not workable. They (our so-called leaders) are not living in the realities of the Nigerian economy that is why they have no right to tell us about any economic principles we must obey.

HE WHO MUST LEAD MUST DO SO WITH FACTS BUT ALSO WITH HEART.

Reduce the waste, build refineries, improve basic infrastructure WITH WHAT WE ARE PRESENTLY EARNING then come back and tell us about deregulation and we just might listen to you. In the absence of all that we'll pretend you aren't saying anything! FOOLS!
Re: Gej And All Fec Members To Donate 30% Of Their Salary by efisher(m): 7:07am On Jan 06, 2012
@MarcAnthon, that was a brilliant post.
Re: Gej And All Fec Members To Donate 30% Of Their Salary by MarcAnthon(m): 7:13am On Jan 06, 2012
^^^ Thanks bruv.
Re: Gej And All Fec Members To Donate 30% Of Their Salary by nuclearboy(m): 7:23am On Jan 06, 2012
^^ I really liked the way you presented that, @markanthon

@efisher:

Thought you were expecting people to start dying before accepting there is a problem. Seems your side believes the other side daft and bereft of sincerity when our posts above show what the truth is. Think about it. As I just read, Sambo will spend 45 million on newspapers this year. That's 360 newspapers daily! How many are there in Nigeria? How then can that man ask a starving family to sacrifice? Sacrifice what? Life??
Re: Gej And All Fec Members To Donate 30% Of Their Salary by Nobody: 7:25am On Jan 06, 2012
sad

Re: Gej And All Fec Members To Donate 30% Of Their Salary by Nobody: 7:35am On Jan 06, 2012
sad

Re: Gej And All Fec Members To Donate 30% Of Their Salary by efisher(m): 7:40am On Jan 06, 2012
@nuclearboy, I am one person who can look at things from many different perspectives and respect intelligent contributions even when at variance with my stance. As he said, the key issue is not about subsidy removal. Those educated enough know it is a huge waste. Those on the street don't know that. The main point he has brought to the fore is the great divide between the political class and the masses. We should think of ways to solve that problem.

My view is that subsidy and expensive governance are 2 totally different problems. Subsidy removal is not "a silver bullet" to solve ALL our problems as Sanusi said but it is definitely an easier path for the FG to take. I don't see why we should keep postponing it for later. On the other hand, our expensive government needs to be checked and I think that's where we should direct the protests to.
Re: Gej And All Fec Members To Donate 30% Of Their Salary by Nobody: 7:40am On Jan 06, 2012
This govt needs total overhauling.
Re: Gej And All Fec Members To Donate 30% Of Their Salary by nuclearboy(m): 8:03am On Jan 06, 2012
@efisher:

Whist totally appreciating what you have said, I think you should also consider that corruption is likely the reason why subsidy has become a problem today! We all watched and saw Billions upon billions change hands to ensure election victory last year. We all have seen and heard cases of mind-boggling profligacy and mindless stealing! Why is it after such a ridiculous excuse for an election that subsidy went up?

Did you not read that the first 6 months were normal? Why only after the "election" did we start using 55mill liters up from 27mill? Did everyone go out and buy 2 cars + 2 generators in that month? There are "primary" issues and secondary ones! What we see today which people are complaining about is that corruption INFLATED the true cost AND IF NOT DEALT with first, it will equally consume any "savings" which by the way, the man on the street is now paying for!

Give this government 200 Trillion dollars and in 5 months, you will hear promises and excuses. Their precedences and history shows that. That's why people are angry. Show that probity is now the order and people will back down
Re: Gej And All Fec Members To Donate 30% Of Their Salary by Ymodulus: 8:06am On Jan 06, 2012
NUCLEAR BOY!!!!! Please go remove that word donate. Its not a charity. Its a must
Re: Gej And All Fec Members To Donate 30% Of Their Salary by nuclearboy(m): 8:09am On Jan 06, 2012
^^

Abeg no vex O - I no fit face Nigeria's anger!

No be me call am "donate" - just wanted to clarify issues
Re: Gej And All Fec Members To Donate 30% Of Their Salary by Beaf: 8:13am On Jan 06, 2012
efisher:

@nuclearboy, I am one person who can look at things from many different perspectives and respect intelligent contributions even when at variance with my stance. As he said, the key issue is not about subsidy removal. Those educated enough know it is a huge waste. Those on the street don't know that. The main point he has brought to the fore is the great divide between the political class and the masses. We should think of ways to solve that problem.

My view is that subsidy and expensive governance are 2 totally different problems. Subsidy removal is not "a silver bullet" to solve ALL our problems as Sanusi said but it is definitely an easier path for the FG to take. I don't see why we should keep postponing it for later. On the other hand, our expensive government needs to be checked and I think that's where we should direct the protests to.

QED!

It is threads like this that nobody can fault and everyone can connect with.
I will personally join a protest against govt wastage and most especially, against the crinimally stratospheric wages of NASS members.

Perhaps, we all need to get together and hammer out an abiding philosophy of how this country should work, then hit the streets with focus and direction to force through the necessary constitutional changes.

I don't want to demonstrate, because I am being made to sacrifice for my kids, in fact nobody should need to be told to do that; so the anti-subsidy protests are annoying to me. However, there are a whole heap of fundamental issues to do with our national architecture that we should all be ready to hit the streets and burn the place down for. Several of us have made loud calls about the PIB, true federalism, land use act, an equitable citizen-state contract etc but it has all fallen on dry ground.
What is wrong with Nigerians?
Re: Gej And All Fec Members To Donate 30% Of Their Salary by Beaf: 8:21am On Jan 06, 2012
nuclearboy:

@efisher:

Whist totally appreciating what you have said, I think you should also consider that corruption is likely the reason why subsidy has become a problem today! We all watched and saw Billions upon billions change hands to ensure election victory last year. We all have seen and heard cases of mind-boggling profligacy and mindless stealing! Why is it after such a ridiculous excuse for an election that subsidy went up?

Did you not read that the first 6 months were normal? Why only after the "election" did we start using 55mill liters up from 27mill? Did everyone go out and buy 2 cars + 2 generators in that month? There are "primary" issues and secondary ones! What we see today which people are complaining about is that corruption INFLATED the true cost AND IF NOT DEALT with first, it will equally consume any "savings" which by the way, the man on the street is now paying for!

Give this government 200 Trillion dollars and in 5 months, you will hear promises and excuses. Their precedences and history shows that. That's why people are angry. Show that probity is now the order and people will back down

Clearing up the corruption around the fuel subsidy would have been like attempting to clear the corruption in the police force.
Think about it, is it easier to convince the police to stop taking "roger" than to sack all the phuckers and start afresh? That is what has happened with the subsidy thing.

The mafia's tentacles were everywhere poor GEJ looked. They are in govt, some are in the opposition, in the army, police, customs, ports authority, NNPC, unions etc.
The only way to deal with such a monumental level of corruption was toss the entire edifice in the bin and start afresh. The average Nigerian is incredibly corrupt, and that is the problem anyone dealing with the various mafia's has to face.

PHCN and the generator mafia are the next to die the same way.
Re: Gej And All Fec Members To Donate 30% Of Their Salary by nuclearboy(m): 8:25am On Jan 06, 2012
^^

Do you then agree that it was profligacy under GEJ that brought us to this sorry state?

Do you accept that a reasoning government should first remove the forest in its eyes before complaining about specks in the publics eyes?

Does it make sense for Jonathan to get subsidized to the tune of billions whist those who voted him are starving?

Given that you accept above that it is corruption, whose role is it to tackle that? Mine, yours or Jonathan? Clue - who gets paid for that?? Second clue - when you fail at fulfilling your constitutional role, who should be blamed?

Should Jonathan have one special assistant on "media" and another on "new media"? When does "ancient media", "post-Christ media", "machiavellian media" and "pre-independence media" get their own representatives? Is it fair they being marginalised?

Truth is simply - "e get as e be" - all the brouhaha resulted from government corruption.

The day you accept the truth and tell it to Jonathan, you'll be surprised how "free" you be feel!
Re: Gej And All Fec Members To Donate 30% Of Their Salary by Beaf: 8:31am On Jan 06, 2012
^
Dude, don't put words in my mouth. I love honest debate, thank you.
Nigeria did not become what it is with GEJ. It is the way some of you blame Jonathan for things that started long before he took office that makes many of us believe that this protest is driven by dark ulterior motives that are either political, or ethnically or religiously bigotted.

Abuja has always been profligate and honesty is a virtue.
Re: Gej And All Fec Members To Donate 30% Of Their Salary by nuclearboy(m): 8:37am On Jan 06, 2012
I love your response! "Abuja has ALWAYS" been profligate", right? So it should continue and worsen? Do you remember the campaign slogans? "FRESH AIR" & "TRANSFORMATION", right? What you just said is that he willfully LIED, deliberately fooled everyone that he would MAKE A DIFFERENCE knowing it was going to be "same no ni", ehn? How does that stack up with our hopes?

Plus, Beaf, this matter is all about leadership by example! When Idiagbon whipped a few, the others got into line! if Bankole, etc were in jail for 150 years WITH hard labor right now, things would be different! If GEJ removed his head from otedola's arsehole and insisted things go the right way, things would be different! If he kicked Maduekwe to the curb and insisted NNPC show probity, things would be different! If he didn't have ludicrous positions almost resembling "assistant on doing number 1 and number 2 in the toilet", things would be different!

Expand these to your hearts delight!

So there!
Re: Gej And All Fec Members To Donate 30% Of Their Salary by Knight1(m): 8:39am On Jan 06, 2012
clicking the "like" button for nuclearboy
Re: Gej And All Fec Members To Donate 30% Of Their Salary by Beaf: 8:53am On Jan 06, 2012
nuclearboy:

I love your response! "Abuja has ALWAYS" been profligate", right? So it should continue and worsen? Do you remember the campaign slogans? "FRESH AIR" & "TRANSFORMATION", right? What you just said is that he willfully LIED, deliberately fooled everyone that he would MAKE A DIFFERENCE knowing it was going to be "same no ni", ehn? How does that stack up with our hopes?

Plus, Beaf, this matter is all about leadership by example! When Idiagbon whipped a few, the others got into line! if Bankole, etc were in jail for 150 years WITH hard labor right now, things would be different! If GEJ removed his head from otedola's arsehole and insisted things go the right way, things would be different! If he kicked Maduekwe to the curb and insisted NNPC show probity, things would be different! If he didn't have ludicrous positions almost resembling "assistant on doing number 1 and number 2 in the toilet", things would be different!

Expand these to your hearts delight!

So there!

So, you think GEJ can cure 50 years of fuckry in under a year, while carrying the sins of those before him like Jesus?
The more his opponents make such unfair and insincere demands, the more his supporters feel they are driven by some form of bigotry.

It is the misunderstanding people have of GEJ that has got them into this protest quandary. Because GEJ smiles easily, the average Nigerian, who is an over aggressive type, thinks they can toy with him and that he got everything by luck.
With this subsidy removal, many are learning a new thing or two about that, and the man is still going right on smiling.

Transformation takes time and is painful, even more so in a democracy.

Your comparison of GEJ to Idiagbon is quite strange. Idiagbon was a maximum military dictator who came to power by the barrel of the gun, GEJ is the President with a democratic mandate. There is absolutely no basis for comparison, and nobody can be arbitrarily jailed for 150 years by GEJ. The law just does not work that way, a dictator can order anything he wants and it would get done, but that would earn any democrat a jail term on leaving office (if he has immunity).
In any event, Idiagbon and his lawless crew a strong part of why Nigeria is a chotic soup today, without laws and strong institutions.

You need to get acquainted with the law and the constitution, because your arguments are far out.
Re: Gej And All Fec Members To Donate 30% Of Their Salary by montelik(m): 8:57am On Jan 06, 2012
Any attempt by d govt d runaway from dealing with d corruption in govt by shortcuts will never solve d problem. This whole subsidy wastage and cabal issue was brought about by governments own corruption, greed and inefficiencies. Now rather than tackle d root cause, they want a quick fix to avoid d problem they created. But like when you go to d doctor, if you only treat a symptom not d disease, na die you go still because of your illness is still there getting progressively worse.
Re: Gej And All Fec Members To Donate 30% Of Their Salary by Xfactoria: 9:05am On Jan 06, 2012
Beaf:

[b]Clearing up the corruption around the fuel subsidy would have been like attempting to clear the corruption in the police force.[/b]Think about it, is it easier to convince the police to stop taking "roger" than to sack all the phuckers and start afresh? That is what has happened with the subsidy thing.

The mafia's tentacles were everywhere poor GEJ looked. They are in govt, some are in the opposition, in the army, police, customs, ports authority, NNPC, unions etc.
The only way to deal with such a monumental level of corruption was toss the entire edifice in the bin and start afresh. The average Nigerian is incredibly corrupt, and that is the problem anyone dealing with the various mafia's has to face.

PHCN and the generator mafia are the next to die the same way.

Guy, I do not agree with this. You only need to make scapegoats of certain bigwigs and others will sit tight. If GEJ wants to do it, he can do it. He should land some people in PPPRA, NNPC and Customs in Jail first and see whether the corruption will stop or not.

Don't come here to spew craps! It is the political will to deal with corruption that is lacking. Let your boss address government's irresponsibility in this aspect first.
Re: Gej And All Fec Members To Donate 30% Of Their Salary by nuclearboy(m): 9:08am On Jan 06, 2012
@Beaf:

grin

Dictators? LOL - well, even the most "maximum" of them all didn't dare Nigeria like this! And iron-man OBJ also was more careful! The last few days have shown GEJ is the biggest dictator of all - killing peaceful protesters, damning the constitution in ignoring the NASS, ignoring 160million people etc

I am the last person to expect GEJ to change all things in a year because I actually didn't support him STARTING from the day Dokpesi joined his campaign team - eat with satan suggests you are demonic (to me)! Prior to that, I'd readily kill on GEJ's behalf!

All I want as a person is that GEJ treats the vultures around him like he treats the man on the street! I suspect that's what most want! Plus an obvious commitment to a reduction in waste, a respect for "ordinary" people and a respect for law would be nice.

However, your "democrat" has gone outside the NASS in implementing this policy, has killed protesters, has lied to us openly (even Abacha avoided that) etc! Abeg tell me who the more maximum is amongst them all!

I like you dude! Sharp, erudite, very verbose and truly loyal (maybe to your stomach if your detractors are believed) but you have one problem - you assign to yourself only the concept of intelligence and understanding! Plus believe it or not, critics are no enemies! If GEJ follows our suggestions, history will praise HIM and not US. But us all will enjoy it - that is our only profit.
Re: Gej And All Fec Members To Donate 30% Of Their Salary by nuclearboy(m): 9:18am On Jan 06, 2012
By the way, there is NO protest quandary for anyone except GEJ himself and cohorts! He it is that has the problem of having to find a solution.

No mean task and I don't envy him. grin
Re: Gej And All Fec Members To Donate 30% Of Their Salary by 1025: 9:30am On Jan 06, 2012
Clearing up the corruption around the fuel subsidy would have been like attempting to clear the corruption in the police force.
Think about it, is it easier to convince the police to stop taking "roger" than to sack all the phuckers and start afresh? That is what has happened with the subsidy thing.

The mafia's tentacles were everywhere poor GEJ looked. They are in govt, some are in the opposition, in the army, police, customs, ports authority, NNPC, unions etc.
The only way to deal with such a monumental level of corruption was toss the entire edifice in the bin and start afresh. The average Nigerian is incredibly corrupt, and that is the problem anyone dealing with the various mafia's has to face.

PHCN and the generator mafia are the next to die the same way.

@beaf,
if your traditional ruler crowns a known thief with a chieftaincy title, what does it signify? jonathan and pdp are so corrupt that they don't see anything wrong in our nigerian police which u are using as example. a couple of weeks back, we all saw jonathan gave a national award to the inspector general of police. what was the award for? corruption i guess. the wife of our saint jonathan has a case file pending with efcc. we know his achievements in bayelsa.
if only jonathan and sambo can eat food of N1B in a year, then multiply same with 160 million nigerians unless u are saying feeding now depends on position.
what is wrong in fixing our refineries and have the subsidy die a natural death? are you aware that the estimated funds likely to be raised from the fuel subsidy has been shared among the 3 tiers of govt leaving only 30% for the committee.
what we have all over nigeria today is war as everybody is fighting anybody and u think jonathan is still the right man.
how can anyone think good of a govt that is not punishing anyone over corruption in a very corrupt nation.
i was in cote d'ivoire in 2009 when they increase their pump price, the masses refused but the ministers offered certain percentages of their various salaries to calm the situation. why can't we see same here where the president and his ministers are asking us to make sacrifices? why can't jonathan lead by examples?
Re: Gej And All Fec Members To Donate 30% Of Their Salary by Bawss1(m): 9:32am On Jan 06, 2012
Beaf:

So, you think GEJ can cure 50 years of fuckry in in under a year, while carrying the sins of those before him like Jesus?
[/b]The more his opponents make such unfair and insincere demands, the more his supporters feel they are driven by some form of bigotry.

GEJ has not shown any signs that he is seriously committed to dealing with corruption! His govt continues in the same path of extravagance and waste which his predecessors have been accused of. All we have heard are promises of change and transformation while the situation worsens. That alone counts as a fail. . .

Now we are told to give him 6 months. I for one would personally want to wait for 6 months to see what changes this subsidy removal will bring and how the lives of ordinary Nigerians will improve,[b] if at all
, but then we can all recall the lofty aims with which organizations like the NDDC were set up and measure that against the so called progress they have achieved.
Re: Gej And All Fec Members To Donate 30% Of Their Salary by lagbaja(m): 9:37am On Jan 06, 2012
Your proposal will not address the smuggling of fuel across the borders. Full deregulation is the solution.What Nigerians should be fighting for is social security. Government should take the bio-metric database of Nigerians. Convert the subsidy to Payment of allowance to the unemployment. this will have a chain effect of creating employment and fostering the production sector because it will increase the purchasing power. this salary will not be in cash but will be in form of mill tickets and housing subsidies, so that it will not be spent on imported goods.
Re: Gej And All Fec Members To Donate 30% Of Their Salary by Beaf: 9:41am On Jan 06, 2012
nuclearboy:

@Beaf:

grin

Dictators? LOL - well, even the most "maximum" of them all didn't dare Nigeria like this! And iron-man OBJ also was more careful! The last few days have shown GEJ is the biggest dictator of all - killing peaceful protesters, damning the constitution in ignoring the NASS, ignoring 160million people etc

I am the last person to expect GEJ to change all things in a year because I actually didn't support him STARTING from the day Dokpesi joined his campaign team - eat with satan suggests you are demonic (to me)! Prior to that, I'd readily kill on GEJ's behalf!

All I want as a person is that GEJ treats the vultures around him like he treats the man on the street! I suspect that's what most want! Plus an obvious commitment to a reduction in waste, a respect for "ordinary" people and a respect for law would be nice.

However, your "democrat" has gone outside the NASS in implementing this policy, has killed protesters, has lied to us openly (even Abacha avoided that) etc! Abeg tell me who the more maximum is amongst them all!

I like you dude! Sharp, erudite, very verbose and truly loyal (maybe to your stomach if your detractors are believed) but you have one problem - you assign to yourself only the concept of intelligence and understanding! Plus believe it or not, critics are no enemies! If GEJ follows our suggestions, history will praise HIM and not US. But us all will enjoy it - that is our only profit.

Guy, GEJ has acted perfectly within the constitution, that is why any cries of illegality are weak and faltering. It is the Presidents sole right to determine almost a 100% of how revenue is shared and GEJ has issued a decree.

As for your accusations against GEJ, it is the fad to accuse him of creating Lucifer. So, carry go! cheesy

That power of the President was actually meant to serve another purpose. Nigeria was not designed for you and I, but for the ex-generals that ruled before; they designed the country in such a way that they would always have a long straw attached to the national jugular, to suck us dry. If you doubt it, take a look at all the ex-generals and study where they are, you will learn a lot about your country and in what ways we are enslaved; it will make you gag and wanna kill somebody.
It is a difficult job to take that whole edifice down, but GEJ has quietly plotted his route, he has manfully fired his first salvo's and he will win. cool

It takes time and guile to catch a monkey. GEJ only needs time and he has guile; he has told us that we will see results in 6 months and I want to give that chance.

By the way, thanks for the kind words. My detractors say what they say, because they always develop a mental limp and verbal stagger when faced with fleetfooted, hardpunching intellectual agility. Nothing is more dangerous, than a cornered animal, it will apply dirty tricks. . . You know the drill! grin
Re: Gej And All Fec Members To Donate 30% Of Their Salary by Beaf: 9:55am On Jan 06, 2012
Bawss1:

GEJ has not shown any signs that he is seriously committed to dealing with corruption! His govt continues in the same path of extravagance and waste which his predecessors have been accused of. All we have heard are promises of change and transformation while the situation worsens. That alone counts as a fail. . .

Now we are told to give him 6 months. I for one would personally want to wait for 6 months to see what changes this subsidy removal will bring and how the lives of ordinary Nigerians will improve, if at all, but then we can all recall the lofty aims with which organizations like the NDDC were set up and measure that against the so called progress they have achieved.

I will tell you the biggest secret you already know. GEJ is from a minority group, yet this country was built to spit on minorities, and after the war, the SE (lets be candid about the structural deficiencies of our country).
What do you imagine a man from a minority group would need to gain power in a country like ours? Think about it and a lot of your assertions would fall to pieces.

GEJ payed his dues and acted the part to gain full power, now he has it and is weilding it. So, please lets watch and participate in the transformation of this country.
He might not provide every last one of our demands, but by 2015, this country would be a totally different place.

You are right to be skeptical about rubbish like the NDDC that is little more than a cash jamboree, it is normal considering our past. But, how many Presidents can you recall that have staked their office and political career on a principle for the betterment of you and I? That is what GEJ is doing right now; if there is any reason to trust him, that is it.
Re: Gej And All Fec Members To Donate 30% Of Their Salary by nuclearboy(m): 10:00am On Jan 06, 2012
Decrees? That is NOT democracy, friend!

And I want us to go back to reality - the "primary" purposes of government are WELFARE & SECURITY. Hunger is not a sign of welfare.

Bottom line - govt should show its sympathy by leading as it ought. Until then, all they say is gist - if its good for us to sacrifice, same goes for them

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