if christians can do the following two things I am ready to become "christian" and adopt the denomination,sect and pastor of the NL member who gives me the answers.

1.) Show me where Jesus in the bible said we should practice a religion called Christianity.

2.) Show me where Jesus said we should either worship him or accept him as "a god" or "God".

if you fail to provide me explicit answers to both questions,then know that you are following an invented and man-made religion that Jesus did not order for.so your beliefs are based on your misinterpretations and what you made of Jesus's teachings and not what Jesus (as) ordered you to do.

and common,you missionaries on this forum waste hours attacking Islam and provoking muslims (more than you preach christianity and its different beliefs) to prick Muslims.so you can answer these two easy questions and gain me all for your own version of Jesus (as) and your church.

in addition,i would give anyone who answers the questions a gift of 100,000 Naira to show appreciation.

LagosShia:

if christians can do the following two things I am ready to become "christian" and adopt the denomination,sect and pastor of the NL member who gives me the answers.

1.) Show me where Jesus in the bible said we should practice a religion called Christianity.

2.) Show me where Jesus said we should either worship him or accept him as "a god" or "God".

if you fail to provide me explicit answers to both questions,then know that you are following an invented and man-made religion that Jesus did not order for.so your beliefs are based on your misinterpretations and what you made of Jesus's teachings and not what Jesus (as) ordered you to do.

and common,you missionaries on this forum waste hours attacking Islam and provoking muslims (more than you preach christianity and its different beliefs) to prick Muslims.so you can answer these two easy questions and gain me all for your own version of Jesus (as) and your church.

in addition,i would give anyone who answers the questions a gift of 100,000 Naira to show appreciation.

Okay, I'll answer. I hope you have the 100,000 naira ready.
To question 1, Jesus never said anything about people practicing Christianity.
To question 2, Jesus never said explicitly that people should worship him only that they make their requests to Jehovah through him.

I'll only accept cash or bank deposits. Thank you.

I wil giv u answer 4rm your koran, Note christianity mins folowas of christ,  Pls when next u ar reading your koran, stop usind hadith and other koran interp retation, since u can undstand arabic, interprit it your self, ok. Koran 3.55. It is writen that alah said, i wil make those who folo u JESUS superior to those who fail to believe u until d resurrection,2.the koran says jesus is blameless fautless and most pure among mankind, and jesus neva sin.but mohamed is a sinful man wit hatred, convating pple wives.koran 19.19,koran 2.253.(so are we to folo JESUS OR mohamed ok chose who to folo, jesus neva force pple to sarv him bt mohamed did even by kilin u if u refuse.).i have many tins to say nd write,bt am using a phone browser my thumb is tired typing, d only tin i want u to do 4 me who wil u choose JESUS or MOHAMMED.

thehomer:

Okay, I'll answer. I hope you have the 100,000 naira ready.
To question 1, Jesus never said anything about people practicing Christianity.
To question 2, Jesus never said explicitly that people should worship him only that they make their requests to Jehovah through him.

I'll only accept cash or bank deposits. Thank you.

Oga,you are not a christian!

secondly you can win the prizes if you show me!

drstan:

I wil not giv u answer 4rm your koran, Note christianity mins folowas of christ, Pls when next u ar reading your koran, stop usind hadith and other koran interp retation, since u can undstand arabic, interprit it your self, ok.

answer my questions.
you are only pulling redherrings and diverting us.

Koran 3.55. It is writen that alah said, i wil make those who folo u JESUS superior to those who fail to believe u until d resurrection,

and if you think those who follow Jesus are yourself (christians),then think again and understand what the verse 3:55 is saying:

Sura 3 Aya 55 to 55


[Shakir 3:55] And when Allah said: O Isa, I am going to terminate the period of your stay (on earth) and cause you to ascend unto Me and purify you of those who disbelieve and make those who follow you above those who disbelieve to the day of resurrection; then to Me shall be your return, so l will decide between you concerning that in which you differed.

[Pooya/Ali Commentary 3:55]
As stated in verses 45 to 47 of this surah (please refer to their commentary) the birth of Isa was a miracle. His departure from this world to the heaven, alive, was also a miracle. It is stated in Minhaj al Sadiqin that Isa was kept in custody in a room during the night following which he was to be crucified in the morning. At daybreak, Judas the hypocrite companion of Isa, who had betrayed him to the Roman soldiers, went into the room to escort Isa to the place of crucifixion. As soon as he entered the room, he was miraculously transformed into a person who resembled Isa. When he came out of the room the Roman soldiers took him to the cross and crucified him, in spite of his loud and desperate protestations.

In Badshah Husain's English translation of the Holy Quran, Sale is quoted on page 14 of Vol. 11. as under:

"It is supposed by several that this story was an original of Mohammad's but they are certainly mistaken, for several sectarians held the same opinion, long before his time. The Basilidians (Iraneus I.I.C 23 and C. Epiphan Haeres 24 num III) in the very beginning of Christianity, denied that Christ himself suffered, but that Simon the Cyraracean was crucified in his place. The Corinthians before them and the Carpocratians next (to name no more of those who affirmed Jesus to have been a mere man) did believe the same thing; it was not himself, but one of his followers very like him that was crucified. Photius tells us that he read a book entitled "The Journeys of the Apostles", relating the acts of Peter, John, Andrew, Thomas and Paul, and among other things contained therein, this was one, that Christ was not crucified, but another in his stead, and that therefore he laughed at his crucifiers (Photius Bible Cod 114, col. 291) or those who thought they had crucified him (Tolands' Nazrenus p. 17 and c.)"

The Jewish plot to kill Isa was prevented by the best of planners, the almighty Allah.

Tawaffa is to fulfil a promise. Inni mutawaffika means "I will complete your term". The word may mean death or to take away. It has been used in both its meanings in the Quran. The Ahmadi commentator, to deny the miraculous escape of Isa from being crucified, misinterprets the word tawaffa as Isa's physical death. The Holy Prophet and the holy Imams have said that Isa will come down again from the heaven before the day of resurrection and offer prayers behind Imam Muhammad al Mahdi, the last Imam in the progeny of the Holy Prophet.

"And set those who follow you (victorious) above those who disbelieve", refers to those Christians who accepted Isa as a true prophet of Allah, followed his teachings, and believed in his prophecy about the advent of the Holy Prophet. See Genesis 17: 7, 8, 20; Acts 3: 22 to 25; John 1: 19 to 21; 14: 16, 17, 26; 15:26; 16:7 to 13. The true believers in Isa, were Muslims. Those who believe in Isa as a son of God or God are infidels.

Aqa Mahdi Puya says:

The incoherent recording of the events of Isa's crucifixion, burial and resurrection in the New Testament, proves that the whole story had been fabricated to suit the doctrines of the Christian church. Paul had distorted the true faith of Isa to accommodate Roman paganism. Their story should be judged in the light of the following analysis:

(1) Those who came to arrest Isa, in the darkness of night, had never seen his face.

(2) It was Judas who, standing beside Isa, identified him.

(3) Judas' features were very much like Isa's.

(4) As the light was very dim, their faces could not be seen clearly.

(5) The soldiers were afraid of the people, who certainly would have started a struggle at any moment and made their task difficult, so they were in a great hurry.

(6) It was Judas who was crucified.

(7) The crucified body was brought down from the cross in the early hours of dawn.

(8 ) The disciples ran away from the scene and did not witness the burial.

(9) The grave, in which the crucified body was buried, was found empty.

(10) The only witness of the resurrection was Mary Magdalene whose versions, given in the four gospels, differ from each other. In some, she was there when Isa rose from the grave; and in some, when she approached the grave, she was told by another unknown witness that her Lord was raised to heaven.

(11) Isa was seen by the disciples after the resurrection

It is a fact that it was not Isa who was crucified. He was saved. His disciples gave currency to the idea of his crucifixion so that the Jews remained assured of his death, else they would have gone in his pursuit. The Roman soldiers also kept quiet in order to avoid the blame of killing a wrong person and also the certain punishment for not executing Isa. As Sale has observed in his above noted explanation, the early Christians did not believe in Isa's crucifixion.

All the Muslims, in the light of this and other verses of the Quran, do not give any credence to the false story of Isa's crucifixion and resurrection, fabricated by the Christian church.

Tawaffa (to take away), tahar (to purify), raf-a (to raise) and nuzul (to descend) are the four effects of the divine will in connection with Isa, out of which the first three have already taken place and the fourth is expected to happen, before the final resurrection. The religion of Allah shall triumph over all other religions and creeds. The light of truth shall enlighten the world, and a perfect human society shall be established before the world comes to an end. This is His promise. If tawaffa means death, then also there should be no doubt in the mind of a believer about Isa's nuzul because, as said in verses 258 to 260 of al Baqarah, Allah can give life to the dead or raise up any dead living being to life. In the opinion of Shaykh Saduq, this explanation is more credible.

If tawaffa means departure from this world without dying, then his nuzul will be re-appearance after his temporary disappearance, similar to Imam Muhammad al Mahdi, who is living on the earth as a necessary link between man and God, while Isa has been raised up unto Allah. So Isa has no jurisdiction in the matters of this world, whereas Imam Mahdi is the sole deputy of Allah to look after and take care of the terrestrial affairs. When both of them shall re-appear Isa shall follow the leadership of Imam al Mahdi.

http://quran.al-islam.org/

2.the koran says jesus is blameless fautless and most pure among mankind, and jesus neva sin.but mohamed is a sinful man wit hatred, convating pple wives.koran 19.19,koran 2.253.(so are we to folo JESUS OR mohamed ok chose who to folo, jesus neva force pple to sarv him bt mohamed did even by kilin u if u refuse.).i have many tins to say nd write,bt am using a phone browser my thumb is tired typing, d only tin i want u to do 4 me who wil u choose JESUS or MOHAMMED.

you should have also told us what the Quran says of Muhammad (sa).does it not say:"indeed you (Muhammad) are of sublime morals"?

also,you are saying he killed those who refused him,doesn't the Quran also say:"there is no compulsion in religion"? was it not Muhammad (sa) that brought the Quran from God Almighty?

anyways,this topic should not be dragged into what you want to make of it to avoid the topic.this topic is not whether to choose Muhammad (sa) or Jesus (as).to us muslims,both men are of and from God and they are not different.this topic is Jesus VS. Christians.what did Jesus (as) say.tell me and answer my two questions and gain me for your religion.do it!

examples of what i am asking for from Christians to provide me and i will switch gears:

Holy Quran 21:92
"Indeed this, your religion, is one religion, and I (Allah) am your Lord, so worship Me".


Holy Quran 5:3
"This day I have perfected for you your religion and completed My favor upon you and have approved for you Islam as religion.

LagosShia:



Holy Quran 5:3
"This day I have perfected for you your religion and completed My favor upon you and have approved for you Islam as religion. But whoever is forced by severe hunger with no inclination to sin - then indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful".

I have no intention to derail your topic, but I just want to know if sharia law allows for the forgiveness of hungry sinners. since Allah says you should.

LagosShia:

if christians can do the following two things I am ready to become "christian" and adopt the denomination,sect and pastor of the NL member who gives me the answers.

1.) Show me where Jesus in the bible said we should practice a religion called Christianity.

2.) Show me where Jesus said we should either worship him or accept him as "a god" or "God".

if you fail to provide me explicit answers to both questions,then know that you are following an invented and man-made religion that Jesus did not order for.so your beliefs are based on your misinterpretations and what you made of Jesus's teachings and not what Jesus (as) ordered you to do.

and common,you missionaries on this forum waste hours attacking Islam and provoking muslims (more than you preach christianity and its different beliefs) to prick Muslims.so you can answer these two easy questions and gain me all for your own version of Jesus (as) and your church.

in addition,i would give anyone who answers the questions a gift of 100,000 Naira to show appreciation.

Your problem is two-fold:

1. You clearly lack understanding of what the term "christianity" means. Unlike islam which is a DEFINED (by mohammad by anyway) set of religious rites and rules, the term "christian" simply comes from a once derogatory term used to define those who identified themselves as followers of Christ Jesus (Acts 11:26). Infact much of acts reveals that in virtually every instance where the term "christian" is used, it was used by non-believers to describe members of the early church (see King Agrippa use such in Acts 26:28.

It thus flows that the term "christianity", rather than being an institutionalized name of a set of rites and rituals, is nothing but an umbrella term to refer to the body of Christ.

The message of Christ is very simply described in His conversation with Nicodemus in John 3, is NOT a call to follow rules and regulations but a simple call to a deep, eternal relationship with God.

LagosShia:



if you fail to provide me explicit answers to both questions,then know that you are following an[b] invented and man-made religion [/b] that Jesus did not order for.so your beliefs are based on your misinterpretations and what you made of Jesus's teachings and not what Jesus (as) ordered you to do.

isnt your islam man-made too


the only difference being, islam is copied AND man-made. wait, and so is christianity. you fellows follow GARBAGE! hahahahahaha

Hmmmm, u said judas die in place of Jesus what a brainwashed,.if judas die in place of Jesus ,then tel me d reason why God sent Him to earth,.and give me the relationship between, jesus and mohamed, (koran 4.158 it is writen alah raised jesus up to him self.nd mark 16.6 says and d Angel said to d disciples of JESUs you are looking for Jesus of nazarne, who was crucified, he has risen up from d death, koran 4.171 alah says truly d messiah jesus son of mary d prophet of alah ,his word dat he bestowed upon mary and He (JESUS) is d spirit of Him(alah, so dis tels u dat jesus is d son of God, koran 3.48 says and alah teach Him d books, wisdom torah and d Gospel, and d christan are refa to people of d godspel.and even mohamed confirm dat JESUS is abov satan evil influence go to d teaching of mohamed ,Hadith Mishkat Ulmasabil vol 1 page 43, in d koran allah confirms Jesus disciples as his inspired messengers koran 5.11 .did mohamed, have disiples, was his disiples inspired by God.

Arosa:

I have no intention to derail your topic, but I just want to know if sharia law allows for the forgiveness of hungry sinners. since Allah says you should.

"hungry sinners"? that refers to people who are forced to eat what is forbidden like pork and other forbidden foods based on the verse 5:3.the verse itself says that if one is compelled to eat what is forbidden in order to sustain one's life,then that would be forgiven.

also,we can add hungry people who steal to feed themselves.in an Islamic state,stealing food to eat because one is not capable to feed himself is not punishable.it is the duty of Muslims to take care of other muslims.also the state should ensure that everyone is fed.punishment for stealing applies to greed and those who do not steal in order to eat but in fact could themselves afford to feed themselves.

LagosShia, you are funny,

LagosShia:

examples of what i am asking for from Christians to provide me and i will switch gears:

Holy Quran 21:92
"Indeed this, your religion, is one religion, and I (Allah) am your Lord, so worship Me".


Holy Quran 5:3
"This day I have perfected for you your religion and completed My favor upon you and have approved for you Islam as religion.

Why delete this part from your post?

But whoever is forced by severe hunger with no inclination to sin - then indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful".

davidylan:

Your problem is two-fold:

1. You clearly lack understanding of what the term "christianity" means. Unlike islam which is a DEFINED (by mohammad by anyway) set of religious rites and rules, the term "christian" simply comes from a once derogatory term used to define those who identified themselves as followers of Christ Jesus (Acts 11:26). Infact much of acts reveals that in virtually every instance where the term "christian" is used, it was used by non-believers to describe members of the early church (see King Agrippa use such in Acts 26:28.

It thus flows that the term "christianity", rather than being an institutionalized name of a set of rites and rituals, is nothing but an umbrella term to refer to the body of Christ.

The message of Christ is very simply described in His conversation with Nicodemus in John 3, is NOT a call to follow rules and regulations but a simple call to a deep, eternal relationship with God.

so from your post i conclude three things:

1.) you started as usual with a failed attempt to discredit Islam and Muhammad (sa),on which you are absolutely wrong.

2.) you presented "christianity" as a derogatory term which the enemies of christians called those who "followed" Christ.this ofcourse poses a difficult situation.knowing that Jesus only taught and instructed people on spirituality and the worship of the One True God,i wonder where your trinity,bible and many other disputed beliefs would fall under the modern day "christianity" which the enemies of Jesus (as) gave you as your religion.again,to make things short,Jesus (as) didn't ask you to be christians!!!!in other words as we muslims have said and we are,we can love and follow the examples of Jesus (as) without being "christian".

3.) you avoided my second question!  

Arosa:

LagosShia, you are funny, Why delete this part from your post?

it was not initially intended to be quoted as the words are not of relevance to my post or the topic.

PAGAN 9JA:

isnt your islam man-made too


the only difference being, islam is copied AND man-made. wait, and so is christianity. you fellows follow GARBAGE! hahahahahaha

Okay "Pagan 9JA" this isn't a topic for you.you can continue inventing and carving your gods/idols and rituals.so please,you dont have to be noticed or be an attention seeker in every thread.

drstan:

Hmmmm, u said judas die in place of Jesus what a brainwashed,.if judas die in place of Jesus ,then tel me d reason why God sent Him to earth,.and give me the relationship between, jesus and mohamed, (koran 4.158 it is writen alah raised jesus up to him self.nd mark 16.6 says and d Angel said to d disciples of JESUs you are looking for Jesus of nazarne, who was crucified, he has risen up from d death, koran 4.171 alah says truly d messiah jesus son of mary d prophet of alah ,his word dat he bestowed upon mary and He (JESUS) is d spirit of Him(alah, so dis tels u dat jesus is d son of God, koran 3.48 says and alah teach Him d books, wisdom torah and d Gospel, and d christan are refa to people of d godspel.and even mohamed confirm dat JESUS is abov satan evil influence go to d teaching of mohamed ,Hadith Mishkat Ulmasabil vol 1 page 43, in d koran allah confirms Jesus disciples as his inspired messengers koran 5.11 .did mohamed, have disiples, was his disiples inspired by God.

i did not say Judas was the one that replaced Jesus on the cross.early christian sects who did not believe in the crucifixion said Simon of Cyrene was the one.

"son of God" can have a literal or figurative meaning.you can please review this thread:
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-811919.0.html

the Quran does not say Jesus' disciples were "inspired".

christians and jews are referred to as "the people of the book" and not "gospel".

to make things short,Jesus (as) didn't ask you to be christians!!!!in other words as we muslims have said and we are,we can love and follow the examples of Jesus (as) without being "christian".

LagosShia, I agree with you there. If you Love and follow the examples of Jesus. that transcends any religion.

^Barackallahu fi kum, yaah sheikh Lagosshia.

I am laughing at the response of the non christian. Its classic.


the christians are going to give you a song and dance, instead of winning a soul. Davidylan will try to prance around like an empty goofy show horse no jockey is on, trying to compete in Kentucky Derby or is it Baltimore Preakness or Belmont stakes. show horses are not for that. They don't win races. they win shows.

if you don't have the ability to invite Lagosshia with merely 2 questions that he asked answers must be provided, one will wonder if you truly believe in Jesus to be what you say he is. this is exactly what he asked you to present.

if you win Lagosshia, i will be the nafila [topping] because i will join in right away. I am thinking many muslims will the plunge, too.

@Arosa: are you saying by the above that Jesus will not look at christianity as the yardstick to know those who follows his examples, considering that it in the christian part of the bibles that we see the examples of Jesus? Shall we therefore throw christianity overboard and we are still good in the eyes of Jesus? How shall we therefore know the examples of Jesus to follow, because the Bibes must go too, being the books of the christians? Is there another book we can find adequate examples of Jesus we can follow and we will not miss the bibles?

[Quote]« #7 on: Today at 07:55:58 PM »

Quote from: LagosShia on Today at 06:00:54 PM
if christians can do the following two things I am ready to become "christian" and adopt the denomination,sect and pastor of the NL member who gives me the answers.

1.) Show me where Jesus in the bible said we should practice a religion called Christianity.

2.) Show me where Jesus said we should either worship him or accept him as "a god" or "God".

if you fail to provide me explicit answers to both questions,then know that you are following an invented and man-made religion that Jesus did not order for.so your beliefs are based on your misinterpretations and what you made of Jesus's teachings and not what Jesus (as) ordered you to do.

and common,you missionaries on this forum waste hours attacking Islam and provoking muslims (more than you preach christianity and its different beliefs) to prick Muslims.so you can answer these two easy questions and gain me all for your own version of Jesus (as) and your church.

in addition,i would give anyone who answers the questions a gift of 100,000 Naira to show appreciation.[/Quote]How did this garbage below answer the priceless challenge above, especially the 2 questions in hi-light?

[Quote]Your problem is two-fold:

1. You clearly lack understanding of what the term "christianity" means. Unlike islam which is a DEFINED (by mohammad by anyway) set of religious rites and rules, the term "christian" simply comes from a once derogatory term used to define those who identified themselves as followers of Christ Jesus (Acts 11:26). Infact much of acts reveals that in virtually every instance where the term "christian" is used, it was used by non-believers to describe members of the early church (see King Agrippa use such in Acts 26:28.

It thus flows that the term "christianity", rather than being an institutionalized name of a set of rites and rituals, is nothing but an umbrella term to refer to the body of Christ.

The message of Christ is very simply described in His conversation with Nicodemus in John 3, is NOT a call to follow rules and regulations but a simple call to a deep, eternal relationship with God.[/Quote]

My opinion: you were not asked to define christianity or what it means to you. You are asked to show where Jesus said you must practice christianity, worship him and accept him as your god or God. See. that was simple. Not complicated at all. No?

@Arosa: are you saying by the above that Jesus will not look at christianity as the yardstick to know those who follows his examples, considering that it in the christian part of the bibles that we see the examples of Jesus? Shall we therefore throw christianity overboard and we are still good in the eyes of Jesus? How shall we therefore know the examples of Jesus to follow, because the Bibes must go too, being the books of the christians? Is there another book we can find adequate examples of Jesus we can follow and we will not miss the bibles?

Sweetnecta, I wouldn't go that far as throwing away the bible. The book is still very useful. cos without it we wouldn't have known Jesus Christ in the first place. What I do is read the bible with an open mind. And yes am not a religious person.

Sweetnecta:

My opinion: you were not asked to define christianity or what it means to you. You are asked to show where Jesus said you must practice christianity, worship him and accept him as your god or God. See. that was simple. Not complicated at all. No?

That is quite daft. It is impossible to answer the question without going back to show where the word itself originated from. It came up as a derogatory term for the disciples of Christ used by non-believers just the same way muslims call us infidels today. Are you suggesting that, should the term "infidel" become synonymous with christians, muslims in 100 yrs would be challenging us to show them from the bible where Christ asked us to belief in a religion called infidelity?

LagosShia:

so from your post i conclude three things:

1.) you started as usual with a failed attempt to discredit Islam and Muhammad (sa),on which you are absolutely wrong.

2.) you presented "christianity" as a derogatory term which the enemies of christians called those who "followed" Christ.this ofcourse poses a difficult situation.knowing that Jesus only taught and instructed people on spirituality and the worship of the One True God,i wonder where your trinity,bible and many other disputed beliefs would fall under the modern day "christianity" which the enemies of Jesus (as) gave you as your religion.again[b],to make things short,Jesus (as) didn't ask you to be christians!!!![/b]in other words as we muslims have said and we are,we can love and follow the examples of Jesus (as) without being "christian".

3.) you avoided my second question!  

If you already know the answer then why pose the question in the first place?

Christianity means followers of Christ. Davidylan has explained.

the answer is in Mark 8:34-35 and was further reinforced in Acts 11:26, Acts 26:28, 1 Peter 4:16

the second answer is made clear in john 10:30 -33


if you are eager for answers read the verses and get it. Though I know an excuse is coming.

I really don't expect you to concede cos you are so blinded by hate (as you have openly stated) that you will raise some silly argument against what ostensibly is made so clear .

I WILL NOT tutor you to understand these simple verses like the other time. Read and learn. You have eyes. put em to use.

You don't embrace Christianity on conditions but on CONVICTIONS.

goshen360:

You don't embrace Christianity on conditions but on CONVICTIONS.

abi oh. I have given him an answer. May God grant him understanding.

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Quote from: Sweetnecta on Yesterday at 10:15:27 PM
My opinion: you were not asked to define christianity or what it means to you. You are asked to show where Jesus said you must practice christianity, worship him and accept him as your god or God. See. that was simple. Not complicated at all. No?

[b]That is quite daft. [/b]It is impossible to answer the question without going back to show where the word itself originated from. It came up as a derogatory term for the disciples of Christ used by non-believers just the same way muslims call us infidels today. Are you suggesting that, should the term "infidel" become synonymous with christians, muslims in 100 yrs would be challenging us to show them from the bible where Christ asked us to belief in a religion called infidelity?[/Quote]Proof that Christianity is the religion of God chosen for all previous righteous men and it was perfected on God and no other way is permitted by God to worship. Demonstrate that Jesus asked you to worship him or if you worship him, it is sufficient and you not have to worship the God that Jesus himself worship. Then show us where Jesus said that you should take him as your God, because he is God, who created all and control all and without him, there is nothing, no God saves he.

Can you deal with that instead of given us the discovery of the word christianity? See. That was easy. By now I should have been preparing for Wednesday Service and be making preparation for my first sunday church service. You see how you fail Jesus squandering opportunities to be a hero for jesus?

You are disappointing Jesus right about now. he will be saying to you that he does not now you if based on this opportunity and nothing else. This is your time to shine and you have no oil for your lamb and the groom will come and your virgin bride will be shut out.

[flash=500,400]http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docid=-8870177642686242029&hl=en&fs=true[/flash]

Find out the "conditions" that made this former Islamic terrorist embrace Christ as his personal Saviour and Lord.

^^Man nuff to answer the two questions. Davidy dylan has failed. maybe you can do better and not your video of arab opportunity will help you here.

Incidentally, the challenge of Lagosshia is that you people should quote a verse were Jesus boldly say to his companions, worship me. that will be enough. At least it is a start.


Look, Satan was bold and direct with Jesus when he told him "worship me" and I will give you the whole world that I am showing you.

Satan didnt stop there. He asked Jesus to "bow down" to him and he will give him a loaf of bread to rid himself of the hunger of empty stomach.
satan must have taken the position of being lord over, having power of authority over and has advantage over Jesus.

Show us anything like that. I am sure if he was God, his companions would have accepted his command. Instead he commanded them to worship and pray to the God in heaven not on earth in the Lord's prayer, seeking only his aids and forgiveness, etc. Jesus didnt disappoint me because like a dutiful slave he worshiped his Lord at Gethsemane. This is the same way I worship the same Lord that Jesus worshiped.

I told u all the answer i wil giv u wil be from ur koran and not d bible, d bible wil just be a back up, WHY CRISTIANS WORSHIP JESUS CHRIST, In koran 15.28.33 it said."it is written that when d lord said to the Angels see ,i an creating a mortal of the clay of mud, when i have shaped him and breathed my spirit into him ,fal you down bowing before him , then the angels bowed themselves all together and worship Adam except iblis(satan) who refused to join those who bowed .then the lord ask iblis (satan) why are u not among those who bowed to worship adam, but iblis (satan) replied why should i bow for a mortal whon u have made out of clay of black mud. Then d lord said to iblis because of ur disobedience from today i cast u out of my presence and curse shall u b til d day of judgement, d verses we read acoqding to koran tels us that God comanded al angels to worship adam and they al obeyed xcept devil for this reason he was cast out of heaven. HEBREW 1.6 says and again when GOD brings his first born (jesus) into the world he says let all God's angels worship him.(also read HEBREW 1 VS 1to 6 for beta undstnding).jesus and GOD ar one john 14.9 to 15, (HOPE U HAV GOT UR ANSWER.ar u stil in doubt. Did u nid more?

LagosShia:

if christians can do the following two things I am ready to become "christian" and adopt the denomination,sect and pastor of the NL member who gives me the answers.

1.) Show me where Jesus in the bible said we should practice a religion called Christianity.

Why looking for what doesn't exist. Jesus didn't come to start a religion. The question is not mature.

2.) Show me where Jesus said we should either worship him or accept him as "a god" or "God".

has anybody said he made such claim? These are manipulative immature questions.

Can you show me where jesus said we should eat Rice?

You

drstan:

I told u all the answer i wil giv u wil be from your koran and not d bible, d bible wil just be a back up, WHY CRISTIANS WORSHIP JESUS CHRIST, In koran 15.28.33 it said."it is written that when d lord said to the Angels see ,i an creating a mortal of the clay of mud, when i have shaped him and breathed my spirit into him ,fal you down bowing before him , then the angels bowed themselves all together and worship Adam except iblis(satan) who refused to join those who bowed .then the lord ask iblis (satan) why are u not among those who bowed to worship adam, but iblis (satan) replied why should i bow for a mortal whon u have made out of clay of black mud. Then d lord said to iblis because of your disobedience from today i cast u out of my presence and curse shall u b til d day of judgement, d verses we read acoqding to koran tels us that God comanded al angels to worship adam and they al obeyed xcept devil for this reason he was cast out of heaven. HEBREW 1.6 says and again when GOD brings his first born (jesus) into the world he says let all God's angels worship him.(also read HEBREW 1 VS 1to 6 for beta undstnding).jesus and GOD ar one john 14.9 to 15, (HOPE U HAV GOT your ANSWER.ar u stil in doubt. Did u nid more?

I think he was very tactical in that question. , If he had asked "is Jesus God"? He probably knows he would get many proof, so He asked the impossible where did Jesus said " worship me" etc. . It'd like saying where is Nigeria in the bible ?

ALLAH WARNED THE CHRISTIANS, THE JEWS,MOHAMMED AND HIS FOLLOWERS TO BELIEVE IN THE BIBLE AND ALSO LIVE THEIR LIVES ACCORDING TO THE TRUTH IN IT ELSE THEIR WHORSHIP WILL NOT BE ACCEPTABLE TO HIM, Koran 5.68. O people of the book ye have no ground to stand upon unless ye stand fast by the law ,the gospel ,and all revelations that has come from ur lord.-(bak up mathew 5.19.). if u copare the word of alah regarding this topic with what jesus said in(mathew 5. 19)one wil agree that those who for any reason refuse to study d bible the only HOLY BOOK where we hav the teaching or christ recorded, wil not be recognised by GOD. .and d anoyin part is dat mohammed was born six hundred years after jesus had left this world to heaven. And mohamed was commanded by alah not only to honour the scriptures already existing before him (the bible) as the word of GOD but he should admonish his people to live by its messages. But when iblis (satan)had a tourch on him he went further to by cot d teaching of Jesus and brought his own teachin, That is why the core islamic country that have christian as there majority always never found peace but kiling ,bombing, terorist,etct, just thank God 4 nigeria christian 4 their prayers if not iblis (satan) whould have bin touching dis country with violence and kiling, like al dis iraqki country dat hav 0.1% as christian,. Show me a violent country with hatred i wil tel u dat d christian there are the minority there, I rest my case a word is enof 4 d wise,bt ignorant is in d head of any folish man. I was once a muslim like u, so i undastan how u fil, d way ur muslim brothas and family wil hunt afta ur life, is not al muslim dat wil go to heaven only dose that belive in jesus teaching and belive he is d son of God. If u did not belive in Jesus christ dat mins u did not beliv in God d farda .koran 5.43,.koran 57.27,koran 5.68 mohamed is not d promise conforter koran 29,27 and koran 45.16,koran 2.12. O children of isreal remember my favour where with i favoured u, and how i prefered u 2 al cretur