hercules07:

@ACM

I hope you are aware that the bulk of the Fulani army was made up of Yoruba Generals who agreed to serve under those guys, please read up more on history before you open ur mouth.

Katsumoto:

Sauron
Oyo people are not cowards. They had the most fearsome warriors in the history of yoruba warfare.

dayokanu:

^^ Dont mind Sauron

Does he know how many Aare ona kakanfo were from that Axis?

Kokoro Gangan, Oyatope, Oyabi, Adeta Oku, Afonja laya loko, Toyeje, Edun, Amepo, Kurumi, Ojo Aburumaku, Obadoke Latoosa (and of course SLA Akintola and MKO Abiola

Count how many were from Oyo. axis

Katsumoto:

Sauron

The ekitiparapo won independence but didn't win the war. War ended in a stalemate.

Hercules

You know efunsetan was an egba woman. Your posts are on point. But will address later.



On my fone, will continue later.

Katsumoto:

Sauron


Oyo people are not cowards. They had the most fearsome warriors in the history of yoruba warfare.

On the night of January 15, 1966, a company of soldiers marched on the residence of the Premier, Western Region. Akintola omo Loogun, Ajalaagbe omo kulodo, yagboyaaju omo kara, took up arms against Nigeria’s first coupists and fought them till daylight, before he was mortally wounded. Eyewitness accounts have it that hours later, with his body riddled with bullets, he was still breathing and remained so until he gave up the ghost at sunset.

Kakanfo Ojo Aburumaku had no war to fight. He fomented a civil war in his native Ogbomoso which he then had a good sport of putting down with severity. Afterall, he was Aare Onakakanfo, the Supreme head of the Esos, the 70 military commanders who make the Yoruba warrior caste. Eso Ikoyi won kii gbofa leyin, iwaju ni won fii gbota. Agba Ikoyi to gbojo iku toree gbalu. Ikoyi Eso, arogun yo- Ikoyi warriors/generals dont receive arrows in the back, they face on coming bullets heads on. Elders of Ikoyi that heard of his day of death and went to get drummers rejoicing, Ikoyi generals that delight in wars

ACM10:

Fearsome my foot!

They, in combination with other Yoruba warriors with all their sophisticated weapon[i](if one exists)[/i] were conquered by the fulanis.

You can't spin defeat to victory

Afonja laya loko

Kilode?!:

DK's ancestors (Ogbomoso) were warriors in their own right too though,

I once read that the town acted as a place of refuge for warriors escaping from war, they felt safe within the walls of ogbomoso, that is big deal.

As to the topmost warrior class in northern Yorubaland, Samuel Johnson's 'History of the Yoruba' shows that the largest contingent of holders of the coveted and dreaded Aare Ona Kakanfo come from Ogbomoso. Here we remember the likes of Toyeje, Ojo Abunimaku and Ladoke Akintola, Ajala Agbe, omo Jalodo.

~Sauron~:

The Fulanis were strong. . . .
They could have conquered Britain if they wanted to.

I wouldn't berate Oyo warriors for being conquered by the Fulanis!
It was their lameness in the Kiriji war that told me Oyo warriors were just loud-mouthed.

Kilode?!:

ACM, Bros. don't mind all these Yoruba boasters, they make mouth over ordinary inter-tribal wrestling.

Please tell them about Umuleri Aguleri Fulani war, I heard people were beheading their enemies with Toyota crankshaft, it is true?  

Katsumoto:

Sauron

U are overblowing the strenght in that war. I will respond later. If ibadan weren't fighting several states on three fronts, they would av finished ekiti in no time. Ekiti suffered several defeats before turning to the ijeshas. It was the losses sufferred by the ijesha which prompted ogedengbe an ijesha man to agree to lead the ekitiparapo army. Ogedengbe had pledged not to ever fight against his former masters.

After the war started against the ekiti, it took ajayi ogboriefon all of two days to defeat the ekitiparapo and ilorin at ikirun. The death of ajayi, not in battle, would offer the ekiti a chance to keep fighting.

Katsumoto:

Sauron

U are overblowing the strenght in that war. I will respond later. If ibadan weren't fighting several states on three fronts, they would av finished ekiti in no time. Ekiti suffered several defeats before turning to the ijeshas. It was the losses sufferred by the ijesha which prompted ogedengbe an ijesha man to agree to lead the ekitiparapo army. Ogedengbe had pledged not to ever fight against his former masters.

After the war started against the ekiti, it took ajayi ogboriefon all of two days to defeat the ekitiparapo and ilorin at ikirun. The death of ajayi, not in battle, would offer the ekiti a chance to keep fighting.

ACM10:

Mythologist

I heard people were beheading their enemies with Toyota crankshaft, it is true?

~Sauron~:

Ekiti were defeated and they kept on fighting? Please. . . .articulate your points well.
What you typed above was pure contradiction.

There's no defeat until the Oba or the rulers of the kingdom must have been captured.
A point i am sure you are not aware of.

Katsumoto:

I have listed several books that form the basis of my debate. If you can read only one, please read Samuel Johnson's book. I have no interest in distorting history.

If Ekiti were winning, they woudln't have needed to beg an Ijesha man, Ogedengbe, to lead them in battle. The wars started in 1877 and Ogendengbe joined in 1879.

Negro_Ntns:



lmao!!! the original or made in Aba?

~Sauron~:

They needed an alliance. Oyo Empire was massive.
The Ekitis couldn't have won the war by themselves - but each time the Oyo Warriors encroached the Ekiti territories, they got sodomized!

dayokanu:

Can you all just ignore the troll called Dede.

He is the village jester

Look at it who gives birth to a child and names him "Dende"?

Negro_Ntns:

Katz, on Ilorin. . . .Fodio marched on Hausa, Kanuri, Nupe. . . . .his army were living and cohabiting with Yorubas in Gobir and Old Oyo, why did he not march on Old Oyo?  

Katsumoto:

Sauron,

In case you are unaware of this, Ekiti towns were tributaries of Ibadan. So your point about Ekiti not taking nonsense and dealing with Oyo is funny. They had been subjugated in the past. The seized on the conflict between Ibadan and Egba/Ijebu to wage war on Ibadan and still needed an alliance with Ijesha with an Ijesha general leading the combined army.

The same Ekiti towns were equally paying tributes to Benin.

Abeg make we hear word.  

~Sauron~:

Fuckin Hell. . . .
Where are these stories coming from?
Seized on which opportunity? Ekiti towns were kicking arses before the Kiriji nonsense.
Read the history books my friend. Then you mentioned Benin? Don't compare Akoko, Ondo and Ilaje to Ekiti.
There's a universe of difference between the two.

Katsumoto:

Ok,

Ekiti had the most fearsome warriors in the world; they defeated everyone they fought against.  

We are actually talking about a coalition of small Ekiti towns such as Ado, Ila, Oke Mesin, etc.  

tpia@:

^which differences are those?

You sound like someone who bases his knowledge on hearsay and google.
Not actual familiarity with the subject matter.