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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 10:50am On Aug 22
patrickmuf:
We already have good enough quality. We just need a DM...If you watched Bissouma against Watford yesterday, you'd understand how good he is...He or Ndidi will see us even the gao in midfield with City...

The rest is hinged on departures...

Bissouma would be perfect for us but for some reason we are not even looking at him. With someone like that we can play Pogba in central midfield without having panic attacks.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by melodyogonna(m): 10:51am On Aug 22
CapitalCee:

Who and who?
90% of people here complained about Mourinho.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:53am On Aug 22
lekkie073:
sensible things do not sound sensible to stupid people. Just imagine yourself proudly ascribing yourself a nonsensical nomenclature 'OleOUT' geng. Were you consulted before he was appointed? So why do you feel your useless opinions will determine when he will be relieved? It is easy to criticize. All you have to do is find one error and keep blabbing about it. Any fool can do that. However, not everyone can see progress. It is only given those who make effective use of their sense of reasoning.
Tell me you have never criticized a manager? Should we employ the services of a digger to dig out (That's even if you have been here that long) your comments on Mourinho, Van Gaal and Moyes?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingAlabi: 10:54am On Aug 22
Botfuss:
I adopt everything capitalcee has said as mine. Pep’s tactical ingenuity covers a lot for his players. That’s why some think they have a better squad. 1 vs 1–no city player can completely relegate ours in any position.

Since ole joined, I’ve never heard him say he signed a player because he fits into his playing style grin , because there’s no style. It’s always about the DNA.

Ole has no excuse this season Abeg. That squad is good enough for any coach to challenge for the biggest prices.
You wanna bet on the bolded?
You go just open mouth waaaaaahhhhhh!!!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by LMDyaya(m): 10:54am On Aug 22
patrickmuf:
We already have good enough quality. We just need a DM...If you watched Bissouma against Watford yesterday, you'd understand how good he is...He or Ndidi will see us even the gao in midfield with City...

The rest is hinged on departures...




yeah i know bissouma,only God knows whats stopping the fraud and board ,and i actually meant replacing the low qualities we have, not adding to the squad.

dalot, lingard, james, ageing mata thats 4 and new dm 5 signings. not mentioning matics last season and cavani as well.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingAlabi: 10:55am On Aug 22
patrickmuf:
The thing is that we don't have to play 4-2-3-1 all the time. In the absence of Bruno, we should rather play 4-3-3...

But if I must answer your question, I'll rank the as follows;

1. Pogba
2. Foden
3. Grealish

Grealish is a fine player but he hangs onto the ball too much. Pogba sometimes over does things but if he sees the movement, he will make the pass and 6 (if not higher) out of 10 times, it's inch perfect...

Foden's first instinct is to create space to score or make the run to score. He isn't very creative so, I'd rather deploy him as an inverted wing forward
We no get talk again abeg, you are clearly bias

When has pogba been consistent or successful over 3 games in the AM position?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 10:58am On Aug 22
nitrogen:

I talk am. We need 5 more world class signings before we can say we have a squad at City’s level. I saw it coming.

We just need to sell OT to get a ‘perfect’ squad.

We go dey alright las las
You never see anything. Las las na to buy a brand new 22 players go be the better excuse
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by LMDyaya(m): 11:01am On Aug 22
nitrogen:

I talk am. We need 5 more world class signings before we can say we have a squad at City’s level. I saw it coming.

We just need to sell OT to get a ‘perfect’ squad.

We go dey alright las las


nobody said world class ,and i actually meant replacing.

dalot ,lingard,james,mata, are not starters at mancity not even worth a place in the second eleven, thats 4 already , and we could all agree we need new dm.

Thats is if we want quality.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:04am On Aug 22
KingAlabi:

We no get talk again abeg, you are clearly bias

When has pogba been consistent or successful over 3 games in the AM position?
When has Pogba had to play with the quality of players we have now?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Botfuss: 11:04am On Aug 22
KingAlabi:

You wanna bet on the bolded?
You go just open mouth waaaaaahhhhhh!!!

Oya bring one let’s see.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:06am On Aug 22
LMDyaya:



nobody said world class ,and i actually meant replacing.

dalot ,lingard,james,mata, are not starters at mancity not even worth a place in the second eleven, thats 4 already , and we could all agree we need new dm.

Thats is if we want quality.
Mendy and Ake are worse than Dalot but they plays for City...

Nobody is considering Mata and Lingard sef. But you see James? He is the equivalent of Delap in City, they are hardly ever part of the conversation unless in a case of an injury crisis or a dead rubber game...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by lekkie073(m): 11:06am On Aug 22
patrickmuf:
Tell me you have never criticized a manager? Should we employ the services of a digger to dig out (That's even if you have been here that long) your comments on Mourinho, Van Gaal and Moyes?
kindly do what you feel is expedient.
It is one thing to criticize a manager once in a while, it is another thing to sit all day criticizing a manager like a cry baby.
I have been here longer than you, but I don't sit all day yapping on what I have little or no control over.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:08am On Aug 22
KingAlabi:

We no get talk again abeg, you are clearly bias

When has pogba been consistent or successful over 3 games in the AM position?
What has Foden or Grealish done as AMs to compare them to Pogba?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:09am On Aug 22
lekkie073:
kindly do what you feel is expedient.
It is one thing to criticize a manager once in a while, it is another thing to sit all day criticizing a manager like a cry baby.
I have been here longer than you, but I don't sit all day yapping on what I have little or no control over.
I was having an argument with folks who are matured enough to know we can disagree whilst still wanting the best for the team...Others have been sharing their opinions. If mine doesn't sit well with you, kindly ignore, it isn't that difficult a thing to do...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by BARAJ92(m): 11:10am On Aug 22
KingAlabi:

Oga no dey talk this things abeg.
Did James start when we played Southampton 9:0?
Stop using coincidence as focal point, in the high scoring matches as an attacker how many goals did he score? Or even assist?

Make una dey rest abeg.
he enter when the score was still 4-0. whether it is coincidence or not, I don't care what it simple means that we can play with him in the team and still get result. Ole should learn how to use his players, we have a large squad yet he continue using same 11.
In 914 minutes play, he score 3 goals and 1assist which shows that he is not that terrible.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by LMDyaya(m): 11:11am On Aug 22
I have seen some people mentioning excuse already , i dont even like ole from day one, i am one of his first critics on this board.


but saying we are have same quality with mancity whilst parading james,mata,lingard,dalot ageing matic ?


as i said they are better.

but we are not far behind!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingAlabi: 11:11am On Aug 22
patrickmuf:
When has Pogba had to play with the quality of players we have now?

If you put pogba in Bruno's position

Assuming

Rashford martial/cavani Sancho

McFred in midfield

Apart from Sancho majorly what's the difference in the players around him?

Secondly how has pogba faired on a personal level as an AM in the past?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingAlabi: 11:13am On Aug 22
Botfuss:


Oya bring one let’s see.
Let me talk recently
Sancho

In the past Bruno

Wayyyyy back
Maguire

Before I bring up his statements are you willing to bet on it?
I no fit come waste my time.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by lekkie073(m): 11:15am On Aug 22
lekkie073:

At times u talk like an adolescent. If truly u just served last year, then it's possible that u were a real kid during the time Manchester united was at their peak. So I can understand your problems.
Your problems are
1. You read about the past exploits of Manchester united and you were overwhelmed with such success.
2. You want to be associated with such success, hence joining the club.
3. You witnessed some of the latter successes of the club.

Now the solution to your problem is
1. Know that nothing lasts forever and that everything in life follows the mantra of ups and downs.
2. It is not you ranting here that will tell the board to do what they feel is right.
3. Liverpool last won the league a long time ago but they still have faithful supporters. Die with the team and stop being a sissy.

Please I am not here for online warfare.
Patrickmuf

this was me early in the season of 2018/2019 before Ole was appointed
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingAlabi: 11:15am On Aug 22
patrickmuf:
What has Foden or Grealish done as AMs to compare them to Pogba?
Na wa Sha

How many times has pogba played as an AM in his career and how good was he there when he played?

As a player pogba is better but as an AM grealish edges him and foden isn't even far or even level sef.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:16am On Aug 22
KingAlabi:

If you put pogba in Bruno's position

Assuming

Rashford martial/cavani Sancho

McFred in midfield

Apart from Sancho majorly what's the difference in the players around him?

Secondly how has pogba faired on a personal level as an AM in the past?
Are you saying Pogba hasn't improved his game or players like Rashford, Cavani Sancho don't present a better proposition compared to what he had around him before? Is Rashford not better than he was 3 years back?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Botfuss: 11:18am On Aug 22
KingAlabi:

Let me talk recently
Sancho

In the past Bruno

Wayyyyy back
Maguire

Before I bring up his statements are you willing to bet on it?
I no fit come waste my time.

Yinmu.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:18am On Aug 22
KingAlabi:

Na wa Sha

How many times has pogba played as an AM in his career and how good was he there when he played?

As a player pogba is better but as an AM grealish edges him and foden isn't even far or even level sef.

When Gundogan plays as an AM, does he play exactly like KDB or offer the same threat like KDB? It must not be like for like replacement, in the absence of Bruno, Ole has to find a way to get us going and we have the players with the requisite quality to get going...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingAlabi: 11:18am On Aug 22
BARAJ92:
he enter when the score was still 4-0. whether it is coincidence or not, I don't care what it simple means that we can play with him in the team and still get result. Ole should learn how to use his players, we have a large squad yet he continue using same 11.
In 914 minutes play, he score 3 goals and 1assist which shows that he is not that terrible.
No waver from the point, you said James is always present when we score high in matches.

Is it because of James we score high in those matches?

If yes, what is his goal contribution in these matches as an attacker?.

Abi what is the primarily responsibility of an attacker?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by lekkie073(m): 11:20am On Aug 22
patrickmuf:
I was having an argument with folks who are matured enough to know we can disagree whilst still wanting the best for the team...Others have been sharing their opinions. If mine doesn't sit well with you, kindly ignore, it isn't that difficult a thing to do...
see how matured people discuss people and events that they cannot change. Clearly digest how nezzar spoke of Jose and how I gave my opinion about jose

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingAlabi: 11:20am On Aug 22
Botfuss:


Yinmu.
You wan run?

Let's bet on it

Just 10k for data.

One statement from ole from me.

Make una dey calm down for this board abeg.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 11:22am On Aug 22
grin

It's cool to know all our Players are on par with Man City Players at the moment. We can match them in every position, even on the Bench.

Rashford that was called names as Trashford is now a world player? Martial that some us labeled Ice Cold Cúnt suddenly becomes a world player now? Our famous Dablord finally earned his Respect on this Board.

DDG that was condemned and rated below Henderson is now better again.... oh he was never a bad GK.

AWB that was tagged the weakling in defence. Poor attacking-wise now absolutely better than Walker and Cancelo?!

Lindelöf also earned his Respect finally he's damn better than Diaz, Laporte and Stones. Fred edges Rodri, Matic edges Fernandinho, DVB better than Gundogan and KDB is never a world Class Player.

Mahrez, Sterling, Silva are no better wingers than James, Rashford, Greenwood. Lastly Amad is better than Foden, while Williams is better than Zinchenko.

I wanted OGS out as well, but we should try to argue neutrally and objectively. Let's put aside, OleIn and OleOut ish for now and argue with Reality.

NB: Sancho and Varane have not proven their selves yet for United, thus can't be rated now.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:22am On Aug 22
lekkie073:
Patrickmuf

this was me early in the season of 2018/2019 before Ole was appointed
Do you think the protest of fans affected how we went about signing Varane and Sancho?

It's funny that you think the opinions of fans don't count...Nairaland is a microcosm of the bigger picture...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingAlabi: 11:22am On Aug 22
patrickmuf:
When Gundogan plays as an AM, does he play exactly like KDB or offer the same threat like KDB? It must not be like for like replacement, in the absence of Bruno, Ole has to find a way to get us going and we have the players with the requisite quality to get going...
There is a reason I didn't put in gundogan, Grealish is not a like for like replacement for KDB, neither is foden.
But they will do better or same than Pogba in that position.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:24am On Aug 22
Oasis007:
grin

It's cool to know all our Players are on par with Man City Players at the moment. We can match them in every position, even on the Bench.

Rashford that was called names as Trashford is now a world player? Martial that some us labeled Ice Cold Cúnt suddenly becomes a world player now? Our famous Dablord finally earned his Respect on this Board.

DDG that was condemned and rated below Henderson is now better again.... oh he was never a bad GK.

AWB that was tagged the weakling in defence. Poor attacking-wise now absolutely better than Walker and Cancelo?!

Lindelöf also earned his Respect finally he's damn better than Diaz, Laporte and Stones. Fred edges Rodri, Matic edges Fernandinho, DVB better than Gundogan and KDB is never a world Class Player.

Mahrez, Sterling, Silva are no better wingers than James, Rashford, Greenwood. Lastly Amad is better than Foden, while Williams is better than Zinchenko.

I wanted OGS out as well, but we should try to argue neutrally and objectively. Let's put aside, OleIn and OleOut ish for now and argue with Reality.
If I ask you to show me where anyone claimed AWB is better than Walker you'll disappear like the fart of a leprous witch... cheesy

A lot of what you wrote is concocted in your head and not what was said here...

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TheLequte: 11:24am On Aug 22
LMDyaya:
Omo,my input...


mancity are better than us ,yes


but we not far behind,yes


we still need like 5 more signings to be up there with mancity(squad depth wise) but that doesn't become an excuse for the fraud not to win something.we have seen teams with worse squad depth win trophies.(liverpool 19/20,leicester 15/16 etc comes to mind)

Thank you for this submission

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by BARAJ92(m): 11:24am On Aug 22
KingAlabi:

No waver from the point, you said James is always present when we score high in matches.

Is it because of James we score high in those matches?

If yes, what is his goal contribution in these matches as an attacker?.

Abi what is the primarily responsibility of an attacker?
What is the goal contribution of firminho in Liverpool yet he is their main striker.

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