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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Trevor012(m): 10:32pm On Sep 28, 2021
Betensure:
City just need a good striker
When city win, you will not tell us how they need a striker but when they drop point everybody start dropping "They need a striker" nonsense cheesy wink

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:33pm On Sep 28, 2021
Illimitable:


He doesn’t.

Ronaldo is the GOAT. Messi has always played in teams with world class players.

Mbappe is better than Sancho
Neymar is better than Martial/Pogba/Greenwood.



Playing in one off games against PL sides after getting a rest over the weekend is different from facing them week in week out.


If David Silva, Fabregas, Aguero, Torres and the likes can do it in England then I am certain Messi at City or Liverpool will do 3 times more damage...

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Trevor012(m): 10:34pm On Sep 28, 2021
Bombblacks:

Is it same Messi fans who do support Argentina over Nigeria in a world cup match
and you think it's just banter? I bet you if United meet Psg they will be rooting for Messi to get one over Ronaldo.
Them suppose castrate those fools for nonsense like that cheesy cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 10:37pm On Sep 28, 2021
patrickmuf:
If David Silva, Fabregas, Aguero, Torres and the likes can do it in England then I am certain Messi at City or Liverpool will do 3 times more damage...

None of these players have Ronaldo’s numbers . Which of them scored 42 goals in one season while winning PL/CL and the golden boots in those 2 competitions?

Ronaldo is the last PL player to win Ballon d’Or. Why hasn’t any player in your list come close to winning it if it’s piece of cake?

Ronaldo is the GOAT, bro.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:38pm On Sep 28, 2021
Ronaldo went from Rooney, Tevez, Berbatov, Scholes, Giggs to Benzema, Modric, Kroos, Marcelo, Casillas etc to Chiellini, Bonucci, Dybala etc to Pogba, Fernandez, Varane, Cavani etc Bottom line is that they have always been supported by the best players in their respective leagues...

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:39pm On Sep 28, 2021
Illimitable:


None of these players have Ronaldo’s numbers . Which of them scored 42 goals in one season while winning PL/CL and the golden boots in those 2 competitions?

Ronaldo is the last PL player to win Ballon d’Or. Why hasn’t any player in your list come close to winning it if it’s piece of cake?

Ronaldo is the GOAT, bro.
Those guys came from Spain and dominated the EPL, what makes you think Messi will struggle where Aguero, Silva, Fabregas and others before them excelled?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 10:40pm On Sep 28, 2021
grin

No time.

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by BikeMan: 10:43pm On Sep 28, 2021
Oasis007:
Madrid should never start that Buns Eater again. He's a complete bad signing for Madrid and don't deserve the No. 7 Jersey at all.
You’re still worrying about Hazard that went to a team 2 years ago when you have Sancho. cry

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 10:44pm On Sep 28, 2021
patrickmuf:
Ronaldo went from Rooney, Tevez, Berbatov, Scholes, Giggs to Benzema, Modric, Kroos, Marcelo, Casillas etc to Chiellini, Bonucci, Dybala etc to Pogba, Fernandez, Varane, Cavani etc Bottom line is that they have always been supported by the best players in their respective leagues...

How many players in this list made top 5 in Ballon d’Or ranking?

There was a time Iniesta and Xavi were dragging top 3 with Messi and Ronaldo. That’s the difference.

The one Modric won was just politics in play because Ronaldo fell out with Florentino Perez and he got punished for abandoning the ship for Juventus.

Even currently, Messi has better players surrounding him in a farmer’s league in comparison to upstarts like Greenwood or Martial.

If Messi doesn’t score 90 goals this season, questions need to be asked from this trio. cheesy

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by benji93: 10:45pm On Sep 28, 2021
My brother, are you a new member? Very strange question. cheesy
Bombblacks:
So basically some of you here will be praying Ronaldo doesn't score or perform for us whenever we are playing. Fada lord.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 10:47pm On Sep 28, 2021
patrickmuf:
Those guys came from Spain and dominated the EPL, what makes you think Messi will struggle where Aguero, Silva, Fabregas and others before them excelled?

No one said Messi won’t have any impact in the PL. The debate is if he would get the Barca numbers in the PL.

So you have to remove the Xavi/Iniesta factor from his career and replace it with McFred.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:54pm On Sep 28, 2021
Illimitable:


No one said Messi won’t have any impact in the PL. The debate is if he would get the Barca numbers in the PL.

So you have to remove the Xavi/Iniesta factor from his career and replace it with McFred.
Ronaldo had Scholes, Giggs, Rooney, Tevez, Vidic, Ferdinand, Evra and others when he produce those numbers...With such quality, Messi will do same or even more...

As of now, we still have Bruno, Pogba, Sancho, Cavani, Varane, Shaw etc...

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:55pm On Sep 28, 2021
Illimitable:


How many players in this list made top 5 in Ballon d’Or ranking?

There was a time Iniesta and Xavi was dragging top 3 with Messi and Ronaldo. That’s the difference.

The one Modric won was just politics in play because Ronaldo fell out with Florentino Perez and he got punished for abandoning the ship for Juventus.

Even currently, Messi has better players surrounding him in a farmer’s league in comparison to upstarts like Greenwood or Martial.

If Messi doesn’t score 90 goals this season, questions need to be asked from this trio. cheesy
Modric won it...

The thing is that whilst the trio look fantastic on paper, they're not quite of the same wavelength on the pitch...Before Messi's goals tonight, he had tried that move severally but Mbappe will rather attempt to take on many players and lose the ball. Too many big egos in that attack and it's hampering the team.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 11:03pm On Sep 28, 2021
patrickmuf:
Ronaldo had Scholes, Giggs, Rooney, Tevez, Vidic, Ferdinand, Evra and others when he produce those numbers...With such quality, Messi will do same or even more...

As of now, we still have Bruno, Pogba, Sancho, Cavani, Varane, Shaw etc...

These are tier B players.

None of them compares to the quality Messi had at Barcelona.

You are comparing Rooney and Tevez to someone that has had Ronaldinho, Etoo, David Villa, Suarez, etc as team mates.

The level at Barcelona was always higher.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by UncleHaba22: 11:05pm On Sep 28, 2021
Messi is the GOAT deep down everyone knows this but pipo love Ronaldo's personality than play



Wether epl oo Nigeria league oo
Messi better pass Ronaldo
Stat and trophy speaks


Copa America wey una dey use hold body no dey again grin grin

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 11:06pm On Sep 28, 2021
patrickmuf:
Modric won it...

The thing is that whilst the trio look fantastic on paper, they're not quite of the same wavelength on the pitch...Before Messi's goals tonight, he had tried that move severally but Mbappe will rather attempt to take on many players and lose the ball. Too many big egos in that attack and it's hampering the team.

No matter how bad their wavelength is, it can’t be as bad as playing next to Greenwood and Sancho. Neymar is Neymar, Mbappe is Mbappe.

Should we add the trophies won on both sides of the coin and tabulate? If Ronaldo had Mbappe/Neymar against Villa or Young Boys, he would get a hat trick in both games.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:08pm On Sep 28, 2021
Illimitable:


These are tier B players.

None of them compares to the quality Messi had at Barcelona.

You are comparing Rooney and Tevez to someone that has had Ronaldinho, Etoo, David Villa, Suarez, etc as team mates.

The level at Barcelona was always higher.
Modric, Ramos, Kroos, Casillas, Ozil, Di Maria, James Rodriguez, Bale, Benzema, Marcelo, Varane, Vidic, Van Der Sar, Scholes, Evra were world class...

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:12pm On Sep 28, 2021
Illimitable:


No matter how bad their wavelength is, it can’t be as bad as playing next to Greenwood and Sancho. Neymar is Neymar, Mbappe is Mbappe.

Should we add the trophies won on both sides of the coin and tabulate? If Ronaldo had Mbappe/Neymar against Villa or Young Boys, he would get a hat trick in both games.
From the game today, did you see any sequence of play that suggested Ronaldo would have scored a hattrick of goals? Who will create the chances for him? Neymar that wants to be the star of the show or Mbappe that is himself struggling to score?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 11:12pm On Sep 28, 2021
patrickmuf:
Modric, Ramos, Kroos, Casillas, Ozil, Di Maria, James Rodriguez, Bale, Benzema, Marcelo, Varane, Vidic, Van Der Sar, Scholes, Evra were world class...

They really aren’t. They are good players, they aren’t top of the shelf.

Attached is the Ballon d’Or rankings in 2009.

I dare you to find any season of ballon d’Or top 5 ranking where Ronaldo’s team mates dominated the list like this one.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 11:15pm On Sep 28, 2021
patrickmuf:
From the game today, did you see any sequence of play that suggested Ronaldo would have scored a hattrick of goals? Who will create the chances for him? Neymar that wants to be the star of the show or Mbappe that is himself struggling to score?

All those crosses coming from the flanks would find Ronaldo.

Verratti, Herrera will find Ronaldo.

Hell, he’s scored 4 goals playing with McFred. Imagine how many he would get with proper technical players like the PSG boys.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:17pm On Sep 28, 2021
Illimitable:


They really aren’t. They are good players, they aren’t top of the shelf.

Attached is the Ballon d’Or rankings in 2009.

I dare you to find any season of ballon d’Or top 5 ranking where Ronaldo’s team mates dominated the list like this one.
Well, let's leave it here, Ronaldo is your GOAT while Messi is mine.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Neymar1095(m): 11:18pm On Sep 28, 2021
When he was at Barca the excuse was Messi is carrying them singlehandedly with no support. Now even at Psg with Mbappe and king Neymar who has been thriving without Messi the excuse has become too many egos in the team and attack because they are not bowing to lick Messi ass. Messi fans are jokers.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 11:24pm On Sep 28, 2021
patrickmuf:
Well, let's leave it here, Ronaldo is your GOAT while Messi is mine.

Hahahahaha.

Patrick don run. cheesy

And before you say Messi was the reason those two midfielders were that high up, let it be known those duo won big trophies for Spain without Messi between 2008-2012.

It’s almost as if Messi actually needed them than they ever needed Messi. At no point in Ronaldo’s career has he ever had this level of brilliant players around him.

This is 2010 & 2011 Ballon d’Or Rankings. Barcelona boys dominated it again and again.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TLona1: 11:48pm On Sep 28, 2021
Illimitable:


Hahahahaha.

Patrick don run. cheesy

[s]And before you say Messi was the reason those two midfielders were that high up, let it be known those duo won big trophies for Spain without Messi between 2008-2012.

It’s almost as if Messi actually needed them than they ever needed Messi. At no point in Ronaldo’s career has he ever had this level of brilliant players around him.

This is 2010 & 2011 Ballon d’Or Rankings. Barcelona boys dominated it again and again.[/s]

You're just saying nonsense.

Shebi Xavi and Iniesta also played for Argentina when Messi won the following:

Copa America.
Copa America best player (3X).
Copa America highest assister (2X)
Copa America highest goalscorer and
World Cup MVP

Right?

Don't forget that Ronaldo has never been the best player in any international tournament even with his 1000000 international goals shocked grin.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ChristoBam: 11:50pm On Sep 28, 2021
Illimitable:
That KDB tackle reinforces the subjectiveness of refereeing decisions.

It’s difficult not to see racism in football. If Bissaka got a red for his tackle, why didn’t KDB get one?
KDB could have gotten a red. But he doesn't deserve it 100%. They both went in 50-50. It happens.

What makes Bissaka own a bit different is that he went studs in like that after losing the ball from a poor control. That's always a red.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by melodyogonna(m): 11:55pm On Sep 28, 2021
Illimitable:


He doesn’t.

Ronaldo is the GOAT. Messi has always played in teams with world class players.

Mbappe is better than Sancho
Neymar is better than Martial/Pogba/Greenwood.


Wtf is this? I dey talk of individual way of playing, wetin carry team enter the conversation?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 12:08am On Sep 29, 2021
TLona1:


You're just saying nonsense.

Shebi Xavi and Iniesta also played for Argentina when Messi won the following:

Copa America.
Copa America best player (3X).
Copa America highest assister (2X)
Copa America highest goalscorer and
World Cup MVP

Right?

Don't forget that Ronaldo has never been the best player in any international tournament even with his 1000000 international goals shocked grin.

One trophy for the national team since 2005.

CONMEBOL had to be bribed heavily to keep hosting the event every year to give Messi a chance of winning it.

We are talking European championship and you bring COPA America to the discourse. A competition of 3 or 4 good teams with Brazil as the only obstacle for Argentina.

Mere mortals like Uruguay and Chile won it under Messi’s nose but he’s suddenly great because he finally won one this year. cheesy grin

Ronaldo has to face France, Germany, Italy, Spain, Netherlands, Croatia, etc every 4 years to have a chance of winning with his country.

Copa America is a worse competition than Nations Cup in the continent of Africa. A competition of 10 teams is no competition. If Ronaldo was born an Argentinian, he would have won it 5 times by now.

Ronaldo is the GOAT.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 12:09am On Sep 29, 2021
CapitalCee:
Mourinho is a bastard. He saw Idrissa Gueye, but no he went and bought Fred.

Oooops!!!

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TLona1: 12:28am On Sep 29, 2021
Illimitable:


One trophy for the national team since 2005.

CONMEBOL had to be bribed heavily to keep hosting the event every year to give Messi a chance of winning it.

We are talking European championship and you bring COPA America to the discourse. A competition of 3 or 4 good teams with Brazil as the only obstacle for Argentina.

Mere mortals like Uruguay and Chile won it under Messi’s nose but he’s suddenly great because he finally won one this year. cheesy grin

Ronaldo has to face France, Germany, Italy, Spain, Netherlands, Croatia, etc every 4 years to have a chance of winning with his country.

Copa America is a worse competition than Nations Cup in the continent of Africa. A competition of 10 teams is no competition. If Ronaldo was born an Argentinian, he would have won it 5 times by now.

Ronaldo is the GOAT.

Compare the teams Portugal faced in Euro 16 with the teams Argentina faced in Copa 2021 and tell us the difference in quality.

Ronaldo is the goat yen yen yen..

Most Ballon d'ors - Messi.
Most Golden Shoes - Messi.
Most Playmaker awards - Messi.
Most individual international honours - Messi.

Stop all these self Deceit my bro.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Kilishihunter: 12:36am On Sep 29, 2021
TLona1:


Compare the teams Portugal faced in Euro 16 with the teams Argentina faced in Copa 2021 and tell us the difference in quality.

Ronaldo is the goat yen yen yen..

Most Ballon d'ors - Messi.
Most Golden Shoes - Messi.
Most Playmaker awards - Messi.
Most individual international honours - Messi.

Stop all these self Deceit my bro.
The last time Pendu scored messi's type of goal against Man city, Baba blue was still 5naira

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by melodyogonna(m): 1:48am On Sep 29, 2021
Trevor012:

When city win, you will not tell us how they need a striker but when they drop point everybody start dropping "They need a striker" nonsense cheesy wink
Wetin be Gabriel Jesus position again?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Android17: 3:52am On Sep 29, 2021
melodyogonna:

Wetin be Gabriel Jesus position again?

He has been a winger all season long.

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