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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 2:43pm On Mar 01, 2012
coogar:

robben is massively overrated. . . . .so he scored 2 goals against an inexperienced england defence and we should have a party.
how many international caps has smalling copped? gary cahill? leighton baines?

robben my foot - if he was good, he won't be kicked out of chelsea.
i am yet to see his name come up in the list of best players in the planet.

End of.

dayokanu's brain power is equivalent to the retention properties of a sieve through water
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dayokanu(m): 4:41pm On Mar 01, 2012
Scored 2 goals one of the running 60yards before scoring

If Robben is Overrated then those he scored the goals against are foools.

How many players in the whole EPL are as good as Robben

And Did anyone notice nanis exceptional performance yesterday squadering at least 7 chances vs Poland, I believe He must be having a beef with Ronaldo currently
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dayokanu(m): 4:47pm On Mar 01, 2012
coogar:

robben is massively overrated. . . . .so he scored 2 goals against an inexperienced england defence and we should have a party.
how many international caps has smalling copped? gary cahill? leighton baines?

robben my foot - if he was good, he won't be kicked out of chelsea.
i am yet to see his name come up in the list of best players in the planet.

Kicked out of Chelsea you put the capital M in M0ron

Someone made a 35m move to Madrid and you said was kicked out? Kicked out to the dream club of most players? Do one get kicked to a higher club? Maybe UNILAG can kick you to Harvard grin grin

Maybe Ronaldo was kicked to Madrid, Alonso was kicked to madrid, Fabregas was kicked to barca, Kaka was kicked to madrid, Benzema was kicked by Lyon to madrid, Sneijder and Huntelaar was kicked by Ajax to Madrid,

Like afrodoc said you need to trade that content of your skull for a plate of gbegiri
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 5:42pm On Mar 01, 2012
dayokanu:

Scored 2 goals one of the running 60yards before scoring

If Robben is Overrated then those he scored the goals against are foools.

How many players in the whole EPL are as good as Robben

And Did anyone notice nanis exceptional performance yesterday squadering at least 7 chances vs Poland, I believe He must be having a beef with Ronaldo currently
Stop making noise jare.
You haven't answered the question about the total number of caps of players in the defense he scored against.

You are talking about he EPL vs Robben.How stale.
I hope you don't expecting any answers for that silly question. He was in the EPL and what was his highest goal haul in one season for an attacking player? His total goals in the EPL for 3 seasons spent in England is just over what Ronaldo scored in 2006/7.Instead he just runs around headlesslessly flashing his bald head.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dayokanu(m): 5:54pm On Mar 01, 2012
^^ Whats the total number of caps Muller and Ozil had before ravaging the 3 rats of Engerland in Summer 2010?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 6:04pm On Mar 01, 2012
dayokanu:

Kicked out of Chelsea you put the capital M in M0ron

Someone made a 35m move to Madrid and you said was kicked out? Kicked out to the dream club of most players? Do one get kicked to a higher club? Maybe UNILAG can kick you to Harvard  grin grin

he was kicked out and as at the time robben left for real madrid, madrid were shyte in europe then. it was a dumping site for premier league teams, you homoerotic neophyte! so van nistelrooy also left unilag for havard? david beckham also left unilag for havard? you are a billy goat!!!


Maybe Ronaldo was kicked to Madrid, Alonso was kicked to madrid,  Fabregas was kicked to barca, Kaka was kicked to madrid, Benzema was kicked by Lyon to madrid, Sneijder and Huntelaar was kicked by Ajax to Madrid,

it was a different era in the time of ronaldo and alonso, you retardo! ramon calderon had a different concept.
in the ronaldo era, florentino perez is the difference unlike when madrid were signing quacks like robben, old ruud, robinho, baptista, etc.

when the real superstars were signed, robben could not stand the heat. . . grin grin grin grin grin
the most overrated Arrow by a country mile.


Like afrodoc said you need to trade that content of your skull for a plate of gbegiri

yours would do a perfect trade if they substitute your brain cells with 10ml of camel's s[i]e[/i]men

dayokanu:

^^ Whats the total number of caps Muller and Ozil had before ravaging the 3 rats of Engerland in Summer 2010?

yet more idiotic comments from the lips of dayokanu. . . . .

muller and ozil in the attack in comparison to smalling/cahill/baines/jones in the defence. . . . .what a daft comparison!
have you sold your brain cells for a plate of fufu? young players usually do well in the attack as no experience is really needed in that department.
you need a wealth of experience in the defence and this is why older players usually occupy the defence. . .

you should donate your brain cells to the zombies.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dayokanu(m): 6:14pm On Mar 01, 2012
coogar:

he was kicked out and as at the time robben left for real madrid, madrid were shyte in europe then. it was a dumping site for premier league teams, you homoerotic neophyte! so van nistelrooy also left unilag for havard? david beckham also left unilag for havard? you are a billy goat!!!

it was a different era in the time of ronaldo and alonso, you retardo! ramon calderon had a different concept.
in the ronaldo era, florentino perez is the difference unlike when madrid were signing quacks like robben, old ruud, robinho, baptista, etc.

Robben was signed in 2007, Sneijder was signed at a similar time, As ear;y as 2007 Ronaldo was already angling for a move to Madrid

yet more idiotic comments from the lips of dayokanu. . . . .

muller and ozil in the attack in comparison to smalling/cahill/baines/jones in the defence.
have you sold your brain cells for a plate of fufu? young players usually do well in the attack as no experience is really needed in that department.
you need a wealth of experience in the defence and this is why older players usually occupy the defence. . .


And you wonder why they call you retardo? How old was Badstuber, Boateng Khedira etc. Baines 27yrs Cahill 26yrs are definitely older than them
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 6:20pm On Mar 01, 2012
dayokanu:

Robben was signed in 2007, Sneijder was signed at a similar time, As ear;y as 2007 Ronaldo was already angling for a move to Madrid

angling a move that real madrid could not afford? you are a blatant liar!!!
without florentino perez, madrid would never have signed cristiano. the florentino era marked another galactico era.
if you dunno your football, start a business in pubic hair plaiting.


And you wonder why they call you retardo? How old was Badstuber, Boateng Khedira etc. Baines 27yrs Cahill 26yrs are definitely older than them

khedira is a midfielder - shut up.
badstuber would not play in any of the top four teams in england and boateng? that was kicked out of man city as he couldn't displace kompany, kolo toure, etc?

at 18, rooney was terrorizing defences in europe at large. if he was a defender, he wouldn't even smell the reserves, let alone start for england.
at 19, luiz ronaldo was the best player on the planet, if he was a defender or a goalkeeper, he wouldn't even be considered. wealth of experience is needed in the defence department that no young player can bring. name me a world class defender at 20 in the history of association football!

younger players are preferred in the attack than in the defence - even a kid of 5 knows this but dayokanu whose brains have been caked in by ogbomosho sun wouldn't know jack!

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dayokanu(m): 6:35pm On Mar 01, 2012
Badstuber would not play for a top 4 team in Engerland yet Gary Cahill does, David Luiz does, Phil Jones does, Chris Smalling, John Evans, Per mertersacker, Djourou etc all play for top 4

No wonder none of the top 4 player could play a decent World cup while Badstuber and Boateng were playing Semis

Iker Casillas was already a world class goalkeeper at 19, paolo Maldini was already world class at 20

If you dont know, Ask questions

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 6:57pm On Mar 01, 2012
dayokanu:

Badstuber would not play for a top 4 team in Engerland yet Gary Cahill does, David Luiz does, Phil Jones does, Chris Smalling, John Evans, Per mertersacker, Djourou etc all play for top 4

phil jones is 50 times better than badstuber.
all the players you have mentioned are miles better than badstuber.


No wonder none of the top 4 player could play a decent World cup while Badstuber and Boateng were playing Semis

no wonder no german player of this generation has won anything on the continent in 11 yrs.
what a disgrace!!


Iker Casillas was already a world class goalkeeper at 19, paolo Maldini was already world class at 20

none of them wasworld class at these ages. casillas wasn't even better than canizares for spain in 2000. stop lying to us.
casillas was a goalkeeper for madrid at 19, he wasn't world class then because at 19. . . . . .schmeichel, oliver khan, vitor baia, toldo, rustu, barthez and van der sar were all better. that's only in europe - i won't even mention south america.

as for maldini, i can only laugh at your illiteracy.
maldini wasn't even the best defender for his team(baresi, costacurta) - let alone be a world class player at 20(1988).
maldini was better than koeman, rijkaard, kohler, brehme, sensini, branco, aldair, augenthaler, etc?


If you dont know, Ask questions

you're a tool. . . . .
if casillas was world class in 2000, da silva brothers are also world class. grin
so because a young player plays for a winning team suddenly makes him world class? what a tyke!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dayokanu(m): 7:09pm On Mar 01, 2012
I have always known you are clueless when it comes to European football.

Phil Jones better than badstuber? Even Djorou, Mertersacker, Smalling, John Evans? If those were to be Germans they wont even make the U21. When Howedes isnt guaranteed a shirt, When even the same Mertersacker isnt guaranteed a shirt yet he is better than badstuber who is one of the first defenders to be chosen?

You are very clueless

Who doesnt know the exploits of Casilass at age 19< Casilass was one of the top performers in a mediocre madrid team that won the CL in 2000. Comparing Casilass of 2000 to Da Silva? Why not compare them to Deinde fernandez?

Like i told you, if you dont know ask questions

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 7:22pm On Mar 01, 2012
dayokanu:

I have always known you are clueless when it comes to European football.

Phil Jones better than badstuber? Even Djorou, Mertersacker, Smalling, John Evans? If those were to be Germans they wont even make the U21. When Howedes isnt guaranteed a shirt, When even the same Mertersacker isnt guaranteed a shirt yet he is better than badstuber who is one of the first defenders to be chosen?

you are a big buffoon - smalling/johhny evans/phil jones are all better than badstuber.
who is badstuber in the realm of things. . . . metresacker - a defence kingpin in germany is smelling his baptism of fire in the premier league now.
germany is light in the defence - it's an open secret!


You are very clueless
Who doesnt know the exploits of Casilass at age 19< Casilass was one of the top performers in a mediocre madrid team that won the CL in 2000. Comparing Casilass of 2000 to Da Silva? Why not compare them to Deinde fernandez?

he wasn't.
he was just a young player starting for the biggest team in the world. . . . .unless you're a nanny goat. . .
salgado, roberto carlos, campo, redondo, raul, steve mcmanaman, morientes, anelka. . . .those were the top performers then.
if you think casillas was world class in 2000 then you're not fit to discuss football on these pages. casillas better than van der sar, toldo, barthez, etc.
are you this moronic?


Like i told you, if you dont know ask questions

it's you with the brain-farts.
that casillas was a goalie for the best team in the world doesn't make him world class. . . .canizares of valencia was better in 2000.
valdez has been barcelona's goalie for ages - you wouldn't put him in the list of top 5 goalies presently.

in 20 yrs time, your son would tell his mates valdez was also world class in 2006. grin

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dayokanu(m): 7:47pm On Mar 01, 2012
Fact is Mertersacker conceded more goals in the BL than in the EPL. That was someone that was the object of ridicule in the german media now starting for a top 4 side in Engerland

Fact is Phil Jones, Smalling, Evans would never get a german U21 call up. Infact No one in the whole England set up currently(maybe except Rooney) would make the bench of any german side

Top Performers? You must be a m0ron Top Performers yet couldnt make top 4 in La Liga

IAsk those who were old enough to watch games then. Casilass was the a top performer and actuially saved madrid in that tourney especially in the quarters and Semis.

How many saves does Valdez makes in a game? compare that to Casilass in year 2000
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 8:01pm On Mar 01, 2012
dayokanu:

Fact is Mertersacker conceded more goals in the BL than in the EPL. That was someone that was the object of ridicule in the german media now starting for a top 4 side in Engerland

arsenal are better than any team in bundesliga apart from bayern.
and in arsenal, koscielny and vermaelen are better than metresacker. even a toad knows that in england.


Fact is Phil Jones, Smalling, Evans would never get a german U21 call up. Infact No one in the whole England set up currently(maybe except Rooney) would make the bench of any german side

they would all walk into the under 21 call up.
gerrard, lampard, rooney, ashley cole, joe hart, welbeck, cleverley, etc would play for the german team.


Top Performers? You must be a m0ron Top Performers yet couldnt make top 4 in La Liga

what is this tool talking about?
how did they win the champions league if they weren't top performers?


IAsk those who were old enough to watch games then. Casilass was the a top performer and actuially saved madrid in that tourney especially in the quarters and Semis.

quarters and semis when jeremies scored an own goal?
roy keane also scored an own goal which resulted to a vital away goal for real madrid at old trafford.
madrid had scored 3 goals before united scored 2 goals. casillas did squat in the q-finals, man utd just self-destructed after keane's own goal.


How many saves does Valdez makes in a game? compare that to Casilass in year 2000

casillas wasn't making any save in 2000.
madrid was criminally talented. . . the triumvirate of raul, morientes and anelka were good value.
salgado and roberto carlos were kingpins not to forget redondo and you are here mentioning a non-existent casillas at 19.
if casillas was world class in 2000 - can you kindly explain why he was an unused substitute few months later in euro 2000?

you are a goat!

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dayokanu(m): 8:25pm On Mar 01, 2012
coogar:

arsenal are better than any team in bundesliga apart from bayern.
and in arsenal, koscielny and vermaelen are better than metresacker. even a toad knows that in england.

they would all walk into the under 21 call up.
gerrard, lampard, rooney, ashley cole, joe hart, welbeck, cleverley, etc would play for the german team.

Who would they bench please enlighten me.


German line up Neuer- Boateng- Hummels, badstuber, Lahm - Khedira-Schweinsteiger- Muller,Ozil, Reus/Gotze- Klose

Hart would bench Neuer, Lampard would bench Khedira, Gerrard bench Schweinsteiger, Ashley Cole bench Lahm, Cleverly bench Ozil or how?

Please who is your weed supplier? He has been mixing subsidized fuel with that ish

what is this tool talking about?
how did they win the champions league if they weren't top performers?

quarters and semis when jeremies scored an own goal?
roy keane also scored an own goal which resulted to a vital away goal for real madrid at old trafford.
madrid had scored 3 goals before united scored 2 goals. casillas did squat in the q-finals, man utd just self-destructed after keane's own goal.

If you didnt watch those games ask those who watched. In all those 4 q and semi final Madrid was under the cosh for most of the time.

Actually it was counted as an upset for madrid to beat bayern and Man Utd given their horrible form that season. man Utd battered therm and many in Old trafford believed Man Utd would still win even after keanes own goal.

Despite that I was hoping Madrid would win, it was until Redondo disgraced Berg for raul to score that i could really celebrate

casillas wasn't making any save in 2000.
madrid was criminally talented. . . the triumvirate of raul, morientes and anelka were good value.
salgado and roberto carlos were kingpins not to forget redondo and you are here mentioning a non-existent casillas at 19.

The Raul, Morientes etc that could barely scrape out of the group? The same Madrid that was embarrased 8-3 aggregates in the groups by Bayern and needed a last matchday victory over Rosenborg to qualify? You are a toad!!

if casillas was world class in 2000 - can you kindly explain why he was an unused substitute few months later in euro 2000?

You should be the gold standard for stupidity. If a team has 2 world class keeper without injury, Would they play the 2 at the same time?

If Buffon and Kahn were from the same country in 2002, Would the 2 play at the same time?

How many minutes did Oliver Kahn play in France 1998.

Casilass was benched because he has an equally good keeper in Canizares ahead of him who was also more experienced
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 8:34pm On Mar 01, 2012
maldini definitely world class at 20.dt he wasnt d best defender in his club doesn't mean he wasnt world class since he was playing in one of d all time defence line ups led by one of d best defenders of all time.
bergomi too was world class at 20 and on his way to be an all time great.
casillas at 20 was good for his age but i wouldnt call him world class at dt point esp cos there were many outstanding keepers at dt time,enough to fill d world class goal keeper spots
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 8:38pm On Mar 01, 2012
:p
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 8:39pm On Mar 01, 2012
dayokanu:

Who would they bench please enlighten me.
German line up Neuer- Boateng- Hummels, badstuber, Lahm - Khedira-Schweinsteiger- Muller,Ozil, Reus/Gotze- Klose
Hart would bench Neuer, Lampard would bench Khedira, Gerrard bench Schweinsteiger, Ashley Cole bench Lahm, Cleverly bench Ozil or how?
Please who is your weed supplier? He has been mixing subsidized fuel with that ish

hart would definitely bench neuer. . . .lampard/cleverley would bench khedira, gerrard would bench klose, lahm and ashley cole is a toss up.
lahm plays on both flanks and he would walk into the england set up. cleverley would bench gotze/reus/kroos.


If you didnt watch those games ask those who watched. In all those 4 q and semi final Madrid was under the cosh for most of the time.

you're a miserable sod.
madrid were never under the cosh against united and bayern.
both teams self-destructed and got swept away. redondo murdered both teams.


Actually it was counted as an upset for madrid to beat bayern and Man Utd given their horrible form that season. man Utd  battered therm and many in Old trafford believed Man Utd would still win even after keanes own goal.
Despite that I was hoping Madrid would win, it was until Redondo disgraced Berg for raul to score that i could really celebrate

buhahahaha.
the own goal ruined united. maybe if someone else had scored the own goal, keane would have rallied back cos of his mental strength.
however, it was the perfectionist himself(roy keane) that made the tremendous error of scoring into his own net. the heads of the others went down and conceded 2 more goals criminally before the normal english fight back started - by then madrid had lost interest in competing and just coasted till the final whistle.


The Raul, Morientes etc that could barely scrape out of the group? The same Madrid that was embarrased 8-3 aggregates in the groups by Bayern and needed a last matchday victory over Rosenborg to qualify? You are a toad!!

raul was the joint top scorer in that particular competition.
morientes also scored 6 goals in the same competition.
you are a troglodyte - you know nada about european football. . . . .you read complete football, i watched live games so keep it shut.


You should be the gold standard for stupidity. If a team has 2 world class keeper without injury, Would they play the 2 at the same time?

but spain didn't have 2 world class keepers. . . . .casillas was not world class in 2000.
he wasn't even as good as the current david de gea as at 2000. . . . . .stop overhyping nonsense.
canizares was miles better and i could count 12 different goalies all over the world better than iker.


If Buffon and Kahn  were from the same country in 2002, Would the 2 play at the same time?
How many minutes did Oliver Kahn play in France 1998.

back to the ebonics again. . . .
canizares was the better goalkeeper. casillas was the young goalie playing for the biggest team in the world.
it was canizares that started for spain in euro 2000 few months later after casillas(saved real madrid to win europe's most coveted trophy according to dorkkanu) grin grin grin


Casilass was benched because he has an equally good keeper in Canizares ahead of him who was also more experienced

casillas was benched because he wasn't good at all. he was a rookie.
the season that followed madrid's victory in the champions league competition, casillas was demoted due to his army of eye-catching errors and cesar sanchez was the number one goalkeeper @ real madrid. matter of fact, cesar's injury was the reason casillas got the starting shirt back again almost a year later.

yes, let's pretend casillas is world class because he kept the goal for the biggest team in europe.
dayokanu - football is not your forte, try vulcanizing. grin
the day you win an argument on football matters, i would swallow cyanide, you this homoerotic vermin!

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 8:47pm On Mar 01, 2012
and d best player for madrid in 2000 wasn't casillas d goal keeping hero or raul d top scorer,it was definitely redondo who had his annus mirabilis.men dt left peg of his was on something else during dt period,he would hv bin a great fit for dis current barca team
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 8:55pm On Mar 01, 2012
afrodoc:

and d best player for madrid in 2000 wasn't casillas d goal keeping hero or raul d top scorer,it was definitely redondo who had his annus mirabilis.men dt left peg of his was on something else during dt period,he would hv bin a great fit for dis current barca team

redondo was the craftsman but someone still had to score the chances created.
raul was good value for money. 10 champions league goals nor be beans.

afrodoc:

maldini definitely world class at 20.dt he wasnt d best defender in his club doesn't mean he wasnt world class since he was playing in one of d all time defence line ups led by one of d best defenders of all time.
bergomi too was world class at 20 and on his way to be an all time great.

i agree bergomi was world class at 19. he was a starter for italy in 82 world cup final at 18 and he murdered german strikers.
littbarski, fischer, rummenigge, etc stayed in his shorts until breitner scored from a goal mouth scramble later in the game.
matter of fact, take this e-handshake for remembering bergomi.

i wouldn't call maldini world class in 88. i could name a dozen defenders better than him then.
where would maldini be in euro 88 amongst the finest of defenders/sweepers in europe then?
let's not misuse the word "world class". a world class player should walk into any starting xi without arguments.

paolo maldini would not play for holland, germany, brazil, argentina or russia in 1988.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dayokanu(m): 9:02pm On Mar 01, 2012
coogar:

hart would definitely bench neuer. . . .lampard/cleverley would bench khedira, gerrard would bench klose, lahm and ashley cole is a toss up.
lahm plays on both flanks and he would walk into the england set up. cleverley would bench gotze/reus/kroos.!

Drugs alert. Hart would bench Neuer. Cleverly would bench Khedira? have you gone to rehab?

Gerard would bench Klose because Gerard is a striker like Klose?  shocked shocked rather it should be Gerrard would bench Neuer since Gerard is a Keeper grin Cleverly wuld bench Gotze, Reus. You are a disgrace to rhesus monkeys globally

you're a miserable sod.
madrid were never under the cosh against united and bayern.
both teams self-destructed and got swept away. redondo murdered both teams.

That is what happens when you watch games on pages of newspapers. Vs Bayern and Man Utd.

Madrid was useless that season up till that point and Man Utd dominated them especially at Old trafford.

Madrids last 2 goals were counters after United camped in their half  with Karanka and co having games of their lives. Carlos got turned by Beckham for the goal though


buhahahaha.
the own goal ruined united. maybe if someone else had scored the own goal, keane would have rallied back cos of his mental strength.
however, it was the perfectionist himself(roy keane) that made the tremendous error of scoring into his own net. the heads of the others went down and conceded 2 more goals criminally before the normal english fight back started - by then madrid had lost interest in competing and just coasted till the final whistle.

The psycho-analysis of Roy Keane   grin grin

raul was the joint top scorer in that particular competition.
morientes also scored 6 goals in the same competition.
you are a troglodyte - you know nada about european football. . . . .you read complete football, i watched live games so keep it shut

Does it matter who was top scorer? Jardel was also joint top scorer what point does that prove?

but spain didn't have 2 world class keepers. . . . .casillas was not world class in 2000.
he wasn't even as good as the current david de gea as at 2000. . . . . .stop overhyping nonsense.
canizares was miles better and i could count 12 different goalies all over the world better than iker.

Since you didnt watch Iker in 2000, Can you ask ppl who watched those games?

back to the ebonics again. . . .
canizares was the better goalkeeper. casillas was the young goalie playing for the biggest team in the world.
it was canizares that started for spain in euro 2000 few months later after casillas(saved real madrid to win europe's most coveted trophy according to dorkkanu) grin grin grin

What does this tripe mean?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 9:05pm On Mar 01, 2012
u no trust?  grin anyway i accept d handshake  wink
bergomi was a bad guy from when he was young,there is anoda precocious defender dt i am tryin to remember but osapamilori  grin
as per maldini i believe he was a left back at dt tym and for a left back he was anoda precocious talent and already world class,i wasnt comparing him to CBs o!
there were loads n loads of world class CBs then but not so many leftbacks
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dayokanu(m): 9:06pm On Mar 01, 2012
coogar:

i wouldn't call maldini world class in 88. i could name a dozen defenders better than him then.
where would maldini be in euro 88 amongst the finest of defenders/sweepers in europe then?
let's not misuse the word "world class". a world class player should walk into any starting xi without arguments.

I see that you have revolutionalised stupidity.  grin grin grin

In 2000-2002 Kahn and Buffon were world class. Would Buffon walk into the German team of 2002 without arguments?

In 1998-2003, Zidane was the best 10, Does that mean there are no 10 in the world worthy of being World class? if there are, Would they walk into a team that already has Zidane ?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dayokanu(m): 9:09pm On Mar 01, 2012
coogar:
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i agree bergomi was world class at 19.


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he wouldn't even be considered. wealth of experience is needed in the defence department that no young player can bring. name me a world class defender at 20 in the history of association football!younger players are preferred in the attack than in the defence - even a kid of 5 knows this but dayokanu whose brains have been caked in by ogbomosho sun wouldn't know jack!



From the two statements you now agree you aare a dolt.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 9:11pm On Mar 01, 2012
dayokanu:

Drugs alert. Hart would bench Neuer. Cleverly would bench Khedira? have you gone to rehab?

who is samir khedira? he doesn't even start for madrid. lass, pepe(defender) and alonso are preferred.
neuer is overrated. joe hart is miles better. how many goals has neuer conceded in bundesliga, how many has hart conceded?


Gerard would bench Klose because Gerard is a striker like Klose?  shocked shocked rather it should be Gerrard would bench Neuer since Gerard is a Keeper grin Cleverly wuld bench Gotze, Reus. You are a disgrace to rhesus monkeys globally

klose plays behind gomez . . .gerrard plays behind rooney.
gerrard can play as a supporting striker. who is gotze? another german player brought to light by the german hype machine.
he's good but not great. on balance, cleverley is miles better.


That is what happens when you watch games on pages of newspapers. Vs Bayern and Man Utd.
Madrid was useless that season up till that point and Man Utd dominated them especially at Old trafford.

dominated who?
dominated them and they raced to 3 goals at old trafford before united could muster a goal?
are you mentally ill? grin


Madrids last 2 goals were counters after United camped in their half  with Karanka and co having games of their lives. Carlos got turned by Beckham for the goal though
The psycho-analysis of Roy Keane   grin grin

oh shut up. . . .does it matter how a goal is scored?
madrid were the away team at old trafford - some measure of caution was applied but they battered united.
but for a dodgy penalty scored later, the score should have remained 3-1.


Does it matter who was top scorer? Jardel was also joint top scorer what point does that prove?

jardel in 2000 is better than any german striker bar gerd muller.


Since you didnt watch Iker in 2000, Can you ask ppl who watched those games?
What does this tripe mean?

i saw iker in 2000. he was rubbish.
a season later, he was permanently on the bench for cesar sanchez until cesar got injured and there was no one else to play but him.
he became better as he grew in the shirt.

the statement reads dayokanu = dorkkanu. grin

dayokanu:

I see that you have revolutionalised stupidity.  grin grin grin

that would be the same stupidity that conceived you. grin
the source is mightier than any revolution. mr dayo that claimed torres is older than van persie. grin


In 2000-2002 Kahn and Buffon were world class. Would Buffon walk into the German team of 2002 without arguments?

without a doubt. . . .
kahn and buffon would divide opinions. in 1999, kahn and schmeichel would divide opinions.
messi and ronaldo divide opinions. . . .there are some people who still believe strongly ronaldo is the better player without arguments.


In 1998-2003, Zidane was the best 10, Does that mean there are no 10 in the world worthy of being World class? if there are, Would they walk into a team that already has Zidane ?

this tool has started again with the best 10. what is 10?

and who told you zidane was the unanimous best 10 in the world in that period? are you a fool?
zidane was the best 10 and yet roy keane disgraced him in turin in 1999. what a 10?
would zidane walk into united's 99 treble winning team? best 10 my foot!!!! who would zidane bench then? scholes or keane?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dayokanu(m): 9:13pm On Mar 01, 2012
In which games did Klose start behind Gomez in the last 2 years?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 9:28pm On Mar 01, 2012
dayokanu:

In which games did Klose start behind Gomez in the last 2 years?

is that the reason no german footballer has won anything on the continent in 11 yrs? grin grin grin grin

zidane is the best "10". zidane ko, sardine ni. grin

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 9:32pm On Mar 01, 2012
coogar using your definition of world class,since zidane couldnt walk into united's first 11 without arguments(according to u) r u saying he was not world class in 99?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 9:37pm On Mar 01, 2012
afrodoc:

coogar using your definition of world class,since zidane couldnt walk into united's first 11 without arguments(according to u) r u saying he was not world class in 99?

in 1999, zidane wasn't world class.
his world class status was in patches.

world class in 98, dead n buried in 99. . .
world class in 2000, utter w@nk in 2001 & 2002(lucky to score a good volley in champions league final) and the media went overdrive. he had a stinker in 2002 world cup. . .he was injured but when he played, he did nothing.

zidane's best tournament for me was actually in 2006.
had france won that tournament, zidane would have eclipsed maradona's 86 world cup feat.
my point is a player can hit good form to be called world class and then dips( to become almost anonymous thus creating a zig-zag pattern in his performance on a graph.

rooney could fluctuate between being a world class striker to being the shittiest striker ever.
some players are like this but then you have some players who continue to deliver the highest quality year in year out.
messi, ronaldo, xavi, iniesta - these players don't lose form. they always deliver.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dayokanu(m): 9:46pm On Mar 01, 2012
coogar:

who is samir khedira? he doesn't even start for madrid. lass, pepe(defender) and alonso are preferred.
neuer is overrated. joe hart is miles better. how many goals has neuer conceded in bundesliga, how many has hart conceded?

Foo0l

Hart has conceded 19 goals in 26 games while Neuer has conceded 14 in 23 games

Hart conceded 6 in 6 CL games while Neuer conceded 5 in 6 CL games

Now ask someone around you to compare

klose plays behind gomez . . .gerrard plays behind rooney.
gerrard can play as a supporting striker. who is gotze? another german player brought to light by the german hype machine.
he's good but not great. on balance, cleverley is miles better.

M0r0n in which games has Klose ever played behind Gomez. How long do i have to keep schooling you about European football? You think this is your palmy joint in Ekiti?

Cleverly ko, Stupidly ni

dominated who?
dominated them and they raced to 3 goals at old trafford before united could muster a goal?
are you mentally ill? grin

Aint you pathetic? How many games have Arsenal dominated their opponent yet go down by multiple goals? Example Was Arsenal not dominating Spurs yet went down by 2 goals?  Football isnt meant for f00ls stick to skipping rope  grin grin grin

jardel in 2000 is better than any german striker bar gerd muller.

i saw iker in 2000. he was rubbish.

Seeing on pages of Complete football is different from Seeing live on TV hope you know.


a season later, he was permanently on the bench for cesar sanchez until cesar got injured and there was no one else to play but him.
he became better as he grew in the shirt.

the statement reads dayokanu = dorkkanu. grin

When I said you dont watch football you come here to argue. A season after 1999/2000. Iker casilass was still the number one Keeper at Madrid Guffanti.

It was only in 2001/2002 that Cesar benched him(Casillas) for a while till he(Casilass) came in the final as a sub for Madrid

without a doubt. . . .
kahn and buffon would divide opinions. in 1999, kahn and schmeichel would divide opinions.
messi and ronaldo divide opinions. . . .there are some people who still believe strongly ronaldo is the better player without arguments.

Yet the tool claims a World class player would walk into any team without questions But cant tell us which of Buffon or Kahn would be benched.


this tool has started again with the best 10. what is 10?

and who told you zidane was the unanimous best 10 in the world in that period? are you a fool?
zidane was the best 10 and yet roy keane disgraced him in turin in 1999. what a 10?
would zidane walk into united's 99 treble winning team? best 10 my foot!!!! who would zidane bench then? scholes or keane?


between 1998 and 2003 Zidane won WPOTY 3 freaking times

Roy keane disgraced him means he isnt World class or means he isnt best 10?

You are an insult to m0r0ns I swear. How many times was Kahn disgraced even at his peak, How many times has Cristiano Ronaldo been silenced? How many times has Messi been silenced? World cup 2010 what did they both do?

If you convert your stopidity to kobos you would still be a billionaire in Dollars

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 9:54pm On Mar 01, 2012
i thot class was permanent but form temporary?
i guess u could say zidane had periods when he lost form but to say he lost his class is a bit too much.
and i believe u can now see d drawbacks of ur definition of world class,even d dictionaries don't back u.
1st of all there hv bin very few players in history of football dt could hv WALKED into any team WITHOUT ARGUMENTS.
Pele himself wouldnt hav walked into d galactico team of 1960 without argument.Didi was definitely world class at d time but found it difficult.
a world class player is a  player of high international standard,someone who is regarded as d best or one of the best in d world at his position.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dayokanu(m): 10:01pm On Mar 01, 2012
^^ Let him come and wiggle out of his own stupidity in defining World class

When all his definition fall flat

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