chy101:

@Dayoko, who is your client? ANAMCO? Anybody will just come here on NL to spew gibberish. FYI: you are just a common thug 'agbero' operating in the streets of Ekiti.

ekt_bear:

Heh

Fair enough.

I'm not saying that having large land mass necessarily means anything. Point i'm making is that high pop density doesn't necessarily mean highest pop.

dayokanu:

^^ By official population, The SE is the least

By land mass the SE is the least

Maybe this is due to their migration pattern but the available facts remain that they SE is smaller both in land mass and population

mens dept:

Who says Kaduna has more people than Imo state? Or even any state south of Abuja?

Dede1:

I guess you realize sparsely populated area with large land mass does not indicate high population.

Osiris.211:

Dede1:



I usually do not agree with you but on the above post, I tend to partially agree with the emerging federations. However instead of four, I think five will emerge under the pressure of cultural and traditional proximity coupled with defense pacts.

Firstly, there should be a Republic of Igbo land that is non-negotiable consisting of all the states in Igbo land and negotiated parts of Delta, Rivers, Akwa Ibom, Cross River, Kogi and Benue State.

Or there could be a Republic of Biafra consisting of Abia, Akwa Ibom, Anambra, Bayelsa, Benue, Cross Rivers, Ebonyi, Enugu, Imo, Rivers and parts of Delta State. Also, it will include negotiated parts of Edo, Kogi and Taraba State.

Secondly, there should be Oodua Republic consisting of Oyo, Osun, Lagos, Ogun, Ekiti, Kwara and Ondo State. Negotiated parts include Edo, Kogi and parts of Delta State.

Thirdly, is Sokoto Islamic Caliphate consisting of Sokoto, Kebbi, Zamfara, Katsina and Kano State. Negotiated parts include Kaduna and Niger State.

Fourthly, is Islamic Republic of Borno consisting of Jigawa, Yobe, Borno and Gombe State. Negotiated parts include Adamawa and Bauchi States

Fifthly, is Republic of Middle Belt consisting of Plateau and Nassarawa States. Negotiated parts include Niger, Kaduna, Bauchi, Taraba and Adamawa States.

Please do not cause if you do not like partitions formula.

ranlaen:

Republic of Biafra including parts of edo the whole Niger delta?Why should this tribes want to be part of a country dominated by the Igbos?They did not want to 30+ yrs ago and i hardly see why they should now .
biafra is a Igbo idea so should go without any of the Niger delta .There zero reason to trade one master in Abuja for another in Enugu.
Niger Delta is much better off on its own due to having many minority tribes like ijaw,urhobo,isoko etc with no major tribe having huge numbers.
Simply because it will be hard for one tribe to dominate politically by sheer numbers .
So i hardly see any of this tribes agreeing to such a union at all .I am pretty sure iteskiri not will accept it for one just go ask any iteskiri man if he wants to be part of Biafra .
Look what happened last time Benin was invaded in 1967 they even tried to make their own country on its own ,even though it was helped as a ploy by Ojukwu which was actually a wise tactics.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Benin_(unrecognized_state)

Dede1:


I guess you should look before you leap or else you could break a neck. There are no doubts you had perusal and comprehensible issues. I had like Republic of Igbo land which will stretch to Igwe Ocha and Igwe Nga. We are talking about a country with solid army willing to maintain law and order within its territory. You can have your day dream and so-called Niger Delta divided into two.

Again Biafra will stretch deep after Agbor and north-eastern part of Edo towards Idah in Kogi State in order to guarantee military buffer zoon. As stated in my previous post, some parts of Edo State is negotiable because war had to be avoided. Edo has every right to join Oodua Republic. I do not want any part of Delta or Edo State which is non-Igbo in Biafra.   

GAR3TH:

@ Dede1

You do know there is a BIG difference between igbo land and were igbos can be found. In reality there isn't a clear definition to what igbo land is as in the case for some other tribes, thats why you see people say igbo land is were igbos are found which is wrong. For example, northern part of delta state is technically edo land since that area was under control by the bini kingdom before the British came. It was just before Nigeria got independence that you started seeing igbos migrate there. Back in the 1800s, the 1914 and even up to 1991, asaba and the other town in the area were only a small village. Same thing goes for other areas such as port harcourt/ niger delta, lagos, abuja, etc. Just because igbos live there and are found in masses doesn't necessarily make it Igbo land. If anything the real extent of igbo land's boundaries is best represented by the boundaries of the Nri Kingdom.

Dede1:

You are not qualified to tell Igbo man where Igbo land started and stopped. I tried to make sense out of your drivel but failed. If Igbo person is a native of a land beyond Agbor, it is Igbo land unless you want to go to war with Republic of Igbo land to say otherwise.

ranlaen:

So you are saying the Niger delta need igbos to "protect us"?
pretty sure we can afford to protect ourselves and with funding can build a pretty modern army.
No offence but its you thats day dreaming if you think you can just annex places like Idah .
anyhow not like you even have liver to fight .
Its easy to sit there and sound tough behind a keyboard let me see what you can do with a gun facing tanks .
talk is cheap,just accept you were born a Nigerian you will die a Nigerian sooner you leave your fantasy behind sooner you can make a proper life for yourself.
Spending your days on this planet drawing meaniless maps will not help you  ,past Nairaland forum no one even know you or care.Your fellow igbo brothers are busy making it out there not wasting time dreaming of some country that does not exist or will ever exist.
all this years you spent on nairaland talking about your new country no progress but your mates are using their time properly and building lives for themselves.
you can throw all the insults you like (i checked your past posts and all you do is insult) simply because you are hiding behind a keyboard but to do anything of what you scream here in real world you cannot .

GAR3TH:


So you don't know nor have any evidence of what exactly is igbo land or its boundaries, so you treating to go to war, who is fooling who. . . . .

so according to you lagos and abuja is also igbo land since igbos live and are native there lol.

Dede1:

I guess you are not ridiculously naïve to insinuate that Yoruba and Nupe territories as Lagos and Abuja respectively are Igbo land. This is what I meant you are woefully unqualified to tell Igbo person where Aligbo started and ended.

dayokanu:

Instead of splitting the North into 2, they dont have a problem being one.

Rather the 5th country should be a Niger Delta country which would consist of all the SS states That way no ethnic group would have a large majority and it would be more equitable.

Compared to Joining Biafra or Oduduwa where they would be an almost insignificant minority

E.g If Oduduwa was to include Edo and Delta, Yorubas would be the overwhelming majority close to 70%

That means Yorubas can dominate easily and even win an election on their own without seeking the approval of the Urhobo or Isoko or Itsekiri ot Esan or other groups making the union

Dede1:

I guess you are not ridiculously naïve to insinuate that Yoruba and Nupe territories as Lagos and Abuja respectively are Igbo land. This is what I meant you are woefully unqualified to tell Igbo person where Aligbo started and ended.

Dede1:

You are not qualified to tell Igbo man where Igbo land started and stopped. I tried to make sense out of your drivel but failed. If Igbo person is a native of a land beyond Agbor, it is Igbo land unless you want to go to war with Republic of Igbo land to say otherwise.

Da infamous:

Am from asaba any body that want to claim my land will not win delta igbos want to join their SE brothers don't be deluded pls guys we rather join our people  with similar cultures

GAR3TH:

Hence why I said Igbo and many other tribes, All this Ethnic land talk is all made up, there is no evidence to say that so and so ethnic group owns such land. The only evidence that actually hold true is the borders of ancient kingdoms and clans. Other than that people are just talking with out reason when they say they own a piece of land. its like me going to ghana or new york and saying that is now GAR3THLand just because i live there. Yes I agree that people of so and so ethnic group are currently there but it doesn't necessarily make it there land.

Dede1:

You have sounded like a marked stranger in whatever land your forbearers called home. The village I called home, the land belongs to my people and nobody could lay claim to it. Even people from my maternal village, which is next door, can not lay hand on any piece of land in my village talk less a person of different ethnicity.

Dede1:

Have you heard about small but mighty?