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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by koreanlord: 9:02pm On Jan 31
uwaifou:

FBN quest is 22.60% :-
ok boss...please, does fbn quest have a DIY portal like stanbic?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Macktaob(m): 9:06pm On Jan 31
alezzy13:



Sigh šŸ˜” Once I saw your message I was willing to bet my dollar it was GT.

It's amazing - sadly so - how GT just dey fall hand.

Because of the exact scenario you painted, I stopped using them for TB. I just got tired of thier nonsense. Mind you this a bank I used for over 15yrs now, and they were certainly not like this.

I really don't know if it's thier current crop of account officers or they still reeling from effects of the last upgrade. šŸ˜”
Mad, experienced same from GT in December through beginning of January till I splurged half of the funds on Detty December spree. Even though na for their side the funds matured come, make them comot am back for renewal becomes dribbling skill test for them. No time I moved all funds to Providus. Once the one maturing by March gets credited, Iā€™m done with the bank. Of course a tadpole in their ocean like me might not be missed.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by mymadam(m): 9:17pm On Jan 31
Macktaob:

...till I splurged half of the funds on Detty December spree....
šŸ˜‚
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by heavenisreal18: 9:54pm On Jan 31
[quote author=Kindheartedd post=133952612]
Exactly their ways they even turn themselves to another thing before they reply message







Open another account and move your funds. I am also changing my account officer who will put a hard one on him as I will be leaving a negative review for him. I hate negative energy from anyone who is supposed to provide me a service as they are they to provide a service and they will be paid at the end of the month.

I do my best to provide the best service ot my customers, so I hate to experience anything less.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Kindheartedd: 5:41am On Feb 01
alezzy13:



Sigh šŸ˜” Once I saw your message I was willing to bet my dollar it was GT.

It's amazing - sadly so - how GT just dey fall hand.

Because of the exact scenario you painted, I stopped using them for TB. I just got tired of thier nonsense. Mind you this a bank I used for over 15yrs now, and they were certainly not like this.

I really don't know if it's thier current crop of account officers or they still reeling from effects of the last upgrade. šŸ˜”

Oh no, he asked which I finally used. Gtbank didn't mess up with me.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by alezzy13: 8:05am On Feb 01
Kindheartedd:


Oh no, he asked which I finally used. Gtbank didn't mess up with me.

Oh. My bad. Guess we all have different experiences. .In my case they've really fall my hand.

Wish you all the best with them!
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Joyful365: 3:02pm On Feb 01
Bennycollins:
Hi esteemed forumites.
I need help from those that know.
Zenith bank subscribed me for 340+ days Tbills at the rate of about 19+ % . I had chosen 22% rate in the form with instructions that any thing less should not be accepted to me, but the did everything without consulting me.
So I applied that the investment be cancelled.and the have kept back 309k as penalty, according to the Operations Head. Principal amount was 10m and 1703000 had been credited as upfront.
How do I handle this, as 300k is too much for me to lose like that.
Thanks

You're not supposed to lose anything apart from 30% of accrued interest and any transaction fee charged by the bank.

Using 19% and 10,000,000 for 340 days;

U would have been debited around N8,100,000 while + or - N1,900,000 is your upfront interest payment.

around 5588 will accrue daily for 340 days to make around 1,900,000 and at the end of one year, 10,000,000 is supposed to be paid back to you.

Since you cancelled the transaction early (within 24 hours), around 8,090,000 is what should be returned back to you, taking cognizance of whatever transaction or processing fee charged by your bank because no interest has accrued on the investment.

30% of accrued interest is charged if you liquidate your treasury bill before 30 days minimum holding period.

In your 10,000,000 treasury bill amount with 8,100,000 deducted and around 1,900,000 paid as interest for 340 days, the daily interest is around 5588.

If you hold for 5 days and decided to cancel the treasury bill, 27,941 will be the accrued interest... 30% of 27,941 will be deducted as penalty charge... The rest will be added back to your 8,100,000 and credited to you. Bank will remove their processing fee.

I hope this is clear. Don't allow any useless bank steal your money especially when they don't know how to liquidate the treasury bill early but foolishly go sell it off in secondary market at a discounted price.

In any case, go back to your bank and sit down with the operations manager or whoever gave you that cock and bull story and demand for your money or tell them you'll report the matter to CBN, EFCC and DMO and take them to court.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by DAramis: 3:09pm On Feb 01
Allboiz:


I had to copy CBN in my mail today and they started calling me. My money is back. Very wicked people using our money for their needs.
Drop the cbn mail for knowledge purpose. Might come handy in the future over certain issues with bank.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by digitalinvestor(m): 3:13pm On Feb 01
Hello Nairalander,

Has anyone invested with DLM Capital Group Limited before, and what was the experience?

DLM group is in the market to raise ā‚¦5 Billion Series 1 (Tranche A and Tranche B) Commercial Papers (CP) Notes under its ā‚¦20 Billion CP Issuance Programme.
180 days discount rate of 24.6028% yields 28%, and 270 days discount rate of 25.2173% yields 31%

The Group is rated ā€˜A1ā€™ (Short-Term) by DataPro, and ā€˜A3ā€™ (Short-Term) by GCR Ratings
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Allboiz: 4:45pm On Feb 01
DAramis:

Drop the cbn mail for knowledge purpose. Might come handy in the future over certain issues with bank.

contactcbn@cbn.gov.ng
cpd@cbn.gov.ng

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by RayRay06677(m): 6:25pm On Feb 01
digitalinvestor:
Hello Nairalander,

Has anyone invested with DLM Capital Group Limited before, and what was the experience?

DLM group is in the market to raise ā‚¦5 Billion Series 1 (Tranche A and Tranche B) Commercial Papers (CP) Notes under its ā‚¦20 Billion CP Issuance Programme.
180 days discount rate of 24.6028% yields 28%, and 270 days discount rate of 25.2173% yields 31%

The Group is rated ā€˜A1ā€™ (Short-Term) by DataPro, and ā€˜A3ā€™ (Short-Term) by GCR Ratings


Reliable, did successful investment before.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Okupevi1985: 8:37pm On Feb 01
Hi everyone, is there any dollar investment like TB with CBN?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by drealj: 10:22pm On Feb 01
Joyful365:


You're not supposed to lose anything apart from 30% of accrued interest and any transaction fee charged by the bank.

Using 19% and 10,000,000 for 340 days;

U would have been debited around N8,100,000 while + or - N1,900,000 is your upfront interest payment.
Exactly. Sometimes I wonder if Nowadays banker even go to school
around 5588 will accrue daily for 340 days to make around 1,900,000 and at the end of one year, 10,000,000 is supposed to be paid back to you.

Since you cancelled the transaction early (within 24 hours), around 8,090,000 is what should be returned back to you, taking cognizance of whatever transaction or processing fee charged by your bank because no interest has accrued on the investment.

30% of accrued interest is charged if you liquidate your treasury bill before 30 days minimum holding period.

In your 10,000,000 treasury bill amount with 8,100,000 deducted and around 1,900,000 paid as interest for 340 days, the daily interest is around 5588.

If you hold for 5 days and decided to cancel the treasury bill, 27,941 will be the accrued interest... 30% of 27,941 will be deducted as penalty charge... The rest will be added back to your 8,100,000 and credited to you. Bank will remove their processing fee.

I hope this is clear. Don't allow any useless bank steal your money especially when they don't know how to liquidate the treasury bill early but foolishly go sell it off in secondary market at a discounted price.

In any case, go back to your bank and sit down with the operations manager or whoever gave you that cock and bull story and demand for your money or tell them you'll report the matter to CBN, EFCC and DMO and take them to court.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by drealj: 10:24pm On Feb 01
Joyful365:


You're not supposed to lose anything apart from 30% of accrued interest and any transaction fee charged by the bank.

Using 19% and 10,000,000 for 340 days;

U would have been debited around N8,100,000 while + or -
around 5588 will accrue daily for 340 days to make around 1,900,000 and at the end of one year, 10,000,000 is supposed to be paid back to you.

Since you cancelled the transaction early (within 24 hours), around 8,090,000 is what should be returned back to you, taking cognizance of whatever transaction or processing fee charged by your bank because no interest has accrued on the investment.

30% of accrued interest is charged if you liquidate your treasury bill before 30 days minimum holding period.

In your 10,000,000 treasury bill amount with 8,100,000 deducted and around 1,900,000 paid as interest for 340 days, the daily interest is around 5588.

If you hold for 5 days and decided to cancel the treasury bill, 27,941 will be the accrued interest... 30% of 27,941 will be deducted as penalty charge... The rest will be added back to your 8,100,000 and credited to you. Bank will remove their processing fee.

I hope this is clear. Don't allow any useless bank steal your money especially when they don't know how to liquidate the treasury bill early but foolishly go sell it off in secondary market at a discounted price.

In any case, go back to your bank and sit down with the operations manager or whoever gave you that cock and bull story and demand for your money or tell them you'll report the matter to CBN, EFCC and DMO and take them to court.
Exactly. Sometimes I wonder if Nowadays banker even go to school
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Adewunmibaba(m): 11:44pm On Feb 01
Odunharry:
Next wednesday is treasury bill primary market auction.

Kindly reach out to your bank early and give a clear instruction.

You can reach out to me also lets open an investment account with you and bid for you.
09070058289(WhatsApp/Call)
How does this stuffs work?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by NL1960: 12:08pm On Feb 02
drealj:
Exactly. Sometimes I wonder if Nowadays banker even go to school

You need to see the way they will be arguing with you and be saying that they are bankers of repute with so many years of banking experience. A customer service office who only gives you a form to fill to open an account or issue you an ATM card will be claiming a banker of repute with so many years of banking experience. Even a Telller will say the same thing.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by uwaifou(m): 1:30pm On Feb 02
Pls does anyone knows the cost implications of stopping treasury bills after ten 10 months?

I invested one million /365 days tenor.

How much will it cost if am stopping it after 10 months?, interest was 24.3% when i bought
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Joyful365: 1:49pm On Feb 02
uwaifou:
Pls does anyone knows the cost implications of stopping treasury bills after ten 10 months?

I invested one million /365 days tenor.

How much will it cost if am stopping it after 10 months?, interest was 24.3% when i bought

You'll lose the interest of the remaining two months and the rest will be credited to you, minus any processing charge.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Odunharry(m): 11:11pm On Feb 02
Adewunmibaba:

How does this stuffs work?
Treasury bills is you giving your money to government. Its a short term investment ie doesn't exceed a year and it's a low risk/risk free investment. You can do this by partaking in the primary auction coming up this Wednesday using your bank. You can also access it in the secondary market.

Contact your bank for more info or You can also chat me let's open an investment account and get started.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Odunharry(m): 11:13pm On Feb 02
Primary Market Auction is taking place this Wednesday. Do not forget to submit your instructions with your bank or investment house.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Fynebouy: 10:43am On Feb 03
Hello please can anyone help me. My partner invested in TB through firstbank. Asked that the interest be paid upfront and reinvested. The receipt from FBN states only the original sum and nothing abour the interest or its reinvestment. She has been trying to get information on this interest but nothing is yielding. How should she address this with the bank?

Grateful for someone to provide clarity please
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by koreanlord: 11:35am On Feb 03
Fynebouy:
Hello please can anyone help me. My partner invested in TB through firstbank. Asked that the interest be paid upfront and reinvested. The receipt from FBN states only the original sum and nothing abour the interest or its reinvestment. She has been trying to get information on this interest but nothing is yielding. How should she address this with the bank?

Grateful for someone to provide clarity please
Tell the person to visit the bank in person....thats the best way to tackle the situation

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by enque(f): 1:16pm On Feb 03
Go to the bank branch where the TB was processed.
Your TB certificate should state the capital, interest and tenor.

Fynebouy:
Hello please can anyone help me. My partner invested in TB through firstbank. Asked that the interest be paid upfront and reinvested. The receipt from FBN states only the original sum and nothing abour the interest or its reinvestment. She has been trying to get information on this interest but nothing is yielding. How should she address this with the bank?

Grateful for someone to provide clarity please

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Bennycollins: 3:07pm On Feb 03
Joyful365:


You're not supposed to lose anything apart from 30% of accrued interest and any transaction fee charged by the bank.

Using 19% and 10,000,000 for 340 days;

U would have been debited around N8,100,000 while + or - N1,900,000 is your upfront interest payment.

around 5588 will accrue daily for 340 days to make around 1,900,000 and at the end of one year, 10,000,000 is supposed to be paid back to you.

Since you cancelled the transaction early (within 24 hours), around 8,090,000 is what should be returned back to you, taking cognizance of whatever transaction or processing fee charged by your bank because no interest has accrued on the investment.

30% of accrued interest is charged if you liquidate your treasury bill before 30 days minimum holding period.

In your 10,000,000 treasury bill amount with 8,100,000 deducted and around 1,900,000 paid as interest for 340 days, the daily interest is around 5588.

If you hold for 5 days and decided to cancel the treasury bill, 27,941 will be the accrued interest... 30% of 27,941 will be deducted as penalty charge... The rest will be added back to your 8,100,000 and credited to you. Bank will remove their processing fee.

I hope this is clear. Don't allow any useless bank steal your money especially when they don't know how to liquidate the treasury bill early but foolishly go sell it off in secondary market at a discounted price.

In any case, go back to your bank and sit down with the operations manager or whoever gave you that cock and bull story and demand for your money or tell them you'll report the matter to CBN, EFCC and DMO and take them to court.
Thank you very much for this reply.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by RayRay06677(m): 5:21pm On Feb 03
Fynebouy:
Hello please can anyone help me. My partner invested in TB through firstbank. Asked that the interest be paid upfront and reinvested. The receipt from FBN states only the original sum and nothing abour the interest or its reinvestment. She has been trying to get information on this interest but nothing is yielding. How should she address this with the bank?

Grateful for someone to provide clarity
please

You cannot pay upfront and reinvest same interest.

When was this instruction given, if failed bid, it will remain unchanged.

The masters can add more insight
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by freeman67: 6:11pm On Feb 03
RayRay06677:


You cannot pay upfront and reinvest same interest.

When was this instruction given, if failed bid, it will remain unchanged.

The masters can add more insight

I think that's where the issue is.

What is obtainable that I know of is to ask them to reinvest the interest with principal at the initial point of subscription. However telling them to reinvest upfront after it's paid will mean them investing the principal in the primary market and maybe reinvest the interest in secondary market or in the next auction.

That said, I have always adviced like @enque said above that whenever one is in doubt, the best thing to do is to request for the certificate/proof of investment. Which is what carries all the terms of your contract with them. Infact even if you are not in doubt, you need to have it. So he should ask for it.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Shalom428: 7:25pm On Feb 03
BOND

Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Fynebouy: 7:37pm On Feb 03
Thank you very much. Actually they did not provide the proof of investment hence the confusion. She will ask for it.

Another question please: is there 30 days TB?




freeman67:


I think that's where the issue is.

What is obtainable that I know of is to ask them to reinvest the interest with principal at the initial point of subscription. However telling them to reinvest upfront after it's paid will mean them investing the principal in the primary market and maybe reinvest the interest in secondary market or in the next auction.

That said, I have always adviced like @enque said above that whenever one is in doubt, the best thing to do is to request for the certificate/proof of investment. Which is what carries all the terms of your contract with them. Infact even if you are not in doubt, you need to have it. So he should ask for it.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by GodgraciousR: 11:28pm On Feb 03
freeman67:


Like someone said above, you have done the right thing. Thank God you have 2 accounts, the initiative and swiftness to do that.

The problem actually is that some accounts officers need your money always to remain in your account for them to meet personal targets set for them by the bank. They also prefer that you should do a fixed/term deposit with them too instead of moving the money to TB. So when it comes to TB, they try to frustrate your efforts so that the money can remain there.
Very true
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by RayRay06677(m): 4:51am On Feb 04
Fynebouy:
Thank you very much. Actually they did not provide the proof of investment hence the confusion. She will ask for it.

Another question please: is there 30 days TB?





Only possible at the secondary market
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by haywhy(m): 10:42pm On Feb 04
alezzy13:


Well better late than never. But this something almost every other firm has been operating since

Thanks for sharing this, I've just had a look and it looks good. You mentioned other firms are already doing this, could you please mention the other reputable ones?

It'll be nice to have a single place to trade treasury bills, bonds as well as Index/ETFs. I downloaded I-invest but the 10% withholding tax put me off since I can avoid these charges by doing my T. Bills directly through the bank. I also struggled with the customer service when I needed my account deleted and this also concerned me.

Please any recommendation of a reputable platform that is comparable to BluNest would be highly appreciated. Also, is BluNest replacing the other Stanbic investment account platform?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Emzedz: 1:42am On Feb 05
I just strolled into accessbank n asked for tbills. Those guys get mind tell me say na 50million n above or I do secondary market.. I jeje ask for their rates.. it was so low as I suspected..
Withdrew some funds n got d fvvck off.

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