haka_nai:

Finally more vioce from the PDP northern clique.FOr me,The opposition and other northern activist/groups have suggested same earlier but not the PDP leading clique of northern NIgeria.Okay president GEj and NASS can we now start co-ordinating and calling for suggestions on how to go about it.

haka_nai:

@BEAF
ACF has already shown her willingness to go with it since it became an Issue.So they are in.Why i suggested the NASS is simple they believe there role is duplicated.They feel the treats more.Lastly i know the opppositions(ACN,CPC,APGA etc) have indicated at different times there readiness and support for that.The bulk of the resistance is some how within PDP and the powers that hold it together.SO my take is this, if GEj can say yes and then gradually isolate the players who don't want it.We could drive the SNC to it goals.They are politicians and won't want to be isolated and rendered powerless.That brings us to the SNC players.Who shoulod represent the various peoples and interest groups in Nigeria.I see it this is just a start.Before PDP will do the governors select representatives.,which is more of NASS.loyalist that can be controlled. You asked if the northern coalition of concerned notherners are key players in north?We don't care right now.Because even in the south the key players are still mute.The issue is are they from the north or south.If yes,then when they say it is dialogue under SNC we want then so be it abeg.We should look at people at various levels.Not from only leadership or cliques.More over a key political element of the north ACF and some political elements have spoken.Also leaders of tradition and peoples have suggested same.The issue is would it truly change our situation.Are we sure it will not be hijacked by PDP or political parties again.
I don't see governors selecting the right people.It will be politics as usual.This time every and all must be represented.All tribes and faiths.Forget party and forget politicians in power.People with the passion and true agenda for a better relationship and progress of there people be nominated.Simple!!!I pray we allow this work and come out of it truly better.

But they said the ‘lopsidedness’ in the polity and the economy must be part of the issues for discussion at the talks.

Da infamous:


"The national question here raises two posers. One, do we want to stay together as a people? It is possible that the answer to this will be yes, due to the prolonged interaction the various ethnic groups have had together over the years since they were lumped together by the Britons.

diluminati:

every talk of an snc will be utter rubbish until Jonawamper is pushed out of the way. remove jonathan first and then we can have the snc we so desire

haka_nai:

@beaf
Honestly i feel it is fair that in the previous unconcluded resource issues.A gradual increase in resource control by the owners be encouraged.I support that without doubt.Have you notice even thought the arrangement didn't get a final nod,since then the useless northern governors have not made do with the ones given them.
My take is this forget our backwardness and forget the silly clamour for resource control.Let everyboduy have a giant control in the resources they have.It will not help us if keep feeding this governors.They shoudl work towards generating revenue or resign.Some came to power and found industires working and gradually they watched them collapse with out any concern.So please and please it will help us up north it that free oyel money is stopped or reduced so the owners are happy and then northern governors/leaders are motivated to act.
There may be a short backlash but we would be better off afterwards.Its called survival i tell you.If they realise all this they would simply invest and attach serious priority to there resources.Otherwise they would continue to wait monthly and have meetings asking for monies always.They should understand they have to survive without it period.they most initiate the programs to take us there.They must have an economic vision.If Dangote can invest 500K in the 70s and become richer than most of this states from agro products packaging only,then they shoudl be ashamed with the billions they have collected.If it means you empower people with a little off you budget.from scholarships to setting up industries and encouraging your people to embrace the idea.Yobe satte once invested in the stock markert to generate money and it worked for them at one point in time.Katsina also did some bank arrangements and project ideas thgat have saved the state monies and finishged projects at record time.etc Today am into ICT and alot of my northern friends and i can tell its about trend,intellect and skills.With little to do with capital intensive starting.The north is also moving to ICT in government.With alot to be done.If they can manage resources and build ICT,a market can be made for the teaming unemployed
from the inception of democracy we were told about gum arabic in the sahel savannah areas of the far north.to stop desertification and generating revenue.Where are they ?This is something that has tremedious dual use.How much is a hummer or luxury car?convert that to trees.They said this could rake in billions enough to manage atleast 9 states.We have granite rocks.we have soild minerals.We have agro products.why not convert g-oil to high standards,corn to finished products from industries up north.What happens everyday is farmer sell it without government getting tax, down south to industries to process and send all over the nation again and revenue is generated.We can't make noodles,we can't make tin tomatoe paste,we can't make corn flakes or oats or cereals,we can't make sausage,we can't make feeds,we can't make textiles,we can't make jewelries,We can't train the teaming graduates in to ICT,we can't make leather products of high standard for designers world wide.despite our lifestock,our shoes and textiles are mostly made from Aba. c,mon this governors are dafts period.
NO ! NO!! NO!!! The north most work and it must get rolling.

Beaf:

Lol! You've got loads of ideas man!
The end result we should all gun for is finished goods with added value; that will generate more income, expertise and employment benefits; thats just so right.
Even if we are farming tomatoes, let us can them; if what we have is beans, let us learn to export akara. I am damn sure there must be a way to package suya for export etc.

The plain truth is that switching off oil money today will only affect state civil servants who are not that many. The common man will not even know that money has stopped flowing from Abuja, because the average governor shares the loot amongst friends and family and puts the rest straight in the bank. Does the market woman know when the oil price has risen, does it lessen her burden of poverty? No.

Toaskarity:

hakai nai, you have a lot over there and may God bless you for that! When people mostly from south south talk about this snc, what comes to the mind of every other Nigeria is that the ppl in ND are greedy(im not form Nd) infact even some illitrate ND thinks its there opportunity to have their resource all themselves and be all rich or better than others, but all these are not the real reason for the snc. Personally snc will tackle so many issues in Nigeria that so many people cant imagined, it will unite the ordinary Nigerians in the street by knowing whom their real enemy is!
At first, snc will affect surly every corner of Nigeria se,sw,nd,etc apart from lagos. Even the aba made you talking about, do you know that the govt of abia can create more money for its govt and state from the aba made but guess what everybody wants money from abuja!!
Its right time for us to[b] kick laziness and corruption [/b] out of this country, which will yield result for[b] less poverty so our children can be rank intellectually with outside world and atlast remove religious extremist in our mist then there will be no more killing because he/she is not from my tribe/religion.[/b]

haka_nai:

All the above can be solved by the rival of all state economy.The different states will even interact to solve issues with the parties benefitting.

quote]Ak47mann and @phreakabit

Even when we are talking about the serious issue of serparation in peace and having different countries , out of habit you cant resist hurling insults at the aboki, almajiri, goro chewing mallams. It is of course hard to change habits especially those caused by the gutter upbringing you guys must have suffered. Any way, away from all that my post is to congratulate the northerners in advance for the definite beginning of separation from the south and to encourage our brethren whose eyes are now wide open to the great advantages ahead when we have the true independence and have no southerners without visas in the north.
1. Resource;
It is right for me to start with resource, control of which has been rammed into our ears ad infinitum. Oil is a natural resource that is in vogue and extremely valuable within the last 2 centuries because fossil fuel is used to drive engines. There are numerous other natural and equally precious resources obtained from the land. But you have to have the land first before finding out what it may contain. Land on its own is a natural recourse of profound importance after all it is the pieces of land joined together that make the world. We all know the importance of land and what misery and conflicts arise from lack of it. My Igbo friends are well aware of the importance of land. The deadly land war that claimed 50 lives in Ebonyi state is a recent reminder to how precious land is to people.
I will remind you that the north has an abundance of this resource. Oyo state is the state with the largest land area among the southern states but its 28.454 sq km places it at no. 14 in Nigeria with the first 13 coming from the North and Niger state (76.363sqkm) is 2.6 times the size of Oyo state and 10 times the size of the largest Igbo state –Enugu (7.161sqkm). The entire 5 Igbo states amount to only half the size of Borno state. Compare the ratio of population per sq meter for the agricultural state of Kwara 64.4 persons per sq meter to that of Anambra State 863.3 persons per sq meter even before they all move back there.

@Chuqudy
These northern leaders are indeed trying in their effort to disorganize the country and making it ungovernable by GEJ.