mkmyers45:

Buzuu-gee is right 

We dont have enough regular posters who can make this work and as you have rightly pointed out only you can't do it and its defo not a project for two or three but im in if we have enough support,   , there always has to be a Devil's Advocate

buzugee:

how are ya chief ? yeah this project needs tonnes of people to make it exciting. anything short of that and it will be a slug

mkmyers45:

I forsee a thread that may not last due to fights,arguments and what have you not, anyway where pastor kun,AIO,JO,Frosbel etc etc

#EnoughDoctrinalBashing

Bwoodlt:

I believe if we start something and the few of us here participate accordingly, then within few days it might make it to the front page,  Lets not be discouraged wit the no of posters. The lord will finish what He has started. Ours is to do our part and leave the rest to Him.

Just my thought  

goshen360:

Hebrews 1:1-3 NKJV

1. God, who at various times and in various ways spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets,

2. has in these last days spoken to us by [His] Son, whom He has appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the worlds;

3. who being the brightness of [His] glory and the express image of His person, and upholding all things by the word of His power, when He had by Himself purged our sins, sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high,

The Bible is God speaking to man. It is the mind of our creator, God speaking his mind to us in our fellowship with him, which is one of the main reason why man was created. God wanted a family, so he created a man. Looking at the bible in general or in context, the bible is divided into three (3) different ages of time. Below are the divisions:

1. The Father or Patriarch Age: Genesis to Exodus 19.

This age and period existed from Genesis to exodus 19, where the children of Israel was free from Egyptian slavery and the nation of Israel formed and then the Law was given to them. This Age and period is also known or called the pre-law age. During this time, God spoke to man through fathers or patriarchs  of each family and sometimes through angels in order to communicate God's will, testament or covenant.

A testament simply means, a will, contract, an agreement or a covenant which God established with/for man. The Old testament Laws were for people who lived before and during Christ. The new testament Laws of Christ are for all of us who came after the death of Christ. The cross divided the old and new testament. Therefore, the bible as it regards to old testament is not a set of book from Genesis to Malachi but rather Exodus 20 to Gospel of John in context.

2. The Israelites or Jewish Age. Exodus 20 - Death of Christ.

God in his covenant (testament) with the seed of Abraham could not establish His will or testament with the children of Israel when they are in bondage or ruler ship of Pharaoh in Egypt. God had to first bring them out first to fulfill His covenant or agreement he made with Abraham. Exodus 20 accomplished that purpose and the nation of Israel was established. During this period, many things took place such as, the law was given, God appointed Prophets, Kings, Judges, etc hence we have books of the bible such as the prophets, kings, wisdom books etc. Christ was born under the law or this Jewish age and lived under the law. During this time of Christ living under the law, Christ was also establishing the new law which will take effect after His death and will thereafter be called the new testament.

"A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another; as I have loved you, that you also love one another. "By this all will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another." John 13:34-35, NKJV.

Hence we see that the new commandment or new testament is based on the message of LOVE. This love can then be interpreted or spread into many topics but the central message of Christ to us is LOVE.


3. The Christian Age. Acts of the Apostles to Revelation.

This is the third age and time. It is named after Christ. It is the last and final age. This is the age and times we are today and will continue till the return of Christ. In this current age, there is a kingdom life. The kingdom of God or the kingdom of heaven. We will get there as we progress.

Biblically and speaking the truth, we do not have anything to do with the laws and pre-law EXCEPT for things such as faith, love and obedience as it is also found in the our new commandment/testament. 1 Cor. 10:11 says, These things happened to them (the Israelites) as examples and were written down as warnings for us, on whom the fulfillment of the ages has come.

For the law, having a shadow of the good things to come, [and] not the very image of the things, can never with these same sacrifices, which they offer continually year by year, make those who approach perfect. Heb. 10:1, NKJV

By calling this covenant "new," he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and aging will soon disappear. Heb 8:13. (HAS IT COMPLETELY DISAPPEARED?)

For this reason Christ is the mediator of a new covenant, that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance--now that he has died as a ransom to set them free from the sins committed under the first covenant. In the case of a will, it is necessary to prove the death of the one who made it, because a will is in force only when somebody has died; it never takes effect while the one who made it is living. Heb 9:15-17.


and when he found him, he brought him to Antioch. So for a whole year Barnabas and Saul met with the church and taught great numbers of people. The disciples were called Christians first at Antioch. Acts 11: 26

HOWEVER, THE ABOVE DOES NOT MEAN WE SHOULD NOT READ THE OLD TESTAMENT ANYMORE. THE OLD TESTAMENT HAS MANY ADVANTAGES OF READING IT AS IT GIVES US BACKGROUND AND INSIGHT TO THE NEW TESTAMENT [b]BUT WE ARE NOT BOUND BY IT'S LAWS AND PENALTIES ANYMORE[/b].

mkmyers45:

I dont think your above statement in bold is fair, Many laws in the Old testament are still binding to this day. Abi do you want to discredit Leviticus and Deuteronomy esp?

FXKing2012:

Great idea but I've got suggestions: 1) Why not let's choose a topic per week - just like we do in church - in order to give order to the whole thing;
2) We could mail Seun to put it on the front page in order to draw participants;
3) We mail/invite the regular Christian contributors such as joagbaje, newmi, mabell, etc etc

buzugee:

i concur. old testament laws are still binding. the sacrificial laws however have been fulfilled by the messiah as the sacrificial lamb.  and the new convenant was made so as to include all the other nations as spiritual israelites. the old convenant was for the lineage israelites, which we (shemitic nubian africans) are a part of whether we care to accept it or not

however some of those laws cannot be fulfilled today because we are living in the era of the gentiles and scripture says render unto caesar what is caesars. scripture also says obey the laws of the land. as such we are bound by the laws of the land in which we reside. if you try stoning someone to death you will recieve the death penalty in texas  render unto texas what is to texas (obey the laws of the land ).

goshen360:

@ buzugee and mkmyers45

My understand is, Jesus summed all the Laws together into two: Matt 22:35-40, NKJV

Then one of them, a lawyer (An expert in the Law), asked [Him a question], testing Him, and saying, "Teacher, which [is] the great commandment in the law?" Jesus said to him, "'You shall love the LORD your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.' "This is [the] first and great commandment. "And [the] second [is] like it: 'You shall love your neighbor as yourself.' "On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets."

Love the Lord your God and Love your neighbour as Yourself. On this hang the Prophets and the law. What this means is, when you love God, you will simply not break all other laws. How many of the laws can we even remember? When we love God in our heart, we will not think of rebelling against the commandments of God in His word.

Secondly, when we Love our neighbours as Ourselves, we will not do evil or harm them. Nobody hates his/her own self. If you can't killl yourself because you love yourself, you won't think of killing your neighbours. This is my understanding. Except I will learn new things from you guys. Am open minded and this is the reason for bible studies.

for the law made nothing perfect; on the other hand, [there is the] bringing in of a better hope, through which we draw near to God. Heb. 7:19, NKJV

buzugee:

so basically by hanging all his commandments on 2 laws, he basically covered all the bases. if you love the lord you will not break ANY of his laws

goshen360:

@ buzugee and mkmyers45

Love the Lord your God and Love your neighbour as Yourself. On this hang the Prophets and the law. What this means is, when you love God, you will simply not break all other laws. How many of the laws can we even remember? When we love God in our heart, we will not think of rebelling against the commandments of God in His word.

goshen360:

Basically, we are saying the same in different understanding. Very clear now my brother. Let's move on.

buzugee:

you know eating snails pork shrimps and lobster is breaking one of his laws right he put those animals in the world to clean up his ecosystem. which of those do you eat goshen ? honest answer please

FXKing2012:

Great idea but I've got suggestions: 1) Why not let's choose a topic per week - just like we do in
3) We mail/invite the regular Christian contributors such as joagbaje, etc etc