LoJ:

I was expecting that one. As usual, Satan deviates what GOD initiates. If you know the story, it'll enough for you to understand...

LoJ:

Hello Brother Buzugee. I've given elements and arguments of discussion, don't just come and state out things that way. We are not in catholic catechism.

"What is expressed without proof can be denied without proof" - Euclide

The puritans are not satanic because you claim it. You're very wrong. Even if white men are edomites as you claim, the bible says: "Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons: But in EVERY NATION he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him" Acts 10: 34-35 King James Version.

So, Even considering you're right concerning the white people, it is by their deeds and the fear of GOD that we recognize righteous men. Study a bit of their history. Study who was Jonathan Edwards. Learn how the puritans refused the comfort of sin and iniquity in London, to go in the wilderness because of the search for righteousness and justice. See how they were men of integrity and right. See how they loved each other and were concerned about moral standards in education.

If they were not righteous, then tell me, WHO IS DO YOU BELIEVE A MAN IS RIGHTEOUS BECAUSE OF THE COLOR? IF YES, THEN YOU NEED TO GET BACK TO THE PRESENCE OF GOD AND LEARN FROM HIM THE PRINCIPLES OF THE KINGDOM.

Regards!

Lion-EL of JESUS

buJu-234:
Nigeria have some of the richest pastors in the world
holds some of the biggest Christian gathering in world
have the biggest crusade gathering in the world
have one of the biggest TV ministries in the world
have more Christians that china & India combine
99% religious people.
pray to God that many developed nations in the world etc...


my friend; Good leadership is nt a function of going to church or not...

its a function of the person involved ok

pretty_boi: Are there more righteous people in the u.s. than there are Nigeria? Na we religious pass o...

buJu-234:
Are there more righteous people in the u.s. than there are Nigeria? Na we religious pass o...

same question i do ask people dat leave matters of persons and pushes it to God...

the chinese; do they go to church than the Nigerians?
the Indians save more idols that the whole nigerian babalawo plus Igbesu etc
the Americans hardly go to church; & even those that do are mostly committing one type of immorality or the other ( gay; lesbians; adultery etc)
the Japanese dont have big churches like the ones in lagos
the Europeans & the Germans hardly go to church etc...

i go to church but i dont believe in pushing my responsibilies to God.

Nigeria`s problem is that we all push our responsibilies to God...

if u check the Nigerian history; all the past & present presidents either go to church or Mosque; I havent seen any tht came out publicly and said I am a member of cult or babalawo etc...

so it has been religious people that have been ruling and destroying the destiny of Nigeria eversince.

when OBJ came; some pastors said THIS IS GOD ELECT; what happened after.....?
when GEJ came; same was said; wenti we dey see na...?

those senators; House of rep.; councillors; governors etc check them they were among those that were saying making this same statement during the military regime...

now is their turn....

let me tell u the truth;

EVEN IF UR PASTOR OR BISHOP ENTERS THERE; SOME BILLIONS WILL STILL MISS 4RM THE NATIONS ACCOUNT...

i rest my case with this:-

the past leaders of Nigeria practices corruption
the current leaders are currently practising it
the future leaders are making plans of practising future corruption...

QED

CGKing: Nice, poster. correct revelabtion on ur part. very informative.

buzugee: well i am not well versed in world economics and politics and world leaders so i cant exactly tell you who the righteous leaders are

thehomer:

Then how can you say that absence righteousness is the reason for failure in Nigeria's case?

LoJ:
First of all, you are very wrong about me. I'm not Nigerian. I'm not trying here to improve Nigeria.

LoJ:
Secondly, you are very wrong about your knowledge of the Bible. The bible has been written as a code for human behaviour and solution to their problems. So yes, the solution to Nigeria's problem, Africa's problem, and the world's problem is in the Bible. Until we understand that, we are doomed in a corrupt society under the rulership of wicked and greedy men. Just as Dag Hammarskjold (former UN secretary general) said to Billy Graham:

" If there is hope, it can only be along the lines you are presenting. We've tried so hard at the UN, and we've failed so hopelessly"

Now let's discuss the core of the matter.

Fhemmmy:

Yes, no wonder Nigeria was doing well Prior to Festac 77, when we spend so much worshiping idols . . . .I weep for the nation

Fhemmmy:

Yes, no wonder Nigeria was doing well Prior to Festac 77, when we spend so much worshiping idols . . . .I weep for the nation

LoJ:
No. Where did I say that? I did not speak about going to North America. It is the puritans that FOUNDED the group within 6 states (around massachussets) that later expanded and became the United States of america. It's very different.

LoJ:
Everything about man's history is recorded in the bible. But the bible is hermetic and GOD reveals it to those HE wants. So yes, the story of the United States and of all the greats powers that ruled the earth is in the statue of Daniel. The United States is the iron part of the statue and GOD via Daniel acknowledged something specific about that iron part. Go and read your bible.

LoJ:
Again you are very wrong about USA history. The era of slavery in the Southern part of USA came in dozens of years afterwards. I'm not talking about that period of time. I mean the Jonathan Edwards epoch! When they came and built the moral and justice - based society, a kind of Theocratic city within 6 states!

In fact, Slavery proves my point. Because, the part of America that rejected slavery, is the part that was founded by the puritans, and that got the victory.

LoJ

Fhemmmy:

Yes, no wonder Nigeria was doing well Prior to Festac 77, when we spend so much worshiping idols . . . .I weep for the nation

goshen360: You and your theology. I wan go sleep, We go talk about am when I wake up, u hear. Theology buzugee,lol

Lovine: What is righteousness? And who do think is qualified to be called righteous?

Lovine: Gen.28:31 if you are among the 10 righteous people, a righteous leader would have been elected in Nigeria. What do you have to say?

buzugee: well i am not well versed in world economics and politics and world leaders so i cant exactly tell you who the righteous leaders are

LoJ: The founding fathers of the United States of America were righteous people. Those of you who know about history, the puritans who went there were fleeing from the immoral and wicked british system and wanted freedom to worship GOD in Justice. No wonder, their country grew to become the greatest in history. Even GOD in reference to the USA acknowledged their greatness.

Of course, it is no more the case. But if Dangotte dies and his children are irresponsible with his wealth. Is it going to finish in one day?

LoJ

cute-boy:



Why not work from answer to the question?
Simply point to the best countries in the world today, then we can begin to examine how righteous or puritanical thier leaders are.

Come on @buzugee, you can't be that ignorant. To begin with if you are asked which country's visa you would most love to have....
USA, UK, Canada, Sweden, Australia, ....... Give it a go!

buzugee: if nigeria was doing well prior to festac 77, it was only because the people back then were very upright. my parents belong in that era and in that era the people were dignified, had character, were very righteous and principled and had a certain air about them. however further down the line, corruption set in and the more corrupt we got as nigerians, the worse the country got. the more corrupt the citizens get, the more corrupt the leaders God will bless you with. this is all spiritual. this is how he repays you for your corruption. by putting someone over you who will bring you mourning and pain. crime and punishment
PROVERBS 29 VS 2[b] when the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn.[/b] thats punishment. cause and effect

Fhemmmy:

All we saying is that if people can turn back to God, Nigeria will be healed . . . But till then, we are yet to even see anything yet.
God is not a God that waste His resources.

numo86: Gods kingdom will soon crush all these human governments who have all been destroyin this earth aÑd its inhabitants 1 way or the other....
This includes d nigerian government,the us government,the chinese government,isreali government too and all govÉrnments formed by man.....
For all those who keep praying for human governments,hoping for 1 righteous ruler to come rule,let Gods kingdom not catch up with u...
The minute we expect humans to rule us well then we are on a long thing....
Even the nation of isreal God once focused his attention on,choosing kings and anointing them has messed up so much that God abandoned them to there madness...
Jesus as the last chosen and anointed king of Gods kingdom will do away with human rule and I am so much anticipating it....daniel 2:44
All other human rulers are just there,staying for a while,running shows for satan who is the present god of this world...
Our prayer every morning should be for Gods kingdom to come,to come demolish these human governmentsb,ecause waiting for a righteous ruler to show up to rule naija will be like waiting for when d sun will stop shinning...

buzugee: i see comprehension is not one of your strongest assets. usa, uk, canada, sweden, australia are supposed to be rich because we are in the era of the gentiles. these are gentile nations. they are heathen nations. let me show you how this thing started out. God created a shemetic black man and woman. these are his firstborn children. the lord deals in purity. this is why he is only dealing with the original black people he made from the dust. he gave us the convenant and laws and we are supposed to be the shining light in the world (amos 3 vs 2) (exodus 4 vs 22 ). however we fell into idolatry and all kinds of crazy things black people get up to. and he removed his protection from us (psalms 80 vs 12 ) (isaiah 5 vs 5-7). then he destroyed us in the flood and repopulated the earth but this time he created other mutant races from the 3 sons of noah. these mutant races (arabs and japnese, chinese, whites) will be his weapon used against his first born children if they transgress again. and he started out by giving black people everything on earth. the earth belonged to us, while he put the mutant races as savages in caves of mt seir and edom and caucasus mountains in georgia russia. but the condition to this balance is that with each trangression of the shemetic black people, the mutant races will get stronger and stronger and stronger and the black people will get weaker and weaker. and so it went till the white people got so strong, came out of the caves, took over israel (initial home of black people ), enslaved the blacks took all their land. all this started under alexander the great and worsened under antiochus epiphanes. so the mutant races were exalted due to the transgression of the black people and are now in their salvatiion and own the whole world, while the black people who started out with the whole world now own nothing. the gentiles are in heaven while the blacks are in hell (they are both conditions on earth ). so the answer to your question is-will i want to go to heaven (usa, australia, uk ) or hell ? (anywhere with black people ) ? personally with the kind of relationship i have developed with the lord i can be in heaven or hell and will be ok. scripture says if a man is doing right by God, he will be kind to you and will defeat your enemies for you (isaiah 30 vs 18 ) (psalm 81 vs 13)

so everything i wrote up there is biblical. i dont want to inundate the writings with biblical verses (because i have 100s and will link them up for you into how we ended up here ) but trust me it is all biblical. so now black people all over the world are in hell and own nothing despite starting out with everything because of our transgression. and the only 2 things that will get us out of this as a collective are

1-we all return to worshipping the lord the way we are supposed to and obeying his laws

2-wait till the reign of the gentile is over but in the meantime continue to endure sorrow, unfair trade, hunger, bad leadership, racism, etc etc etc etc. When the era of the gentile is over, all the fortunes will be reversed again and black people will be put on top again but in righteousness with christ. and the gentiles who had a chance to rule in righteousness but instead subjected the israelites to lynchings, slavery, unfair trade, colonialism, racism, painting jesus face as white and having the whole world bow down to a white jesus hence idolatry, painting the real jews as white hence deciet etc etc will get their comeuppance and will be put in slavery and in subjection to the black people. THIS IS ALL BIBLICAL.

LAMENTATIONS 1 VS 14 My rebellious acts are a heavy burden for me. They were tied together by God's own hands. They were tied around my neck. He has weakened me [with them]. The Lord has handed me over to people I cannot oppose.

ROMANS 11 VS 11-12 Again I ask: Did they stumble so as to fall beyond recovery? Not at all! Rather, because of their transgression, salvation has come to the Gentiles to make Israel envious But if their transgression means riches for the world, and their loss means riches for the Gentiles, how much greater riches will their full inclusion bring! (so we are currently excluded from the riches of the world. the gentiles have it all. )

LAMENTATION 1 VS 10 The enemy has plundered her completely, taking every precious thing she owns. She has seen foreigners violate her sacred Temple, the place the LORD had forbidden them to enter.

JEREMIAH 2 VS 14[b] Is Israel a servant, a slave by birth? Why then has he become plunder?[/b]( we are still a plunder to this day in africa. all our resources and colonialism )

LAMENTATION 5 VS 8 Slaves rule over us, and there is none to free us from their hands. (The blacks complaining when white greeks and romans took over. notice how the whites are called the slaves )

ROMANS 10 VS 19 "I will rouse your jealousy through people who are not even a nation. I will provoke your anger through the foolish Gentiles."

DANIEL 4 VS 17[b] the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will, and setteth up over it the basest of men.[/b] (Notice how the lord has set up the basest (lowest) of men to rule the earth because of israels fall )

1 MACCABEES 3 VS 48 And laid open the book of the law, wherein the heathen had sought to paint the likeness of their images. ( whitewashed black history and painted their faces in all our books. thats why you are worshipping a white jesus and think jews are white. this is a biblical prophesy being fulfilled )