Pastor Kun: @Image123

However whilst you are still in the kweshion answering mood, could you briefly answer the additional kweshions:

1. Is it morally right for modern day preachers to twist God's word to include monetary tithes when biblical tithes demanded by God (from the Jews) was strictly agricultural produce.

2. We all know that mandatory tithing was based on obsolete mosaic laws which are not applicable to christians living under grace, is it right for preachers to be preaching this aspect of the law even though the law is now no longer valid?

I would refrain from asking further kweshions for now, I trust that brother Goshen wld give a detailed rebuttal of your hallucinations when he wakes up.

Pastor Kun:

Apostle Image123 I am still waiting for you to address the two kweshions above.

Pastor Kun:

Bros why don't you attempt to answer the kweshions yourself instead of encouraging Image to continue ridicling himself and twisting the very word of God he claims to serve.

Goshen360: ^
You might as well wish to answer the questions i intend to ask Apostle Image123 sir. Can I ask you some direct questions sir?

nuclearboy: @Image123:

Seems what you are projecting is an emotional argument - "they are doing the work of God so let's feel sorry for them and help them by giving" when you say "churches still have to be run" and "there's nothing wrong with giving stipulated giving"

Point is, are we supposed to run our lives on the basis of emotions! We see professional beggars (who have no injury but refuse to work even when offered jobs to do) and give them because it makes us feel good - "God saw me give that beggar and will reward me"! Na so? Is that right?

Goshen deliberately made his points using the Bible and so did Jem1 - WITH concise applicable examples we all can relate to just as Jesus Himself used! Yet here is your rebuttal summarized - "Churches still have to be run (so bring money in anyhow)".

Would you then be offended if someone says it seems as if you know this truth but prefer denial?

Goshen360: Okay, G'morning everyone,

In other not to go into endless argument which i won't like this thread to end with, I have seen and perceive where Apostle (Ordained by nuclearboy and confirmed by Goshen360, ) Image123 is going with his support for tithe teaching.

I will ask Apostle Image123 SOME FEW DIRECT questions AND I WANT HIM TO GIVE ALL OF US HERE AND THE WHOLE WORLD DIRECT ANSWERS. These questions will teach and as well clear all these talk and long arguments and the whole truth/lies exposed.

@ Image123, (Sorry, Apostle Image123, we have Pastor Kunle so we should have Apostle Image123 right? Glory to God)

I HAVE FEW DIRECT QUESTIONS THAT WILL BE ASKED, NOT FROM THE MAIN QUESTIONS OF THIS THREAD BUT FROM WHAT YOU HAVE SAID BY YOURSELF IN RESPONDING TO THE QUESTIONS OF THIS THREAD. ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS AND EVERYTHING WILL BE PLAIN AS ABC.

APOSTLE SIR, ARE YOU READY?

Goshen360: ^
You might as well wish to answer the questions i intend to ask Apostle Image123 sir. Can I ask you some direct questions sir?

Goshen360: ^
Yes, my QUESTIONS ARE ALL BIBLE BASED AND DOCTRINES OF CHRIST sir. Can you answer them sir? Am going to ask one after the other though. They are direct question and we need direct answers. Are you interested sir?

OLAADEGBU:
My answering your kweshuns depend on where you stand on the deity of Christ, verbal inerrancy of the Scriptures and biblical creation.

Goshen360:

Okay sir, ask me questions about the deity of Christ and I will answer you sir. However, I believe in the pre-existence of Christ in the beginning before the beginning of Genesis 1. I also believe in the eternity of God and Christ, without beginning and without ending.

Goshen360:
So, will you answer my questions now? or you want to keep dribbling me/us,lol

Goshen360: @ Olaadegbu,

I believe Jesus is God and distinct from the God, the Father.

Leave Kunle out of this. Face me,lol. Kunle is NOT my hero as you said. Okay.

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. John 1:1-3 nkjv

He (Christ, the word-God) is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him. And He is before all things, and in Him all things consist. Col.1:15-17 nkjv

Can you see what I believe in these verses.

Goshen360: ^
Okay, we shall not leave the weightier matter out at the expense of this subject. I have answered your questions and prove what I believed. Can we go on to my questions now? Guess you are trying to avoid what is ahead.lol

nuclearboy: @Image123:

Thanks for your answer! I would have liked to revert with a rebuttal but I think Goshen360 has this very well covered and I will leave it to him so there is less space for manipulations and long-winded posturing.

What would be nice is if you (and like minds) would just answer his questions directly without the delay, dribbling and manipulative tactics!

All questions asked of Christ were answered WITHOUT ambiguity! it would be nice if we would actually follow THAT example!

OLAADEGBU:

I can see that you still managed to do a disappearing act on the verbal inerrancy of the Scriptures.

How can I leave the OP out of this since this thread is his idea? Shall we leave the weighty matters out at the expense of his pet subject?

nuclearboy: Image,

Christ NEVER hid from His Own! Or perharps you could show me one example where He dodged like you have been doing? Can't you simply answer the questions? Simple direct honest answers which do not contain non-issue or posturing?

Them "you know who" already perfected this insistence in prevarication until the real "issues" get lost in a hail of "stories"! You and me know they are pretenders and only worship their tummies! You cannot wish to be like those, can you? And you NEVER get tongue-tied like this except concerning tithes!

Be honorable and face Goshen head on and honestly

OLAADEGBU:
You only attempted to answer the first kweshun, leaving out #2 and #3.


I wish I had the skills of Maradona but I don't. Your hero pastorkuns qualifies as the Maradona here because he doesn't believe that Jesus Christ is God the Creator of heaven and earth, neither does he believe in the inerrancy of Scripture, do you?