Welcome, Guest: Register On Nairaland / LOGIN! / Trending / Recent / New
Stats: 3,150,295 members, 7,808,003 topics. Date: Thursday, 25 April 2024 at 02:16 AM

Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 - European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) (6534) - Nairaland

Nairaland Forum / Entertainment / Sports / European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 (10420746 Views)

Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Pride Of London / Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe / Manchester United Fan thread: Forever Reds (2) (3) (4)

(1) (2) (3) ... (6531) (6532) (6533) (6534) (6535) (6536) (6537) ... (19101) (Reply) (Go Down)

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by randomperson: 11:42am On Jan 12, 2019
Ibime:


In other words, Iniesta was a carryalong while Lampard was a carrier.

Don't compare drummer boy who dance behind Masquerade to the Masquerade please.

Even as a left winger tasked with making the difference, he was still a drummer boy that couldn't provide the winning impetus.


No... iniesta played the role his team needed him to play...

Teams were seating back to defend against barca and barca needed a person who could hold the ball under pressure against two or more opposing midfielders and creating more space for d attackers...

That's what iniesta did for barca and Spain and it got him a legacy substantially superior to that of Lampard
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 11:46am On Jan 12, 2019
randomperson:


No... iniesta played the role his team needed him to play...

Teams were seating back to defend against barca and barca needed a person who could hold the ball under pressure against two or more opposing midfielders and creating more space for d attackers...

That's what iniesta did for barca and Spain and it got him a legacy substantially superior to that of Lampard

That must be the same way teams are sitting back against Chelsea today, and Kovacic will be holding the ball like Iniesta dribbling upandan without making incisive puncture in the opposition defence. Iniesta is no different from Kovacic. He should have statue of Messi, Villa and Eto in his house and pray to them everyday. Kovacic unfortunately can only do the exact same thing Iniesta does and hope on Willian to provide the difference.

5 Likes

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Debroslink: 11:47am On Jan 12, 2019
Unlimited22:

How many UCL's has Iniesta won since Xavi left?

I saw Iniesta win league title after Xavi left. Show me the league trophy Xavi won 5 years before Iniesta rescued him. Show me the national trophy he won 6 years before Iniesta became a starter.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Debroslink: 11:51am On Jan 12, 2019
obainojazz:
Truth is, Iniesta perfected the act of being carried along, he's the best in the business. Xavi is the fire that cooks the soup, Iniesta will jump in and start forming steam coming out of the pot.

That's not true.

Xavi had been cooking soup for about 5 years before Iniesta with absolutely nothing to show. Iniesta came up to add seasoning.

Xavi should be grateful that Iniesta aided him.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by randomperson: 11:51am On Jan 12, 2019
Ibime:


Modric was not just Lampards junior, he was everyones junior including Gerrard, Fabregas and in his own team Van Der Vaart chased him away from AM position after he played AM for a year and couldn't produce any attacking returns.

The difference between Liverpool and Spurs could be boiled down to the difference between Gerrard and Modric. They often finish in not too dissimilar league positions, but Gerrard's incisiveness could take them deep into competitions while Modric was waiting for Carryalong.

Gareth Bale became World most expensive player playing for the same team because he was not waiting for any carryalong. Van Der Vaart pushed Modric out of AM position and immediately started hitting double figures for goals and assists where Modric was struggling to put even 5 together.

Modric simply followed the Iniesta route and tapped into carryalong blessings that Iniesta has been profiting from his whole career. Ronaldo has now taken those blessings to Italy, Modric cannot even carry himself anymore.

If Modric see Lampard, Gerrard, Fabregas or even Van Der Vaart today, he will still dobale for them cos shoe get size. I am happy he is greater than Iniesta today though. Much respect to him for out-Iniesta-ing Iniesta.

Hindsight has shown us that Modric's talent were more suited to a central midfield position which is why he has succeeded there...

How will Modric dobale for people he has outshined? He has won more champions league titles than all d midfielders you mentioned combined while winning d award for best midfielder virtually every single time...

Those midfielders would give their left testicles to have Modric's life right now.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by randomperson: 11:55am On Jan 12, 2019
Ibime:


That must be the same way teams are sitting back against Chelsea today, and Kovacic will be holding the ball like Iniesta dribbling upandan without making incisive puncture in the opposition defence. Iniesta is no different from Kovacic. He should have statue of Messi, Villa and Eto in his house and pray to them everyday. Kovacic unfortunately can only do the exact same thing Iniesta does and hope on Willian to provide the difference.

Actually, if you had an iniesta now and attacker that was fertile unlike hazard, your problems would be gone...

And there lies your problem, barca had Messi and iniesta, you want to play d same style with kovacic and hazard

1 Like

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Debroslink: 11:57am On Jan 12, 2019
LordEmperoris1:
It is finished

I quit naira land.


without iniesta there won't be any Xavi

words from a wise barkabots

Instead of you to kiss the truth, you are spewing trash. Iniesta made Xavi, not the other way round. Iniesta won the league without Xavi. Iniesta won UCL without Messi and Xavi alongside him.

What major trophy did Xavi win without Iniesta for like 5 years?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by madrid5: 11:59am On Jan 12, 2019
See idiotic barca fans devaluating xavi just to praise iniesta grin,iniesta is Spanish kovacic

6 Likes 1 Share

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Segedinho(m): 12:00pm On Jan 12, 2019
randomperson:


Actually, if you had an iniesta now and attacker that was fertile unlike hazard, your problems would be gone...

And there lies your problem, barca had Messi and iniesta, you want to play d same style with kovacic and hazard
with due respect bro. .wat is ur standis it all about judging a player with stats or just personal accolades
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Debroslink: 12:01pm On Jan 12, 2019
madrid5:
See idiotic barca fans devaluating xavi just to praise iniesta grin,iniesta is Spanish kovacic

Keep licking Ibime's ass.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 12:01pm On Jan 12, 2019
madrid5:
See idiotic barca fans devaluating xavi just to praise iniesta grin,iniesta is Spanish kovacic

He is Kovacic oooooo
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 12:03pm On Jan 12, 2019
randomperson:


Actually, if you had an iniesta now and attacker that was fertile unlike hazard, your problems would be gone...

And there lies your problem, barca had Messi and iniesta, you want to play d same style with kovacic and hazard

And if Iniesta did not have fertile forwards he would be Kovacic.

Lampard is Lampard, a killer in his own right even if he plays with Malouda and Joe Cole.

Therein lies the difference between a carryalong and a killer.

1 Like

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by randomperson: 12:04pm On Jan 12, 2019
Segedinho:
with due respect bro. .wat is ur standis it all about judging a player with stats or just personal accolades

Stats are important but they are not the ultimate in judging a player... You have to consider every metric...

And when you consider every metric... Iniesta is superior to Lampard
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by madrid5: 12:04pm On Jan 12, 2019
Debroslink:


Keep licking Ibime's ass.
bro I have watched kovacic for years,there is no difference.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 12:05pm On Jan 12, 2019
madrid5:
See idiotic barca fans devaluating xavi just to praise iniesta grin,iniesta is Spanish kovacic

Where's bykebyke abi na bykelabyke?

These Barca fans are pathetic.

In other news, Neymar has turned to a beggar. This guy is a shameless glory hunter. Now that he knows Mbappe has more years ahead to outshine him at PSG, he wants to go back to Barca, knowing that Messi has fewer years to shine. The mumu should come to epl, if he is tougher than Hazard. cheesy

cc raumdeuter, a40 and other 'Hazard is a beggar' crew members.

2 Likes

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by randomperson: 12:06pm On Jan 12, 2019
Ibime:


And if Iniesta did not have fertile forwards he would be Kovacic.

Lampard is Lampard, a killer in his own right even if he plays with Malouda and Joe Cole.

Therein lies the difference between a carryalong and a killer.

In 2012, Spain were starting matches with six midfielders and no striker, yet in that set up, iniesta won player of the tournament...

That's fvcking badass

1 Like

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by madrid5: 12:07pm On Jan 12, 2019
Ibime:


And if Iniesta did not have fertile forwards he would be Kovacic.

Lampard is Lampard, a killer in his own right even if he plays with Malouda and Joe Cole.

Therein lies the difference between a carryalong and a killer.
iniesta being kovacic is not a bad thing sha,kovacic is/was a good player for us,modric and co was just better that is why the guy warm bench,this could have been iniesta career if he wasn't from LA masia,his unproductivity for an attacking midfielder can only be tolerated in Barcelona.

1 Like

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Debroslink: 12:10pm On Jan 12, 2019
Ibime:


And if Iniesta did not have fertile forwards he would be Kovacic.

Lampard is Lampard, a killer in his own right even if he plays with Malouda and Joe Cole.

Therein lies the difference between a carryalong and a killer.

So-called killer that will be paddling stats in small league matches and finals when millions are watching other league matches.

But when the whole world focuses on the biggest match, when the ovation is loudest? The so-called carryalong will carry his team, while the "killer" gets killed.

5 European finals, 1 useless goal, zero assist.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by TalabiAudu: 12:12pm On Jan 12, 2019
Barkabots don camp here like zombie pack
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by randomperson: 12:12pm On Jan 12, 2019
airmark:


Where's bykebyke abi na bykelabyke?

These Barca fans are pathetic.

In other news, Neymar has turned to a beggar. This guy is a shameless glory hunter. Now that he knows Mbappe has more years ahead to outshine him at PSG, he wants to go back to Barca, knowing that Messi has fewer years to shine. The mumu should come to epl, if he is tougher than Hazard. cheesy


Is this one alright? Neymar won best player in that league despite going on a long term injury

Neymar needs to go to the best league in the world, not some league where they haven't won a UCL in 6 years
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Debroslink: 12:13pm On Jan 12, 2019
madrid5:
bro I have watched kovacic for years,there is no difference.

Madrid has won 4 UCL in 5 years. Tell us Kovacic's impact.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 12:13pm On Jan 12, 2019
randomperson:


In 2012, Spain were starting matches with six midfielders and no striker, yet in that set up, iniesta won player of the tournament...

That's fvcking badass

Raumdeuter's polling booth award. How many goals and assists did he have in the tournament?

1 Like

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by randomperson: 12:13pm On Jan 12, 2019
madrid5:
iniesta being kovacic is not a bad thing sha,kovacic is/was a good player for us,modric and co was just better that is why the guy warm bench,this could have been iniesta career if he wasn't from LA masia,his unproductivity for an attacking midfielder can only be tolerated in Barcelona.

This one doesn't know that Perez reapetedly tried to buy iniesta
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by randomperson: 12:16pm On Jan 12, 2019
airmark:


Raumdeuter's polling booth award. How many goals and assists did he have in the tournament?

Who cares if Raumdeuter calls it polling booth award??

The fact is that he won it...

What's Lampard most significant achievement for England? whether individual oo or carry along?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Segedinho(m): 12:16pm On Jan 12, 2019
randomperson:


Stats are important but they are not the ultimate in judging a player... You have to consider every metric...

And when you consider every metric... Iniesta is superior to Lampard
now I get ur point.So considering that,how do we compare who is better between Lampard vs iniesta cos but were instrumental to their respective teams.....stats wise Lampard was better. .what are ur metric in ur ultimate conclusion? . .have it in mind that Spain was better than England likewise barca vs Chelsea. ..so cups n teams superiority are 100% negligible in judging a single player or rather comparing the player as well
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 12:16pm On Jan 12, 2019
madrid5:
iniesta being kovacic is not a bad thing sha,kovacic is/was a good player for us,modric and co was just better that is why the guy warm bench,this could have been iniesta career if he wasn't from LA masia,his unproductivity for an attacking midfielder can only be tolerated in Barcelona.

Iniesta is a good player himself just like Kovacic/Dembele them, but nobody will mention them Kovacic/Dembele when we are talking of the absolute best, unlike Eunuch who got carried along into those conversations
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 12:19pm On Jan 12, 2019
randomperson:


Who cares if Raumdeuter calls it polling booth award??

The fact is that he won it...

What's Lampard most significant achievement for England? whether individual oo or carry along?

Lampard attacking contribution to Euro 2004 is greater than Iniesta polling booth in 2012, or any attacking return in any tournament Iniesta has ever played.

1 Like

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by madrid5: 12:19pm On Jan 12, 2019
Debroslink:


Madrid has won 4 UCL in 5 years. Tell us Kovacic's impact.
almost none just like iniesta

1 Like 1 Share

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by randomperson: 12:19pm On Jan 12, 2019
Segedinho:
now I get ur point.So considering that,how do we compare who is better between Lampard vs iniesta cos but were instrumental to their respective teams.....stats wise Lampard was better. .what are ur metric in ur ultimate conclusion? . .have it in mind that Spain was better than England likewise barca vs Chelsea. ..so cups n teams superiority are 100% negligible in judging a single player or rather comparing the player as well

Of course, let's put cups aside... Which of them has more INDIVIDUAL awards?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by madrid5: 12:20pm On Jan 12, 2019
Ibime:


Iniesta is a good player himself just like Kvacic/Dembele them, but nobody will mention them Kovacic/Dembele when we are talking of the absolute best, unlike Eunuch who got carried along into those conversations
lol,thats my piont
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 12:20pm On Jan 12, 2019
randomperson:


Is this one alright? Neymar won best player in that league despite going on a long term injury

Neymar needs to go to the best league in the world, not some league where they haven't won a UCL in 6 years

You must be out of your mind, to be saying that now. So Neymar didn't know that, when he was offered to sign for PSG? He wasn't with his brain when he was asked why he wanted to leave Barca.

So Ronaldo should be begging Madrid now, cos serie a, haven't won ucl in 6yrs. You barcabots are ridiculous.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Debroslink: 12:20pm On Jan 12, 2019
madrid5:
almost none just like iniesta

Don't ever forget this gif. We won UCL with this.

Same year someone said Iniesta went a whole year without assist.



(1) (2) (3) ... (6531) (6532) (6533) (6534) (6535) (6536) (6537) ... (19101) (Reply)

Viewing this topic: BlueMann, airmark(m) and 8 guest(s)

(Go Up)

Sections: politics (1) business autos (1) jobs (1) career education (1) romance computers phones travel sports fashion health
religion celebs tv-movies music-radio literature webmasters programming techmarket

Links: (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10)

Nairaland - Copyright © 2005 - 2024 Oluwaseun Osewa. All rights reserved. See How To Advertise. 47
Disclaimer: Every Nairaland member is solely responsible for anything that he/she posts or uploads on Nairaland.