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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by izzou(m): 10:24pm On Jun 20, 2020
donjazet:


You yourself have clearly not been following the argument.

I said earlier today that religion was one of the major problems of our society alongside tribalism and corruption.
Teejay supported the statement by saying we needed more irreligious freethinkers and philosophers in the society, only for senkafor to reintroduce the lazy and stealing argument again.

Nobody says that religion leads to stealing.
No. It leads to much worse. A hypocritical and mentally backwards society.

A society that loves to pretend and close it's eye to its problems while it's citizens continuously turn on themselves on the basis of religion amid other factors.

What exactly is our society's problems?

Abortion that isn't legalized?
Abi na sex education?

Is this really our problem now? Or you just want to argue

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 10:28pm On Jun 20, 2020
izzou:


This is what Jesus told his disciples

Kindly tell me what is wrong with this statement.

Nothing is wrong with this statement. As a matter of fact, it is one of the best statements in the bible.

But I ask you; what about the terrible parts and laws of the Bible?
What about the part that says rapists must marry their victims? or the parts that encourages slavery( a part used by Christians to justify slavery)?, the part that commands the killings of unbelievers.
The parts that promote bloodshed and violence?

What about those parts? You see that you are choosing to cherrypick the good part of the Bible you believe is good.

What about those that choose to enforce the very terrible aspects of this same bible?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 10:35pm On Jun 20, 2020
izzou:


What exactly is our society's problems?

Abortion that isn't legalized?
Abi na sex education?

Is this really our problem now? Or you just want to argue

I gave you instances of the kind of backwards mentality the common citizens of our society possess because of religion.

Our religious beliefs is the main reason we choose to pretend like these things aren't happening.

Because a majority of our population identify as Christians or Moslems, religions which outrightly forbids those two things, we can't solve these societal problems.

Religion forbids sex before marriage, but since man is an advanced animal that is biologically and genetically engineered to have sex without an impulse towards reproduction, we feel guilty when we do what our body was programmed to stand we can't even talk about it openly.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 10:41pm On Jun 20, 2020
CAPdan21:

You're being disingenuous by saying religion is a problem of society...religion has never been the problem of society rather humans will do or behave the way they want to regardless of any religion, it is both the bane and merit of being human...the rich/strong prey on the poor/weak not because of religion but because of nature...Many of the dictators this world have seen did not subscribe to any religion..Hitler,Stalin,Napoleon,Vlad the impaler e.t.c..Again stop trying to be superior by presenting your opinions like universal facts..you're not fooling anyone
Hitler was known to have good relationship with the catholic church..but that aside.what is the essence of a believing in god,when you won't obey his rules and regulations.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by CAPdan21(m): 10:43pm On Jun 20, 2020
The point in the laws in the bible was to make everyone responsible for his/her actions..Imagine bringing the aspect of asking rapists to marry who they raped without realizing the point was to make sure that for every action you take there must be consequences(According to science action=reaction)..most of those who rape others today do it because of lust, without regarding the effect on the other person...making a law to protect the victim is now what these so called FREE THINKERS is using as a stick to beat Christianity...Intelligence nor really b by book work

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by izzou(m): 10:46pm On Jun 20, 2020
donjazet:


Nothing is wrong with this statement. As a matter of fact, it is one of the best statements in the bible.

But I ask you; what about the terrible parts and laws of the Bible?
What about the part that says rapists must marry their victims? or the parts that encourages slavery( a part used by Christians to justify slavery)?, the part that commands the killings of unbelievers.
The parts that promote bloodshed and violence?


What about those parts? You see that you are choosing to cherrypick the good part of the Bible you believe is good.

What about those that choose to enforce the very terrible aspects of this same bible?

The bolded all happened in the Old testament. It was a recall of events that happened then. Reading it is more like a story. Events that happened between God and a people.

This same order of events led to the New testament...Jesus, his followers, his death and the rest

So can you now point to where we were encouraged again to kill, rape or be violent?
Show me where Jesus's disciples practiced all what you said. Or you are not cherry picking too?

Everybody will not be an atheist and everyone will not be religious...A fact you and the Atum follower just won't accept

So at any slightest opportunity, you bring in religion as the problem. Even madrid.5 said religion has done more good in ending very toxic beliefs in this world, but no.....you just have to paint it all black

I always try to avoid quoting you on matters outside football. You are the type that can't live and let live. You are the example of an extremist. If you were a Muslim, you probably would be carrying bombs now, or if you were a Christian, you may be condemning every single soul you meet daily

I thank God for where you are currently.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by izzou(m): 10:53pm On Jun 20, 2020
donjazet:


I gave you instances of the kind of backwards mentality the common citizens of our society possess because of religion.

Our religious beliefs is the main reason we choose to pretend like these things aren't happening.

Because a majority of our population identify as Christians or Moslems, religions which outrightly forbids those two things, we can't solve these societal problems.

Religion forbids sex before marriage, but since man is an advanced animal that is biologically and genetically engineered to have sex without an impulse towards reproduction, we feel guilty when we do what our body was programmed to stand we can't even talk about it openly.

Religion advised it's followers not to have sex before marriage. How's that your business, Donjazet? Is this affecting you? Or if you have sex tonight, will anyone stone you to death, kill you?

Some countries have legalized same sex marriage, yet religion is still there . Did it take anything away from anybody?

I asked you Nigeria's problems. You did not say corruption, killings, rape, poverty, unemployment oh . Na sex , abortion and sex education you talk.

So at least, I can assume that the others are not caused by religion

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by CAPdan21(m): 10:55pm On Jun 20, 2020
simonjassy:
Hitler was known to have good relationship with the catholic church..but that aside.what is the essence of a believing in god,when you won't obey his rules and regulations.
Hitler was no christian..He was a racist and fascist..u cannot claim to be a friend of the church when you were responsible for genocide of over 6 million jews...To your question, I'll ask these
What is the point of going to school if you're not prepared to read
Humans has always been slaves to themselves..despite religion, tribe, race...we always find a way of doing what we want...Which is where faith/belief comes in..

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Emaprince: 11:00pm On Jun 20, 2020
Na wa o

I thought PL has begun? Why is there so much arguments on religion?

They just keep running around in circles

E be like say the latest swag/trend now is to be forming "I don't believe in God". That way you will appear superior and females will find you sexy.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hardeycute(m): 11:09pm On Jun 20, 2020
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Griffon(m): 11:32pm On Jun 20, 2020
Abeg who be this Said Benrahma every top club in the country are monitoring?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Obere4u: 11:51pm On Jun 20, 2020
hardeycute:
https://www.lindaikejisblog.com/2020/6/you-cant-believe-in-jesus-and-be-afraid-of-touching-coronavirus-patients-pastor-chris-oyakhilome-video.html
Let him walk the talk....
Lead by example.... He's in Lagos, he can go to any of the Isolation centers and dine with the carriers of the virus.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Roland17(m): 12:07am On Jun 21, 2020
Obere4u:

Let him walk the talk....
Lead by example.... He's in Lagos, he can go to any of the Isolation centers and dine with the carriers of the virus.

I am more concerned about the gullible followers who will become even more indifferent to following infection control protocols.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by macjireh: 12:10am On Jun 21, 2020
donjazet:


Nothing is wrong with this statement. As a matter of fact, it is one of the best statements in the bible.

But I ask you; what about the terrible parts and laws of the Bible?
What about the part that says rapists must marry their victims? or the parts that encourages slavery( a part used by Christians to justify slavery)?, the part that commands the killings of unbelievers.
The parts that promote bloodshed and violence?

What about those parts? You see that you are choosing to cherrypick the good part of the Bible you believe is good.

What about those that choose to enforce the very terrible aspects of this same bible?

after God created man,,d devil too created his own man which d devil himself multiplied upon d earth to gain dominion over d man God created...Remember God promised eve DAT her seed will crush d seed of d serpent (devil)...so in a bid to make DAT not to happen,,,d devil quickly created his seed in d form of Cain to kill Abel meaning DAT God's seed can never come to hunt him...fortunately Seth was born by Adam wch later traces to Noah... Noah was d only perfect(pure) man(Gen6:9) in his time....every other man on earth in his time where children born by Cain's descendants or by fallen angels(sons of God) Gen6:1-12,, they were d giants in those days...those children where d first to display talents in music, art and science.. d devil developed his children so fast den to build cities,play music and do arts(Gen 4:17-22) just so he could have dominion over d creation of God...so Noah was d only pure human in his time so God had to use him to create an Ark so as to wipe off all d men DAT d devil had created..God did D's so he could restart d creation of man...but later on d devil still created his own men like goliath...giants were not normal,, they were children of fallen angels DAT slept with daughters of men...God considers d Israelites as d purest breed of humans on earth today...God always wanted to preserve a pure human breed for Himself so He always urged d Israelites to completely destroy nations who were a breed of d devil... it has always been a fight for dominance,, d devil is so scared so he keeps creating his own men to fight against d plan of God...so Y wont God always order Israel to exterminate d devil's seed whenever they are found.....God was never in a hurry to redeem man,,,so he waited for thousands of years for Jesus to be born who was d most perfect breed of human to walk ds earth to come to die and shed His blood on earth,,dat by His blood,,man can be saved back to God...So ds has been d battle Heaven and hell have been engaged in dats Y u see all d many tinz happening on earth now including covid....Till date d devil thinks He can defeat God


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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 12:13am On Jun 21, 2020
CAPdan21:

Hitler was no christian..He was a racist and fascist..u cannot claim to be a friend of the church when you were responsible for genocide of over 6 million jews...To your question, I'll ask these
What is the point of going to school if you're not prepared to read
Humans has always been slaves to themselves..despite religion, tribe, race...we always find a way of doing what we want...Which is where faith/belief comes in..

Stop exposing your ignorance online. Don't proffer opinions on issues which you don't have a firm grasp on.

Go and study about anti-semitism and see how the Catholics which was the central tenet of Christians for millennia persecuted, discriminated, segregated and tortured the jews for thousands of years.

Many Christians till today still hate the jews because of their belief in the fact that the jews killed Jesus Christ.

Go and read up on the reason pope Gregory later added the verse in the gospel that says "let his sins be on our head and upon That of our children" in Jesus's persecution story. This particular verse was added to the Bible much later to justify the church's action against the jews.

You are talking rubbish when you say Hitler wasnt a friend of the church. As a matter of fact, during ww2, some jews ran into churches to seek shelter and persecution from the Nazi's only for the priests to hand these people over to the nazis to be sent to the concentration camps.

The Catholic Church is the root of anti-semitism.
Like I said earlier, have a firm grasp on an issue before proffering your opinions in order to avoid misinformation.
Go and brush up on your history.

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 1:05am On Jun 21, 2020
Una don start again angry
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 1:11am On Jun 21, 2020
izzou:


Religion advised it's followers not to have sex before marriage. How's that your business, Donjazet? Is this affecting you? Or if you have sex tonight, will anyone stone you to death, kill you?

Some countries have legalized same sex marriage, yet religion is still there . Did it take anything away from anybody?

I asked you Nigeria's problems. You did not say corruption, killings, rape, poverty, unemployment oh . Na sex , abortion and sex education you talk.

So at least, I can assume that the others are not caused by religion

The gargantuan level of ignorance or should I call it deceit in this post is both flabbergasting and befuddling. shocked

How would you with a straight face ask me if anybody cares if someone is gay or not in this country or if anybody will kill you for it? shocked

I have told you that religion has created a dysfunctional society where everyone is judgemental, pretentious, suspicious and hypocritical of each other.

I mean, Nigeria is a country that criminalizes gay people that is if you are not beaten to death first.
This is despite the fact that we know that there are a lot of gay people in our society who cannot dare to come out. Google recently revealed that Nigeria has the highest gay porn search in the world, tell me, is it ghosts that are searching gay porn on the internet? cheesy
You can even use your hand to see this on Google trend. Just click on this google trend list below

https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?geo=NG&q=Gay%20porn

I will narrate my own personal experience on this issue to further buttress my point on how religion makes us intolerable and hypocritical.

I believe i have previously detailed on this thread, how i was previously a religious fanatic because of my strict religious upbringing.
Secondary school was the first time i had heard about this gay issue. Around my jss3 was the first time I heard that 2 boys were caught having sex with themselves in the store, because of my popular standing in my set and the fact say I grab as I been dey gym, my friend who had caught them believed my participation in "blending" the guys would be necessary. I was secretly taken to the spot where the "blending" was to take place.

At first, when going, I actually thought it would be a fun affair because i hadn't thoughtfully processed much about the issue yet. when I first got to the site, there were about 5 of us with the 2 victims.

These guys looked very scared and was pleading with us that it was the "devil that took over them". Now it turned out that one of them had already been caught before in this same act with a different person before and one of the guys with us there had already beaten this victim too, so when he pointed this out, one guy slapped him and from there the beating started, we flogged them with belt, with cane and with wood. By the time we were done, these boys had sustained some visible injuries.


Now to my own part in this, seeing that this was my first time partaking in such brutality (although minimally), I questioned myself assiduously as to whether what I just did was right. Something significant happened after we beat these boys, they asked us if we were going to tell anybody and my friend assured them that we wouldn't tell on them and they THANKED us.
This was the part that left a strong impression on me because this kinda made me feel that even the victims believed that by beating them mercilessly, in so far as we didn't tell on them was the right thing to do and that they accepted the punishment.

So I later called one of the guys aside to hear personally from him and understand why he will engage in such acts. This was the guy who had been caught for the second time and he divulged to me that he had a neighbor who was his friend at home and that his friend introduced him to the act. That he had known his friend for a long time since they were kids and one day his friend kissed him and started handling his privates. I asked him, didn't he know he was sinning against God? He told me that he felt like he couldn't help it, that he would actually feel very guilty after this and go to confession(a catholic ritual of penance) but the truth was that he enjoyed the company of the guy whenever he was close to him.

Now mind you, this was in jss3, I was about 13 or 14 years old and at that point, I myself was still a naive virgin, because of my strict religious upbringing cheesy.
So all this was quite overwhelming for me and the more he kept narrating his story at my urging, the more I got offended about it. First of all, I didn't even understand the scenario he was describing or what kind of "enjoyment" he was describing but I just believed it was a sin and my conviction on this grew upon this premise.

After this I cautioned him and recommended he started a 9 days novena(a catholic form of prayer) to "cleanse his soul" and "purify his body, the temple of the Holy Spirit".

About six months later, during our 2nd term in ss1, this same boy would be caught again and once again would be blended. At this point, it was now so normal for me and my friends to be beating the gays caught, once anybody was caught, my friends and I would be the first called upon to beat them. I became sort of a militant anti-gay enforcer. I believed that I was doing the right thing for God. That we were literally beating away the gay. After beating them, I would carry them to the chapel and pray for them and make sure they begin their novena.

I told myself that I was doing the right thing. They were some repeat offenders that we would beat till they fainted and even when they went to the clinic, they couldn't report because they knew they faced expulsion and worst still, they genuinely believed we were helping them by not reporting them and just beating them.

Now, looking back, the surprising thing about this is that, at this point almost everyone in our set knew the prominent gay's, people joked about these things openly, even those who we beat earlier knew what they were. The only rule simply seemed to be; don't be caught in the act.

But it was an open secret that there were a lot of gays in the school. I would later become the SP of my school and call for some reforms like expanding and demacating the bathrooms, increased student security watch and patrol and a holistic approach to spiritual reformation for those caught.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 1:14am On Jun 21, 2020
I assure you, these are not happy memories I am recalling. Then, not once did it occur to me to try my best to rationalize the gays and their acts. My total conviction was that this was a sin against God.

It would be much later after secondary school, after I had gained a certain exposure to the world at large and developed a curious mind that I would begin to try to understand this unique human biological and psychological phenomenon.

Before, I used to think it was only America that allowed gay freedom, I was quick to jump upon the band wagon in labelling them the country of zero moral standards and a country that has "sold it's soul to the devil" and all other negative euphemisms attached.

But when I learnt that they were more than 50 countries that embraced these individuals, it really did a number on me, that was when I started to seriously look into the causes of homosexuality and it's impact on the society.

As an avid researcher, I studied this issue very well and made some discoveries.

First of all, homosexuality is almost as old as man, almost every single religion that has written texts have made mention of this group. A lot of historical cultures also record homosexuality contents, meaning that this is not something that is just learned. Some ancient cultures viewed it favourably, while many viewed it negatively.

However, these group have persisted.
Some biologists and genealogists have published reports that postulates that there is an existence of a gay gene. That people do not choose their sexual orientation.

That sometimes it might be recessive or dormant and sometimes it is triggered by external factors.
Some neurologists assert that homosexuality is a function of the brain. That gay people have a slightly different anatomical structure than their straight counterparts.

I don't know for a fact whether these claims are true or false, but what I now know for a fact is that gay people are as normal as can be. It is not shown in the face.
There are millions of men around the world who meet their fellow men and develop an emotional connection with them and both of them live just the same lives as their straight counterparts.
But the most important thing about this is that, it shouldn't be anybody's business what two people choose to do in their bedroom so far as there is consent.

I have learnt this lesson now. People condemn gay's purely on religious grounds and that is just pure bullshit.

No government should have to legislate on the personal private life of people. If you are jailing gays, who exactly will it help? I can't understand the rational behind jailing gay's.
When i became aware of all these and broadened my horizons on this, I felt soo terrible for my past actions, I thought about the physical and psychological damage I had inflicted upon a lot of people from my past. I started reaching out to some via social media and apologising profusely, seeking their forgiveness. I can't start narrating that experience here but it was very interesting and complicated.

Some were now married, some were really happy to find someone they could confide in. The boy who I narrated about our encounter is now in Canada and has become a gay activist. I was surprised to learn he had done an interview with a major media outlet on the plight of LGBTQ in Africa.

When raumdeuter recently accused me of being gay, it was so sudden and unexpected, I guess it triggered a sort of great guilt and fear in me because of my ill treatment towards others on this. Even though, I had longed since accepted these people, I found myself on the defensive purely on the basis of fear and guilt. cheesy
The guilt of my past actions towards gay people and The fear that total strangers online would hate me for "being" gay.

When I made the statement; "I'm in my house, come and beat me". People didn't really understand that comment but that was me being literal.


Anyways, izzuo, I have gone through this great length, literally, to point out that we are in an unforgiving society, one which is shaped by our divisive religious beliefs.
I even remember that you were one of those who began to laugh at me when raumdeuter called me gay. That is your judgemental mind at work.

Moreso, the fact that Dayo would think that the only way he could insult me was by calling me gay attests to the mentality spoken of here. So it's a very fallacious statement to make that nobody cares if you are gay here when people are burnt to death when found out in our country.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Roland17(m): 1:28am On Jun 21, 2020
The only solution is for Chelsea to lose tomorrow. grin

BlueMann:
Una don start again angry

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hopefulLandlord: 2:03am On Jun 21, 2020
seankafor:
guy one thing is to talk another thing is to put it into practice..

All these yearns without end result is just bullshits..

I used to think am smart when I used argue endlessly about these religious stuffs.

These things are utter bullshits on my own..

Religion is not the cause or our backwardness.. it's our corrupt and lazy mentality.. nothing to do with religion bro..

Y'all should focus more on how to better the lives around you and leave out things you can't control to control itself.
religion plays a huge part in maintaining such backwardness though

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 3:11am On Jun 21, 2020
This is a lengthy post. Those that don't like such needn't read it.

I'm of the opinion that morality, kindness, love, empathy are inherent traits in every human. In other words, negative traits such as hate, violence, dishonesty, corruption are learned.

The innocent approach of kids to life is a prime example of this notion. Regardless of whatever a person feels, children are born without a religion. So, they're taught parochial things like religion, tribalism, selfishness by their parents, other family members, some parts of society as they grow up. That's reality.

Morality is natural, and immorality is learned.

When life issues are looked at philosophically and critically, one sees that in every good thing, there are some bad aspects, and the converse is also true. Good and bad are relatives and not absolutes. What's good for humans could be evil for animals; what's evil for humans could be good for animals; the same analogy applies to different cultures, other species and inhabitants of this planet.

Nothing in this world can exist without depending on others for one thing or the other. So, everything in our world (and the universe) exists on the principle of give and take. Thus, good and bad are relatives.

There are good and beneficial aspects of religions generally, especially from the perspective of the founders. I know a religion like ATR, Buddhism have some beneficial aspects, just like Islam and Christianity as well.

However, the evils of religions, especially those with the history of violence like Islam and Christianity, far outweigh the good.

Overall, religions are evil for this planet and for a people.

Religious people emulate the characters of their god and prophets (religious heroes). When a religious man reads verses in a "holy" book about how his god destroyed thousands of lives for a sin they committed, the god is indirectly telling that man that use of violence is good to deal with those that wronged him.

Why won't some fathers kill their own child for having the gut to leave his religion?

When a religious man reads how his god places a curse on humans for not believing in him (why would an all-knowing god even gets angry or curses a human for any reason), that god is indirectly telling that man he can use hate speech on those with dissenting views.

Why won't Muslim and Christian nlers use hate speech against atheists and irreligious people? If one says these things offline, they'll lynch such a person (especially the Muslims).

Then one wonders why the history of Abrahamic religions is tainted with so many wars, bloodshed, violence. How did Yahweh treat his enemies in the Bible? Through the violence, killings, and eternal damnation in hell-fire.

How did Allah treat his enemies in Qur'an? Same way. The worshippers of these gods also follow these examples since a Muslim or a Christian feels his god cannot be questioned.

How dark can the soul of an entity get to promise eternal damnation in hell for a human? I don't know anyone here that can place a human like him in hellfire for eternity for whatever offence committed against him.

And if such a person exists, people call such humans "demons" and all sorts of evil names. It's bewildering when humans praise and worship Yahweh or Allah when they're enemies of humanity.

Emulating these devilish entities, Muslims and Christians threaten irreligious people with all sorts of evil things, such as death, blindness, sickness, etc. for saying the truth about their religion.

If I call an entity, who punishes errors and mistakes of humans with eternal fire, evil; that's being truthful since there are various proofs of his deeds in your holy book.

Several millions of lives have been lost in the name of one god or the other. How can a war be holy?!

A god is all-powerful and you must fight wars for him? Such a god can easily change the mind of his enemies (there are prayers for such in Islam but they don't work just like other types of prayers). If he's really all-powerful as he claims, he can easily change their mind, make everyone believe in him, and prevent tragic acts of bloodshed.

But no! He's not all-powerful as he claims.

Killings in the name of a god are among the worst disasters on this planet.

Religions, especially Abrahamic ones, teach adherents to put all their faith and hope in a god by praying daily. For a country to develop, such a mindset is a dangerous one as it breeds mental laziness and corruption.

Better to put one's faith in one's abilities (brain) than any absentee god.

The evils of religions are one too many. Need to stop.

Should one even talk about the noise pollution caused by religious houses littered everywhere in the country? So much religious houses, yet so little humanity and so much hypocrisy!

Should one talk about the thousands of people in history scammed by pastors?

Any system that enjoys mass trust is prone to corruption. When you can't question your god or holy book, you're just being scammed.

Those of us that had the courage and will to question these gods and their "holy" books left those religions (mental slavery).

Terrorism is one of the children that hate speech and violence in Quran and the Bible breed, and the others are corruption and tribalism/racism.

How can a so-called "holy" book contain so many errors and contradictions? Corruption.

How can a so-called "holy" book destroy the histories of natives of other places and demonise their deities and ancestors to replace them with foreign deities and the ancestors of foreign people? Racism.

Each culture has its good and bad sides and no culture can/should claim superiority over others.

Generally, religions are evil for this planet since their bad sides outweigh the good ones.

As people get more enlightened, the same reasons that made some left religions will make others do so as well.

As science and technology advances, it spells doom for religions. Sometime in the future, Abrahamic religions will suffer the same fate experienced by ATRs when many Africans left those religions in droves.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 3:34am On Jun 21, 2020
Very well said. Gensteejay. Very excellent points made there.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by seankafor(m): 4:42am On Jun 21, 2020
Y'all can take your bullshit opinions and shove it over your arses angry

Or better still, save it for your family meetings on December undecided
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by MichaelBukamzy(m): 5:22am On Jun 21, 2020
seankafor:
Y'all can take your bullshit opinions and shove it over your arses angry

Or better still, save it for your family meetings on December undecided
simple and short. Or take it to religon section. All these lenghty post filled with rubish and shalaye are not needed here. Someone is condeming preachers but time after time you keep forcing your beliefs and religious views on us(calling us names when we refuse to consume your shalaye)Mods please do your job

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by MichaelBukamzy(m): 5:41am On Jun 21, 2020
Aahn aahn!!! Today is match day and we have'nt seen any update or team news.go to man utd,barca and real madrid threads and see how they run things there. Even the beneficial things wey we dey learn from our senior men wey dey diaspora for free we no dey see read again because of these otelentu apostles wey dey form woke pas everybody for here.how will all these rubbish wey una dey talk bring sunday rice near my table or add 10kobo to my aza Here na sports section if una no go discuss sports or let senior men to dey teach us wetin go help us in life then make una kari this una yeye history book,holy book,art/literature book,revelation,supremacy battle go meet una god otelentu for religeon section jare.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by CAPdan21(m): 5:52am On Jun 21, 2020
All these amount to the sum of bullshit, if you think religion is your problem good for you don't come try and start trying to impose your mentality here...if you like be irreligious it's not my problem, religion outlasted your forefathers it will still outlast you and your descendants so anything else is just shalaye...but like someone said this is a football section carry your ignorant FREE THINKING to the religion sport section

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by odizeey(m): 6:01am On Jun 21, 2020
macjireh:


after God created man,,d devil too created his own man which d devil himself multiplied upon d earth to gain dominion over d man God created...Remember God promised eve DAT her seed will crush d seed of d serpent (devil)...so in a bid to make DAT not to happen,,,d devil quickly created his seed in d form of Cain to kill Abel meaning DAT God's seed can never come to hunt him...fortunately Seth was born by Adam wch later traces to Noah... Noah was d only perfect(pure) man(Gen6:9) in his time....every other man on earth in his time where children born by Cain's descendants or by fallen angels(sons of God) Gen6:1-12,, they were d giants in those days...those children where d first to display talents in music, art and science.. d devil developed his children so fast den to build cities,play music and do arts(Gen 4:17-22) just so he could have dominion over d creation of God...so Noah was d only pure human in his time so God had to use him to create an Ark so as to wipe off all d men DAT d devil had created..God did D's so he could restart d creation of man...but later on d devil still created his own men like goliath...giants were not normal,, they were children of fallen angels DAT slept with daughters of men...God considers d Israelites as d purest breed of humans on earth today...God always wanted to preserve a pure human breed for Himself so He always urged d Israelites to completely destroy nations who were a breed of d devil... it has always been a fight for dominance,, d devil is so scared so he keeps creating his own men to fight against d plan of God...so Y wont God always order Israel to exterminate d devil's seed whenever they are found.....God was never in a hurry to redeem man,,,so he waited for thousands of years for Jesus to be born who was d most perfect breed of human to walk ds earth to come to die and shed His blood on earth,,dat by His blood,,man can be saved back to God...So ds has been d battle Heaven and hell have been engaged in dats Y u see all d many tinz happening on earth now including covid....Till date d devil thinks He can defeat God


if u wish to know wat no other pastor has ever taught about God b4...kindly subscribe to d link below and clear ur doubts

https://www.youtube.com/c/IsaiahWealthMinistries

or download d app below and watch d man of God 24hrs and hear d words that can clear ur doubts


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Nice.

But how did devil form Cain?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by izzou(m): 6:26am On Jun 21, 2020
I think, this is fair enough

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by patrickmuf(m): 6:27am On Jun 21, 2020
At one point, this was one of the most interesting threads around but I think the compliments has made some dudes here take things to the extreme...Some discussion are not in any way enlightening, they make the thread boring...

To each, his own thus keep your religious beliefs or disbelief to yourself, I believe almost everyone here is old enough and reasonably exposed to sought for information that will help shape their beliefs. Let's get back to discussing football and other important matters.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 6:44am On Jun 21, 2020
izzou:


As usual, when it gets to the point to school everyone, you begin to trafficate left and right.

I won't be surprised if you start talking about how religion limits abortion and smoking marijuana

Kindly answer the question, or we can just call it a night
i brought a statement,you brought another one.I showed you my statement was from his father who apparently is the god of your religion and you're saying i am trafficating,who left the matter of yahweh asking people to kill others but was comfortable bringing up the golden rule?..
Bros,abeg swerve.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 6:46am On Jun 21, 2020
odizeey:

Those guys will troll your life out. Nairaland dey learn.
Some even go as far as death threat.
Death threat is useless to someone who ain't close to you in anyway,they are far away in america and i am in 9ja..Trolling is nothing new,we have all been trolled at one point in our lives
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 6:48am On Jun 21, 2020
CAPdan21:

Hitler was no christian..He was a racist and fascist..u cannot claim to be a friend of the church when you were responsible for genocide of over 6 million jews...To your question, I'll ask these
What is the point of going to school if you're not prepared to read
Humans has always been slaves to themselves..despite religion, tribe, race...we always find a way of doing what we want...Which is where faith/belief comes in..
I didn't say Hitler was a christian,as I can't substantiate that,but what i do know is that he had a good relationship with the catholic church.Are you saying you can't be racist and profess the christian religion?.Well the white supremacists show that id possible

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