Old Glory:

Teenage Eastern European girls/women are smuggled in to this country to work in the Escort Industry. They are usually Tall,with blue eyes,and Blondie hair,and there is a market for them here. I am not sure if they are "Sponsored" or "pay as they go". But it is documented that they pay as much as $60,000 to come to the USA. When there is a will, there is always a way!

You better dont believe in that document.

People that have $60,000 in Eastern Europe is countable!

Since they allow them to join Europe, they have flocked every nooks and cranies of United Kingdom.

Akolawale

How then are they getting here? You make some outrageous statements sometimes.

Old Glory:

Akolawale

How then are they getting here? You make some outrageous statements sometimes.

Oga, don't be angry with me o, "pele ma binu"


I thought you say in your post #85 that i came to this thread to seek popularity.

"Twinkle

It is obvious that he does not know about the UK, and was just hoping to get some attention which he has now received. You should notice how quiet he has been since his last post. I am still hoping to hear how he explains this one. "


Which one of my statements is Outrageous?

I dont know 4 u guyz anyway, but i am enjoying like here in the U.S. Those who want fuffilled life in Naija can stick there. When i am not in school I make money here many more times than bankers in Naija who stay from 7am to 10pm on there jobs and drive bank cars and get bank money in order to pay 4 their rent.

@ Kola, going abroad is not madness. I think its a reflection of what is currently obtainable in both places. I beg to differ when u say that life abroad is not really better. From personal experience, it is and resoundingly so.

I will be the first though to tell anybody that is really really comfortable in Naija not to leave if he does not have all his stuff straight.

sage:

I don't know for you guys anyway, but i am enjoying like here in the U.S. Those who want fuffilled life in Naija can stick there. When i am not in school I make money here many more times than bankers in Naija who stay from 7am to 10pm on there jobs and drive bank cars and get bank money in order to pay 4 their rent.

I came to this thread to just comment and go, Sports is my area of speciality, but to my suprise he was accusing me of NOT knowing UK, and that i am seeking popularity. I wonder for him!

One of the things that drive me mad is misinformation, an Elderly man in my Church was talking to few people after the service lamenting on the poor pay of Nigerian Professors, he said they earn #10,000 as Salary, i was mad because this is pure misinformation, i disregard yoruba culture of respect and told him that its not true. I hate such thing.

Now back to you,

I am not saying "Life is not better", i said "Life is not really better".

Two simple question sir:

1) Who told you they take loan to pay rent?

2) It may be true that you were well paid but how much is your overhead per month? Please calculate the percentage.

Akolowale

You do Ibadan, and i will do Chocolate City.

The high influx of people of Eastern European into the UK, is simply due to the fact that
they can earn in one month on minimum wage, what would take them around eight months in
their country.

People don't pay[/color][color=#990000][/color][color=#990000][/color][color=#990000][/color][color=#990000][color=#990000][/color] $45,000 or $60,000 or whatever upfront, it's like when you go to places like Republic of Benin or Togo to procure an house help for a paltry sum, the only difference is that these gangmaster ship your child to work abroad in brothels and the like, and seize these girl's travel document in the process and threaten the girls and their family and charge them these exhorbitant figures, meaning that these girls have to work for ther rest of their life to pay off these debt (just like those girls shipped from Nigeria to Italy).

Call it what you like but an escort who works for such gangmasters would be lucky if they smell £30 per day out of the £150 plus an hour that their client forks out to their housemother, it is only those escort who don't have a tag around their neck and work for "reputable" escort agencies that can command such large amount.

@ Kola

1 No itz allowances.

2 Well during the summer months, at the end at least il have a cool $3,500 -$4000 ( i am talking about what i saved) in the bank for a period of 3 months as a student. Now thats more than 500,000, much more than a full time worker would get in 6 months, not to talk of a student. If the guyz in the telecom industry and banks in naija can work for over 12 hrs a day just to earn 1/3 of what i, a student can earn in my holidays, i dont think il ever complain of working my ass off since i work about the same amount of hrs that they do.

But truth be told, even though its a lot better, if u are illegal, u are in for a hot bath

Sage

You are right. If you Illegal here, it is a whole new ball game. But even Illegal immigrants are willing to leave their countries to come over here and try their luck Illegals Include many thousand of Nigerians, Ghanaians, Mexicans,Ethiopians ETC. There are about 11-20Million Illegal Aliens in the USA today(Bear Sterns). Bush has a big speech tonight, let us hear what he has to say about the Bill in congress right now. Sage you are exactly right though!

Sage $4000 = Naira 600,000.

Old Glory:

Akolowale

You do Ibadan, and i will do Chocolate City.

Ibadan

I wont say anything now.

sage:

@ Kola
But truth be told, even though its a lot better, if u are illegal, u are in for a hot bath

Thank you, people with Visitors visa BEWAREEEEEEEE!

sage:

Well during the summer months, at the end at least il have a cool $3,500 -$4000 ( i am talking about what i saved) in the bank for a period of 3 months as a student. Now thats more than 500,000, much more than a full time worker would get in 6 months, not to talk of a student. If the guys in the telecom industry and banks in naija can work for over 12 hrs a day just to earn 1/3 of what i, a student can earn in my holidays, i don't think il ever complain of working my ass off since i work about the same amount of hrs that they do.

$4000 during the summer months of about 3 months abi?

Definitely, that must be a full-time work.

I believe, in the western countries, foreign student are not allowed to work full-time during term-time.

Now, out of your $4k:
1) How much is your Gas and electricity bill;
2) How much is your bus/Train pass?
3) How much is your rent within that period?

I am not saying Abroad is not better, overhead nko?

big_bumper:


Call it what you like but an escort who works for such gangmasters would be lucky if they smell £30 per day out of the £150 plus an hour that their client forks out to their housemother, it is only those escort who don't have a tag around their neck and work for "reputable" escort agencies that can command such large amount.

American man call it $2000 a day. Imagine!

Akolowale

You are too funny. Big bumber lives in the UK right? You are truly a unique character. By the way, Sage said he would have $4000 in his account after 3 months. That i am sure, if you read it means he would have paid his bills already. I guess you must be living in a "Bubble". When you have money in your account, it means you must have paid your taxes. But i guess he will have to email his bank account statements to you.

Old Glory:

Akolowale

You are too funny. Big bumber lives in the UK right? You are truly a unique character. By the way, Sage said he would have $4000 in his account after 3 months. That i am sure, if you read it means he would have paid his bills already. I guess you must be living in a "Bubble". When you have money in your account, it means you must have paid your taxes. But i guess he will have to email his bank account statement to you.

I get BB right.

Dont speak for sage.

£30 in UK but $2000 in United States na wa o.

Kola

We are going in Circles. I will have to say that i am not going to change your mind and vice versa. So i guess this is it for me. Peace!

@loverbwoy

You misquoted me claiming I said everyone lives on minimum wage and then try to justify

your point with your friend who earns a paltry £8.50 per hour as an "alabaru"

The topic is "Is life REALLY better abroad"?

NOT "Is life better abroad"? The answer to the former is HELL NO, while the

answer to the latter is YES, EVENTUALLY. 

You are the one who needs to take more than a cursory look at the topic.

I agree i went off topic for a bit

<sub>i didnt misquote u!!   just emphasising not everyone is doing minimum wage

[sub]£8.50 n hour for a student is not paltry!!! he is not a proffessional worker he is meant to be studying[sub](23yrs)</sub> but he is working full time[/sub][/sub]

to add to that- being able to work however "paltry" the wages are -lessen the burden of the parent

Anyways let others in on this topic -im done

If life is really better in nigeria people should stay and if life is better or really better abroad,,,,,,,,

David posted this at the initial stage no one seem to care

This is "life" in Nigeria


Is NHIS Good for Our Health?
Simon Kolawole Live, 05.01.2006
http://www.thisdayonline.com/nview.php?id=46925

One of the most traumatic years of my life was 2005. My three-year-old daughter was very ill. After navigating various hospitals and clinics in Lagos, touring all manner of labs, consulting all kinds of doctors, learning all sorts of medical jargons and burning every note of naira in my account without getting to the root of the problem, we finally landed at the Lagos University Teaching Hospital (LUTH). In addition to the agony of seeing my darling daughter in pains, I discovered that LUTH was also ill. I wept inwardly. The window nets were dirty and torn. The toilets desperately needed water. The elevator was dead. I almost broke down in tears as I saw a man with a bad leg being physically carried upstairs instead of via the lift. All on my mind was the oil money being wasted on things like furniture, convoys and choice property by our politicians.
Eventually, my daughter’s ailment was correctly diagnosed after several weeks of going to and fro, mainly because one specialist was not around and one machine had broken down and all other familiar stories. She needed a surgery, we were told, and the surgery could be done at LUTH. The only problem was that you could not be sure of electricity supply. If NEPA struck, just pray that the generating set would come on. “The other day, a surgeon was performing an operation when the light went off,” a doctor told me. “In the dark, he mistakenly cut himself with the scalpel. But you can still do the operation here, if you don’t mind.” The second problem was water. “You would need to be fetching water upstairs to take care of the patient and yourself—you know, water for bathing, flushing the toilets, washing and things like that. But there’s no problem with that.” The last “no problem” was drugs. “The drugs may not be available in our pharmacy, so you may need to be going out to the chemists to purchase them. But there are many chemists in this area. That should be no problem.”After agonising for several days, we decided to do the surgery at a private hospital. It was going to cost six times more, but I was ready to sell myself to save my daughter’s life. God so kind, the operation, which was done in August last year, was very successful. My daughter bounced back to life in a matter of days, bringing joy and sunshine to my life yet again despite all the months of distress and agony that had engulfed my soul. About the same time, my rent was due. The operation had left me so penniless that my landlord had to mercifully knock N50,000 off my rent in sympathy. At the end of the whole experience, I sat down with my wife and began to ask her questions I knew she couldn’t answer: “How many poor Nigerians can afford to pay N300,000 for an operation like this? How many poor Nigerians die or lose their loved ones because of medical bills? What is the government doing about this problem? If the children of our rulers are ill, they’ll fly them in air ambulance to London or Paris for treatment. But how many Nigerians can afford that? How many poor Nigerians are battling to pay rent and bills at the same time?”
I was pleased to learn, later, that Lagos State has a kind of arrangement that offers virtually free medical services, including operation, to children. I also learnt that in Rivers State, Caesarean Section is free (nobody pre-plans for CS and a lot of women lose their children or their lives while their husbands go cap-in-hand scouting for funds for the operation). However, I still felt there should be a global scheme that will allow Nigerians to receive medical treatment without having to deposit large sums of money.
In the United States, for instance, those who have health insurance receive treatment without hassles. In the UK, the National Health Service (NHS) is free to citizens, although it is financed with tax payers’ money and it is in serious crisis at the moment as the British government battles to cut costs.

Last year, I was very delighted to learn that President Olusegun Obasanjo had finally decided to give teeth to the seemingly doomed National Health Insurance Scheme (NHIS). It is an insurance scheme that guarantees medical treatment without down payment, based on regular monthly contributions (10% by the employer and 5% by the employee). Initially, I was very sceptical because I had been hearing of NHIS since I was born and nothing had really come out of it. Several governments had toyed with the idea and turned the idea to a toy. The idea was mooted as far back as 1962 by Dr. Moses Majekodunmi, who was then the Minister of Health. The bill, which he presented to the parliament, was turned down. In 1984, Admiral Patrick Koshoni, then Minister of Health, tried to kick-start it, but the story didn’t change. Same for Dr. Emmanuel Nsan the following year. However, under the IBB government, Professor Olikoye Ransome-Kuti raised the idea again, and took it before the National Council on Health, which in 1992, finally approved that there should be an NHIS under the health ministry. It turned out to be inchoate. Nothing else happened until 1997 when General Sani Abacha formally launched the scheme and appointed an Executive Secretary. Yet, nothing happened again until 1999 when General Abdulsalami Abubakar signed a Decree to formally establish the agency. It was something like a yo-yo.
However, to President Obasanjo’s credit, he has demonstrated remarkable political will and commitment to the scheme since the re-launch last year. This will surely be one of the greatest legacies he will leave behind when he ends his two-term tenure on May 29, 2007 and bows out gracefully at the Eagle Square, Abuja. His place in history is guaranteed, more so with the considerable success that NHIS is beginning to record since the re-launch. The president’s commitment, combined with his choice of Dr. Mustapha Lecky, a product of the University of California, Berkeley and Harvard University, Cambridge, USA, as the Executive Secretary, may have provided the much-needed tonic for the mini-revolution in the making.
Dr. Lecky, who reputedly has vast experience in health services financing and health sector reforms, said as much in a recent newspaper interview. He was quoted as saying: “I think we have the highest political support for the scheme… President Obasanjo truly believes in this scheme and he is willing to get it done.” Lecky himself appears to have started on a right footing by holding a stakeholders’ meeting involving the Nigeria Labour Congress and other trade unions, healthcare providers, civil servants and others in preparation for the full-scale take-off of the scheme. Like I have often tried to argue on this page, any project or programme that is supposed to be delivered to the people must also involve the true representatives of the people in the process of planning. That is the surest way of providing for the end users’ inputs and promoting ownership of the programme at the same time. The people must have a sense of belonging for it to succeed.
According to reports, since the scheme commenced service in September last year, the response has been encouraging. Over 700,000 Nigerians have registered so far—which Lecky describes as the “fastest in the history of national social health insurance scheme across the world”. Nearly 95% of federal civil servants have registered. At the end of the current registration exercise covering the police, armed forces and parastatals, the figure is expected to hit three million. The organised private sector is also expected to be fully involved in the programme. NHIS has registered health maintenance organisations (HMO)—the bodies that do the actual work on its behalf. It is the HMOs that handle the payments to healthcare providers and monitor/ensure the quality of service. Under the scheme, there are now about 20 HMOs and 5,000 healthcare providers across the country. As the scheme becomes more known and understood by Nigerians, surely more people will get involved and benefit from it.
I believe the job being done by Dr. Lecky and his NHIS colleagues is highly commendable. In less than a year, Lecky has set up an effective administrative structure for the scheme. The computerisation of registration, ID cards and all the necessary data is spot on, in a hugely analogue country like ours. However, I think there are other grounds that Lecky has to cover. One is the potential clash between pharmacists and doctors on who has what right over what area. Pharmacists and doctors have perfected a way of perennially antagonising each other on several issues and whatever differences they have must be well managed for the health insurance scheme to achieve maximum success. If this would need the president’s intervention, so be it. Two, the quality of service rendered by the healthcare service providers must be subjected to serious scrutiny. Although this is the duty of HMOs, NHIS must enforce the standards. Hospitals that are understaffed and under-equipped should not be allowed to participate in the scheme. This will further enhance the credibility of the scheme and the quality of service delivery.
Finally, is there any provision for those who don’t work in public service and organised private sector? I am referring specifically to the informal sector operators—the bus drivers, tomato sellers and vulcanisers who number millions in Nigeria. These people constitute at least 60% of our economy. I believe, if the law permits, Dr. Lecky and his team can design a specific product for them that will be simple and flexible and allow them to enjoy as much benefits as possible. I paid over N300,000 for my daughter’s operation, and I hate to think that a bus driver will lose his child or wife to a curable ailment—simply because he cannot afford the hospital bills. Yet, this sad scenario occurs in Nigeria everyday.
No doubt, Dr. Lecky, despite the big teething challenges, has lived up to expectations. This is one legacy President Obasanjo cannot afford to underemphasise for the sake of healthy prosperity—and posterity.

@loverboy

I didnt misquote u!!   just emphasising not everyone is doing minimum wage

If that is not misquoting, I never said everyone WAS on minimum wage so there is no need for you to emphasise JACKSHIT.

_{£8.50 n hour for a student is not paltry!!! he is not a proffessional worker he is meant to be studying[sub](23yrs) but he is working full time}[/sub]

WHATEVER!!! NA you sabi. One minute he doesn't have papers, the next he's meant to be studying

to add to that- being able to work however "paltry" the wages are -lessen the burden of the parent

I never meant paltry in that term, and contrary to lessening the burden of his parent, like most cases, he probably is the breadwinner of his family, and has to send part of his wages home, increasing his own burden, which in most cases, makes life not really better abroad.

I agree i went off topic for a bit
Anyways let others in on this topic -im done

My dear, I did not even realise you went off topic, my bone of contention with you WAS that you butted in, misquoted me and then still could not get it through your head that i was not addressing you

If life is really better in nigeria people should stay and if life is better or really better abroad,,,,,,,

That should probably have been your only contribution to this topic, instead of nitpicking,,,


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big_bumper:

The topic is "Is life REALLY better abroad"?

NOT "Is life better abroad"? The answer to the former is HELL NO, while the

answer to the latter is YES, EVENTUALLY.

Thanks for enlightening them


@Loverbwouy

What are you pointing at?

big_bumper:

_{£8.50 n hour for a student is not paltry!!! he is not a proffessional worker he is meant to be studying[sub](23yrs) but he is working full time}[/sub]

WHATEVER!!! NA you sabi. One minute he doesn't have papers, the next he's meant to be studying

I noticed the lapses, i jost ignored it for peace.

well he can't keep up with the fees !! do i have to go into details!
_{if u read the previous post  i mentioned his papers aint straight!!}

@Loverbwouy

What are you pointing at?

the opposite of what your pointing at obviously!

LoverBwoy:

well he can't keep up with the fees !! do i have to go into details!
_{if u read the previous post i mentioned his papers aint straight!!}


the opposite of what your pointing at obviously!

Go into the details, we are here but dont mention the name.

This is not witch-hunting, quite a lot of people are enjoying our argument.

So you are complainning about Naija's health system.

Yes, Uk's NHS is better than naija. I agree 100%

But Nigeria's Doctor are far better.

Nigerian doctors dont need to read up book in the presence of Patient before prescribing drugs.

@Kola

The total that i make (esp from internships) about $6000. With housing already provided u can save up to $4000 or more in those 3 months. If i compare it to the days that i was in the University in Naija, il ask myself if i ever saved anything near 30,000 during the holidays not to talk of 600,000. I had to be dependent on my parents. Here after 2 summers of work, u can have ur car fully paid for and itz urs, no parents money in it and guess what------ u might not even be 22yrs yet.
If girls in NNaija Unis had 1/10 the opportunities available here, the Aristo maintality would go down.

N/B The amount recieved for Internships and Summer jobs differ so it all depends.

Il relate one of the experiences that i had the first day i came into the U.S to illustrate the grave difference


@ Kola U once told me u saw a pothole in France. I can bet u its no longer there(at least that particular one). If u drive on the roads of eastern nigeria, and come back 5 years later, the potholes u saw b/4 are guaranteed to be deathtraps.

When i first stepped into a luxurious Bus in the U.S, i sat besides a Nigerian. When the bus started moving, i asked the guy why the hell there was no policemen on the bus even though we were not searched b/4 we got in. I asked him what they would do if they encountred highway robbers.
  Guess what? The guy almost fell out of his seat laughing. He asked.do you think u are still in naija? Here people travel for five days on the road with ABSOLUTE peace of mind. That particular day i didnot believe it and my mind was not at rest mainly because i had all my money with me,  IMAGINE TRAVELLING IN LUXURIOUS BUSES DAY AFTER DAY IN NAIJA WITHOUT THE THREAT OF HIGHWAY ROBBERS KILLING AND MAIMING PEOPLE. IMAGINE TRAVELLING FROM LAGOS TO MAIDUGIRI THEN TO SOKOTO AND THEN TO PH ON CLEAR 4-6 WAY LANES THAT ARE LOVELY AND SMOOTH.  THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS I LOVE ABOUT THE WEST UNDOUBTEDLY

I once travelled to the Northeast (Boston side) here and encountred one or two potholes when i was going, guess what? on my return trip, it had been taken care off.
Potholes are not allowed to enlarge here.

Kola, we can outline the issues one by one and in almost everything, th west is way better, and resoundingly so

Nigeria can only be classified as a third world country for the following reasons.

1. Mains electricity supplies are erratic or non-existent in most parts of the country.

2. There has never been provision for any form of social security, unemployment or retirement benefits to most Nigerian citizens.

3. The streets are strewn with mountains of trash in most major Nigerian cities as municipal trash collection is effectively non-existent.

4. It is possible to break the law and sometimes even get away with murder simply by bribing the Nigerian Police.

5. The innocent often wind up in jail or get summarily shot for failure to bribe Nigerian policemen.

6. Armed robbers very commonly lay siege on residential neigborhoods FOR HOURS AT A TIME in many Nigerian cities, without police response.

7. Federal and state highways in Nigeria are pock-marked with massive craters that constitute death traps to motorists.

8. Nigerian state-run hospitals are under-funded, under-staffed, housed in run-down buildings and lacking both equipment and reliably safe pharmaceutical drugs.

9. Dead bodies are a common sight on the streets in metropolitan areas as well as in plain view along major highways.

10. Vehicle safety codes in Nigeria are non-existent, and vehicle smog emmission controls entirely unheard of in Nigeria.

11. In Lagos, Nigeria's commercial hub, there exist TODAY pedestrian over-head bridges in such disrepair as to have rotted clear through, leaving gaping holes through which unwary pedestrians do regularly fall 50 feet into traffic below.

12. The number of Nigerian metropolitan areas that are served by a centralized drinking water supply can be counted on the fingers of one hand.

I would be very interested to hear from anyone who feels that ANY SINGLE ONE of the above twelve points does not on its own classify Nigeria as a third world nation, or who feels that any one of the above twelve points contains an exaggeration or lie.

I culled this from another thread in this site just to illustrate the diffrences that can only be described as a great divide. Its just to illustrate to those aking that question, which in itself is a joke of a question

@Sage.

Nobody is disputing that Naija is the third world country.

Thank you.

I suppose life is better financially, however, you do have to pay more to live adequately. Internationalworkpermits.com assists in the migration issues, but once in the UK you will find that accomodation and employment is quite bouyant, so good luck with that.

The ISSUES OF LIFE ARE NOT ONLY MATERIAL

I obviously agree that in Nigeria things don't work. And there is so much anguish and pain everywhere you look. But one thing strikes me - THE NIGERIAN PEOPLE. They are the heroes of the day. My friends a lot of Nigerians are toiling honestly and that is why this country has not broken down. Go to the classrooms, clinics and some offices. You will see them. Diligent and Incorruptible. Never giving or taking bribes. Just and True. My parents are amongst them. I hope to be amongst that number in a few years (I am a 5th year Medical Student). I believe in GOD and He alone will judge the wicked that pull down Nigeria everyday by reaping where they did not sow. Bribing, Stealing and Looting in the name of Government.

Back to our question, if the issue of life was related to only having $6000 in 2 summer holidays, good roads, great houses and a lot of pleasures, then our answer will be YES,

But fortunately or unfortunately, Jesus said, ", a man's life does not consist in the abundance of his possesions, ". Many people abroad are still unhappy despite the fact that things work. There is so much depression, so much addiction to booze, cigarettes, hemp and other mind-altering drugs that tend to make people forget their sorrows. Do you know that in Nigeria, there are less than 100 psychiatrists. But in the US, psychiatry is the 4th largest specialty with numbers being well over 10,000.

A recent survey showed nigerians to be the "happiest people on earth". I don't believe it fully but it may have an element of truth
Don't you see that the answer to this question. I think it is the response to your environment that determines if it is better or worse.

Can't you see that the answer to this timely question is not easy?



Thanks for reading.

I agree with your discourse, Metroman but with reservations though. The survey about Nigerians being the Happiest people in the world received mixed reviews. My friend was asking me how people could be happy when they have not been paid salaries for months and went on a tirade on the challenges associated with living in Nigeria. I accepted the survey and I know that I was happier living in Nigeria than living in America. However, the dimension might change, because back home, I lived under the care of my parents. Over here, it is different, so if my parents were in the states, that probably would be a different scenario.

On the subject of psychiatrists, even as a medical student, you should be aware that people do not keep statistics back home. I am even surprised that there exists a data of psychiatrists back home. Insanity is a taboo in Nigeria that is very rarely discussed so those afflicted with such problems are kept under lock and key in their household to prevent a scandal. People do have mental problems back home, but sometimes it countered with prayers. Strong family network which is gradually disintegrating back home keeps people from being despondent. Yankee is different. It is a dog eat dog world here, but the amenities do ameliorate the situation. At least if you are jobless, you may qualify for unemployment benefits which is alien in Nigeria.

Nevertheless, I will pick Nigeria over any other place in this world. It is very unfortunate that our politicians have messed up our country, thus prompting people to seek refuge in foreign lands.

@Metroman , true talk, i like ur confidence , let time be going cuz since u at at enugu, i go meet up with u diz xmas, i presume u go 2 unec

DISNEY I FEEL YOU, NO MIND DEM, DEY ARE JUST BEING SENTIMENTAL ABOUT THIS ISSUE.YOU CANNOT COMPARE AMERICA WITH NIGERIA FOR ANYTHING LETS BE SINCERE TO OURSELVES 4 ONCE. You have said it all whereever you are just make the best out of it. Let someone not because he/she is not willing to travel go on discouraging people who want to do so. No light, no water, no good road, no food, no , the list goes on and on. Obasanjo and his friends are enjoying themselve stealing, loathing and pointing accusing fingers on themselves.My people anywhere wen let person stay make e stay as long as he dey see his daily bread dey chop. But i belief the worst thing dat can happen 2 someone na if he e no c breakfast let alone a square meal. How many ppl dey c 2 times chop daily