McKren:

good move by the Presidency

Africa needs industrialization not militarization, If America thinks their interests in Africa are threatened they should secure their presence economically by engaging in honest and fair trade with Africa not deploying a military command in another man's land.

Period!!!!!!

McKren:


But a number of African countries, including Libya and South Africa, had expressed reservations about a move that could signal an expansion of US influence on the continent and may focus primarily on protecting oil interests.

ndubest:


I personally have no beef against the Americans

but i think this is post independence era and we don't need more colonial masters

the Americans want to set up military base everywhere to monitor everyone as the "world police"

i think what we need in africa is industries as tool to fight the war against terrorism

any right thing person who is gainful empolyed will not be thinking of terrorist act

but the scourge of unemployment and our poverty level is driving such action

SO AMERICANS CAN DO A LOT FOR THE FIGHT AGAINST TERRORISM BY SETTING UP INDUSTRIES ACROSS THE CONTINENT AS A MEANS PF FIGHTIN TERRORISM

but i don't really understand this concept considering the complain that america forces in Iraq and Afghasnistan are over strectched
so where will they get men for this new base they are talking about

ALL HAIL YAR ADUA!!! AND COMPANY FOR TAKING A DECISIVE STAND ON THIS ISSUE rather than playing to the gallery

point of correction Big BI, the biggest contributor to african economy is africa-in-diaspora

toshmann:

kobojunkie give us 5 reasons why it is necessary to install an american base in west africa

ziddy:

I suspect that where the US actually want to be is Sao Tome & Principe. They're just being circuitous to get Abuja to let down its guard.

toshmann:

@kobojunkie,
haha, fight terrorism and protect oil reserves. no sir, we don't need you in nigeria. period. i'm afraid i didnt have the patience to read through all u pasted but i saw something like museveni being given accolades by that report. . . 

anyway, in summary u could not give me any reason why they should build any such thing in or near naija.

@Biggy,
i said most of the stuff u posted made sense but i disagree that the US is the greatest contributor to our economy vis foriegn aid. i'm sorry i'm not in the mood to go looking for credible evidence to support that but i promise to get it sometime and post on this thread for you, but just know, or if you don't believe just hear it (in case u get proof somewhere later it wont be new or a shock to you) that the greates contributor to african economy via foreign aid is the african-in-diaspora.

Do not let us forget that United States still remains the biggest contributor when it comes to aiding African countries.

babasin:

if they really love africans more than they love themselves:

they should encourage set-up of 'silicon valley'

They should give tax-break for US companies that move their operation to africa.

lets see them do this.

PS; A country that could not help its neighbour, Mexico, wants to help whole of Africa!

Kobojunkie:


So you do not have time to read the post outlining America's reasons but you are quick to shoot all against your stand down regardless. Well, I better move on to focusing on persons who have logical ideas to offer. I say we both move on to debating other people please. I am more into spending time on reasonable debate with people who can actually contribute reasonably please.

McKren:

There is no need for unnecessary debate, I will sleep fine tonight because at least I have a President who is smart enough to read in between the lines.

There was Rwandan Genocide, Crisis in Somalia, Siera leone, Congo, Ivory Coast etc which did not necessitate any kind of US military base in Africa.

For many years we called for fairer trade for Africa, but all that call was ignored.
All of a sudden China and India begins to develop and begin to strike more juicy deals and fairer trade with Africa, instead of the US to compete economically they prefer to deploy a military command to "protect their so-called strategic interests".

This people must be thinking we will remain fools forever.

If you don know what this is let me tell you what it is: This is simply adopting 19th century "Scramble for Africa" tactics in the face of modern day economic competitions. I must say it is shameful and contemptous to say the least that American could even come up with such a proposal


This is not about Anti-Americanism but it is about time someone told USA to start thinking of Africans like human beings.


To the Site Administrator
Thanks for editing my topic, but it is kind of awkward when my views become inconsistent with my topic because the topic I posted originally has been edited and yet presented as though it was I who wrote it. I thought it will be more professional to remove entirely threads you find unacceptable than editing them as that will destroy the very essence of blogging on a public forum which is the ability to express my views.

Kobojunkie:




And You think China and India are the ones thinking of Africans as HUMAN BEINGS?? lOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL, WAY to pick ON ONE and not the OTHERS !!!! How UN-ANTI-AMERICAN of you !!! LMAO!!!!!!

McKren:

America should come up with deals and trade agreements better than those of China and India to beat them

Not by establishing military base

Even Africa itself has in over 100 years not been able to treat it's own people as HUMAN BEINGS and you want to place that responsibility on a STRANGER?

1) IF AMERICA CAN NOT BRIBE US WITH AMERICAN GOODS AND SERVICES, AMERICA CAN NOT BUILD A MILITARY BASE IN AFRICA

2) IF AMERICA CAN NOT GIVE US MORE FREE MONEY, IN ADDITIONAL TO THE BILLIONS IT DOES EACH YEAR, IT CAN NOT BUILD A MILITARY BASE IN NIGERIA??

3) IF AMERICA CAN NOT HUG US LIKE WE THINK CHINA AND INDIA ARE ALREADY DOING, AMERICA CAN NOT BUILD

4) IF AMERICA CAN NOT TELL US TO BUILD SILICON VALLEY IN AFRICA, AMERICA CAN NOT BUILD



LMAO!!!!

Kobojunkie:


Why should America do what you want?? Do you think China and India are necessarily doing it all FOR YOU LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!! Like I said earlier, I think you are turning this into what it is not and that happens to be the problem. This is apparently not about trade cause anyday, If america decides to trade with africa, Africa itself would Jump as such an offer without much questions. This is Simply about a Military base in Africa to protect THEIR INTEREST MAINLY. China and India are in Africa for MAINLY the same thing. If you look for those to treat Africans like Humans, maybe you should take a look at hour Indians and Chinese and Americans treat their own people FIRST and then you check if that demand of yours is right. Even Africa itself has in over 100 years not been able to treat it's own people as HUMAN BEINGS and you want to place that responsibility on a STRANGER? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

McKren:

I must be arguing with someone not in my league

I have a resource which other people want. The fairest thing they can do is to come and bid, negotiate etc to legitimately have it not to bully me or bully others so that the cost of that comodity will solely reamain the same or the commodity will only be available to them