SmoothCrim: All this is pure lies. The Ewe are about as Yoruba as a dog on the street is. This guy is either a troll or has a very big inferiority complex because he is living under Akan domination in Ghana. The Ewe's don't share a language with the Yoruba... Chose names similar to the Akan and wear Akan clothes. I think he hates Akan Hegemony over the Ewe so tries to fabricate a history without knowing the true history of the Yoruba(not glorious and filled with domination by the Hausa and Fulani) This shows how Akan Imperialism can drive some men to madness and cause them to even fabricate history. The names don't match up, the languages are not intelligible or even classified the same way and there is no evidence of a massive migration, the culture also does not match up. If you want to create a fake glorious history fabricate your history to match your direct neighbors instead of this inferiority complex filled history which cannot be proven in any way and is largely lies. This is coming from a Nigerian familiar with the region.

anonymous6:

always knew ewe's originated from Nigeria, I have ghanians friends of that tribe who have also said that but I never knew from what region or tribe through they descended from

It's high time knowleageable yorubas come back to nairaland

^^I didn't create this thread to cause an e-fight.. I'm just trying to learn new things, and gain knowledge..

I love African history.

Ptolomeus: Dear friends.
I am South American, and student of history and African traditions, I would like to hear from you about these two "kings" Africans in America. I refer to the "Obá" Mosi Guineur ( "owner of the ASE and elect of Oloorùn" ) Barule Oba's kingdom, and Agelo Djisovi Sagbaju Agbovi I, King Fon in America.
My question is this.
According to your opinion:
1. These people are eligible (qualifying) to represent these people as kings?
2. They have the proper lineage?
3. Who / whom they proclaimed King / Oba?
4. You as Africans agree with these appointments?
I beg you to open your views on this interesting subject.

Warm regards to all!

Ptolomeus: Dear friends.
I am South American, and student of history and African traditions, I would like to hear from you about these two "kings" Africans in America. I refer to the "Obá" Mosi Guineur ( "owner of the ASE and elect of Oloorùn" ) Barule Oba's kingdom, and Agelo Djisovi Sagbaju Agbovi I, King Fon in America.
My question is this.
According to your opinion:
1. These people are eligible (qualifying) to represent these people as kings?
2. They have the proper lineage?
3. Who / whom they proclaimed King / Oba?
4. You as Africans agree with these appointments?
I beg you to open your views on this interesting subject.
Warm regards to all!

Obalufon: Why are you so bitter about the post? you need to watch your words .i know you are not Yoruba. there was no time in Yoruba history we were ever dominated by the Hausa's ,they were used as slaves in our land also in wars and fulanis were scholars and traders in Yoruba land for centuries before they took advantage of a greedy general who wanted to create a state for himself within the empire due to internal disintegration of the empire. Northern part of Yoruba territory was the power house of the empire that was where the Calvary regiments of the empire was located and made it hard for Oyo to retake back the north but the fulanis were checked from advancing. "We are Yoruba or anago not Yoruba okay" Ewe Anago/yoruba, Ifon Akan Have the same linage .language mutates itself. "ETYMOLOGY "

Ptolomeus: Dear friends.
I am South American, and student of history and African traditions, I would like to hear from you about these two "kings" Africans in America. I refer to the "Obá" Mosi Guineur ( "owner of the ASE and elect of Oloorùn" ) Barule Oba's kingdom, and Agelo Djisovi Sagbaju Agbovi I, King Fon in America.
My question is this.
According to your opinion:
1. These people are eligible (qualifying) to represent these people as kings?
2. They have the proper lineage?
3. Who / whom they proclaimed King / Oba?
4. You as Africans agree with these appointments?
I beg you to open your views on this interesting subject.
Warm regards to all!

Obalufon: Why are you so bitter about the post? you need to watch your words .i know you are not Yoruba. there was no time in Yoruba history we were ever dominated by the Hausa's ,they were used as slaves in our land also in wars and fulanis were scholars and traders in Yoruba land for centuries before they took advantage of a greedy general who wanted to create a state for himself within the empire due to internal disintegration of the empire. Northern part of Yoruba territory was the power house of the empire that was where the Calvary regiments of the empire was located and made it hard for Oyo to retake back the north but the fulanis were checked from advancing. "We are Yoruba or anago not Yoruba okay" Ewe Anago/yoruba, Ifon Akan Have the same linage .language mutates itself. "ETYMOLOGY "

anonymous6:

always knew ewe's originated from Nigeria, I have ghanians friends of that tribe who have also said that but I never knew from what region or tribe through they descended from

Migan:

@Ptolomeus....Also I would suggest you look at the history of how various African kingdoms were founded and how some people became kings. Some may say a certain person is not a king because he did not go through a coronation ceremony. In our research we found out that the founder of the first African village in america was not coronated as a king  in Africa until the 1980s. He proclaimed to be a king since the early 1970s. What is interesting is that when when he finally did go to Africa for coronation, though he was not coronated already, the Africans who coronated him already recognized him as king also! You know why? It was because his people in America within and without his village had already recognized him as king. The coronation ceremony in the 1980s was simply a co signer or further legitimizing his already kingship status. Ptolomeus, if you will exchange your email with me we can dialogue in depth more about this. Like I mentioned in a post I will be interviewing the king Agbovi I for my university. Also, just to make sure it is clear, Agbovi I is a king in thr Danxome system so it may be a bit difficult for those who do not practice that culture and/or ethnically don't come from that culture for them to be able to give proper and accurate commentary on that subject. I'm sure my good Yoruba brothers and sisters can speak on the Oba thing with the other person you mentioned. I can be emailed at dahome.vodun@gmail.com Thanks

Chyz*:


Ewes still have the nigerian look,apart from the funny ghanaian haircuts,they are still nigerian-like even with their dances. Their complexion separates them from the ghanaians as well.

Chyz*:


Wrong,wrong,and wrong again. What empire? Are you speaking of Oyo? Did Oyo control all of what is now Yoruba land? Ah-ah i don't think so.Watch out embelishment is a b!tch. Stop spreading lies and stop making up false origins and ethnicities such as "Ewe Anago/yoruba". Ewe's are not the Anago and their language did not mutate,ok? Walk up to any Ewe and speak yoruba and see for yourself.

Obalufon: . Rest to your imagination. The Ewes know their root. We know ourselves ,there is link between us. You can't erase that with your jealous

SmoothCrim:

More fake history LOL. There is no relation between these peoples. hahahahahahahhahahahahahahha
1) These groups are not related at all.
2) Of these groups the only one who may be claiming history with the Yoruba are the Ewe(like the starter of this thread who I believe is a troll) but, there is no evidence of it and the history being given here is largely a fabrication.

Actually, this is very dangerous history and will get you in big trouble in some parts of the world. Look up other groups history before you try to claim them. The Yoruba claim of even the country Benin is largely false. The peoples there are a unique people and not Yoruba as some here would like to think.

Lastly, Yoruba are more related to Igbo than any of the tribes in Ghana or Ivory Coast and genetics has proven this.

Now for the Fulani conquest of Oyo

http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/425784/Ogbomosho

A simple read will show this.

Those attacks still go on today!

http://www.thenationonlineng.net/2011/index.php/news-update/38100-oyo-farm-settlers-lament-attacks-by-herdsmen.html

Any questions? I only deal with real history not fake history written by semi literates.



To conclude, The Ewe are a distinct ethnic group who today have mixed with their direct neighbors of which the Yoruba are not one.

Chyz*:
Wrong, wrong, and wrong. The Ewe are not yoruba in any way. Shymexx, its good that you want to know more about your people but claiming people to be yoruba who are not is not the way to go about it. Yes, the Ewe are originally from Nigeria, it is a known fact,but, they are not yoruba and never have been. They were put under oyo rule then eventually pushed out. They fled towards ghana,which was their very last stop. You should read and learn about the group before you go claiming them. It's like Igbos claiming Ibibios to be Igbos because the Aros pushed them out of their land and possessed it.

Obalufon: . Rest to your imagination. The Ewes know their root. We know ourselves ,there is link between us. You can't erase that with jealous

Obalufon: . TALK ABOUT IGBOS I WANT TO KNOW ABOUT YOU PEOPLE.

Ptolomeus:
Dear friend and brother:
Thank you very much for your kind and enlightened response.

I made no criticism of the coronations of both kings. My only intention is to know your point of view. I have not much knowledge about the Fon culture, I have dedicated more to the study of the Yoruba (although both cultures are related).
I suppose that if the authorities Fon, endorsed the title, because then that title is valid. I can not even want to open opinion about the specific event of a coronation.
I understand that (by way of the facts) 'he proclaimed himself King in the '70s, and that the U.S. population was recognized.
I reiterate, if this is true for Fon authorities, no one can take effect.
Here in America, there are tens of thousands of people who spread the culture and African traditions. Confuses me a bit, the situation of founding a kingdom in America, if every one of those tens of thousands do so ... maybe there would be thousands of Oba in America.
That confuses me a bit.

But I repeat to you, I'm not criticizing, but by analyzing the facts.