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Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by jantavanta(m): 11:35pm On Oct 13, 2012
Colin Luther Powell is an American statesman and a retired four-star general in the United States Army. He was the 65th United States Secretary of State, serving under President George W. Bush from 2001 to 2005



According to a genealogical investigation, he is a descendant of John of Gaunt (1340-1399), Duke of Aquitaine, 1st Duke of Lancaster; third surviving son of
King Edward III of England....................
http://suite101.com/article/ancestry-of-colin-powell-u-s-general-and-secretary-of-state-a248293


King Edward III (1327-1377 AD)


................and uncle of King Richard II(1377-1399)



It is amazing that his painting has survived without being completely whitened like so many others

The full lips and broad nose are very prominent in the coins. Notice that they are Black People with flowing hair.

Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by PhysicsQED(m): 12:24am On Oct 14, 2012
This thread should be moved to the jokes section.
Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by jantavanta(m): 5:12am On Oct 17, 2012
PhysicsQED: This thread should be moved to the jokes section.

Here is a painting of King George III, Ruler of Britain who granted America Independence on 3 September 1783.
Representatives of King George III of Great Britain signed a treaty in Paris with representatives of the United States of America—commonly known as the [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_of_Paris_%281783%29]Treaty of Paris[/url] (1783)—and two treaties at Versailles with representatives of King Louis XVI of France and King Charles III of Spain—commonly known as the Treaties of Versailles (1783).

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://lionofjudah.spruz.com/gfile/75r4!-!HDILFH!-!zrzor45!-!MQNSIOEP-QPFM-HFMP-LGSP-EILOPGROKMJM!-!72y1nq/king_george_iii_of_the_united_kingdom.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb%3Dget_topic;f%3D15;t%3D005026&h=280&w=320&sz=17&tbnid=YGN6xHgy2w24mM:&tbnh=90&tbnw=103&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dking%2Bgeorge%2Biii%2Bblack%26tbm%3Disch%26tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=king+george+iii+black&usg=__P9oXQ2IGaNppCQ_FT9lWxQ688bQ=&docid=2qXx34V8GPy3-M&hl=en&sa=X&ei=cx1-UO79C9SQhQeKy4DQBw&sqi=2&ved=0CCgQ9QEwAQ&dur=6429


http://lionofjudah.spruz.com/gfile/75r4!-!HDILFH!-!zrzor45!-!MQNSIOEP-QPFM-HFMP-LGSP-EILOPGROKMJM!-!72y1nq/king_george_iii_of_the_united_kingdom.jpg
Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by Nobody: 1:43pm On Oct 17, 2012
crock of sh.it

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Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by jantavanta(m): 3:24pm On Oct 19, 2012
ziddy: crock of sh.it

You should say that to those grave robbers who came into Africa and in their desperation to have a history in Black Ancient Egypt,
forged the famous White European face bust of Nefertiti, Wife of Pharoah Akhenaten IV. (He was later to be called Moshe, Moses or Musa)
White People call her 'beautiful' because the forged bust is in their likeness.



The Ancient Egyptians took statues as their likeness and could not have left out her left pupil.

The U.S. of A. was started as a colony by a Black Man, King James I of Britain, after whom Jamestown is named.

The U.S. of A. received its negotiated independence from another Black Man, King George III , the last Black Ruler of Britain!
Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by jantavanta(m): 11:12am On Nov 14, 2012
The political division of Europe and Africa is strenghtened by Linguistic claim of Indo-European languages.

European languages evolved from African languages being spoken in Europe by africans who settled there as far back as 45,000 years ago.

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Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by jantavanta(m): 1:52pm On Nov 23, 2012
King Boris I of Bulgaria




King Stephen Uros III of Serbia



The Russian Primary Chronicle
http://realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Misc/Crests/Prince_Vladimir_3.jpg

The Russian Primary Chronicle, also called Chronicle of Nestor or Kiev Chronicle, Russian Povest vremennykh let (“Tale of Bygone Years”), medieval Kievan Rus historical work that gives a detailed account of the early history of the eastern Slavs to the second decade of the 12th century. The chronicle, compiled in Kiev about 1113, was based on materials taken from Byzantine chronicles, west and south Slavonic literary sources, official documents, and oral sagas; the earliest extant manuscript of it is dated 1377. While the authorship was traditionally ascribed to the monk Nestor, modern scholarship considers the chronicle a composite work.
Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by jantavanta(m): 2:06pm On Nov 23, 2012
Duke Albert, First Duke of the Duchy of Prussia



Location of Prussia
http://www.familyhistoryfiles.com/images/Kaddatz-Schroeder/Prussia1860s.jpg
Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by kannymoore(m): 12:55pm On Nov 26, 2012
odumchi:

grin grin grin grin

The second man's thighs are white but his face is black.

i may not accept whole heartedly the op's ideas but one thing for sure is this... What you are mistaken as the black knight's white skin could actually be riding breeches. During the medival times, i believe that coats of armor werent worn upon bare skin.

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Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by jantavanta(m): 1:07pm On Nov 26, 2012
The First Europeans are Africans. Africans are the First Europeans. The question one would ask is: "What happened to all the Black People in Europe?"
They did not simply fade away through inter-marriage with White People. The story of transatlantic slavery has been distorted
1) to portray the slavery as an application on only people of color
2) to portal Africa as the only source of slaves

There was ethnic cleansing in Europe that resulted in the shipment of indigenous Black Europeans
-first from England as indentured workers to North America
-secondly from Scotland as slaves to the Caribbean.

94% of the shipment from Africa landed in South America.
Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by jantavanta(m): 5:01pm On Dec 20, 2012
King Phillip II of Spain, son of Charles V, Holy Roman Emperor.

Charles V resigned his title of King of Spain (16 January 1556 – 13 September 1598) to his son who took the title of Phillip II. By virtue of his marriage to Queen Mary I, he was also King of England and Ireland (jure uxoris)(25 July 1554 – 17 November 1558). He later also became King of Portugal as Phillip I (25 March 1581 – 13 September 1598)


Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by jantavanta(m): 8:31am On Dec 21, 2012
Adolf Gustav Badin , Secretary of the Court of Sweden (1747-1822)

Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by jantavanta(m): 8:36am On Dec 21, 2012
View of a Square with The King's Fountain in Lisbon

White Europeans always claim that Black People in Europe were capture as slaves from Africa.



The man riding the horse on the lower right hand side is a Royal figure, possibly the King of Portugal.
Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by jantavanta(m): 8:47am On Dec 21, 2012
Abram Petrovich Gannibal 1696 – 14 May 1781, Suida in present-day St. Petersburg

Best known today as the great-grandfather of Alexander Pushkin
Here is another Black person falsely claimed to have been brought into Europe as a slave. He was said to have been brought into Russia from Ethiopia as a slave by the Ottoman Turks.

The story of his adoption by Peter the Great is as false as the story of the adoption of baby Joseph into the Ancient Egyptian Ruling House, by an anonymous Pharaoh.

Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by jantavanta(m): 9:01am On Dec 21, 2012
Black Indigenous European Women.

Their paintings have been falsely re-titled "Negress or "Moor"



Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by jantavanta(m): 9:16am On Dec 21, 2012
Maria Theresa, Walburga Amalia Christina ( 13 May 1717 – 29 November 1780) was the only female ruler of the Hapsburg dominions

Queen of Hungary and Croatia; Archduchess of Austria, Queen of Bohemia, Empress Consort of Francis I, Holy Roman Emperor

Her coin known as Maria Theresa Thaler, was used in World Trade



In Ethiopia, her coin has become a necklace



This is possibly her painting below.

Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by jantavanta(m): 11:15pm On Dec 22, 2012
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas-Alexandre_Dumas



upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/10/Alexandre_Dumas_(1762-1806).JPG/781px-Alexandre_Dumas_(1762-1806).JPG

During the life of General Thomas-Alexandre, who was the son of an an indigenous Black European and NOT a slave from Africa,
Dumas:

1802: Black officers are dismissed from the army. The Empire re-establishes slavery.
This was in line with Napoleon Bonaparte's revolution against Black Rule of France. Napoleon was First White Ruler of France; that was The Revolution.
Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by jantavanta(m): 12:43am On Jan 06, 2013
King George III, the last Black King of Britain & Ireland died in 1820. Ten years later, the Oyo Empire in present-day Nigeria collapsed in 1830. The whitening of the European aristocracy made possible the Berlin Conference of 1885 where Africa was partitioned into colonies.
Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by ezotik: 2:38am On Jan 06, 2013
[img]http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/ns/images/adps1.jpg[/img]

royal canadian mounted police (RCMP) was made up of all black officers back then coz canada was intially a colony of the benin empire until 1897 when benin fell to britian. and the whitening of the royal canadian mounted police started with this quote by a white officer... “Gosline, you stick out. You make our troop look bad and you better be White by 6 a.m.”
Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by jantavanta(m): 7:58am On Jan 22, 2013
Portrait of a Black Woman Holding a Clock

Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by Ahawi: 8:43am On Jan 24, 2013
Okay, accepting this as actual history? Means my people have been blaming one group for the crimes of another. See, white Europeans - according to false history, to your estimation - slaughtered most of my people. But if Europe's kings, soldiers, religious leaders, etc., were all black then that means that black people are to blame. My people have our own stories and our own historical artifacts that detail that point in time. But they are all wrong, apparently?

I'd also like to know your views on DNA (considering the use of the word 'albino' in this thread, as well as your assertion that Mongolians are a mere "sub-species." You seem to lack understanding of the subject matter, you certainly don't respect it - again, judging by your usage - which makes me wonder why you even use the terminology). And who, exactly, saved all of those paintings given the mass conspiracy?
Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by jantavanta(m): 10:31am On Jan 25, 2013
Ahawi: Okay, accepting this as actual history? Means my people have been blaming one group for the crimes of another. See, white Europeans - according to false history, to your estimation - slaughtered most of my people. But if Europe's kings, soldiers, religious leaders, etc., were all black then that means that black people are to blame. My people have our own stories and our own historical artifacts that detail that point in time. But they are all wrong, apparently?

I'd also like to know your views on DNA (considering the use of the word 'albino' in this thread, as well as your assertion that Mongolians are a mere "sub-species." You seem to lack understanding of the subject matter, you certainly don't respect it - again, judging by your usage - which makes me wonder why you even use the terminology). And who, exactly, saved all of those paintings given the mass conspiracy?

The blame to Black people should be on their inability to protect themselves from Invasion via the Bedroom. It took White People over 1,500 years
to get to the level of inter-marrying with the indigenous Black Aristocracy of Europe. The collapse of Black Rule in Europe resulted in the final collapse of Black Rule in Africa. Europe and Africa have had an inter-twined history for over 45,000 years because the little separation of the Mediterranean Sea made Europe to be Northern Africa. The same blame should go to the original Black Arabs who lost control of the Islamic Religious Empire to the White Turkish slave-soldiers , through the White Turkish women, thereby creating the Ottoman Turkish Empire.

There are different categories of albinism, with no prejudice to the regular albinos in Africa. Absence of colour was not a norm in ancient times.

There are more of these paintings and statues that are saved in private collections in Europe and the Americas. It is a way of idolizing what they denigrate, to incarnate.

White People store them to prevent Black People from knowing their true worth.
Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by jantavanta(m): 11:03am On Jan 25, 2013
Alexandre Dumas, born Dumas Davy de la Pailleterie on 24 July 1802 is the son of General Thomas Alexandre Dumas.

He is the writer of The Three Musketeers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandre_Dumas

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Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by jantavanta(m): 3:16pm On Feb 04, 2013
ezotik: [img]http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/ns/images/adps1.jpg[/img]

royal canadian mounted police (RCMP) was made up of all black officers back then coz canada was intially a colony of the benin empire until 1897 when benin fell to britian. and the whitening of the royal canadian mounted police started with this quote by a white officer... “Gosline, you stick out. You make our troop look bad and you better be White by 6 a.m.”


Keep on trying. I believe you are coming up. smiley
Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by jantavanta(m): 11:42am On Feb 20, 2013
The ancient world was not racist, it was culturalist. The racism Black people are faced with today was not the order of the ancient world. Old Roman Empire was not a White Empire. After the fall of the Roman Empire, The Frankish Kingdoms that became Spanish and Germanic Empires were not originally White. The image of Europe up to 500 A.D was not an image of White People. Racism originated as an economic competition tool for one set of people to corner 99.5% of resources at the expense of another set of people. It is not about liking/disliking someone for having creation endowed melanin.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-j2Y0qjEom0
Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by MacLovington(m): 3:20am On Mar 31, 2013
interesting
Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by jantavanta(m): 12:32pm On Apr 03, 2013
Contrary to portrayals by Hollywood, Rome and Greece were not White, they were mixed. The collapse of Old Roman Empire, gave room to Frankish, Saxon and Viking expansions, all being Black.

The Viking settlement in Newfoundland should be re-visited as one of the numerous pre-Columbus transatlantic voyages.
Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by jantavanta(m): 10:25am On Apr 14, 2013
Juan Garrido is the most prominent among the small group of African freeman who traveled to the Americas to take part in the Spanish conquest of the West Indies and Mexico in the late 15th and early 16th Centuries. He later became an agricultural innovator and is credited with introducing wheat harvesting to the Americas.
http://www.blackpast.org/?q=gah/garrido-juan-c-1480-c-1550



http://71.45.131.15/op/archives/5321


There they go again insisting that Juan Garrido had to arrive in Portugal from Africa to become a Conquistador in Juan Ponce de León's expediton to Mexico.

One account calls him a slave, another account calls him son of an African King.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afro-Puerto_Rican

Even though King Manuel I of Portugal in 1484 sent an Ambassador to Oba(King) Ozolua (1480–1504) of Benin, West Africa and in 1486 brought back a Benin Ambassador to Portugal, there was no need for somebody from Africa to go and become conquistador in the New World. Medieval Europe was was racially mixed, with Black People ruling Europe, therefore Juan Garrido was a Black indigenous european who did not have to be a descendant of 8th century A.D. invading Moors.

http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=15;t=008029;p=1#000001
"There are paintings of 3 Ambassadors of Kongo to the Vatican and Brazil.They are Emanuele Ne Vunda Ambassador to the Papacy, Don Antonio Manuele de Funta Ambassador of King of Kongo, Dom Miguel Castro Ambassador of Kingdom of Kongo to Brazil."
Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by jantavanta(m): 10:25am On Apr 14, 2013
Juan Garrido is the most prominent among the small group of African freeman who traveled to the Americas to take part in the Spanish conquest of the West Indies and Mexico in the late 15th and early 16th Centuries. He later became an agricultural innovator and is credited with introducing wheat harvesting to the Americas.
http://www.blackpast.org/?q=gah/garrido-juan-c-1480-c-1550



http://71.45.131.15/op/archives/5321


There they go again insisting that Juan Garrido had to arrive in Portugal from Africa to become a Conquistador in Juan Ponce de León's expediton to Mexico.

One account calls him a slave, another account calls him son of an African King.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afro-Puerto_Rican

Even though King Manuel I of Portugal in 1484 sent an Ambassador to Oba(King) Ozolua (1480–1504) of Benin, West Africa and in 1486 brought back a Benin Ambassador to Portugal, there was no need for somebody from Africa to go and become conquistador in the New World. Medieval Europe was was racially mixed, with Black People ruling Europe, therefore Juan Garrido was a Black indigenous european who did not have to be a descendant of 8th century A.D. invading Moors.

http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=15;t=008029;p=1#000001
"There are paintings of 3 Ambassadors of Kongo to the Vatican and Brazil.They are Emanuele Ne Vunda Ambassador to the Papacy, Don Antonio Manuele de Funta Ambassador of King of Kongo, Dom Miguel Castro Ambassador of Kingdom of Kongo to Brazil."

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Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by jantavanta(m): 4:41pm On Apr 16, 2013
WHEN WE RULED, by Robin Walker
"Meanwhile, the European translation centres of Moorish and Arabic texts, established in the 10th century had borne fruit. By the 12th century (1100s) and 13th century (1200s) there was the rise of major European Universities. Bologna University (Italy) was established in 1158, Montpelier (France) in 1180, Oxford (England) in 1200, Toulouse (France) in 1223, Rome (Italy) in 1245 and Cambridge (England) in 1257. Arguably, this process began the genesis of the European Renaissance."

These Moorish and Arabic texts were translations of Black Ancient Egyptian knowledge. The European Renaissance was African Knowledge transmitted by [Black] [Muslim] Moors to Black-Ruled Christian European Kingdoms.

In the 1200s the Kanems (prior to the Kanem-Bornu amalgamation) were sending Ambassadors to the Ottoman Court in Istanbul (formerly Constantinople). They did not describe Europe as a continent of White People. By the 1500s, the Kanem-Bornu Empire included Southern Libya while Tripoli in Northern Libya was under the Black Germanic Roman Emperor, Charles V https://www.nairaland.com/955076/black-african-nobility-ancient-europe/2#11921981 who was the Lord of Tripoli (through his other title as: Charles I, King of Spain). The Kanem-Bornu of that era knew that Europe was a Black-Ruled mixed continent and did not accord civilization, development, etc to "whiteness"
Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by jantavanta(m): 2:51pm On Apr 17, 2013
Caucasian writers are eager to write about the expansion of the Ancient Egyptian Empire into Asia, but do not like to talk about the expansion into Europe. They want to give the world the impression that Europe was impenetrable, by Africa. Even Gerald Massey's essays on the Ancient Egyptian Heritage of the Celts would not want to talk about the Egyptian Rule of Europe.

The Separation between Europe and Africa is just piece of Sea. if as far back as the 1500s B.C, Egypt expanded to Asia, who could stop their expansion into Europe? If there was an out-of-Africa migration of Human Beings to Asia 50,000 years ago, what prevented the same migrants from crossing to Europe?

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Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by jantavanta(m): 4:33pm On May 06, 2013
Charles V, Holy Roman Emperor

He was the one who provided the ships for the first european circumnavigation of the earth by Ferdinand Magellan's expedition of 1519–1522 although Magellan himself did not complete the entire voyage, being killed during the Battle of Mactan in the Philippines.

The full Charles' titulature (from Wikipedia) went as follows:

Charles, by the grace of God, Holy Roman Emperor, forever August, King of Germany, King of Italy, King of all Spains, of Castile, Aragon, León, Navarra, Grenada, Toledo, Valencia, Galicia, Majorca, Sevilla, Cordova, Murcia, Jaén, Algarves, Algeciras, Gibraltar, the Canary Islands, King of Two Sicilies, of Sardinia, Corsica, King of Jerusalem, King of the Western and Eastern Indies, Lord of the Islands and Main Ocean Sea, Archduke of Austria, Duke of Burgundy, Brabant, Lorraine, Styria, Carinthia, Carniola, Limburg, Luxembourg, Gelderland, Neopatria, Württemberg, Landgrave of Alsace, Prince of Swabia, Asturia and Catalonia, Count of Flanders, Habsburg, Tyrol, Gorizia, Barcelona, Artois, Burgundy Palatine, Hainaut, Holland, Seeland, Ferrette, Kyburg, Namur, Roussillon, Cerdagne, Drenthe, Zutphen, Margrave of the Holy Roman Empire, Burgau, Oristano and Gociano, Lord of Frisia, the Wendish March, Pordenone, Biscay, Molin, Salins, Tripoli and Mechelen.

Here is the Iron Crown of Lombardy used for his coronation as King of Italy in Bologna,Spain on 22 Feb 1530
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Crown_of_Lombardy



The Iron Crown has been used for coronations from the 6th to 19th century. It is presently in the Cathedral of Monza in Italy.

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