defbond1: I find this interesting? And I read some gullible people saying it was destined to be like that?
How is a pilot's distress call routed to NAMA control when it's meant to go straight to the control tower? Na gsm call? Abi na demuren number he call? Haba
What about the time lost between that communication.
I sincerely don't believe anything this report suggests. [/b]Who released the report? The same agency that allowed a faulty aircraft fly in the first place or The indulgent parastatal who is ready to say anything as long as some 'millions are flown in plane to abuja'.
I'm sorry if I sound this way but years of following lies upon lies from anything Nigeria. I take this news with a pinch of salt!
Especially when a legislator will accept bribe on subsidy probe
Nigerians be wise. [b]These guys are just playing on your intelligence!

defbond1: I find this interesting? And I read some gullible people saying it was destined to be like that?
How is a pilot's distress call routed to NAMA control when it's meant to go straight to the control tower? Na gsm call? Abi na demuren number he call? Haba
What about the time lost between that communication.
I sincerely don't believe anything this report suggests. Who released the report? The same agency that allowed a faulty aircraft fly in the first place or The indulgent parastatal who is ready to say anything as long as some 'millions are flown in plane to abuja'.
I'm sorry if I sound this way but years of following lies upon lies from anything Nigeria. I take this news with a pinch of salt!
Especially when a legislator will accept bribe on subsidy probe
Nigerians be wise. These guys are just playing on your intelligence!

toughbobo:

Dont jump to conclusion like an idiot....There were 5 high-powered fire vehicles on the tarmac while ll flights were sent to land at Ibadan airport because the tower already taught the plane would crash land at the airport and since the pilot dint start discharging the fuel on time, it was already hoped there will be explosions. LASEMA can confirm this cos they have been called in minutes before the unfortunate crash. This However explained why response delayed to Iju. They were all already heading to airport.

roqrules04: D dead will alwyz b blame 4 his or her Death... Dunno y some membrs r putting d blame on d Pilot.
I blive dey are all destined to die dat way..!

buzugee: thats how i know the pilot was not nigerian. if the pilot was nigerian his last words to air traffick control will be ' mogbeooooooooooooo egbamiiiiiiiiii ooooooooooooooo motikerannnnnnnnn yeapaaaaaaaaaaripaaaaaaa. mokuoooooooooo heleppppp me pleaseeeee ejoooooooooooo '

they are all in a better place at rest ( ecclesiastes 12 vs 7 )

muffins99:

Does anyone have evidence that the ATC gave the wrong advice .i.e there was a easier/ more assessible landing space for the plane? Would the control tower have given better responce? Please bear in mind that there are protocols for communication between pilots and airports so maybe someone can confirm that the 'reported' communication was not according to protocol or that a better one can be put in place. if we can identify a better way of doing things, hopefully these recommendations will reach the right people and will save lives in the future. May the victims' souls rest in peace!

PS: Everyone knows there's a high likelihood that the plane was not properly maintained but that is one issue; communication problem is another.

moderatorr: dual engine failure plus negative response from throttle!
Plane was a flying coffin!
Its amazing it had wings!

defbond1: I find this interesting? And I read some gullible people saying it was destined to be like that?
How is a pilot's distress call routed to NAMA control when it's meant to go straight to the control tower? Na gsm call? Abi na demuren number he call? Haba
What about the time lost between that communication.
I sincerely don't believe anything this report suggests. Who released the report? The same agency that allowed a faulty aircraft fly in the first place or The indulgent parastatal who is ready to say anything as long as some 'millions are flown in plane to abuja'.
I'm sorry if I sound this way but years of following lies upon lies from anything Nigeria. I take this news with a pinch of salt!
Especially when a legislator will accept bribe on subsidy probe
Nigerians be wise. These guys are just playing on your intelligence!

defbond1: I find this interesting? And I read some gullible people saying it was destined to be like that?
How is a pilot's distress call routed to NAMA control when it's meant to go straight to the control tower? Na gsm call? Abi na demuren number he call? Haba
What about the time lost between that communication.
I sincerely don't believe anything this report suggests. Who released the report? The same agency that allowed a faulty aircraft fly in the first place or The indulgent parastatal who is ready to say anything as long as some 'millions are flown in plane to abuja'.
I'm sorry if I sound this way but years of following lies upon lies from anything Nigeria. I take this news with a pinch of salt!
Especially when a legislator will accept bribe on subsidy probe
Nigerians be wise. These guys are just playing on your intelligence!

ebamma: what an irony!

youngies:

Co-pilot: “Lagos Tower, Dana code 0992!”

ATC: “Dana Code 0992, this is Lagos radar, go ahead!”

Co-pilot: “May Day! May Day! May Day! Dana code 0992 Five November Romeo Alpha Mike! (5N-RAM) dual engine failure!”

ATC: “Dana Code 0992, read me?”

Co-pilot: “I read you five by five! Dual engine failure! Negative response from throttle! Requesting for direct straight approach!”

ATC: “Alright, position it one mile to touch down, Runway 18R! Contact tower now on 1181!”

Co-pilot: “1181 Good day!”

muffins99:

As you said, your comment is one of ignorance. Planes are machines and anything can go wrong, including dual engine failure. All you need is a series of events which on their own will not result in major problems but when combined will result in devastating consequences. Although very rare, dual engine failure can happen if the jet runs out of fuel, the pipes are blocked or the fuel pump is faulty. However, as Jakumo said, the plane can continue to fly (or glide) albeit at slower speed and lower altitude, depending on the glide ratio e.g for every mile of altitude, it can glide x amount of miles/km. The only thing a plane needs to fly is airspeed but without engines, speed is usually maintained at lower altitude so in this case, the plane will have descended to maintain speed and also to line up with the runway. The plane's glide ratio probably fell short of the runway and it's uunfortunate that there were tall buildings in the area because otherwise, the plane could have landed on a flat piece of land, probably the worst result is that the tires will snap, the plane skids and passangers are thrown around and will be badly bruised.

Abdul Adam56: It has happened what are they confirmin?Dat is how God want it,may there soul rest in peace.

buzugee: thats how i know the pilot was not nigerian. if the pilot was nigerian his last words to air traffick control will be ' mogbeooooooooooooo egbamiiiiiiiiii ooooooooooooooo motikerannnnnnnnn yeapaaaaaaaaaaripaaaaaaa. mokuoooooooooo heleppppp me pleaseeeee ejoooooooooooo '

they are all in a better place at rest ( ecclesiastes 12 vs 7 )

Ivynwa: @Vanstanzy
I feel as angry and as unhappy as you and every other person are feeling over this.
My anger stemmed from the fact that shortage of water affected the rescue operation. Ordinary water, Nigeria could not provide well to quench a burning plane and save our brothers and sisters from an inferno![font=Lucida Sans Unicode][/font]

How won't they have shortage of water when the poor masses can't see water to drink? Water is almost luxury in Nigeria, you have to spend much to drag some home for yourself in whatever way nobody cares about.Only the rich can afford borehole and see water running from their taps. A good running tap water is hard to come by in Nigeria, I don't even have words to say it as it is in my heart.

Okay the firemen fought the fire to some extent and all stood arms akimbo watching these victims die off until they found some other lucky firetruck somewhere and continued. The rescue operation was so inept that media houses of other countries mocked our country why narrating the incident. How can't a country (that pay millions of dollars to foreign companies drilling it's oil) not afford to have fire stations dotted around properly in a big city like Lagos? Abeg make I follow thank God sef say we were able to search out 2 or 3 firetruck because the way things are with us I didn't expect us to have a good working one. We are so terribly disorganized, high time they began to use money meant to better the life of people for what it is meant for. We all need to pray seriously over this type of air mishap because it can't continue happening and shaming us all, above all wasting the lives of people. God please deliver our country from this painful and heartrending air mishap in Jesus name, Amen-o-o-o.

BaBa Mike: Every pilot knows, engine failures are part of the pilot curriculum. If the engine in an airplane stops, you don't stop flying. Think of it this way: What happens if the engine stops in your car? If you're on level ground you'll coast some distance. If you're going uphill, you'll come to a stop more quickly. But if you are going downhill, then gravity will keep you rolling. Same thing in an aircraft. If you lose your power, gravity provides the "motive force", if you will, to keep the air flowing over the wings. The wings don't know if the engine is running or not. What you're doing is trading your altitude for airspeed mush as a car on a hill is trading altitude for roadspeed.
The important thing to keep in mind is that, despite all of the ways people talk about, crashes are rarely caused by one thing, and that human error are what we should be worrying about.

texazzpete:

I worry that reasonable people would look at your drunken, brainless post and take part of it as 'facts'. How can gravity keep an aircraft moving forward at speeds sufficient to provide lift?
Pilots are trained for single and dual engine failures. With a single engine failure a pilot can continue to fly on and complete the journey without much stress. With dual engine failures, the plane is practically turned to an unpowered glider and contrary to what you say, does not have such a degree of control over the flight.

I implore you to stop airing your ignorance with such confidence!

BaBa Mike:


I look forward to a time when young Nigerians would make constructive comments without being abusive. I don’t blame you. You probably were not taught at home. You can pass a message across without abusing people!

Gravity is what allows a plane to traverse across the ground, for without gravity, plane would behave like a neutrally buoyant hot air balloon.
An aircraft in straight and level flight is acted upon by four forces: lift, gravity, thrust, and drag. The opposing forces balance each other; lift equals gravity and thrust equals drag.
Any inequality between thrust and drag, while maintaining straight and level flight, will result in acceleration or deceleration until the two forces again become balanced. Drag: The air resistance that tends to slow the forward movement of an airplane.
Gravity: The force that pulls all objects towards the earth. Lift: The upward force that is created by the movement of air above and below a wing. Air flows faster above the wing and slower below the wing,
creating a difference in pressure that tends to keep an airplane flying. Thrust: The force that moves a plane forward through the air. Thrust is created by a propeller or engine.

Texazzpete , pls go home and tell your DAD that Ignorance can be cured. Stupid is forever.

texazzpete:

[s]All that rhetoric and still no concrete answer to my question na. I ask you, how will 'gravity' have kept that plane moving forward enough to buy time for landing without any engine thrust?[/s]

I think everyone knows what lift, thrust, drag and gravity are. [s]Now explain how your inane 'pilot error' observation was made.[/s]
Bottom line is that '[s]gravity acceleration' is not sustainable, you cannot sustain forward motion for extended periods (contrary to your claims) and I see no reason why pilot error should be considered in this matter.[/s]

[s]Your post makes it seem like it should have been a piece of cake for the pilot to glide to the runway. That's inane.[/s]